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2012-10-23 05:02:52 PM
Is this before or after Trade-War with China?
 
2012-10-23 05:10:04 PM

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Is this before or after Trade-War with China?


I'm pretty sure the only thing he's not flip-flopped on is his saber-rattling as his first act as president. This is probably second or third.
 
2012-10-23 05:16:27 PM
When Romney wins, I guarantee this happens at never o'clock
 
2012-10-23 05:33:49 PM
Because why not? Compassion and basic human decency are for losers! After all, as the Bible tells us "do unto others whatever you want because fark those people."
 
2012-10-23 05:45:08 PM
Mitt's gonna have a busy first day...

8:00-Noon: Inauguration
Noon-12:15: Restrict civil rights for gay couples.
12:15 -12:30: Tax Cuts
12:30-1:15: Lunch
1:15-1:30 : Trade war with China
1:30-1:35: Repeal Obamacare
1:35-2:45: Approve Keystone Pipeline
2:45-3:00: Open all Federal lands for oil drilling.
3:00-4:30: Create 12 million new jobs
4:30-5:00: Tax Cuts
5:00-5:15: Call Ahmadinejad, ask if he has Prince Albert in the can.
5:15-5:30: "Reinstate" Work for Welfare requirements.
5:30-6:00: Meet with Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress
6:00-6:30: Bust Federal Unions
6:30-7:00: Issue executive orders reversing all of Obama's executive orders
7:00-8:00: Light Supper
8:00-8:30: Reinstate the Mexico City Policy
8:30-9:00: Secure borders and ask all illegals to self-deport.
 
2012-10-23 06:15:05 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mitt's gonna have a busy first day...

8:00-Noon: Inauguration
Noon-12:15: Restrict civil rights for gay couples.
12:15 -12:30: Tax Cuts
12:30-1:15: Lunch
1:15-1:30 : Trade war with China
1:30-1:35: Repeal Obamacare
1:35-2:45: Approve Keystone Pipeline
2:45-3:00: Open all Federal lands for oil drilling.
3:00-4:30: Create 12 million new jobs
4:30-5:00: Tax Cuts
5:00-5:15: Call Ahmadinejad, ask if he has Prince Albert in the can.
5:15-5:30: "Reinstate" Work for Welfare requirements.
5:30-6:00: Meet with Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress
6:00-6:30: Bust Federal Unions
6:30-7:00: Issue executive orders reversing all of Obama's executive orders
7:00-8:00: Light Supper
8:00-8:30: Reinstate the Mexico City Policy
8:30-9:00: Secure borders and ask all illegals to self-deport.


9:00-10:00: Death
10:00-1100: Death
11:00-12:00: Death
12:00-1:00: Lunch
 
2012-10-23 06:54:17 PM
He's a heartless bastard if he does. So, yeah, probably.
 
2012-10-23 07:36:32 PM
Will this be in the form of an executive decision or will this be the result of his bipartisan skills?
 
2012-10-23 08:03:55 PM

WorldCitizen: He's a heartless bastard if he does. So, yeah, probably.


but if we wait 40 min, odds are he'll change his mind on the whole issue.
 
2012-10-23 08:07:53 PM
None of that that comes before whatever Israel tells him to do.
 
2012-10-23 08:12:16 PM
Huh. And the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him, saying he'll be too busy fixing the economy to legislate against their agenda.
 
2012-10-23 08:14:39 PM

Nadie_AZ: Huh. And the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him, saying he'll be too busy fixing the economy to legislate against their agenda.


lets hope the country isn't stupid enough to elect Romney. I think Obama's got this one in the bag but...ya just don't know till its over.
 
2012-10-23 08:14:48 PM

palladiate: Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Is this before or after Trade-War with China?

I'm pretty sure the only thing he's not flip-flopped on is his saber-rattling as his first act as president. This is probably second or third.


Who would trust him with a sharp piece of steel?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-23 08:16:09 PM
Yes, well this worked out well in the 1860's. Go for it Mittens.
 
2012-10-23 08:22:46 PM

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Huh. And the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him, saying he'll be too busy fixing the economy to legislate against their agenda.

lets hope the country isn't stupid enough to elect Romney. I think Obama's got this one in the bag but...ya just don't know till its over.


I don't even know, anymore. But I got a clue as to why last night when one of you fine gentlemen pointed out that CNN International posted Obama won the debate handily and CNN domestic said it was a tie (even though the details showed a 48-40 victory to Obama).

In the bag? I'm skeptical. I cannot fathom how Obama went from 90+% chance to win reelection to 60% in less than a week. Especially when Romney hasn't said anything of note or of truth in any of the debates. What do people out there who don't have a lot of time to get educated on the matter think? I read interviews of many voters and think 'no way'.
 
2012-10-23 08:24:09 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mitt's gonna have a busy first day...

8:00-Noon: Inauguration
Noon-12:15: Restrict civil rights for gay couples.
12:15 -12:30: Tax Cuts
12:30-1:15: Lunch
1:15-1:30 : Trade war with China
1:30-1:35: Repeal Obamacare
1:35-2:45: Approve Keystone Pipeline
2:45-3:00: Open all Federal lands for oil drilling.
3:00-4:30: Create 12 million new jobs
4:30-5:00: Tax Cuts
5:00-5:15: Call Ahmadinejad, ask if he has Prince Albert in the can.
5:15-5:30: "Reinstate" Work for Welfare requirements.
5:30-6:00: Meet with Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress
6:00-6:30: Bust Federal Unions
6:30-7:00: Issue executive orders reversing all of Obama's executive orders
7:00-8:00: Light Supper
8:00-8:30: Reinstate the Mexico City Policy
8:30-9:00: Secure borders and ask all illegals to self-deport.


When does he rebuild the navy?
 
2012-10-23 08:24:46 PM
Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.
 
2012-10-23 08:27:57 PM

BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.


I don't see how or why you'd believe something like that but...hey! if it helps you sleep at night then have at it.
 
2012-10-23 08:30:21 PM

BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.


Yeah, the thought of one's partner dying alone in a hospital bed tends to bring that out in someone who could face that situation. But, I suppose that's what Jesus would want, so that's what the US federal government should endorse.
 
2012-10-23 08:31:14 PM
Because that's what Jesus would do.
 
2012-10-23 08:33:05 PM

Nadie_AZ:

In the bag? I'm skeptical. I cannot fathom how Obama went from 90+% chance to win reelection to 60% in less than a week. Especially when Romney hasn't said anything of note or of truth in any of the debates. What do people out there who don't have a lot of time to get educated on the matter think? I read interviews of many voters and think 'no way'.


it makes sense once you understand and accept the fact that the news organizations in this country are under no obligation to report factual information. they NEED this race to be close. that keeps people tuning into the race. more controversy == higher ratings == more money. so of course they're gonna lie and say everything is a tie. to them, it's just good marketing. that's all it is - just business. that's all.
 
2012-10-23 08:34:11 PM

BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.


It's not a 'victory', nor is it a game.

/throw your shiat away
 
2012-10-23 08:38:07 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.

It's not a 'victory', nor is it a game.

/throw your shiat away


Nonsense, he views oppressing people as fun. He's a Republican.
 
2012-10-23 08:40:48 PM

Nadie_AZ: Huh. And the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him, saying he'll be too busy fixing the economy to legislate against their agenda.


Log Cabin Republicans are the urban professional gays with enough money that they think they'll be able to just buy their way out of any problems caused by legislation that makes gays second class citizens. Everyone I've talked to has been of the attitude "well I'm not really using my rights anyway and I'd really rather have money than rights when it comes right down to it". A lot of them are either very young gays who have no idea what it was like when cops used to bust into gay bars and crack open skulls just for shiats and giggles, or from rich families and grew up with an attitude that rich people do and should have more rights than the poor because they're a better class of people which is obvious because if they weren't better then they wouldn't be rich.
 
2012-10-23 08:52:40 PM
That sounds a lot like freedom to me.
 
2012-10-23 08:53:28 PM

BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.


i977.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-23 09:01:49 PM
By combining support for same-sex marriage and civil unions for same-sex couples that provide the same benefits as marriage, a May 2012 poll showed that 62 percent of Americans support equal legal recognition of LGBT relationships.

And that number isn't going to go down as we go forward... you are on the wrong side of history GOP.

What I'd really love to see if Romney decided to have some sort of Q&A with 4th and 5th graders, and explain to a 10 year old who asks why he thinks his two parents who happen to be both women shouldn't be able to visit each other in the hospital like other kids parents can, or why a state should decide that.

Of course, that is the reason why the candidates don't have public ops with kids.
 
2012-10-23 09:03:48 PM
And this from a sidebar of TFA:

Word Of Faith Fellowship Church Confined, Abused North Carolina Man For Being Gay: Report

I wonder who this church is rooting for this election?
 
2012-10-23 09:09:32 PM
I hear that one of his possible first acts in office will be to sacrifice the Obama children to his Aztec God.
 
2012-10-23 09:12:06 PM
Good for him. Hospitals are boring and no one really wants to visit, they just feel they are obliged to, now the gays have a built in excuse.

Now I am even more jealous, they get style, neatness, they don't get pressured to marry, now this. If they get the right to avoid those god awful jack and Jill wedding showers I'm calling my congressman.
 
2012-10-23 09:13:04 PM

I_C_Weener: I hear that one of his possible first acts in office will be to sacrifice the Obama children to his Aztec God.


nah. too small. besides, we've got plenty of tea baggers who will jump at the chance to die a painful death in a blood sacrifice to Romney's antediluvian gods.
 
2012-10-23 09:15:09 PM

EvilEgg: Good for him. Hospitals are boring and no one really wants to visit, they just feel they are obliged to, now the gays have a built in excuse.

Now I am even more jealous, they get style, neatness, they don't get pressured to marry, now this. If they get the right to avoid those god awful jack and Jill wedding showers I'm calling my congressman.



This a good point. I don't want my Mom gloating over me in hospital with cancer because I voted for Obama.

Romney should tighten this up to exclude all visitors not approved by the patient.
 
2012-10-23 09:25:07 PM

dletter: What I'd really love to see if Romney decided to have some sort of Q&A with 4th and 5th graders, and explain to a 10 year old who asks why he thinks his two parents who happen to be both women shouldn't be able to visit each other in the hospital like other kids parents can, or why a state should decide that.



So, who should be allowed do decide such things? The Federal government?

It wasn't long ago that same sex marriage was recognized NOWHERE in the US. If the decision were left up to the Feds, do you think there is any chance that it would be recognized in the US today?

Seriously?

It took STATES acting under their Constitutionally endowed powers to break that grip - first one, then another and another.

Just about every time I hear "states rights" mentioned, some asshat brings up slavery, and tries to claim that only right-wing bigots want states rights.

I laugh.

A centralized authoritarian government is all good and well as long as you happen to agree with what it is doing, but the worm has a habit of turning, and first thing you know, you're FARKED.

So if you give GodSaint Obama the power to dictate such matters to your favor (YAY), don't cry when his replacement uses that same power to do exactly what you DON'T want (oh shiat!)

I've been watching as we rapidly shift toward a centralized authoritarian regime over the past several decades, and THAT is some scary shiat. 


/BE careful what you wish for
 
2012-10-23 09:31:55 PM
GODSAINT OBAMA SHALL SMITE HIS ENEMIES WITH HIS FIERY +3 SWORD OF SOCIALISM!
 
2012-10-23 09:40:58 PM

Amos Quito: dletter: What I'd really love to see if Romney decided to have some sort of Q&A with 4th and 5th graders, and explain to a 10 year old who asks why he thinks his two parents who happen to be both women shouldn't be able to visit each other in the hospital like other kids parents can, or why a state should decide that.


So, who should be allowed do decide such things? The Federal government?

It wasn't long ago that same sex marriage was recognized NOWHERE in the US. If the decision were left up to the Feds, do you think there is any chance that it would be recognized in the US today?

Seriously?

It took STATES acting under their Constitutionally endowed powers to break that grip - first one, then another and another.

Just about every time I hear "states rights" mentioned, some asshat brings up slavery, and tries to claim that only right-wing bigots want states rights.

I laugh.

A centralized authoritarian government is all good and well as long as you happen to agree with what it is doing, but the worm has a habit of turning, and first thing you know, you're FARKED.

So if you give GodSaint Obama the power to dictate such matters to your favor (YAY), don't cry when his replacement uses that same power to do exactly what you DON'T want (oh shiat!)

I've been watching as we rapidly shift toward a centralized authoritarian regime over the past several decades, and THAT is some scary shiat. 


/BE careful what you wish for


Federal marriage issues:

1) Immigration. I can't sponsor my spouse, even if legally married in the US, for a green card. That requires the feds not a state by state thing.
2) Federal taxes. My employer allows same-sex partner benefits such as health insurance. However, the feds, unlike with straight married couples, tax those benefits as income increasing my tax burden way above a straight married couple.
3) Inheritance. Many of the same issues with taxation.
4) Military spouse benefits (or lack of) for same-sex partners.

And as far as who chooses who can visit whom in the hospital, it should be the patient. However, the laws now don't always recognize that. My asshole brother who I hate could override my partner and not allow my partner to visit me or make decisions for me (if I'm not able to do so) because he's recognized as family and my partner is not. If I'm not able to make any decisions due to my condition, again, my partner could be completely refused any contact with me or decision making in favor of some other "family" member who I might not even like or want making decisions for me. Thus, we need legal protections for such things.

Americans should have equal rights regardless of where they are in the United States. Thank you, 14th Amendment.
 
2012-10-23 09:41:31 PM
I highly doubt he'd do this. I think he'd pay lip service to it, but it wouldn't fly.
 
2012-10-23 09:41:49 PM
Don't observe Schrödinger's Mitt.
 
2012-10-23 09:53:47 PM

WorldCitizen: /BE careful what you wish for

Federal marriage issues:

1) Immigration. I can't sponsor my spouse, even if legally married in the US, for a green card. That requires the feds not a state by state thing.
2) Federal taxes. My employer allows same-sex partner benefits such as health insurance. However, the feds, unlike with straight married couples, tax those benefits as income increasing my tax burden way above a straight married couple.
3) Inheritance. Many of the same issues with taxation.
4) Military spouse benefits (or lack of) for same-sex partners.

And as far as who chooses who can visit whom in the hospital, it should be the patient. However, the laws now don't always recognize that. My asshole brother who I hate could override my partner and not allow my partner to visit me or make decisions for me (if I'm not able to do so) because he's recognized as family and my partner is not. If I'm not able to make any decisions due to my condition, again, my partner could be completely refused any contact with me or decision making in favor of some other "family" member who I might not even like or want making decisions for me. Thus, we need legal protections for such things.

Americans should have equal rights regardless of where they are in the United States. Thank you, 14th Amendment.



Aaaand you're immediately blind to the FACT that the ONLY reason you have ANY of these rights in ANY state is because of "state's rights".

I agree with you on every point, but you ASSUME that IF the fed is given supreme dictatorial power, it will ALWAYS do what YOU want.

It won't, and when it doesn't, you won't have the option of petitioning for redress at the STATE level, or moving to another state. You'll have to either bite the bullet, or leave the country.
 
2012-10-23 10:04:27 PM

Amos Quito: WorldCitizen: /BE careful what you wish for

Federal marriage issues:

1) Immigration. I can't sponsor my spouse, even if legally married in the US, for a green card. That requires the feds not a state by state thing.
2) Federal taxes. My employer allows same-sex partner benefits such as health insurance. However, the feds, unlike with straight married couples, tax those benefits as income increasing my tax burden way above a straight married couple.
3) Inheritance. Many of the same issues with taxation.
4) Military spouse benefits (or lack of) for same-sex partners.

And as far as who chooses who can visit whom in the hospital, it should be the patient. However, the laws now don't always recognize that. My asshole brother who I hate could override my partner and not allow my partner to visit me or make decisions for me (if I'm not able to do so) because he's recognized as family and my partner is not. If I'm not able to make any decisions due to my condition, again, my partner could be completely refused any contact with me or decision making in favor of some other "family" member who I might not even like or want making decisions for me. Thus, we need legal protections for such things.

Americans should have equal rights regardless of where they are in the United States. Thank you, 14th Amendment.


Aaaand you're immediately blind to the FACT that the ONLY reason you have ANY of these rights in ANY state is because of "state's rights".

I agree with you on every point, but you ASSUME that IF the fed is given supreme dictatorial power, it will ALWAYS do what YOU want.

It won't, and when it doesn't, you won't have the option of petitioning for redress at the STATE level, or moving to another state. You'll have to either bite the bullet, or leave the country.


I agree that it is good to let a state experiment with many things as long as it does not LIMIT a right otherwise provided to Americans outside of that state. Yes, it has been the more progressive states in the country which have moved the issue of equality forward in this case. Now, it's time for the Feds to step up and ensure equality for all Americans so that legally married Americans are treated the same across the federal level. We have the states to thank for pushing that up to the Feds as an issue. Now, it looks like after at the lower federal courts including now two appellate courts have overturned the section of DOMA prohibiting equal federal treatment for otherwise legally married Americans, it looks like the Supreme Court is going to take it up. One can then only hope they move in the same direction as their lower federal courts.

The same with racial segregation and laws against interracial marriage. It was NOT OK for some states to have legal segregation. The Feds finally did the right thing and ended segregation and passed Civil Rights legislation at the national level. Ultimately, states' rights should not be a license for states to discriminate against their own citizens or prohibit their citizens from rights that Americans outside their states otherwise have.

So yes, states' rights, but not states' rights to limit the rights of their own citizens that are otherwise guaranteed to the people in the US.
 
2012-10-23 10:13:29 PM
One of Mitt Romney's possible first actions if he were elected president would be to eliminate hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples

...why? How does that help anyone, anywhere?
 
2012-10-23 10:30:09 PM
To all the libtards out there, here's a full moon to howell at.

sciencebasedlife.files.wordpress.com

With all the BS that needs to be fixed, you really think he's going to spend a second on this. Libtard Logic -Yes, they are that stupid.
 
2012-10-23 10:31:11 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mitt's gonna have a busy first day...

8:00-Noon: Inauguration
Noon-12:15: Restrict civil rights for gay couples.
12:15 -12:30: Tax Cuts
12:30-1:15: Lunch
1:15-1:30 : Trade war with China
1:30-1:35: Repeal Obamacare
1:35-2:45: Approve Keystone Pipeline
2:45-3:00: Open all Federal lands for oil drilling.
3:00-4:30: Create 12 million new jobs
4:30-5:00: Tax Cuts
5:00-5:15: Call Ahmadinejad, ask if he has Prince Albert in the can.
5:15-5:30: "Reinstate" Work for Welfare requirements.
5:30-6:00: Meet with Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress
6:00-6:30: Bust Federal Unions
6:30-7:00: Issue executive orders reversing all of Obama's executive orders
7:00-8:00: Light Supper
8:00-8:30: Reinstate the Mexico City Policy
8:30-9:00: Secure borders and ask all illegals to self-deport.


i.imgur.com
Uh oh, Romneybot is . . . uh, broken.
 
2012-10-23 10:50:12 PM

Brick-House: To all the libtards out there, here's a full moon to howell at.


i.imgur.com

I love Freud.
 
2012-10-23 11:03:12 PM

dahmers love zombie: Brick-House: To all the libtards out there, here's a full moon to howell at.

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I love Freud.


Oh how Lovey...

www.wearysloth.com
 
2012-10-23 11:22:49 PM

Brick-House: With all the BS that needs to be fixed, you really think he's going to spend a second on this. Libtard Logic -Yes, they are that stupid.


Well, he signed a pledge to. Do you not think he follows through on his pledges?
 
2012-10-23 11:31:22 PM
Whatever he does on the first day, he'll just do the opposite on the 2nd day once a few opinion polls come out
 
2012-10-23 11:40:56 PM

Brick-House: To all the libtards out there, here's a full moon to howell at.

[sciencebasedlife.files.wordpress.com image 320x320]

With all the BS that needs to be fixed, you really think he's going to spend a second on this. Libtard Logic -Yes, they are that stupid.


Most of those things he won't be able to get through Congress, especially if the Democrats hold the Senate. This one, all he has to do is order someone to write up a memo and sign it.
 
2012-10-23 11:41:36 PM
Do the Koch brothers support this?

/Romney's just going to rubber stamp what they push through Congress anyway.
 
2012-10-23 11:49:59 PM

BravadoGT: Mmm.....like the smell of liberal desperation in the air! It smells like....victory.


It actually smells more like the skid marks in your pants.

Seriously, go back to Freepland and load up with more than third-rate dogshiat.
 
2012-10-23 11:49:59 PM
Eddie Izzard reference already? LOVE FARK
 
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