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(Loudwire)   CBS shows how hip it is to the times by proposing a sitcom based on Nirvana's 'Smells Like Teen Spirit.'   (loudwire.com) divider line 134
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2012-10-24 12:23:01 AM
This idea makes me want to blow my brains out.
 
2012-10-24 12:26:21 AM
If they want a comedy, they should base it on "Smells like Nirvana". Link
 
2012-10-24 12:31:50 AM
I should submit a headshot to the producers.
 
2012-10-24 12:33:44 AM
Starring Courtney Love as the mom with a heart of gold?
 
2012-10-24 12:34:28 AM
No. Just no.
 
2012-10-24 12:34:34 AM
Which in turn was based on a deodorant targeted at teens.

Cue the Xzbit + Irony + Alanis Morisette please. In that same order.
 
2012-10-24 12:41:53 AM
Smells like shiat, just like your scratchin' finger.
 
2012-10-24 12:46:44 AM
Oh, and from the writers of Big Bang Th-

*laugh track*

-eory.
 
2012-10-24 12:52:11 AM
WAT?
 
2012-10-24 12:57:26 AM
And if that's successful, they're doing a drama based on "Rape Me".

Oh, wait, NBC has that. They call it "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit".
 
mhd
2012-10-24 01:01:54 AM
Don't they have to wait for another station to come out with a "More Than A Feeling" sitcom first?
 
2012-10-24 01:04:14 AM
The Food Network will be doing a new show based on the song Hollaback Girl.
 
2012-10-24 01:08:07 AM
www.threadbombing.com
 
2012-10-24 01:08:58 AM
Better than a new crime drama based on "Jeremy."
 
2012-10-24 01:09:10 AM
They're developing a sitcom with the working title "Smells Like Teen Spirit" which has nothing at all to do with Nirvana or the song... and the title will probably be changed.

OUTRAGE!
 
2012-10-24 01:11:19 AM
Well, fair is fair. Kurt Cobain borrowed big bang theory.
 
2012-10-24 01:12:48 AM

FirstNationalBastard: The Food Network will be doing a new show based on the song Hollaback Girl.


Now that's just bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S
 
2012-10-24 01:14:54 AM
If Kurt had was alive and had a head, he would have face palmed this.
 
2012-10-24 01:15:03 AM
"The multicamera comedy revolves around an 18-year-old budding entrepreneur," describes the Hollywood Reporter, "who forgoes Harvard and instead opts to launch a multibillion-dollar Internet company from his garage with the assistance of his sister, best friend and his 1990s indie-rock parents."

Yes, that's exactly what I think when I hear the lyrics "A mulatto, an albino, a mosquito, my libido, 'EY, 'EY, ayyyaya ayyyayya ayyyayayya ayyayayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa."
 
2012-10-24 01:17:53 AM
Since it'll be done by CBS, the series may last for only a couple of shows due to poor ratings (according to them).
 
2012-10-24 01:21:49 AM
Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.
 
2012-10-24 01:28:00 AM
And if Kurt Cobain was still alive, this would be enough to make him blow his brains out.
 
2012-10-24 01:28:41 AM

Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.


That'll be the one about the janitor, right?
 
2012-10-24 01:33:43 AM
So... basically the same thing as a comedy set in the 70's that debuted in the 90's?
 
2012-10-24 01:37:52 AM
So CBS is Pawnee, Indiana in network form, eh?

"People here are just finding out about Nirvana. I don't want to tell them what's gonna happen to Kurt Cobain in 1994".
 
2012-10-24 01:38:09 AM

simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?


muleabides.files.wordpress.com

Or an old-school D&D villain...
 
2012-10-24 01:46:34 AM
How about a drama based on this song? Link. On second thought, probably no. How about a sitcom based on this song? Link, You Friends set in an asylum?
 
2012-10-24 01:57:40 AM
you know who needs a cooking show based on his songs?

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net


oh, take me down to a pair of denny's the pancakes are delish and oh so filling
won't you please bake some rolls?
 
2012-10-24 01:58:59 AM
so... a my so called life reboot?; Or a grittier Daria?
 
2012-10-24 02:02:02 AM

RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...


I remember that picture, and who both of them are..
 
2012-10-24 02:03:00 AM
Dumb.

/I'm a negative creep
 
2012-10-24 02:14:13 AM

ClintonKun: "The multicamera comedy revolves around an 18-year-old budding entrepreneur," describes the Hollywood Reporter, "who forgoes Harvard and instead opts to launch a multibillion-dollar Internet company from his garage with the assistance of his sister, best friend and his 1990s indie-rock parents."

Yes, that's exactly what I think when I hear the lyrics "A mulatto, an albino, a mosquito, my libido, 'EY, 'EY, ayyyaya ayyyayya ayyyayayya ayyayayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa."


Oh so it's based on Bill Gates + Marc Zuckerberg.
 
2012-10-24 02:30:14 AM
Hmmm, if you tried to make a major network about current hipster trends would that cause an quickened pace of new hipsterism? Eventually you'd hit the hipster singularity every trust-fund hipster would implode in a blackhole.

Not the worst that could happen, right?
 
2012-10-24 02:30:30 AM
Family ties
 
2012-10-24 02:32:55 AM

Trafficguy2000: Family ties


A bondage show on network TV? Genius!
 
2012-10-24 02:46:58 AM
The genesis article itself is nowhere to be found. (five minutes in.) Link

I hate BS like this. When I moved to Foster City, I went to the public library in San Francisco, had free access to the microfiche, and printed it for like pennies a page.

It was a front page article of the Sunday edition. Not exactly obscure. Sheesh.
 
2012-10-24 02:47:42 AM

Alphax: RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...

I remember that picture, and who both of them are..


I remember the picture. Names escape me. But dang if she didn't fill many an adolescent dream.
 
2012-10-24 03:41:08 AM

Mentalpatient87: Oh, and from the writers of Big Bang Th-

*laugh track*

-eory.


I'm glad they include a laugh track on that show. I wouldn't know when I was supposed to laugh without it.
 
2012-10-24 03:57:32 AM
Smells like desperation.
 
2012-10-24 04:15:47 AM
what about a tee vee show about someone who spends their life, and each episode, watching inane, ignorant foolishness on a box, on a screen, or on a cellular telephone, complete with the associated vapid interaction associated with such media, in between having the life sucked out of them for eight hours a day (10 with the commute) and perhaps the occasional desperate fapping or unsatisfactory, and therefore humorous, social entanglement? As the season progresses, the antihero or anti-heroine grows ever more pale and zombiefied, a mere dry husk of a human being who only speaks in the gray monotone like the smiths but not as whimpy and then finally snap and going on a murder rampage of death. the next season starts with the main character in the shower like nothing happened but you could add your own supporting lovable cast of miscreants every year knowing that they would all die in the aforementioned murder rampage of death in amusing and satisfying ways.

it would need a laugh track but I bet we could sell lots of soap
 
2012-10-24 04:24:36 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: Alphax: RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...

I remember that picture, and who both of them are..

I remember the picture. Names escape me. But dang if she didn't fill many an adolescent dream.


That would be the evil wizard, Bargle, and the cleric Aleena. Sadly, this is where she gets taken out by his magic missile in the introductory adventure from the old D&D basic (red box) set...

/Read this book first!
 
2012-10-24 04:42:42 AM
whatever
 
2012-10-24 05:01:19 AM

RatMaster999: LowbrowDeluxe: Alphax: RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...

I remember that picture, and who both of them are..

I remember the picture. Names escape me. But dang if she didn't fill many an adolescent dream.

That would be the evil wizard, Bargle, and the cleric Aleena. Sadly, this is where she gets taken out by his magic missile in the introductory adventure from the old D&D basic (red box) set...

/Read this book first!


She's also in the Gazeteer #1 on the Grand Duchy of Karameikos. Though it suggests that if you already established that she's dead by doing the above scenario, that you rename her. She's the niece of Baron Sherlane, ruler of the border town of Threshold. Both are clerics, him level 14 and her level 12, I think..

(I think we've fully abandoned the original topic)
 
2012-10-24 05:42:02 AM
Load up on guns and bring your friends!
 
2012-10-24 05:44:09 AM
I'll just leave this here...
i288.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-24 05:50:33 AM

Alphax: RatMaster999: LowbrowDeluxe: Alphax: RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...

I remember that picture, and who both of them are..

I remember the picture. Names escape me. But dang if she didn't fill many an adolescent dream.

That would be the evil wizard, Bargle, and the cleric Aleena. Sadly, this is where she gets taken out by his magic missile in the introductory adventure from the old D&D basic (red box) set...

/Read this book first!

She's also in the Gazeteer #1 on the Grand Duchy of Karameikos. Though it suggests that if you already established that she's dead by doing the above scenario, that you rename her. She's the niece of Baron Sherlane, ruler of the border town of Threshold. Both are clerics, him level 14 and her level 12, I think..

(I think we've fully abandoned the original topic)


I have GAZ1...I should dig it out and look. I never really noticed it was her. My game had been set elsewhere in the world.
 
2012-10-24 06:35:26 AM
The script is said to be all over the place like you know what
 
2012-10-24 06:38:46 AM
Subby sounds like they missed the memo that they're getting old.

/see also: Happy Days (50s), Mad Men (60s), that 70s Show (70s)
//.. and that WW2 show with the huge battleship (40s)
///and all turn of the century westerns
 
2012-10-24 06:40:39 AM

RatMaster999: simplicimus: Olympic Trolling Judge: Personally, I'm waiting for the spinoff, Bargle Nawdle Zouss.

That'll be the one about the janitor, right?

[muleabides.files.wordpress.com image 340x500]

Or an old-school D&D villain...


good lord, is that picture a flashback...
 
2012-10-24 06:48:46 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Subby sounds like they missed the memo that they're getting old.

/see also: Happy Days (50s), Mad Men (60s), that 70s Show (70s)
//.. and that WW2 show with the huge battleship (40s)
///and all turn of the century westerns


It's bound to happen although unlike those shows, I'm not sure this one will be actually set in the 90s. The article just says that the main character will have "indie rock parents." For all we know, they could just be the Gen-X version of Boomer parents that were out of touch with their kids' generation in 90s sitcoms.
 
2012-10-24 06:54:12 AM
Whut?
CBS broke its hip and now it can't get up?
 
mhd
2012-10-24 06:56:09 AM

RatMaster999: That would be the evil wizard, Bargle, and the cleric Aleena.


And apparently Aleena was a bottlevial blonde.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-24 07:06:19 AM
i26.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-24 07:07:40 AM
Brought to you by
Remington Shotguns

Remington . Go out with a bang!
 
2012-10-24 07:29:29 AM
Remington Shotguns: The Retirement Plan of a New Generation.
 
2012-10-24 07:35:58 AM
Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
 
2012-10-24 07:47:47 AM
Aaaaaaaaand he's the one who likes our pretty songs and he likes to sing along and he like to shoot his gun but he don't know what it means.
 
2012-10-24 07:51:19 AM
Courtney, have the writers for this show killed and make it look like a suicide. I know you can do it.
 
2012-10-24 07:54:56 AM
The producers originally used the working title "Come As You Are", but found that the concept was already in use for a work-in-progress sitcom called "Eighties".

/u mass?
 
2012-10-24 07:57:50 AM
Many Nirvana fans would agree that Kurt Cobain wouldn't have wanted CBS to use his song title to capitalize on the track's phenomenal success

Do you still get to be an iconoclast anti-mainstream hero if you had three videos on heavy rotation on Mtv and your band still has merchandise at Hot Topic? Does blowing your head off really give you that much hipster cred?
 
2012-10-24 07:59:42 AM
CBS = Contrived Bull Shiat.
 
2012-10-24 08:09:47 AM

hubcity: The producers originally used the working title "Come As You Are", but found that the concept was already in use for a work-in-progress sitcom called "Eighties".

/u mass?


That was educational.
 
2012-10-24 08:26:18 AM
Just name the show Bleach.

It should cover all the basis: ear bleach, eye bleach, soul bleach, I've got friends and they all drink bleach......waiiit a minute....
 
2012-10-24 08:29:59 AM
It's been done.

chicagoist.com
 
2012-10-24 08:30:29 AM
Tragically this will likely do well if for no other reason than most of the "stars" from that era need the cash.
 
2012-10-24 08:36:30 AM

Skarekrough: Tragically this will likely do well if for no other reason than most of the "stars" from that era need the cash.


userserve-ak.last.fm

I'm tired of being legendary and broke
And I'm too damn weird to hold no straight job
.....
Buy my snake oil
 
2012-10-24 08:39:11 AM

EyeballKid: hubcity: The producers originally used the working title "Come As You Are", but found that the concept was already in use for a work-in-progress sitcom called "Eighties".

/u mass?

That was educational.


I think Dave Grohl later played drums for Killing Joke as penance.
 
2012-10-24 09:10:03 AM
I'll just wait for the Floyd The Barber sitcom. 

/I'm ashamed.
 
2012-10-24 09:19:36 AM
I'm sure my elderly relatives will love this show just as much as they love that POS Big Bang Theory.
 
2012-10-24 09:26:26 AM
Oh I forgot my cheap one liner:

Everyone loves a scatterbrain!
 
2012-10-24 09:27:53 AM
man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...
 
2012-10-24 09:35:42 AM

Mugato: Many Nirvana fans would agree that Kurt Cobain wouldn't have wanted CBS to use his song title to capitalize on the track's phenomenal success

Do you still get to be an iconoclast anti-mainstream hero if you had three videos on heavy rotation on Mtv and your band still has merchandise at Hot Topic? Does blowing your head off really give you that much hipster cred?


That's a pretty big part of reason WHY he killed himself. The guy had literally no idea what to do with a fan base and it weirded him out. Nothing kills one's love of making music like a few years in the record industry.
 
2012-10-24 09:38:57 AM

dennysgod: I'll just wait for the Floyd The Barber sitcom. 

/I'm ashamed.


He liked Aunt Bea's taters.
 
2012-10-24 09:44:52 AM

Omahawg: you know who needs a cooking show based on his songs?

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 421x480]


oh, take me down to a pair of denny's the pancakes are delish and oh so filling
won't you please bake some rolls?


OK, that was funny!
 
2012-10-24 09:44:58 AM

FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...


i.imgur.com
Has no idea what you are talking about...
 
2012-10-24 09:54:32 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Mentalpatient87: Oh, and from the writers of Big Bang Th-

*laugh track*

-eory.

I'm glad they include a laugh track on that show. I wouldn't know when I was supposed to laugh without it.


Laugh tracks in sitcoms are always always unnecessary and awful and bad.

But BBT was actually pretty good for the first two seasons. Then it became The Weird Sheldon Show plus girlfriend angst.
 
2012-10-24 09:57:27 AM

Vacation Bible School: FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...

[i.imgur.com image 708x531]
Has no idea what you are talking about...


man, I bet if that came out like like 3 or 4 years later it would've been a hit. it still would've been shiat, but at least it would be a hit.


but yeah, we're probably going to get a That 90s Show eventually.
 
2012-10-24 10:01:57 AM

Omahawg: what about a tee vee show about someone who spends their life, and each episode, watching inane, ignorant foolishness on a box, on a screen, or on a cellular telephone, complete with the associated vapid interaction associated with such media, in between having the life sucked out of them for eight hours a day (10 with the commute) and perhaps the occasional desperate fapping or unsatisfactory, and therefore humorous, social entanglement? As the season progresses, the antihero or anti-heroine grows ever more pale and zombiefied, a mere dry husk of a human being who only speaks in the gray monotone like the smiths but not as whimpy and then finally snap and going on a murder rampage of death. the next season starts with the main character in the shower like nothing happened but you could add your own supporting lovable cast of miscreants every year knowing that they would all die in the aforementioned murder rampage of death in amusing and satisfying ways.

it would need a laugh track but I bet we could sell lots of soap



They did that it was called Beavis and Butthead
 
2012-10-24 10:27:58 AM
Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.

I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.
 
2012-10-24 10:30:28 AM

FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...


I feel like 90s nostalgia would be redundant...has much really changed since then? Hell, even on the music front, 90s rock still makes up, what...25% of so of virtually all modern rock stations playlists? Sure seems that way at least.
 
2012-10-24 10:40:47 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.


I will not have an unkind word spoken about Soundgarden in this thread, meester.
 
2012-10-24 10:44:53 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.


But, nobody gave 2 shiats about that album until Reznor toured with it on Lollapalooza, has a unique sound, a cute gimmicky schtick (no drums!) and a very marketable image/logo for his product. Let's not go overboard with the Reznor worship, that's all.
 
2012-10-24 10:46:11 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.

I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.




While I agree that Nirvana's role in killing hair metal is a bit overstated, no way was NIN at all the knock out punch. Jane's Addiction is probably closer to the truth, though they weren't as big a catalyst as Nirvana was.

I'm mostly annoyed that Nirvana is hailed as legendary, but they didn't really add anything to the musical lexicon.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...

I feel like 90s nostalgia would be redundant...has much really changed since then? Hell, even on the music front, 90s rock still makes up, what...25% of so of virtually all modern rock stations playlists? Sure seems that way at least.




I kind of agree, though I think we have more in common with late 90s/early 00s culture than "The 90s = 1992-1994" period that everyone associates with the 90s. I think there's still a bit of a douchebag stink to current popculture that I heavily associate with the late 90s. But yeah, for some kind of revivalism to happen, the era has to have gone away for at least a little bit. When i was in the Seattle area, KNDD's playlist (see upper right corner) seemed to indicate that the 90s had more or less never went away. I'm not complaining, though it is rather odd as it was pretty much 95% new material when I moved there in the late 90s.
 
2012-10-24 10:49:43 AM

Vacation Bible School: FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...

[i.imgur.com image 708x531]
Has no idea what you are talking about...


Little known fact... that's Glenn Howerton second from left.
 
2012-10-24 11:10:29 AM
Call it that 90s show?
 
2012-10-24 11:25:42 AM
I've got the monitors, I've got the television, I've got the glasses...

Give us 'Nature Trail to Hell: In 3D' already!!
 
kab
2012-10-24 11:33:01 AM
So it's a show about an absurdly overrated band, who's singer decided that simply no longer writing wasn't a good option for getting out of the limelight?
 
2012-10-24 11:33:48 AM

kab: So it's a show about an absurdly overrated band, who's singer decided that simply no longer writing wasn't a good option for getting out of the limelight?


But enough about Creed...
 
2012-10-24 12:08:34 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Vacation Bible School: FeedTheCollapse: man, the 90s nostalgia is going to be much sadder and contrived than the 80s nostalgia...

[i.imgur.com image 708x531]
Has no idea what you are talking about...

man, I bet if that came out like like 3 or 4 years later it would've been a hit. it still would've been shiat, but at least it would be a hit.


but yeah, we're probably going to get a That 90s Show eventually.


But which 90s? Neon-soaked Vanilla Ice-obsessed 90-91? Grungy, surreal, dawn of the internet-era 91-96? Or 97-99 which is basically alot like today except with more Limp Bizkit and Boy Bands and less tweeting?
 
mhd
2012-10-24 12:16:50 PM

ClintonKun: But which 90s?


I kinda like the Irish version.
 
2012-10-24 12:27:04 PM
Things that make the 90s one of the better decades:

2.bp.blogspot.com

24.media.tumblr.com

www.ecb.org

modmobilian.com

confusedmatthew.com

At least for being a kid growing up during it.

Go ahead and add more to the list if you wish.
 
2012-10-24 12:50:40 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.

I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.


bwaa haahaa.

Look, I love NIN as much as anyone but no one gave two shiats about PHM and the only song on it worth a turd is Head Like a Hole, a song that was almost as overplayed as Smells Like Teen Spirit... except that it was just a pop song with industrial leanings instead of a rock song.

Oh, and PHM dated so badly that it is practically unlistenable now.

And another comparison - PHM machine went triple platinum IN 2003. That's 3 million copies.

By that time Nevermind had sold 30 MILLION COPIES.

So, no, Trent had shiat all to do with the death of hair metal. Hell, the biggest thing Trent did was this -

www.musiceffect.com

you can try to re-write history to minimize Nirvana's importance, but it is akin to neo-nazis claiming that the holocaust didn't really happen.
 
2012-10-24 12:54:48 PM

frepnog: bwaa haahaa.


All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.
 
2012-10-24 12:59:19 PM

Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.


yeah, easily duplicatable slow paced crap rock, AIC's forte, was copied and copied and copied.

Not sure what it means that no band really got famous sounding like Nirvana.

One of a kind, man.
 
2012-10-24 01:01:59 PM

Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.


The vocal "stylings" of Creed and Nickleback seemed to be influenced by Eddie Vedder imo. Without the talent.

And I'm not sure but I think they inspired the "Ermahgerd" meme.

Wrrth errrrrrms wrrrrd errrrrprrrrrrrrn....
 
2012-10-24 01:02:57 PM

frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.

yeah, easily duplicatable slow paced crap rock, AIC's forte, was copied and copied and copied.

Not sure what it means that no band really got famous sounding like Nirvana.

One of a kind, man.


Are you being snarky? If you are you need to work on your delivery.
 
2012-10-24 01:14:02 PM

Gunny Highway: frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.

yeah, easily duplicatable slow paced crap rock, AIC's forte, was copied and copied and copied.

Not sure what it means that no band really got famous sounding like Nirvana.

One of a kind, man.

Are you being snarky? If you are you need to work on your delivery.


nope, not really. Never really cared for AIC nor for the copycats that followed.
 
2012-10-24 01:16:52 PM
Sounds like Courtney needed the money.

/Neck palm
 
2012-10-24 01:21:49 PM

frepnog: you can try to re-write history to minimize Nirvana's importance, but it is akin to neo-nazis claiming that the holocaust didn't really happen.


Did...did you just Godwin a pop-culture thread? Holy shiat, man. Take it easy.
 
2012-10-24 01:25:04 PM

frepnog: Never really cared for AIC nor for the copycats that followed.


Rock and roll. Cheers.
 
2012-10-24 01:31:10 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: frepnog: you can try to re-write history to minimize Nirvana's importance, but it is akin to neo-nazis claiming that the holocaust didn't really happen.

Did...did you just Godwin a pop-culture thread? Holy shiat, man. Take it easy.


look, i like nirvana and all, they were never my fav band or anything but i like them. i don't think they were the bestest band ever. but what they did is undeniable. people that try to claim otherwise are straight up fooling themselves and ignoring reality. Nirvana killed hair metal overnight and opened the gates of success for the bands that followed. Yes, right place and time and all that, but you know what? They WERE in the right place in the right time with the right album and it was pretty damned impressive.
 
2012-10-24 02:01:06 PM

frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.

yeah, easily duplicatable slow paced crap rock, AIC's forte, was copied and copied and copied.

Not sure what it means that no band really got famous sounding like Nirvana.

One of a kind, man.

Are you being snarky? If you are you need to work on your delivery.

nope, not really. Never really cared for AIC nor for the copycats that followed.


Shame. Layne Staley had an inimitable voice and meant the words he wrote and sang; it was like watching an athlete you know was playing hurt. He & Cantrell could make some pretty haunting sounds together too. The schlock that followed in their wake though, wow. Holy crap was it bad.
 
kab
2012-10-24 03:11:46 PM

frepnog: Nirvana killed hair metal overnight and opened the gates of success for the bands that followed.


This post brought to you by someone who's listening was dictated entirely by MTV in the early 90's.
 
2012-10-24 03:34:35 PM

kab: frepnog: Nirvana killed hair metal overnight and opened the gates of success for the bands that followed.

This post brought to you by someone who's listening was dictated entirely by MTV in the early 90's.


Nope. Wrong. Into death metal at the time.
 
2012-10-24 03:36:00 PM

frepnog: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.

I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.

bwaa haahaa.

Look, I love NIN as much as anyone but no one gave two shiats about PHM and the only song on it worth a turd is Head Like a Hole, a song that was almost as overplayed as Smells Like Teen Spirit... except that it was just a pop song with industrial leanings instead of a rock song.

Oh, and PHM dated so badly that it is practically unlistenable now.

And another comparison - PHM machine went triple platinum IN 2003. That's 3 million copies.

By that time Nevermind had sold 30 MILLION COPIES.

So, no, Trent had shiat all to do with the death of hair metal. Hell, the biggest thing Trent did was this -

[www.musiceffect.com image 300x300]

you can try to re-write history to minimize Nirvana's importance, but it is akin to neo-nazis claiming that the holocaust didn't really happen.


Umm...I lived through that era of rock and I don't remember Nirvana being that important to well anybody, but posers who wouldn't know the difference between good music and a McDonald's hamburger.
 
2012-10-24 04:05:28 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Umm...I lived through that era of rock and I don't remember Nirvana being that important to well anybody, but posers who wouldn't know the difference between good music and a McDonald's hamburger.


GAWD, I wish I could've traded the lame scene I had in favor of yours back in the day. It sounds so edgy, so EXTREME!!!!! Did you wear black trenchcoats with Marilyn Manson patches on them? Drink a lotta Fruitopia 'til you got a sugar buzz? Oooh, did you drink Jolt Cola? Did you snowboard? Shiat, I was such a poser compared to you!
 
2012-10-24 04:05:34 PM

Slaves2Darkness: frepnog: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nirvana gets WAY too much credit for their impact. The mainstreaming of alt rock was happening with or without them. If Nirvana gets credit for anything, it's for mainstreaming the specific and godawful grunge genre.

I give Trent Reznor more credit for changing the mainstream rock scene than anyone, given that Pretty Hate Machine came out in 1989. THAT is what destroyed spandex rock.

bwaa haahaa.

Look, I love NIN as much as anyone but no one gave two shiats about PHM and the only song on it worth a turd is Head Like a Hole, a song that was almost as overplayed as Smells Like Teen Spirit... except that it was just a pop song with industrial leanings instead of a rock song.

Oh, and PHM dated so badly that it is practically unlistenable now.

And another comparison - PHM machine went triple platinum IN 2003. That's 3 million copies.

By that time Nevermind had sold 30 MILLION COPIES.

So, no, Trent had shiat all to do with the death of hair metal. Hell, the biggest thing Trent did was this -

[www.musiceffect.com image 300x300]

you can try to re-write history to minimize Nirvana's importance, but it is akin to neo-nazis claiming that the holocaust didn't really happen.

Umm...I lived through that era of rock and I don't remember Nirvana being that important to well anybody, but posers who wouldn't know the difference between good music and a McDonald's hamburger.


Is it painful being so wrong? I imagine it must be.
 
kab
2012-10-24 05:13:36 PM

frepnog: kab: frepnog: Nirvana killed hair metal overnight and opened the gates of success for the bands that followed.

This post brought to you by someone who's listening was dictated entirely by MTV in the early 90's.

Nope. Wrong. Into death metal at the time.


Then you should know better.
 
2012-10-24 05:16:45 PM
When Guns n Roses came out, that's when everyone took off the make-up. Nirvana's meandering 5 chord whinefest was just what everyone attributed it to.
 
2012-10-24 05:35:54 PM
 
2012-10-24 05:55:22 PM
 
2012-10-24 06:27:05 PM
The hatred aimed at Nirvana has always confused me.
 
2012-10-24 06:32:48 PM

Gunny Highway: The hatred aimed at Nirvana has always confused me.


Nirvana is the Millennials' version of Skrillex. The people who hate, just don't get it.
 
2012-10-24 07:04:34 PM

Flakeloaf: frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.

yeah, easily duplicatable slow paced crap rock, AIC's forte, was copied and copied and copied.

Not sure what it means that no band really got famous sounding like Nirvana.

One of a kind, man.

Are you being snarky? If you are you need to work on your delivery.

nope, not really. Never really cared for AIC nor for the copycats that followed.

Shame. Layne Staley had an inimitable voice and meant the words he wrote and sang; it was like watching an athlete you know was playing hurt. He & Cantrell could make some pretty haunting sounds together too. The schlock that followed in their wake though, wow. Holy crap was it bad.


Mad Season's "Above" CD has a permanent spot on my play list. Layne's singing on that was just amazing.
 
2012-10-24 07:49:47 PM
touch me, i'm sick
 
2012-10-25 12:57:05 AM
I was never much of a Nirvana fan, but 'Smells like Teen Spirit' was my LEAST favorite song of theirs.
 
Skr
2012-10-25 06:04:41 AM
Love Nirvana. Been a huge fan most of my life. This T.V. idea just makes me wince though. The premise sounds... horribly misplaced with the title.

/was a guitarist/singer in a Nirvana cover band back in early 2000's, the audience had a lot of energy and loved the material. 
//no point in arguing music tastes, plenty of sound around for everyone under the sun.
 
2012-10-25 09:16:04 AM

Gunny Highway: The hatred aimed at Nirvana has always confused me.


I like Nirvana, but I don't think Nirvana did anything that other bands didn't do much better.Their fans also strike me as people who are just now discovering music, so talking with their fans about music is always frustrating since they can't seem to move beyond the frame of how other bands are related to Nirvana (specifically, whether Kurt liked them or not.); Playskool's "My First favorite Band", if you will. To be fair, that might be a more recent thing, though.

I also think that for a as big of an impact as Nirvana made in the early 90s, that impact was more or less gone by the late 90s.

Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.


I do agree that for how much Nirvana is cited as being influential, i really can't name any bands beyond 1995 or so that sound like Nirvana, but I can name quite a few since that took cues from AIC and/or Pearl Jam. At best, Nirvana introduced people to Sonic Youth, et al. who then influenced those same people to form a band... but does Nirvana really deserve credit in that equation?
 
2012-10-25 10:33:28 AM

FeedTheCollapse: Gunny Highway: The hatred aimed at Nirvana has always confused me.

I like Nirvana, but I don't think Nirvana did anything that other bands didn't do much better.Their fans also strike me as people who are just now discovering music, so talking with their fans about music is always frustrating since they can't seem to move beyond the frame of how other bands are related to Nirvana (specifically, whether Kurt liked them or not.); Playskool's "My First favorite Band", if you will. To be fair, that might be a more recent thing, though.

I also think that for a as big of an impact as Nirvana made in the early 90s, that impact was more or less gone by the late 90s.

Gunny Highway: frepnog: bwaa haahaa.

All of the ball-less, soulless rock bands that came out in the 2000's were heavily influenced by AIC. To me, they were the most influential band to come out of the grunge era because you can heard their sound in a millions bands that followed in their wake.

I do agree that for how much Nirvana is cited as being influential, i really can't name any bands beyond 1995 or so that sound like Nirvana, but I can name quite a few since that took cues from AIC and/or Pearl Jam. At best, Nirvana introduced people to Sonic Youth, et al. who then influenced those same people to form a band... but does Nirvana really deserve credit in that equation?


honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy. Most of the other bands of that time really weren't all that special (slow driving rock) and so the copycats were rampant. I could be wrong, of course, but that's just what I hear.
 
2012-10-25 10:38:50 AM

frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.




I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.
 
2012-10-25 10:42:26 AM

FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.



I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.


All of those PacNW bands borrowed heavily from The Wipers sound.
 
2012-10-25 10:47:26 AM

Onkel Buck:
Mad Season's "Above" CD has a permanent spot on my play list. Layne's singing on that was just amazing.


Why was I not made aware of this while it was being recorded? Heads will roll for this.
 
2012-10-25 11:15:42 AM

FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.



I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.


i always love that argument against Nirvana.

"these bands that no one listened to were the real bands".

30 million records sold. Of one album. So let me tell you this - if Nirvana was just doing the same thing these other bands were doing, they obviously did it so well that the other bands sounded like crap in comparison, and did it so distinctively that no other band could copy that success.
 
2012-10-25 11:25:58 AM

frepnog: FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.



I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.

i always love that argument against Nirvana.

"these bands that no one listened to were the real bands".

30 million records sold. Of one album. So let me tell you this - if Nirvana was just doing the same thing these other bands were doing, they obviously did it so well that the other bands sounded like crap in comparison, and did it so distinctively that no other band could copy that success.




Yes, Argumentum ad Populum is a much better argument and totally rooted in fact.
 
2012-10-25 11:53:43 AM

FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.



I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.

i always love that argument against Nirvana.

"these bands that no one listened to were the real bands".

30 million records sold. Of one album. So let me tell you this - if Nirvana was just doing the same thing these other bands were doing, they obviously did it so well that the other bands sounded like crap in comparison, and did it so distinctively that no other band could copy that success.



Yes, Argumentum ad Populum is a much better argument and totally rooted in fact.


if you can sell 30 million copies of an abrasive rock record with incomprehensible lyrics, you are doing SOMETHING right.

fact is that Nevermind is a classic record that holds up and sounds as fresh today as it did in 1991 when it was released. It hold up better than most of the records that their contemporaries made. It didn't stagnate as a grunge record because honestly, it ISN'T a grunge record; it is a polished rock record with grunge leanings. It has as much cultural significance as much of The Beatles catalog.

You might not agree. That's cool. You are just wrong. Sorry, but you can try to downplay Nirvana's importance, you can pretend that Nevermind was not a watershed moment in music history, you can act like other bands of that era were more important or made better music.

You are still just wrong.

Sorry about that.
 
2012-10-25 12:04:33 PM

frepnog: you can act like other bands of that era were more important or made better music.


well, you can't be wrong about thinking other bands made better music, but I can point out that I can think of plenty more bands that were influenced by Nirvana's influence (Sonic Youth, et al.) than Nirvana themselves, despite having only a small fraction of the sales. Hell, I can think of more bands influenced by Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Smashing Pumpkins than Nirvana.

My point is that Nirvana's musical influence is pretty much non-existent after about 1996 or so. Nirvana's influence in terms of how the major labels were much more willing to sign and/or promote Indie acts more or less ended when Nu Metal and boy bands (re)emerged in the late 90s. You could possibly argue, though I disagree, that Nirvana's popularity meant that the other, lesser selling influences were saved from dying a death in obscurity, but I doubt that would happen with the emergence of the internet. So again: for as big as Nirvana was, what is their legacy now?
 
2012-10-25 12:05:05 PM

frepnog: FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else that I think that it was just impossible to copy.



I think in terms of the mainstream, yeah Nirvana really stuck out; but they otherwise weren't doing anything Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur, Jr., Replacements, etc weren't doing. I don't think it's so much that Nirvana was "impossible to copy" as much anyone inclined to listen to Nirvana probably moved onto another band to copy.

i always love that argument against Nirvana.

"these bands that no one listened to were the real bands".

30 million records sold. Of one album. So let me tell you this - if Nirvana was just doing the same thing these other bands were doing, they obviously did it so well that the other bands sounded like crap in comparison, and did it so distinctively that no other band could copy that success.


McDonalds sell lots of burgers

Another thing in common between them is that both Kurt and Ronald don't wash their hair for days
 
2012-10-25 12:48:32 PM

FeedTheCollapse: My point is that Nirvana's musical influence is pretty much non-existent after about 1996 or so


You mean to tell me giants such as Marcy Playground, Disturbed, Kid Rock, Hootie & the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Korn, et al weren't influenced by Nirvana? I hope somebody else can break the news to the band, I just can't stand to see grown men cry.
 
2012-10-25 01:03:27 PM

FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: you can act like other bands of that era were more important or made better music.

well, you can't be wrong about thinking other bands made better music, but I can point out that I can think of plenty more bands that were influenced by Nirvana's influence (Sonic Youth, et al.) than Nirvana themselves, despite having only a small fraction of the sales. Hell, I can think of more bands influenced by Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Smashing Pumpkins than Nirvana.

My point is that Nirvana's musical influence is pretty much non-existent after about 1996 or so. Nirvana's influence in terms of how the major labels were much more willing to sign and/or promote Indie acts more or less ended when Nu Metal and boy bands (re)emerged in the late 90s. You could possibly argue, though I disagree, that Nirvana's popularity meant that the other, lesser selling influences were saved from dying a death in obscurity, but I doubt that would happen with the emergence of the internet. So again: for as big as Nirvana was, what is their legacy now?


their legacy now is still what it was at kurt's death. good music that brought about an industry wide shift with a massively popular album that not only stands the test of time but continues to inspire. they are a part of history, with less tarnish than many of their contemporaries since we don't have to worry about any ill-advised reunion tours (and taking into account that their last record was an intentionally overly abrasive backlash at Nevermind that was STILL fantastic). They popularized the "unplugged" events with an album that is still better that every single unplugged record that came after.

They will never be forgotten and are as close to a household name as any rock band ever was.

What do YOU think their legacy is? 3 or 4 crappy records that no one liked, were overrated and that no one remembers?
 
2012-10-25 02:32:44 PM
Guns n' Roses killed hair metal. Nirvana made it cool for talentless hacks to try to have a musical career. It took twenty years to undo the damage.

/welcome back, guitar solos!
 
kab
2012-10-25 04:10:45 PM
maximum trolling going on here.
 
2012-10-25 06:44:39 PM
I never quite get the boner flaring that goes on in music threads. It's kind of like cawk measuring at best. Since I don't care at all though I'll throw my lowly opinion in.

Yes, Nirvana ruled the airwaves and MTV in the early to mid-90's, or whenever Kurt's head went supernova.

Yes, there were other bands out there that may have been better in every way that didn't sell 30 bajillion records.

The fact of the matter that no one ever seems to talk about is luck. That's not to say one that succeeds is a loser with no talent who got lucky. What it has to do with is having the right person with connections find your sound, see your style, maybe even change your style, find a way to market you, power broker some deals to get you more play on the rotation on the radio, TV, whatever to spread it around, hope that it catches on, and all the masses start talking about your band (formula applies to products / movies, anything almost). It's not that complicated really. Something catches fire and the masses select things that they think other people like and think is cool so they think they are cool too.

That's not to denigrate artists and what they produce. I just don't think that many folks realize their is a giant corporate machine that hedges their bets on these, "properties," and markets the shiat out of them until they're over saturated and undesirable then kicks them out. That's the cost of going mainstream I guess. And all of that is a lottery. One band gets to skyrocket while the next plays at Skagg's Saloon.

There's plenty of music for everyone to enjoy. Let's not piss on it. Unless we are talking about Creed or Nickleback. Seriously, fark those guys.
 
2012-10-25 09:53:12 PM

frepnog: FeedTheCollapse: frepnog: you can act like other bands of that era were more important or made better music.

well, you can't be wrong about thinking other bands made better music, but I can point out that I can think of plenty more bands that were influenced by Nirvana's influence (Sonic Youth, et al.) than Nirvana themselves, despite having only a small fraction of the sales. Hell, I can think of more bands influenced by Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Smashing Pumpkins than Nirvana.

My point is that Nirvana's musical influence is pretty much non-existent after about 1996 or so. Nirvana's influence in terms of how the major labels were much more willing to sign and/or promote Indie acts more or less ended when Nu Metal and boy bands (re)emerged in the late 90s. You could possibly argue, though I disagree, that Nirvana's popularity meant that the other, lesser selling influences were saved from dying a death in obscurity, but I doubt that would happen with the emergence of the internet. So again: for as big as Nirvana was, what is their legacy now?

their legacy now is still what it was at kurt's death. good music that brought about an industry wide shift with a massively popular album that not only stands the test of time but continues to inspire. they are a part of history, with less tarnish than many of their contemporaries since we don't have to worry about any ill-advised reunion tours (and taking into account that their last record was an intentionally overly abrasive backlash at Nevermind that was STILL fantastic). They popularized the "unplugged" events with an album that is still better that every single unplugged record that came after.

They will never be forgotten and are as close to a household name as any rock band ever was.

What do YOU think their legacy is? 3 or 4 crappy records that no one liked, were overrated and that no one remembers?



so Nirvana's impact is that they made a popular album... and nothing else? If it didn't really leave anything in its wake, why the hell is talked about as if it's another Thriller, Sgt. Pepper, etc.? I mean, it's a good album, but it's kind of akin to a good album by a band who's not much more than the sum of their influences; enjoyable for being good at what it is, but it doesn't really break any new ground on its own.
 
2012-10-26 11:11:24 PM

frepnog: honestly, Nirvana sounded so much like no one else


Except, perhaps, like Boston and Killing Joke... at least Smells Like Teen Spirit uses the same riff from More Than a Feelin' and Come As You Are is straight from Killing Joke's Eighties.

Like all bands, they built on what they new. They definitely did something different with it than was already being done, but they didn't pop out of a vacuum.
 
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