Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Is this before or after Trade-War with China?
EvilEgg: Good for him. Hospitals are boring and no one really wants to visit, they just feel they are obliged to, now the gays have a built in excuse.Now I am even more jealous, they get style, neatness, they don't get pressured to marry, now this. If they get the right to avoid those god awful jack and Jill wedding showers I'm calling my congressman.
ArkAngel: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mitt's gonna have a busy first day...8:00-Noon: InaugurationNoon-12:15: Restrict civil rights for gay couples.12:15 -12:30: Tax Cuts12:30-1:15: Lunch1:15-1:30 : Trade war with China1:30-1:35: Repeal Obamacare1:35-2:45: Approve Keystone Pipeline2:45-3:00: Open all Federal lands for oil drilling.3:00-4:30: Create 12 million new jobs4:30-5:00: Tax Cuts5:00-5:15: Call Ahmadinejad, ask if he has Prince Albert in the can.5:15-5:30: "Reinstate" Work for Welfare requirements.5:30-6:00: Meet with Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress6:00-6:30: Bust Federal Unions6:30-7:00: Issue executive orders reversing all of Obama's executive orders7:00-8:00: Light Supper8:00-8:30: Reinstate the Mexico City Policy8:30-9:00: Secure borders and ask all illegals to self-deport.9:00-10:00: Death10:00-1100: Death11:00-12:00: Death12:00-1:00: Lunch
Nrokreffefp: I greatly dislike Mitt, but anyone up in arms about this is a chicken-little style moron. The president has no ability to make a decree to this nature, and he loves money more than he loves the idea of becoming his own God. Porn is big money and so are abortions. He will NEVER touch these things.
coeyagi: colon_pow: the author built a beautiful strawman. then kicked it's ass!!well done.Your post - t would have been just as effective if you placed 13 ellipses in a row followed by "best part. forever!"
Amos Quito: So, who should be allowed do decide such things? The Federal government?
grimlock1972: Not like he has the gay vote right now anyway.
Brick-House: To all the libtards out there, here's a full moon to howell at.[sciencebasedlife.files.wordpress.com image 320x320]With all the BS that needs to be fixed, you really think he's going to spend a second on this. Libtard Logic -Yes, they are that stupid.
GoodyearPimp: I need a Romney supporter (or anyone that supports this sort of change) to explain to me how this does anything positive. There are gay people having sex right now and no matter how hard I try, I can never stop that from happening even if I outlawed that particular behavior in every country in the world. Gay people visiting at the hospital affects my life even less than that, but I'll bet it improves their lives quite a bit.
Dinobot: What about the afternoon tea?
Mikey1969: Rename Obamacare "Romneycare"
Brytanica1: One of the best things I have ever seen was back in 2008 when my best friend's partner of 12 years wound up in the hospital with an aortic dissection.This hambeast of a nurse tried to keep him out of the ICU after his operation because he wasn't "real family" which started my friend on an HUGE loud fit.The cardiologist came out asking what the hell was going on and once the situation was explained proceeded to lay down the most epic verbal beatdown on the nurse which left her in incoherent, terrified tears./csb
Fluorescent Testicle: You say that like we currently have that right. We don't. I've relayed this story before, but the first time I tried to visit my SO in the hospital, I was called every slur under the sun, threatened with arrest and thrown out of the building. In fact, this is a major part of why I don't believe in the half-assed cop-out that is "Civil unions."/I usually don't care too much about the insults, but that one got me.//They wouldn't even tell me whether she was going to survive or not.///She did, thank everything.
Amos Quito: dletter: What I'd really love to see if Romney decided to have some sort of Q&A with 4th and 5th graders, and explain to a 10 year old who asks why he thinks his two parents who happen to be both women shouldn't be able to visit each other in the hospital like other kids parents can, or why a state should decide that.So, who should be allowed do decide such things? The Federal government?It wasn't long ago that same sex marriage was recognized NOWHERE in the US. If the decision were left up to the Feds, do you think there is any chance that it would be recognized in the US today?Seriously?It took STATES acting under their Constitutionally endowed powers to break that grip - first one, then another and another.Just about every time I hear "states rights" mentioned, some asshat brings up slavery, and tries to claim that only right-wing bigots want states rights.I laugh.A centralized authoritarian government is all good and well as long as you happen to agree with what it is doing, but the worm has a habit of turning, and first thing you know, you're FARKED.So if you give GodSaint Obama the power to dictate such matters to your favor (YAY), don't cry when his replacement uses that same power to do exactly what you DON'T want (oh shiat!)I've been watching as we rapidly shift toward a centralized authoritarian regime over the past several decades, and THAT is some scary shiat. /BE careful what you wish for
Lionel Mandrake: Fortunately for gay people, and other humans, that douchebag will never be President.
Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Lionel Mandrake: Fortunately for gay people, and other humans, that douchebag will never be President.Don't be so sure. Romney owns voting machines in Ohio and other key states. He also probably owns 5 members of the SCOTUS. He might not win the election but he could end up stealing it.
WorldCitizen: He's a heartless bastard if he does. So, yeah, probably.
sendtodave: Mikey1969: Rename Obamacare "Romneycare"Well, why not? That would fix the part that people don't like.theobamapart.jpg
whidbey: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Lionel Mandrake: Fortunately for gay people, and other humans, that douchebag will never be President.Don't be so sure. Romney owns voting machines in Ohio and other key states. He also probably owns 5 members of the SCOTUS. He might not win the election but he could end up stealing it.Ordinarily I'd dismiss that as tinfoil nuttery, but[img.timeinc.net image 400x527]On to the Republican-controlled House. Yeah it is scary.
Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Used to chuckle over it.
vpb: Yes, well this worked out well in the 1860's. Go for it Mittens.
MyRandomName: Seriously liberals. Stop lying. It makes you look silly. Romney would not put a federal mandate on no visitation rights. You are lying. Constantly.
MyRandomName: he would leave it to the states.
WhyteRaven74: MyRandomName: he would leave it to the states.Which is actually a problem...
tjfly: Ftfa:"This week Romney apparently believes that it should be up to the states to decide whether or not a spouse or child of gay and lesbian men and women should have the right to visit their loved ones in the hospital."How does this come close to subby's headline?
Bhasayate: WorldCitizen: He's a heartless bastard if he does. So, yeah, probably.1. If Romney does this, he's a heartless bastard. [Premise]2. Romney is a heartless bastard [Assumption]3. Thus, Romney will probably do this.Fallacy: Affirming the consequent.If A, then B. B, therefore, A.E.g., If Joe is a Freeper, then he's a mouth breather. Joe's a mouth breather. So, probably, Joe's a Freeper. No, Joe could also be a Libtard.E.g., If Mr. Rogers is a member of Al qaeda, then he is a terrorist. Mr. Rogers is a terrorist. So, probably, Mr. Rogers is a terrorist. No, Mr. Rogers could belong to Hezbollah, or the Irish Republican Army.
colon_pow: the author built a beautiful strawman. then kicked it's ass!!well done.
WorldCitizen: Amos Quito: WorldCitizen: /BE careful what you wish forFederal marriage issues:1) Immigration. I can't sponsor my spouse, even if legally married in the US, for a green card. That requires the feds not a state by state thing.2) Federal taxes. My employer allows same-sex partner benefits such as health insurance. However, the feds, unlike with straight married couples, tax those benefits as income increasing my tax burden way above a straight married couple.3) Inheritance. Many of the same issues with taxation.4) Military spouse benefits (or lack of) for same-sex partners.And as far as who chooses who can visit whom in the hospital, it should be the patient. However, the laws now don't always recognize that. My asshole brother who I hate could override my partner and not allow my partner to visit me or make decisions for me (if I'm not able to do so) because he's recognized as family and my partner is not. If I'm not able to make any decisions due to my condition, again, my partner could be completely refused any contact with me or decision making in favor of some other "family" member who I might not even like or want making decisions for me. Thus, we need legal protections for such things.Americans should have equal rights regardless of where they are in the United States. Thank you, 14th Amendment.Aaaand you're immediately blind to the FACT that the ONLY reason you have ANY of these rights in ANY state is because of "state's rights".I agree with you on every point, but you ASSUME that IF the fed is given supreme dictatorial power, it will ALWAYS do what YOU want.It won't, and when it doesn't, you won't have the option of petitioning for redress at the STATE level, or moving to another state. You'll have to either bite the bullet, or leave the country.I agree that it is good to let a state experiment with many things as long as it does not LIMIT a right otherwise provided to Americans outside of that state. Yes, it has been the more progressive ...
Ghastly: Nadie_AZ: Huh. And the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him, saying he'll be too busy fixing the economy to legislate against their agenda.Log Cabin Republicans are the urban professional gays with enough money that they think they'll be able to just buy their way out of any problems caused by legislation that makes gays second class citizens. Everyone I've talked to has been of the attitude "well I'm not really using my rights anyway and I'd really rather have money than rights when it comes right down to it". A lot of them are either very young gays who have no idea what it was like when cops used to bust into gay bars and crack open skulls just for shiats and giggles, or from rich families and grew up with an attitude that rich people do and should have more rights than the poor because they're a better class of people which is obvious because if they weren't better then they wouldn't be rich.
whidbey: And as usual, you boil it down with the voice of reason. Kudos as always.
timujin: colon_pow: the author built a beautiful strawman. then kicked it's ass!!well done.Do you not believe Romney will follow through on his pledges?
dethmagnetic: One of Mitt Romney's possible first actions if he were elected president would be to eliminate hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples...why? How does that help anyone, anywhere?
Old enough to know better: Way to keep the federal government out of our lives eh GOP?
WhyteRaven74: The dirty underbelly of states rights, you leave it to states to decide that some Americans aren't equal to others.
BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.
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