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2012-10-25 05:03:09 AM  
After seeing this thread and all the bullshiat people are whipping up about either party, I'm surprised we aren't in a civil war.

To solve this, both parties must be dissolved, and all parties with over 1,000 unique members will be permitted onto the ballot. Either party may do whatever they please, except they must cite scholarly sources supporting their assertations. Any candidate who makes statements backed by religious texts of any kind will be immediately removed from the race. Religious statements of any kind are forbidden in the new government. In addition, all government staff must take a basic knowledge test consisting of locating countries on a map of the world, plus basic mathematics, literacy, reading comprehension. Employees who fail this test will be transferred to their state's equivalent of the Department of Motor Vehicles. They may only be permitted out of the DMV when they can pass the test.

The government will also be required to pass a budget every year. Each new law must also have an attached budget. Each budget must be examined by accountants to ensure it makes sense. In the event of an impasse, congress will be locked in to their respective Houses and fed only dogfood and coffee until they can work on a compromise, or until they all die of malnutrition. To encourage cooperation rather than conflict in congress, one pork barrel project (such as bridges, hospitals etc) will be awarded to each party involved in writing and passing a collaboratively constructed bill. Congressional pay will be determined by public popular vote.

Elections will be held on the same basis, and candidates will be held to the same standards as elected officials. Each statement made during a speech must be checked for accuracy by the Election Commission, and if found to be inaccurate, each candidate will be penalized by not being allowed to speak in public, appear on television (in either recorded or live form), or use social media for a week for each inaccurate remark. In the event of a stalemate, each candidate will be pitted against the other in a boxing ring.

/A man can dream.
 
2012-10-25 05:03:26 AM  

orbister: Genevieve Marie: It always amazes me that the best comparison many men can come up with for rape is property crime. It's... a very dehumanizing way to discuss the subject.

Just as dehumanising as those who think it's only the woman's body that matters.


What other body is involved?
 
2012-10-25 05:03:37 AM  

geek_mars: Bullroarer_Took: Ebbelwoi: I'm hard pressed to imagine there are that many rape pregnancies to justify writing this into the law. What seems silly is that if a poor Republican woman on benefits gets accidentally pregnant (busted rubber, whatever), and then doesn't have an abortion based on her religious beliefs, the the law will punish her for not believing in abortion. People have a right to have sex and frankly accidents can happen to anyone.

The law is written to deal with non-rape pregnancies. The rapes are exceptions to the law.

Still stupid though.

Will create many more problems than the few it hopes to solve.

This law does not hope to solve problems. It hopes to demean and dis-empower women.


Agreed. But they're hiding it in a problem-solving sheep's fleece.
 
2012-10-25 05:06:29 AM  

blindpreacher:
1) The article doesn't mention birth control or abortions once. The only reason it's brought up in this thread is because it loosely fits the narrative that Republicans are united in taking away women's rights. The bill was co sponsored by a Democrat for crying out loud.


I'm not sure why "co sponsored by a Democrat" is supposed to mean it's not a bad bill. All it really demonstrates is that there are some Democrats who are as morally bankrupt as some (these days it's looking like most) Republicans. If you check the Democrat in question's voting record, he's as anti-abortion as the Republicans, so it's no surprise he'd vote with them. Pretty much entirely explained by him being a Catholic, as they have extremely backward views on abortion, sexuality and rape (sadly I know quite a few Catholics who would agree with the "if you got pregnant from a rape, God intended you to" viewpoint).

While I'm not against the concept of combating welfare fraud, I tend to draw the line at "prove you were raped!" type legislation.
 
2012-10-25 05:09:57 AM  

Bhruic: blindpreacher:
1) The article doesn't mention birth control or abortions once. The only reason it's brought up in this thread is because it loosely fits the narrative that Republicans are united in taking away women's rights. The bill was co sponsored by a Democrat for crying out loud.

I'm not sure why "co sponsored by a Democrat" is supposed to mean it's not a bad bill. All it really demonstrates is that there are some Democrats who are as morally bankrupt as some (these days it's looking like most) Republicans. If you check the Democrat in question's voting record, he's as anti-abortion as the Republicans, so it's no surprise he'd vote with them. Pretty much entirely explained by him being a Catholic, as they have extremely backward views on abortion, sexuality and rape (sadly I know quite a few Catholics who would agree with the "if you got pregnant from a rape, God intended you to" viewpoint).

While I'm not against the concept of combating welfare fraud, I tend to draw the line at "prove you were raped!" type legislation.


It's not supposed to mean it's not a bad bill. It's supposed to mean "both sides are bad, so vote Republican."
 
2012-10-25 05:14:17 AM  

Bullroarer_Took: (They're writing the exception into it because they don't want to appear insensitive, yet want to still appear tough.)


That's what this mish-mash looks like to me too.

Look at us being all tuff on Welfare Queens and so compassionate to li'l rape-babbies!

4 Repugs and a token blue dog Dem in PA.

Go figure.
 
2012-10-25 05:15:57 AM  
Mark Gillen (R): Old, white republican dude, alma mater - Bob farking Jones University ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_M._Gillen )

Keith Gillespie, old, white, republican dude, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_J._Gillespie

RoseMarie Swanger, white republican lady, college dropout, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoseMarie_Swanger

Mike Tobash, old white republican dude, elected as part of the teabagger wave in 2010, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tobash

God damn. That's a big ol' wave of derp right there.
 
2012-10-25 05:24:07 AM  
DNRTFA
DNRTFT

It's easier to cry rape than face the fact that you're a whore.
 
2012-10-25 05:35:09 AM  

letrole: DNRTFA
DNRTFT

It's easier to cry rape than face the fact that you're a whore.


1/10
the 1 is for the outrage, otherwise that trolling would have zero troll worthy qualities.
 
2012-10-25 05:42:09 AM  

geek_mars: letrole: DNRTFA
DNRTFT

It's easier to cry rape than face the fact that you're a whore.

1/10
the 1 is for the outrage, otherwise that trolling would have zero troll worthy qualities.


Read his handle aloud..
 
2012-10-25 05:46:54 AM  

Alphax: geek_mars: letrole: DNRTFA
DNRTFT

It's easier to cry rape than face the fact that you're a whore.

1/10
the 1 is for the outrage, otherwise that trolling would have zero troll worthy qualities.

Read his handle aloud..


Good grief, it's like a really bad clue on that old gameshow Bumper Stumpers. Let me clean my glasses...

let roll... le troll... literally...

great, now I have to give him 2/10
 
2012-10-25 05:54:07 AM  

MorrisBird: What if you don't know who raped you? My daughter doesn't. She was drugged. I love the Republicans. They're throwing away their power by waging a war on rape victims. Brilliant.


Hug her for me.
 
2012-10-25 05:57:18 AM  
Oh, goddamnit. Just when you think your political party couldn't get any more freaking stupid, they go and prove you wrong.

The modern Republican party: Bought and paid for by religious extremism. Farking idiots.
 
2012-10-25 06:00:13 AM  
Keep on rockin' in the free world.
 
2012-10-25 06:01:47 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Alphax: 'Demanding that taxpayers give her free money'. That's loaded language.


Yes it is. This virulent hatred for the people in this country who are the most marginalized is reallly depressing. I'm really tired of people acting like poverty is indcative of some great moral failing and the corollary, that wealth is proof of moral superiority and responsibility.


I was brought up to believe
The universe has a plan
We are only human
It's not ours to understand

The universe has a plan
All is for the best
Some will be rewarded
And the devil will take the rest

All is for the best
Believe in what we're told
Blind men in the market
Buying what we're sold

Believe in what we're told
Until our final breath
While our loving Watchmaker
Winds us all to death

In a world of cut and thrust
I was always taught to trust
In a world where all must fail
Heaven's justice will prevail

The joy and pain that we receive
Each comes with its own cost
The price of what we're winning
Is the same as what we've lost

All is for the best
Believe in what we're told
Blind men in the market
Buying what we're sold

Believe in what we're told
Until our final breath
While our loving Watchmaker
Winds us all to death

Until our final breath
The joy and pain that we receive
Must be what we deserve
I was brought up to believe

All is for the best
Believe in what we're told
Blind men in the market
Buying what we're sold

Believe in what we're told
Until our final breath
While our loving Watchmaker
Loves us all to
Loves us all to death
 
2012-10-25 06:04:34 AM  
Did anyone actually read TFA?
 
2012-10-25 06:05:09 AM  
scoophunters.com
 
2012-10-25 06:05:55 AM  
To all the white male conservatives posting how they support the fact women should report their rape OR ELSE.

Please volunteer for a butt-raping (it doesn't need to be FORCIBLE and I have it on good authority that your body will prevent you getting pregnant).

When the fellow has finished holding you down and pounding you hard, and has wiped off and left, please make your way down to the police station.

Tell the nice man in the policeman costume all about what happened, being careful to answer his questions in detail.

You may be asked to drop your pants so people can take a look, I recommend you just stare up at the light socket while they poke around down there.

When you are finished, go home and tell your mom, dad, brother, sister, friends and - if you have one - your girlfriend, all about your experience.

Because sharing these things is FUN, and I wouldn't want you to miss out on the kind of FUN you are demanding these women experience.
 
2012-10-25 06:15:08 AM  
Why does this thread have a harlot who's asking for it dancing in this thread?


No, but seriously, F- this law...

How many (R)apists have come in to point out 1 (D)umbass also helped propose this, thereby making this "bi-partisan"? Thread tl;dr
 
2012-10-25 06:17:30 AM  

Talondel: It doesn't even say that. It says they have to submit a signed, notarized statement indicating that she reported it to the authorities.


Because the constabulary doesn't keep good enough records... I guess?

Maybe not "monsters", but I can't imagine the purpose in insisting what a subject that is often difficult to talk to other people about (particularly when you're the victim) really needs is more red tape bureaucracy.

Unless that purpose is to discourage victims from reporting it. Because what you don't hear about doesn't exist, amirite?
 
2012-10-25 06:18:00 AM  
I wish the republicans would go after the Military spending portion of the budget with the same fanatical fervor that they are going after the welfare dollars.
 
2012-10-25 06:23:25 AM  
Just so everyone understands that 'reporting rape' actually entails:

"In most cases, the police will come to you and take a statement about what occurred. It helps to write down every detail you can remember, as soon as possible, so you can communicate the details to the police.

In addition to taking a statement, police will collect physical evidence. Also, your nurse or doctor may conduct an exam to collect hair, fluids, fibers and other evidence.

The police interview may take as long as several hours, depending on the circumstances of your case. Some questions will probably feel intrusive, and the officer will probably go over the details of your attack several times. The extensive questioning isn't because the police don't believe you; it is the officer's job to get every detail down precisely, to make the strongest possible case against your rapist.

Most local crisis centers have staff trained to help you through the reporting process. They can answer your questions and, if necessary, advocate on your behalf. To reach your local crisis center, call 1.800.656.HOPE (4673)."
 
2012-10-25 06:23:59 AM  
Micro-targeted campaigning for the rapist vote; non-story.
 
2012-10-25 06:44:44 AM  
I just had my local Republican rep come to my door. He wants me to vote for him and gave me his pamphlet for the upcoming election:


www.mediashow.ro
 
2012-10-25 06:45:28 AM  
A bill in the Pennsylvania House proposing the reduction of welfare benefits for low-income women contains a provision requiring a woman who became pregnant from rape to prove that she reported her assault.

So they will create situations where women will either be brought up on charges for filling improper assault charges or men will go to prison for sexual assault that should not.

/Great idea!
 
2012-10-25 06:54:56 AM  

cegorach: To all the white male conservatives posting how they support the fact women should report their rape OR ELSE.

Please volunteer for a butt-raping (it doesn't need to be FORCIBLE and I have it on good authority that your body will prevent you getting pregnant).

When the fellow has finished holding you down and pounding you hard, and has wiped off and left, please make your way down to the police station.

Tell the nice man in the policeman costume all about what happened, being careful to answer his questions in detail.

You may be asked to drop your pants so people can take a look, I recommend you just stare up at the light socket while they poke around down there.

When you are finished, go home and tell your mom, dad, brother, sister, friends and - if you have one - your girlfriend, all about your experience.

Because sharing these things is FUN, and I wouldn't want you to miss out on the kind of FUN you are demanding these women experience.


You're not thinking like a man.

A man doesn't fail to report crimes because feelings. Men are all about results. The only reason they wouldn't tell the cops is because they have something worse in mind. Their negative emotions are fuel for action, not a barrier to it.

i345.photobucket.com

i345.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-25 06:56:43 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: So, they'll help you raise your rape baby, but your broken condom baby gets nothing?


You'd still have a case in Sweden.
 
2012-10-25 07:00:51 AM  

0Icky0: I'm waiting for the bills that make your prove your miscarriages were natural.
You know they are coming. In fact, they will HAVE to come if Roe v Wade is ever overturned.


One of our southern states tried that. A few months of women reporting miscarriages to their local police departments got THAT repealed In a hurry...
 
2012-10-25 07:02:17 AM  

doglover: cegorach: To all the white male conservatives posting how they support the fact women should report their rape OR ELSE.

Please volunteer for a butt-raping (it doesn't need to be FORCIBLE and I have it on good authority that your body will prevent you getting pregnant).

When the fellow has finished holding you down and pounding you hard, and has wiped off and left, please make your way down to the police station.

Tell the nice man in the policeman costume all about what happened, being careful to answer his questions in detail.

You may be asked to drop your pants so people can take a look, I recommend you just stare up at the light socket while they poke around down there.

When you are finished, go home and tell your mom, dad, brother, sister, friends and - if you have one - your girlfriend, all about your experience.

Because sharing these things is FUN, and I wouldn't want you to miss out on the kind of FUN you are demanding these women experience.

You're not thinking like a man.

A man doesn't fail to report crimes because feelings. Men are all about results. The only reason they wouldn't tell the cops is because they have something worse in mind. Their negative emotions are fuel for action, not a barrier to it.

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Wow...I hope to all my heathen gods that was a troll.
 
2012-10-25 07:08:29 AM  
What the fark is wrong with these people?
 
2012-10-25 07:13:31 AM  

andino: It kind of makes you wonder how many of these Republican politicians are rapists themselves. Not necessarily recently, but more likely when they were in high school or college. They may have committed their crimes years ago, but they still are, and always will be, rapists.

How else can you explain their sympathy--and even affinity--for rapists?


It makes you wonder how many times these republicans have seen someone falsely accuse another of rape, maybe not now, maybe when they were younger...

I don't see sympathy to rapists here, I see a stupid measure meant to do something about stupid people on govt assistance cranking out kids they can't afford. Don't get your panties in a wad Mable.
 
2012-10-25 07:17:01 AM  

Weaver95: And people wondered why I switched to Democrat....

keep this up and i'm going to have to actually run for office.


Same here

/except I haven't gone full Democrat yet just left the Republican party.

//I would feel wrong somehow just jumping from one party to the other without a mourning period :)
 
2012-10-25 07:17:38 AM  

keylock71: What the fark is wrong with these people?


The Christian Right is getting downright scary. The disparage Shari Law, but seem to agree with its oppression of women and in the meddling in affairs of state by "The Church".
 
2012-10-25 07:19:41 AM  

jaybeezey: I don't see sympathy to rapists here, I see a stupid measure meant to do something about stupid people on govt assistance cranking out kids they can't afford. Don't get your panties in a wad Mable


As I said earlier, this is about malice towards the poor, and towards women.
 
2012-10-25 07:22:52 AM  
So they are allowing an exception to the rule in the case of rape, but want an actual police report to be filed to prevent people from just checking a "were you raped?" box to get the exception?

Umm, imokwiththis.jpg
 
2012-10-25 07:25:36 AM  

Alphax: jaybeezey: I don't see sympathy to rapists here, I see a stupid measure meant to do something about stupid people on govt assistance cranking out kids they can't afford. Don't get your panties in a wad Mable

As I said earlier, this is about malice towards the poor, and towards women.


Hrm. Here's the thing. People who are poorer and have worse education tend to be religious. Religious people tend to vote how they are told. Religious people tend to take what they are told by religious leaders as fact. Given the current incarnation of the Republican party is wedded to the religious right, both see the financial benefit in keeping people poor and reducing education. Having children you can't afford? Quick way of becoming poorer. Putting creationism AKA intelligent design in schools? Employers are going to look for someone else with better education. It's a vicious, farked up cycle where one of the two major political parties is actively trying to make the future of your descendants WORSE purely for the sake of power and money.

I'm seriously considering tearing up my membership card. This is bullshiat. I keep hanging on to it, telling myself, "This is just a phase. They'll snap out of it soon." I don't think it's going to happen.
 
2012-10-25 07:26:26 AM  

keylock71: What the fark is wrong with these people?


They're PA republicans. Everything is what's wrong with them. I wouldn't listen to them if they told me not to eat plutonium

blueviking: Wow...I hope to all my heathen gods that was a troll.


Obviously. I don't support rape, republicans, or any other words that start with R.
.
 
2012-10-25 07:31:07 AM  
Want to guess which party inserted the provision?

I'm a bit late, but is it the same party that gave us "The Year of The Bible 2012!"?
 
2012-10-25 07:32:07 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: So they are allowing an exception to the rule in the case of rape, but want an actual police report to be filed to prevent people from just checking a "were you raped?" box to get the exception?

Umm, imokwiththis.jpg


You would make a lousy seer.

Thick as a rhinoceros omelet, too, eh?

Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see the problems with this.
 
2012-10-25 07:36:53 AM  

Bullroarer_Took: Debeo Summa Credo: So they are allowing an exception to the rule in the case of rape, but want an actual police report to be filed to prevent people from just checking a "were you raped?" box to get the exception?

Umm, imokwiththis.jpg

You would make a lousy seer.

Thick as a rhinoceros omelet, too, eh?

Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see the problems with this.


Nope. If you believe we should limit benefits so those already on assistance can't get more assistance if they have another kid (which is debatable), and you think there should be a rape exception, why shouldn't it be required that the rape was reported to prevent fraudulent claims of rape when applying for higher benefits?
 
2012-10-25 07:43:32 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Yea, at this point, this stuff just makes me feel tired.

The anti-abortion movement is and always has been deeply rooted in the desire to control women and our bodies. This is one more glaring example. This one can't even make the dubious claim that it's about "protecting life". This one is about punishing slutty sluts for having sex.

This is the party of making sure that poor women can't afford contraception and preventative health services... and the same party that then says "Oh and if you get pregnant, we're not helping you take care of your punishment baby."

Also, lots of victims choose not to report rape for good reasons. This is pretty well established as fact.


If the rape baby is god's intention and your blessing ; wouldn't not feeding the baby bring god's wrath down upon somebody?
 
2012-10-25 07:47:48 AM  

stainedglassdoll: I'll just leave this here...

Also, to debunk the myth of "welfare queens":
• Less than 2% of the budget of the Dept. of Health and Human Services (DHHS) goes to
TANF (the program that gives money to poor families). Link
•Only 24% of the entire federal budget went to DHHS last year. Link
• Doing the math, that means 0.5% of the federal budget went to TANF last year. Less
than one percent of our federal budget went to "welfare queens" last year. I hardly
think they are the ones bankrupting our economy.
• TANF assistance is also capped (lifetime) at 5 years (since 1996). You cannot be on
welfare indefinitely (unless you have a physical disability). The average amount of time
families spend on TANF is about 3 years. Also, the average number of kids in a family
receiving TANF benefits is 2.3 children, with only 10% of recipients having more than 3
children (very long report): Link 



/fark these guys in TFA


In Mt. and Texas (don't know about the rest) the non-custodial parent has to pay the tanf back.
 
2012-10-25 07:48:09 AM  
I am genuinely surprised that a Republican politician hasn't just come out and simply said "Look, ladies, you owe us guys sex. So get over it. Call it rape, call it assault, call it whatever you like, but you owe it to men. And if you get pregnant as a result, that is either your fault for being a whore because the sex was out of wedlock or it is God's will, and you won't be allowed to have any say in the matter either way."

Because when you combine everything Republican politicians have said about rape, women's health, pregnancy, abortion, and women's place in society over the last 18 months that is the sum total of what they're saying. We don't even have to go back to the 1950s to find this repugnant sh*t, we can just look at the last year and a half.
 
2012-10-25 07:50:34 AM  
I see a lot of folks here saying women have a duty to report rapes. I used to feel that way as well. However, for reasons I won't go into, I now have a very good insight into how the justice system treats women who report rapes. Police are often hostile towards them and treat them as if they assume they are lying, from the moment they report the crime. With what other crime does that happen? They also often discourage women from pressing charges in an a attempt to "juke the stats." You make the rape go away, and you have less crime. If you do, magically, get to the point that you actually have a suspect in the rape, it's extremely likely that the prosecutor will either cut a plea deal to a lesser crime or just drop the charges because it's "hard" to prove a rape case. Finally, if by some miracle you do actually end up with the scumbag on trial, you will be called to the stand and the defense attorney will rake you over the coals and treat you like the suspect. Your entire sexual history will be explored in depth and he will try to prove you are a slut or worse. Essentially, the system victimizes you again and again if you actually go to the trouble of reporting the rape.

Honestly, if I were a women and I was raped, I would think long and hard before actually reporting it.
 
2012-10-25 07:50:49 AM  

nmemkha: keylock71: What the fark is wrong with these people?

The Christian Right is getting downright scary. The disparage Shari Law, but seem to agree with its oppression of women and in the meddling in affairs of state by "The Church".


No shiat... I was listening to that asshole, Murdock, on the radio yesterday. Listen to this guy go on and on about "God's will" and "gifts from God", I was thinking to myself, it's the type of rhetoric we hear from religious fundamentalists in the Middle East all the time... Hell, I was half expecting to hear Murdock say "Allah Akbar!" when he finished babbling.

It's farking pathetic, to put it bluntly... Yeah, we're an an "Exceptional" country, all right.
 
2012-10-25 07:56:02 AM  

eiger:
Honestly, if I were a women and I was raped, I would think long and hard before actually reporting it.


Did you encourage him to rape you?

You know, sweetheart. Dress a bit provocatively? Maybe give him a wink? Have a heartbeat? I think we both know you probably said "hello," and of course that just screams "rape me like the whore I am." Now, why do you go back to your kitchen, and let us work on some real crimes, like how that mosque got built just 27 blocks away from city hall.
 
2012-10-25 08:00:11 AM  

eiger: I see a lot of folks here saying women have a duty to report rapes. I used to feel that way as well. However, for reasons I won't go into, I now have a very good insight into how the justice system treats women who report rapes. Police are often hostile towards them and treat them as if they assume they are lying, from the moment they report the crime. With what other crime does that happen? They also often discourage women from pressing charges in an a attempt to "juke the stats." You make the rape go away, and you have less crime. If you do, magically, get to the point that you actually have a suspect in the rape, it's extremely likely that the prosecutor will either cut a plea deal to a lesser crime or just drop the charges because it's "hard" to prove a rape case. Finally, if by some miracle you do actually end up with the scumbag on trial, you will be called to the stand and the defense attorney will rake you over the coals and treat you like the suspect. Your entire sexual history will be explored in depth and he will try to prove you are a slut or worse. Essentially, the system victimizes you again and again if you actually go to the trouble of reporting the rape.

Honestly, if I were a women and I was raped, I would think long and hard before actually reporting it.


I'm sure your rapist would appreciate it of you didn't report it.

However, any of his future victims would likely not.
 
2012-10-25 08:01:41 AM  

Genevieve Marie: IamAwake: ok honestly - I'm confused. So it's ok for a woman to claim - in welfare benefits - that she was raped...without having actually filed a charge with anyone? The woman isn't required to prove anything other than that she filed a report - the burden of proof of the actual crime isn't on her. Normally I'd be all "ah, another stupid anti-human (both genders, lets be real here) repub law..." but...really? Misleading rewording of headline much, subby? What exactly is /wrong/ about what they're doing here?

You're missing the big picture- why on earth does a woman NEED to discuss the circumstances surrounding her child's conception to obtain welfare benefits for that child?



If life begins at conception and must be protected by the laws of this country. Technicaly wouldn't that make an unborn child a citizen and should be provided the same benefits?
 
2012-10-25 08:02:03 AM  

Talondel: LadyHawke: Well, to be fair, it says they have to prove they reported they were raped, not prove they were raped.

It doesn't even say that. It says they have to submit a signed, notarized statement indicating that she reported it to the authorities. A law that encourages the reporting of rape to the proper authorities? The horror. Truly PA republicans are monsters.

Oh, and I like how Huff Po goes from "prove they were raped" in the headline to "prove that she reported her assault" in the article, and then three paragraphs in reveal that both the headline and the opening sentence were lies. Your blog sucks.dramboxf: Anti-abortion legislation is always, and without fail, anti-f**king legislation.

This isn't anti-abortion legislation. It's anti 'get pregnant while poor and on welfare' legislation, which contains an exception for women who were victims of rape or incest and reported it (or are willing to submit a signed notarized statement that they reported it).

MorrisBird: They're throwing away their power by waging a war on rape victims.

They may well be doing that in other places, but this isn't one of them. This is waging a war on 'welfare moms' that contains an exception for rape victims.

There's plenty not to like about this bill, but so far Huff Po and the vast majority of the people posting in this thread are too farking stupid to figure out what it actually is.


Shhhhh let the derp flow
 
2012-10-25 08:02:29 AM  
Why is the Republican party so obsessed with rape, and how the hell did they end up on the wrong side of THAT issue?
 
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