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(USA Today)   Dick Mourdock clarifies his comments: "I didn't say God intended rape, he just intended the babies born out of rape. Got that?"   (usatoday.com) divider line 388
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2012-10-24 05:52:57 PM  
Ya' know, when they raped Jesus....
 
2012-10-24 05:53:02 PM  
Conditioned to respond like the best of Pavlov's dogs.
 
2012-10-24 05:53:12 PM  

abhorrent1: god likes rape


9 out of 10 people enjoy gang-rape.
 
2012-10-24 05:53:22 PM  
HE failed the first rule of holes

1. Once you find yourself in one, stop digging.
 
jvl
2012-10-24 05:53:47 PM  
For the grownups here, if there are any, here is what the gibberish coming out of his mouth means:

Some people believe in predestination. Some believe in free will. And some manage to believe in both, which leads to interesting logical conclusions.

Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.

But please continue hyperventilating as if he had said something truly wacko like "women can naturally abort real rape."
 
2012-10-24 05:54:54 PM  
I'm thinking that by 2024, there won't be enough Americans capable of this sort of double-think to vote Republican. Now if the US can keep the Republicans from realizing this until 2025, there's a good chance that the USA might not eat itself.
 
2012-10-24 05:55:05 PM  
well, guess I'll run out and find me a hot chick to give a lord loving miracle too.
 
2012-10-24 05:55:24 PM  
This is what happens when people fervently hold onto beliefs without bothering to, you know, reason them through to their obscenely logical conclusions.

Can't imagine how that would be a bad trait for a congressperson.
 
2012-10-24 05:55:38 PM  

Weaver95: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I prefer to hang out with the heathens instead of the pagans.

Pagan community has too many drama llamas.

I haven't actually seen any issues among the pagans I know in my local area. they seem more laid back than the evangelical Christians.


You fared better than I did in my day, then.
 
2012-10-24 05:55:52 PM  

Somacandra: Weaver95: I think i'm gonna keep hanging out with the pagans. they seem less judgmental. plus - they can cook like nobody's bidness.

That's true, in my experience as well. I'm Pagan and I make a pretty nice chili for Football Sundays, if I do say so myself.


mmmm.... pagan chili....
 
2012-10-24 05:55:53 PM  
www.wearysloth.com
R.I.P Buck Murdock
/Hot like the cigarette ashtray in an old airplane
 
2012-10-24 05:55:53 PM  
Well, at least he's consistent. Psychopathic and misogynistic, but that's true of anyone who doesn't support rape/incest/life of the mother exemptions.
People who support those exemptions are hypocritical, internally illogical, misogynist, and anti-sex.
 
2012-10-24 05:55:58 PM  
What about forceful artificial insemination? I need an answer soonish.
 
2012-10-24 05:56:12 PM  
Sorry, Dick. Omnipotent + Omniscient + Has a Plan = blame. You don't get to fill out a checklist.
 
2012-10-24 05:56:19 PM  

Pope Larry II: On, a serious note. How do these people keep getting elected?


Have you been to a red state? Low education and High religion equals sheep slaughtered to feed the 1%.
 
2012-10-24 05:56:33 PM  
well i think the rape was intended to by humanity (god)

rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape
 
2012-10-24 05:56:48 PM  
Remember this, GOP

You brought this on yourself

By ousting a long time "RINO" and courting the batshiat crazy American Taliban, you have no one to blame but yourselves for all the shiat currently being fanned on your candidates.
 
2012-10-24 05:57:27 PM  
I'm not taking a position pro or con. But I wonder about people who talk about life beginning at conception and how abortion of these unborn innocents is murder, but then say abortion is OK if the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest. I realize that it would be traumatic for the woman in such circumstances, but how does the status of the child change to justify abortion? If the discomfort of the mother justifies it, why is that different than if the mother just doesn't want the pregnancy? I'm just puzzled at the disconnect in logic.
 
2012-10-24 05:57:41 PM  
I thought that we had free will? Now you say that God made someone rape someone else?
 
2012-10-24 05:57:41 PM  

jvl: Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.


You do realize that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and that people are correct to point that out, right?

Not to mention that saying God would intentionally inflict additional horror and trauma on a rape victim and then call it "good" is a wildly insulting thing to accuse any god of doing.
 
2012-10-24 05:57:54 PM  

Techhell: I'm thinking that by 2024, there won't be enough Americans capable of this sort of double-think


What makes you think people are getting any smarter?
 
2012-10-24 05:58:57 PM  
This "God" fellow sure is an asshole.
 
2012-10-24 05:59:30 PM  
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* I'd call this shiatstain a moron, but I don't want to insult the morons.
 
2012-10-24 05:59:31 PM  
SHUT UP, MOURDOCK! CRAZY FOO!
 
2012-10-24 06:00:02 PM  

Pope Larry II: On, a serious note. How do these people keep getting elected?


Because this guy's vote counts also.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-24 06:00:22 PM  
A girl who farks on a very first date is anything but fussy
But a girl who aborts a babe from rape is probably a hussy

Macaca. Macaca
The Senate's hard to get.
Macaca. Macaca
And not this year, I bet.

Macaca. Macaca
Tripped up by their own mouths
Macaca. Macaca.
Yes, even in the south.


/apologies to Meredith Wilson
 
2012-10-24 06:01:10 PM  
Then why did God give women's bodies the ability to shut the whole thing down?
 
2012-10-24 06:01:22 PM  
"I said life is precious. I believe life is precious. I believe rape is a brutal act. It is something that I abhor. That anyone could come away with any meaning other than what I just said is regrettable, and for that I apologize," Mourdock said, according to The Indianapolis Star's account of his news conference Wednesday.

/Hmmm..really? Let's revisit your original comment and see if i misunderstood.

The Republican said during a debate against Democrat Joe Donnelly on Tuesday that when a woman becomes pregnant during rape "it is something that God intended."


No, I'm still pretty sure you're still a neocon "Christian" fundy asshole.
 
2012-10-24 06:02:23 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: abhorrent1: god likes rape

9 out of 10 people enjoy gang-rape.


Holy Frankenfark that was awfully funny.
 
2012-10-24 06:02:34 PM  

I Like Bread: Then why did God give women's bodies the ability to shut the whole thing down?


the body naturally (by god) analyzes the rhythm of the dick
and if it's out of whack the baby poops out the sperm
 
2012-10-24 06:02:50 PM  
I'm actually a pretty hardcore liberal, and I'm actually willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as far as what he said.

What I don't understand though is how you believe in an omnipotent god who goes "oh, hey, she's getting raped. Um... let's make her pregnant" instead of "oh, hey, she's getting raped. Let's give him a convenient massive heart attack" -- and then go and worship said god.
 
2012-10-24 06:02:57 PM  

SteelPeart: Dear Farkers:

You've been trolled hard by a Christian fundie idiot.

Sincerely,

the rest of the human race


That would only be true if he wasn't serious. The problem is, he IS serious.
 
2012-10-24 06:02:58 PM  
This is the same guy who sued to stop the auto bailouts. How is it ANYONE in Indiana would vote for this idiot?
 
2012-10-24 06:04:22 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-24 06:04:24 PM  

wambu: I'm not taking a position pro or con. But I wonder about people who talk about life beginning at conception and how abortion of these unborn innocents is murder, but then say abortion is OK if the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest. I realize that it would be traumatic for the woman in such circumstances, but how does the status of the child change to justify abortion? If the discomfort of the mother justifies it, why is that different than if the mother just doesn't want the pregnancy? I'm just puzzled at the disconnect in logic.


It's slut shaming at it's finest.
 
2012-10-24 06:04:33 PM  

Weaver95: Pope Larry II: On, a serious note. How do these people keep getting elected?

by scaring the f*ck outta voters. that plus a lot of money from various interest groups (corporations, single issue advocacy, churches or whatnot). turns out that if you make people afraid, they'll stop thinking rationally and become easier to manipulate.


/Exactly..look at the Catholic Church...fine example of manipulation, power, and greed through fear.
 
2012-10-24 06:05:05 PM  

Pope Larry II: On, a serious note. How do these people keep getting elected?


Because America.
 
2012-10-24 06:06:11 PM  

chuckufarlie: HE failed the first rule of holes

1. Once you find yourself in one, stop digging.


No no no, dig UP stupid.
 
2012-10-24 06:06:16 PM  
Dick Moredick?

/put more men on the job!
 
2012-10-24 06:06:43 PM  

Xanlexian: This "God" fellow sure is an asshole.


Pretty much.
 
2012-10-24 06:06:59 PM  
Apparently every rape is sacred and if a rape is halted, God get's quite irate.
 
2012-10-24 06:08:55 PM  
If it's a legimate rape, the female body has ways (i.e. pepper spray, mace, taser) to try to shut the whole thing down.
 
2012-10-24 06:09:08 PM  

jvl: For the grownups here, if there are any, here is what the gibberish coming out of his mouth means:

Some people believe in predestination. Some believe in free will. And some manage to believe in both, which leads to interesting logical conclusions.

Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.



If god is truly omniscient, the moment before he created humans and/or imbued them with free will, god knew exactly what would happen as a result. Even if somehow free will is outside the sphere of god's knowledge, an omniscient entity would still be aware of every possible outcome stemming from the creation of humanity, including risks of pain, suffering, etc. Sure, you can make the argument that god thought that all the warm and fuzzies are worth the risk, but that STILL makes the most horrific thing you can think of part of the plan. The only way out of that is if you define god's plan as, "I'm gonna make these humans and see what happens," with no understanding of the risks and accepting that your notion of god is neither omniscient or omnipotent. Of course, this line of thinking, like yours supposes some form of logic - something in which the devout are often extremely lacking.

What it really boils down to here is: "does it justify my the ideals I already hold?" - god's plan. "Did it piss off enough people that I'll lose votes?" - "Not god's plan and not what I meant!"
 
2012-10-24 06:10:58 PM  
The reason these people have such trouble is that this world contains such brutality that it must not contain any sentient all powerful benevolent beings. Not even 1, for all-powerful means it doesn't take two to do anything.

And yet, they persist in believing in the one thing that can be proven not to exist. You can't, for example, prove that there isn't a planet of unicorns somewhere in the universe. But all-powerful benevolent beings can be proven to not exist, because their existence would negate the existence of certain other things.

If a woman is raped in a small room, you can be certain that no powerful yet benevolent beings were in that small room with her, for the very definition of a benevolent powerful being is that they use that power to prevent such things from happening. Furthermore, if a man rapes his own child, you can say that the child definitely does not have a good biological father, for the child can only have one biological father, and the very definition of a good father precludes the idea of rape.

A benevolent god would not permit a million innocent children to shiat themselves to death from dysentery. That's just so awful that any all-powerful being who observes it must not be benevolent, and any benevolent being who sees it must not be all-powerful.

So, this man's entire worldview is incorrect, and if it seems at times logically inconsistent or incoherent, it's because it must be incoherent to include such brutality and the idea of a benevolent all-powerful, all-knowing deity.
 
2012-10-24 06:11:45 PM  
Why is Conservative God such a dick?
 
2012-10-24 06:12:29 PM  
WWJR?
 
2012-10-24 06:12:44 PM  

jvl: Here's how the "both" works: people have free will, but God knows how it's going to work out if he lets people make their own decisions. Usually such people believe that the end result of history is destined. So the rape is a completely evil crime made when God allowed the rapist to choose whether to act good or act evilly. The net result though, simply adds to God's plan. In this way, he is saying that if someone is raped and chooses to have a baby, then the baby is (a) good and (b) meant to be and (c) the rapist is a criminal.


So then how is abortion and the baby not being born is completely out of gods hands unlike the child from the rape?
 
2012-10-24 06:13:20 PM  
We are all about defending families. Rape families.
 
2012-10-24 06:13:27 PM  
Sorry I'm late.
 
2012-10-24 06:15:36 PM  

PanicMan: Xanlexian: This "God" fellow sure is an asshole.

Pretty much.


That's why when your girlfriend comes home, sees you raping her Mom and demands, "what the fark are you doing?!", you can say, "I'm being mysterious." 

/not mine.
 
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