Diogenes: We should decriminalize rape. The poor men we're prosecuting are just fulfilling God's will.Do you punish people who give you gifts?
dahmers love zombie: [i.imgur.com image 850x296]
fusillade762: This is the same guy who sued to stop the auto bailouts. How is it ANYONE in Indiana would vote for this idiot?
Vodka Zombie: "Dear Jesus.My wife and I can't make a baby. Can you please send someone to rape her?" #DesperateRepublicanPrayers- Daniel Poehlman (@DPoem) October 24, 2012
that bosnian sniper: Oh Christ, I saw the Onion article and now this. I don't know which is...well, I just don't farking know any more.
wambu: I'm not taking a position pro or con. But I wonder about people who talk about life beginning at conception and how abortion of these unborn innocents is murder, but then say abortion is OK if the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest. I realize that it would be traumatic for the woman in such circumstances, but how does the status of the child change to justify abortion? If the discomfort of the mother justifies it, why is that different than if the mother just doesn't want the pregnancy? I'm just puzzled at the disconnect in logic.
jvl: For the grownups here, if there are any, here is what the gibberish coming out of his mouth means:Some people believe in predestination. Some believe in free will. And some manage to believe in both, which leads to interesting logical conclusions.Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.But please continue hyperventilating as if he had said something truly wacko like "women can naturally abort real rape."
swaniefrmreddeer: So god intended for the rape victim to conceive, then he must have wanted her to be raped in the first place. Therefor god wants women to get rape-raped.
SteelPeart: Dear Farkers:You've been trolled hard by a Christian fundie idiot.Sincerely,the rest of the human race
LouDobbsAwaaaay: That's one farked-up god you Christians worship.
machodonkeywrestler: SteelPeart: Dear Farkers:You've been trolled hard by a Christian fundie idiot.Sincerely,the rest of the human raceIt really bothers me that the word troll is so overused and misused these days.
Also seeking Murdoch.
Shrugging Atlas: Corvus: You know who is a cool person? That Jesus Christ guy. He never spoke about abortion or hating gays. In fact he talked about helping the poor and loving EVERYONE. No wonder these guys never actually seem to give a shiat about what he said.One of my favorite moments in the life of Jesus....[i.imgur.com image 600x656]
evaned: I'm actually a pretty hardcore liberal, and I'm actually willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as far as what he said.What I don't understand though is how you believe in an omnipotent god who goes "oh, hey, she's getting raped. Um... let's make her pregnant" instead of "oh, hey, she's getting raped. Let's give him a convenient massive heart attack" -- and then go and worship said god.
PanicMan: Xanlexian: This "God" fellow sure is an asshole.Pretty much.
Pope Larry II: On, a serious note. How do these people keep getting elected?
evaned: I do think that the pro-life crowd has an argument that the fetus has some right to life -- and after a few (deliberately vague) months, that's pretty strong [...] And because of this, I think that clear, reasonable choices that the mother has made like "oh, let's not use a condom" (in concert, of course, with the father) serve to waive some of the mother's right -- and that moves the scales closer to the side of the fetus. For me, it's not close enough to spill over to the other side -- but I can definitely see how it could be.
Lord Jubjub: Onion article that I thought was pure satire./my mistake
that bosnian sniper: See, that is the problem. "Pro-life" people are also vehemently anti-birth control.
jvl: Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.
BMulligan: the ones who've at least heard of Aquinas) don't think of God's plan as some kind of agenda, some sequence of predestined events, but rather something much bigger than that - perhaps so big that we can't even fully comprehend its actual nature
GhostFish: So the rape is caused by the rapist, but the pregnancy is caused by God.And when there's a spontaneous miscarriage following a rape related pregnancy?I guess God just has a weird sense of humor or something.
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