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2012-10-24 11:48:55 AM
I guess it costs the same to not play in Brooklyn as it does to not play in Nassau
 
2012-10-24 11:51:52 AM
YES!!!

I am so farking unbelievably happy right now. After 10+ years of Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead dicking them over, they're moving to somewhere that I can still get to. And so can most of Long Island. And most of New York City. And it's not a shiatty arena. Really, really not shiatty from what I hear (and I'll see for myself in a couple of weeks).

Now, the issues: The seating configuration is weird and the capacity will be the smallest in the NHL. But even with the smallest capacity, it's still more than the Islanders currently draw to an average game at the Coliseum. And I'm sure it'll be a hotter ticket in Brooklyn than on Long Island, which means they can charge more. That sucks, but at least it could give the team a better chance of financial viability. Maybe - just maybe - we'll even attract some free agents!

This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.
 
2012-10-24 12:18:29 PM

FreakinB: and the capacity will be the smallest in the NHL


sure to be a crushing problem for the islanders.
 
mjg
2012-10-24 12:18:55 PM
Still waiting for curling.
 
2012-10-24 12:20:55 PM
Because of the internet's fascination with hipsters, I can't help but imagine every Brooklyn Nets/Islanders home game will have thousands of skinny people with wire-rimmed glasses in attendance not even paying attention to the game itself because they're busy playing with some hand-held Apple product. 

Doesn't help the three or four people I know who currently live in Brooklyn fit that mold to begin with.
 
2012-10-24 12:24:30 PM
Feel bad for people out on the Island. Not for the county or city, but the fans.
 
2012-10-24 12:26:14 PM
It seems the Islanders could have had a whole new arena/retail/conference center/hotels built with private money, but Nassau politicians couldn't get it done. Mind boggling. Waiting to see how the politicos spin that. Oh wait, they don't give a shiat.
 
2012-10-24 12:27:04 PM

FreakinB: YES!!!

I am so farking unbelievably happy right now. After 10+ years of Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead dicking them over, they're moving to somewhere that I can still get to. And so can most of Long Island. And most of New York City. And it's not a shiatty arena. Really, really not shiatty from what I hear (and I'll see for myself in a couple of weeks).

Now, the issues: The seating configuration is weird and the capacity will be the smallest in the NHL. But even with the smallest capacity, it's still more than the Islanders currently draw to an average game at the Coliseum. And I'm sure it'll be a hotter ticket in Brooklyn than on Long Island, which means they can charge more. That sucks, but at least it could give the team a better chance of financial viability. Maybe - just maybe - we'll even attract some free agents!

This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.


Congrats on being so enthused. I checked in on the thread just to see what your reaction would be to the news.
 
2012-10-24 12:27:24 PM
People have been misinterpreting the Mayan calendar all along.

It's really about the NHL.
 
2012-10-24 12:28:49 PM
At least Brooklyn is still technically on Long Island so they don't have to change the name of a historic franchise. It sounds like a good move despite the smaller capacity.
 
2012-10-24 12:28:55 PM

Gunny Highway: Feel bad for people out on the Island. Not for the county or city, but the fans.


For a lot of us it's honestly not horrible. You're never far from an LIRR station on Long Island, and Barclays was built right across from Atlantic Terminal. I'm from pretty close to the Coliseum so I had a 15-minute drive. Now it'll be a 45-ish minute train ride. I'm fine with that. It's what I do every day going to work anyway.

Not to mention that I'd actually be able to make the beginning of a 7pm game since it'll be a quick subway ride from Manhattan.
 
2012-10-24 12:30:54 PM

FreakinB: This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.


It's the only option they had after being stonewalled by Nassau County forever.

Killer Cars: Because of the internet's fascination with hipsters, I can't help but imagine every Brooklyn Nets/Islanders home game will have thousands of skinny people with wire-rimmed glasses in attendance not even paying attention to the game itself because they're busy playing with some hand-held Apple product. 

Doesn't help the three or four people I know who currently live in Brooklyn fit that mold to begin with.


My suggestion for the new name would be the Brooklyn Douche-Scarves.
 
2012-10-24 12:31:04 PM

FreakinB: This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.


There's definitely more...cachet...to playing somewhere in NYC compared to somewhere in lawn guyland.

Plus, I've never been inside Nassau Coliseum, but I've driven by it before, and just from the outside it looks more like a bland convention center the Soviets built in the 1950s than a sports arena/"entertainment center".
 
2012-10-24 12:32:07 PM

under a mountain: It seems the Islanders could have had a whole new arena/retail/conference center/hotels built with private money, but Nassau politicians couldn't get it done. Mind boggling. Waiting to see how the politicos spin that. Oh wait, they don't give a shiat.


The best part is the privately financed part. And the politicians still didn't want it, on the bases of - and I'm not kidding - "preserving our suburban way of life". Which was outdated decades ago. So unbelievably short-sighted.

fatalvenom: Congrats on being so enthused. I checked in on the thread just to see what your reaction would be to the news


Thank you sir. We had some KC/Quebec scares for a while there. This works just fine.
 
2012-10-24 12:33:29 PM

FreakinB: Gunny Highway: Feel bad for people out on the Island. Not for the county or city, but the fans.

For a lot of us it's honestly not horrible. You're never far from an LIRR station on Long Island, and Barclays was built right across from Atlantic Terminal. I'm from pretty close to the Coliseum so I had a 15-minute drive. Now it'll be a 45-ish minute train ride. I'm fine with that. It's what I do every day going to work anyway.

Not to mention that I'd actually be able to make the beginning of a 7pm game since it'll be a quick subway ride from Manhattan.


Yeah, I understand that but the Islanders were the one thing that belonged to the Island and not the city.

It isnt a big deal but for fans who were around for the Cups it must sting a little.
 
2012-10-24 12:34:28 PM

Gunny Highway: It isnt a big deal but for fans who were around for the Cups it must sting a little.


Most of those people are either dead or living in Del Boca Vista.
 
2012-10-24 12:34:49 PM

FreakinB: YES!!!

I am so farking unbelievably happy right now. After 10+ years of Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead dicking them over, they're moving to somewhere that I can still get to. And so can most of Long Island. And most of New York City. And it's not a shiatty arena. Really, really not shiatty from what I hear (and I'll see for myself in a couple of weeks).

Now, the issues: The seating configuration is weird and the capacity will be the smallest in the NHL. But even with the smallest capacity, it's still more than the Islanders currently draw to an average game at the Coliseum. And I'm sure it'll be a hotter ticket in Brooklyn than on Long Island, which means they can charge more. That sucks, but at least it could give the team a better chance of financial viability. Maybe - just maybe - we'll even attract some free agents!

This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.


Can't be any weirder than how MSG looks on tv... First row almost at the height of the glass? That just puts me off when I see it on tv.
 
2012-10-24 12:34:56 PM

FreakinB: The best part is the privately financed part. And the politicians still didn't want it, on the bases of - and I'm not kidding - "preserving our suburban way of life". Which was outdated decades ago. So unbelievably short-sighted.


Wouldnt want to sully the four lane drunk driving strip there in Hempstead.
 
2012-10-24 12:35:12 PM

Killer Cars: Because of the internet's fascination with hipsters, I can't help but imagine every Brooklyn Nets/Islanders home game will have thousands of skinny people with wire-rimmed glasses in attendance not even paying attention to the game itself because they're busy playing with some hand-held Apple product. 

Doesn't help the three or four people I know who currently live in Brooklyn fit that mold to begin with.


Once you get past the Williamsburg/Fort Greene/etc. part of Brooklyn that stops. Of course Barclays is near those parts, but still.
 
2012-10-24 12:35:34 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: It isnt a big deal but for fans who were around for the Cups it must sting a little.

Most of those people are either dead or living in Del Boca Vista.


Hahahhha. Fair point.
 
2012-10-24 12:36:41 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses:

Can't be any weirder than how MSG looks on tv... First row almost at the height of the glass? That just puts me off when I see it on tv.


The seats bother you? How about the crappy lighting and worse ice?
 
2012-10-24 12:36:44 PM

FreakinB: Killer Cars: Because of the internet's fascination with hipsters, I can't help but imagine every Brooklyn Nets/Islanders home game will have thousands of skinny people with wire-rimmed glasses in attendance not even paying attention to the game itself because they're busy playing with some hand-held Apple product. 

Doesn't help the three or four people I know who currently live in Brooklyn fit that mold to begin with.

Once you get past the Williamsburg/Fort Greene/etc. part of Brooklyn that stops. Of course Barclays is near those parts, but still.


Brooklyn is an amazing place filled with so many different types of people. It sucks that it got stuck with such a shiatty image to the outside world.
 
2012-10-24 12:37:46 PM

FreakinB: YES!!!

I am so farking unbelievably happy right now. After 10+ years of Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead dicking them over, they're moving to somewhere that I can still get to. And so can most of Long Island. And most of New York City. And it's not a shiatty arena. Really, really not shiatty from what I hear (and I'll see for myself in a couple of weeks).

Now, the issues: The seating configuration is weird and the capacity will be the smallest in the NHL. But even with the smallest capacity, it's still more than the Islanders currently draw to an average game at the Coliseum. And I'm sure it'll be a hotter ticket in Brooklyn than on Long Island, which means they can charge more. That sucks, but at least it could give the team a better chance of financial viability. Maybe - just maybe - we'll even attract some free agents!

This was the right move, and I couldn't be more excited.


I'm happy for you, pal. I've seen you flying the flag in many a thread, so for your sake I'm glad they'll still be close.
 
2012-10-24 12:38:24 PM
As if the LIRR wasn't obnoxious enough already, make way for yet more annoying kids and drunken adults.

Good move for the franchise, though. When does Billy Joel announce the closing shows for the Mausoleum?
 
2012-10-24 12:38:56 PM
As for if it helps attendance, keep in mind, The Rock is just about as easy as a commute to Manhattan as Barclays center is, and the devils, while posting fare more respectable numbers than the islanders, still have issues getting butts in the seats for regular games at a new, slick arena, even with a winning franchise that regularly makes the playoffs.

So it will be interesting to see how this helps the Isles. I'll go to check the place out I'm sure, and for Flyers games, assuming the tickets aren't ridiculous.
 
2012-10-24 12:39:51 PM

Gunny Highway: FreakinB: Gunny Highway: Feel bad for people out on the Island. Not for the county or city, but the fans.

For a lot of us it's honestly not horrible. You're never far from an LIRR station on Long Island, and Barclays was built right across from Atlantic Terminal. I'm from pretty close to the Coliseum so I had a 15-minute drive. Now it'll be a 45-ish minute train ride. I'm fine with that. It's what I do every day going to work anyway.

Not to mention that I'd actually be able to make the beginning of a 7pm game since it'll be a quick subway ride from Manhattan.

Yeah, I understand that but the Islanders were the one thing that belonged to the Island and not the city.

It isnt a big deal but for fans who were around for the Cups it must sting a little.


Just, uh, tell yourself that Brooklyn is technically part of the island?

Glad to hear the Islanders might get a little more visibility. MOULSON.
 
2012-10-24 12:40:22 PM

Already Disturbed: As if the LIRR wasn't obnoxious enough already, make way for yet more annoying kids and drunken adults.

Good move for the franchise, though. When does Billy Joel announce the closing shows for the Mausoleum?


You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?

Have I got a place for you.....

Yanks_RSJ: Del Boca Vista

 
2012-10-24 12:43:02 PM

Killer Cars: Plus, I've never been inside Nassau Coliseum, but I've driven by it before, and just from the outside it looks more like a bland convention center the Soviets built in the 1950s than a sports arena/"entertainment center".


The inside isn't much better. The one thing I'll give it is that it's small and intimate, which means it gets LOUD when it's full. Actually really awesomely loud. But there hasn't been much reason for that to happen, and everything else about it is shiatty.

Gunny Highway: Brooklyn is an amazing place filled with so many different types of people. It sucks that it got stuck with such a shiatty image to the outside world


The two generations of my family before me were all born and raised in Brooklyn, and I still have family in Gravesend/Bensonhurst. I'm in the right demographic for hipster exposure - I went to college in the Village during the aughts, FFS - but it's still so weird to me that the hipster's are people's first association.

tom servo bit me: I'm happy for you, pal. I've seen you flying the flag in many a thread, so for your sake I'm glad they'll still be close


Thanks, appreciate it.
 
2012-10-24 12:43:54 PM

Gunny Highway: You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?


Well, he's not wrong about LIRR. Wall-to-wall assholes.
 
2012-10-24 12:44:16 PM

FreakinB: The seating configuration is weird


That's going to make for some weird looking waves.
 
2012-10-24 12:45:20 PM
In other news, because I know you all care so deeply about my opinions...

My optimism and hope for a season is rapidly slipping to frustration and anger.

RAPIDLY.

SLIPPING.
 
2012-10-24 12:46:41 PM
Good to hear. Would have been a shame for them to leave New York, but they obviously weren't staying in Uniondale. Brooklyn presents some problems, but as our beleaguered Islanders fan has said, the capacity issue isn't that big a deal considering what they've been working with for so long now.
 
2012-10-24 12:47:40 PM
Gunny Highway:

It isnt a big deal but for fans who were around for the Cups it must sting a little.

As a lifelong fan who was a kid for that cup run I think it's a great move for them, but only if they keep the Islanders name and that link to the great teams of the past. Geographically it's still Long Island so it shouldn't be an issue.

Feel bad for Uniondale though, it's going to suck for them.

This should inject some life into the franchise, finally.

Now if only we didn't have an owner who likes to give out 80-year contracts to shiatty goalies.
 
2012-10-24 12:49:56 PM
Their owners last name is Wang...lol
 
2012-10-24 12:51:23 PM

WalkingCarpet: Now if only we didn't have an owner who likes to give out 80-year contracts to shiatty goalies.


What's even funnier (as someone who isn't an Islander fan) is that I thought Al Montoya was a pretty damn good goalie too, but he had a relatively bad last season and now is on the Jets. So, sorry about the 25 years remaining on DiPieinjured.
 
2012-10-24 12:52:36 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?

Well, he's not wrong about LIRR. Wall-to-wall assholes.


That. I'm on the Metro North and subway every weekday. Neither compares to the misery of the 7 years I spent commuting on the LIRR.
 
2012-10-24 12:54:35 PM

Killer Cars: WalkingCarpet: Now if only we didn't have an owner who likes to give out 80-year contracts to shiatty goalies.

What's even funnier (as someone who isn't an Islander fan) is that I thought Al Montoya was a pretty damn good goalie too, but he had a relatively bad last season and now is on the Jets. So, sorry about the 25 years remaining on DiPieinjured.


They kept Nabokov, Kevin Poulin's been knocking on the door for a while now, and they have a couple of other guys in the minors. There was a bit of a crowd, even taking DP's inevitable sneezing injury into account.
 
2012-10-24 12:55:57 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?

Well, he's not wrong about LIRR. Wall-to-wall assholes.


I used to date a girl who was from long island, and who still had friends out there. So every few months we would have to make a trip to hempstead or whatnot for something.

What always cracked me up about the place was that the stereotypes were actually a little too light on the place. The people out there are even worse than they are portrayed.
 
2012-10-24 12:56:09 PM

FreakinB: Killer Cars: WalkingCarpet: Now if only we didn't have an owner who likes to give out 80-year contracts to shiatty goalies.

What's even funnier (as someone who isn't an Islander fan) is that I thought Al Montoya was a pretty damn good goalie too, but he had a relatively bad last season and now is on the Jets. So, sorry about the 25 years remaining on DiPieinjured.

They kept Nabokov, Kevin Poulin's been knocking on the door for a while now, and they have a couple of other guys in the minors. There was a bit of a crowd, even taking DP's inevitable sneezing injury into account.


Healthy Ricky!
 
2012-10-24 12:58:24 PM
Wang and Snow (best owner/GM name combo ever!) must be praying for a buy-out period in this CBA negotiation where contracts immediately come off the cap.
 
2012-10-24 01:00:13 PM

Dafatone:
Healthy Ricky!


Ouch.

"WITH...
3245
DAYS REMAINING ON THE CONTRACT!"
 
2012-10-24 01:00:25 PM

LineNoise: Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?

Well, he's not wrong about LIRR. Wall-to-wall assholes.

I used to date a girl who was from long island, and who still had friends out there. So every few months we would have to make a trip to hempstead or whatnot for something.

What always cracked me up about the place was that the stereotypes were actually a little too light on the place. The people out there are even worse than they are portrayed.


I think of Long Island as Flat Jersey.

That's a little mean. I'm not sure to whom.
 
2012-10-24 01:01:18 PM

LineNoise: Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: You live in the New York metro area but the crowds and noise bother you?

Well, he's not wrong about LIRR. Wall-to-wall assholes.

I used to date a girl who was from long island, and who still had friends out there. So every few months we would have to make a trip to hempstead or whatnot for something.

What always cracked me up about the place was that the stereotypes were actually a little too light on the place. The people out there are even worse than they are portrayed.


It does suck people in, but it is possible to (mostly) avoid the worst of it. Trust me. Speaking from experience.
 
2012-10-24 01:16:53 PM

Dafatone: I think of Long Island as Flat Jersey.

That's a little mean. I'm not sure to whom.


Really most of the Jersey stereotypes are more Long\Staten island than jersey. Sure we have guidos in jersey, but for the most part they are limited to some enclaves in southern jersey and around Lodi in north jersey.

Out in Long Island, it really is a way of life.
 
2012-10-24 01:20:14 PM
Do women in Long Island actually wear track suits with heels and jewelry?
 
2012-10-24 01:23:09 PM
in the last two days, we've seen Rush and ice hockey come to the Barclays Center. Are we sure this is the house that Jay-Z built?
 
2012-10-24 01:23:19 PM
So lets get this straight, Atlanta wants to move .. NOOOO PROBLEM.

Islanders a historic franchise wants to move... NOOOOO PROBLEM.

Phoenix wants to move ... NOOOOO FARKING WAY.

Bettman really is a gigantic moron.
 
2012-10-24 01:23:21 PM
It's the best available move for the Islanders, but why the hell did they change the design of Barclays to make hockey an awkward fit? Lack of forward planning there.

14,500 for hockey is a bandbox, but those 100 suites will make up for it. Given the Islanders will qualify for revenue sharing in the next CBA, this is all good financial news for the Isles.
 
2012-10-24 01:25:18 PM

poisonedpawn78: So lets get this straight, Atlanta wants to move .. NOOOO PROBLEM.

Islanders a historic franchise wants to move... NOOOOO PROBLEM.

Phoenix wants to move ... NOOOOO FARKING WAY.

Bettman really is a gigantic moron.


You wanting Phoenix to move is not the same thing as Phoenix itself wanting to move. There were, of course, some pretty significant extenuating circumstances involved. Not the least of which would have been the multitude of lawsuits that would have flown if the NHL was stupid enough to let Balsillie have his way.

And lets face it. This relocation is a hell of a lot closer to the Leafs going from MLG to the Air Canada Centre than it is the Thrashers going to Winnipeg.
 
2012-10-24 01:25:28 PM
And they'll still be called the Islanders. This keeps alive my hope for an Islanders vs Sharks Winter Classic game at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu
 
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