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(ABC)   The US Navy is just "two years away" from laser weapons like "they had in Star Trek," claims top admiral. No word where the bayonets will be mounted   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 128
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2012-10-23 08:17:00 PM
Yeah... Just as soon as they field the rail gun, right?

I know they are doing some cool stuff, but 2 years? That doesn't seem very realistic. The sea trials and stuff would take that long and that's after they finally build it.
 
2012-10-23 08:20:38 PM
Are they breech loaders or muzzle loaders?
 
2012-10-23 08:29:25 PM
We had better build more ships because the ocean isn't getting any smaller and China is investing heavily in lasers and anti-lasers.
 
2012-10-23 08:31:04 PM
Victory at Sea meets Laser Bowie.
 
2012-10-23 08:31:15 PM

NewportBarGuy: I know they are doing some cool stuff, but 2 years? That doesn't seem very realistic. The sea trials and stuff would take that long and that's after they finally build it.


johngonglewski.com
Air Force has done it already. Just a matter of putting it on a ship.
 
2012-10-23 08:35:10 PM

cretinbob: Air Force has done it already. Just a matter of putting it on a ship.


I haven't read Proceedings in a few years. Last I checked they were saying pretty much the same thing. I hope they get it right because the cost savings would be really great. Well, I think it will. I hope it will.

I'm on board for anything that makes us stronger, more affordable, and ready to respond to any threat. It's hard to get all of that. Especially the cost savings part. heh...

Then again. We probably need more horses and bayonets.
 
2012-10-23 08:45:34 PM
Lasers? Those won't even penetrate their navigational deflectors.
 
2012-10-23 09:23:46 PM
It's at the systems integration and test phase at the contractor so it could be 2 years away if a giant bucket of money is given to them. I'm sure though that it would have no effect against a steel hull or a really fast moving target so it will only be used in conjunction with preexisting CIWS.
 
2012-10-23 09:39:46 PM
Meaning, they have this now, two years until the next big thing.
 
2012-10-23 09:43:37 PM

Tr0mBoNe: I'm sure though that it would have no effect against a steel hull or a really fast moving target so it will only be used in conjunction with preexisting CIWS.


Then it seems like a giant waste of money if they are going to keep Phalanx. I support them bringing the project to technical completion so we can learn more, but if it's just going to complement the current system that works quite well, what's the point?
 
2012-10-23 09:44:10 PM

Tr0mBoNe: It's at the systems integration and test phase at the contractor so it could be 2 years away if a giant bucket of money is given to them. I'm sure though that it would have no effect against a steel hull or a really fast moving target so it will only be used in conjunction with preexisting CIWS.


click on links in articles

yes
 
2012-10-23 10:04:20 PM

Mentat: We had better build more ships because the ocean isn't getting any smaller and China is investing heavily in lasers and anti-lasers.


images.sodahead.com


Back at ya'! 


/hot
 
2012-10-23 10:58:38 PM

NewportBarGuy: Yeah... Just as soon as they field the rail gun, right?


I farking love Eraser.
 
2012-10-23 11:08:48 PM

FishyFred: I farking love Eraser.


If I could have one fantasy weapon, I'm not sure if it'd be the 'EM' gun from Eraser or the ZF1 from Fifth Element. Actually, I'll go with the ZF1.
 
2012-10-23 11:09:32 PM
No word where the bayonets will be mounted

On the business end of course.
 
2012-10-23 11:13:09 PM
No word where the bayonets will be mounted

Less than 24 hours and this one's already tired to death. I guess Obammster finally got that zinger in he so desperately wanted. Too bad Ambassador Stevens wasn't around to enjoy it.
 
2012-10-23 11:14:44 PM
mmwwhahaha, i'm finally getting my octopi with lasers!
 
2012-10-23 11:15:40 PM
i884.photobucket.com

on the end of the lasgun, where else?
 
2012-10-23 11:20:15 PM
If you just sharpen the bit in the middle of the emitter bell, and put the bell on a retractable spring thingy, you could make the early Trek laser rifle into a bayonet-aser:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-23 11:25:02 PM
I, for one, am looking forward to our Narwhal class submarines.
 
2012-10-23 11:25:47 PM
Gee, if they put directed energy weapons on a satellite, I wonder how they'd test them...

api.ning.com 

...nah - it's aliens.
 
2012-10-23 11:31:48 PM
Well these lasers are for warships, subby. So you should be asking if they still reinforce the prow like they did on old roman barges.

/The thought of an aircraft carrier Commander shouting "RAMMING SPEED!" does sound awesome...
 
2012-10-23 11:40:07 PM

Triumph: Gee, if they put directed energy weapons on a satellite, I wonder how they'd test them...

 

...nah - it's aliens.


It's actually art students with boards.

Nah, its military space lasers.
 
2012-10-23 11:44:25 PM
So, who's bringing the popcorn?
 
2012-10-23 11:46:34 PM
Welcome to 30 years ago.....

i291.photobucket.com

IT'S STAR WARS DAMMIT

/we start bombing in 5 minutes
 
2012-10-23 11:53:52 PM
"Top admirals" are usually old farts that will believe any and all bullsh*t weapons contractors are trying to sell them.
 
2012-10-23 11:55:35 PM
They didn't have lasers in Star Trek, Admiral.

/except in the pilot episode
 
2012-10-24 12:00:17 AM

Keyser_Soze_Death: No word where the bayonets will be mounted


Yeoman.
 
2012-10-24 12:02:03 AM
My stats teacher in college had worked on laser weapons for some defense contractor. He said they were mostly used to take down missiles and such. I asked specifically about weaponized lasers. That was almost 10 years ago.
 
2012-10-24 12:06:43 AM
The thing is, you can put whatever crazy sort of weaponry you want on a ship, its a nice big open platform with a nice big powerplant. Its my understanding however that given how we currently use our navy, long range ship to shore bombardment, laser weapons would be impractical as they require line of sight. Given modern satellite capabilities, id think even ship to ship engagement would take place over the horizon, making rail guns and anything that can fire parabolically the preferred weapon.


Mentat: We had better build more ships because the ocean isn't getting any smaller and China is investing heavily in lasers and anti-lasers.


Mirrors?
 
2012-10-24 12:10:09 AM
Just remember to keep enough room to hold the horses,
you never know when you'll have to do sea to land mobile attack.
 
2012-10-24 12:14:03 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: They didn't have lasers in Star Trek, Admiral.

/except in the pilot episode


This is the correct answer
 
2012-10-24 12:17:05 AM

Ghastly: Lasers? Those won't even penetrate their navigational deflectors.


I laughed
 
2012-10-24 12:27:41 AM

Tr0mBoNe: It's at the systems integration and test phase at the contractor so it could be 2 years away if a giant bucket of money is given to them.


Is that all? No sweat! We give giant buckets of money to defense contractors all the time!

Comon with the pew pew.
 
2012-10-24 12:30:15 AM

shotglasss: No word where the bayonets will be mounted

Less than 24 hours and this one's already tired to death. I guess Obammster finally got that zinger in he so desperately wanted. Too bad Ambassador Stevens wasn't around to enjoy it.


Wow, it really hurt your feelings to see Romney talked to like the adolescent he is, didn't it? I've never seen Obama's 'Parent Face' before, you know the one where you are explaining to your teenager that he can't spend the night at his girlfriend's house even though her mother thinks it's OK? Yeah, he had the 'I can't believe that I had to explain THIS to an adult.' look.
 
2012-10-24 12:32:12 AM

gas giant: "Top admirals" are usually old farts that will believe any and all bullsh*t weapons contractors are trying to sell them.


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Top. Admirals.
 
2012-10-24 12:33:56 AM

justtray: My stats teacher in college had worked on laser weapons for some defense contractor. He said they were mostly used to take down missiles and such. I asked specifically about weaponized lasers. That was almost 10 years ago.


That's all I've heard about, too. Ones for frying the guidance system on a missile, but not offensive ones. I'm really curious how you responsibly account for a light weapon that pretty much goes on forever... At least a bullet falls to earth, and a missile runs out of fuel if it misses. Admiral Jackapenny fires his ship based laser and misses, and we might set of an interstellar war... :-0

Seriously though, I wonder if this fits into the equation anymore at all? It WAS something they talked about back in the day, and I have seen demonstrations lof lasers that can be set up to only cut into a target block to a specific depth, but I'd be interested to see if they can tweak that when just shooting at a moving target, as opposed to those big blocks of plastic they were using on the show I saw.
 
2012-10-24 12:35:59 AM
No word where the bayonets will be mounted

They should combine them with the horses... They would be a kind of bad-ass unicorn. We could storm the beaches of Normandy with Bayoneticorns.
 
2012-10-24 12:38:51 AM
Hey Mr Admiral Dude - It's phasers, not lasers, ya big dummy.
 
2012-10-24 12:39:37 AM
Isn't there a problem with humidity at sea level?

And the issue with shooting lasers into space isn't really an issue, lasers are not infinitely columnated.They'll always diffuse over distance.
 
2012-10-24 12:47:15 AM
I was hoping it was photon torpedoes. At least they have on-board guidance making them useful beyond the horizon.
 
2012-10-24 12:51:21 AM

wildcardjack: Isn't there a problem with humidity at sea level?

And the issue with shooting lasers into space isn't really an issue, lasers are not infinitely columnated.They'll always diffuse over distance.


I dont' see this as a main armament for ships, and my reading supports the suggestion that it's actually meant for "Point Defense" operations, against small close-range targets such as small boats, anti-ship missiles, and potentially fighter-craft.

If we're to see a 'scifi' weaponry system, it would be railguns for shipkilling weaponry, but I don't see fighters being taken out of the equation anytime soon, leaving most of our navy in an antipiracy role, or defending the mobile airstrip aircraft carriers.

Shore Bombardment and long range fire support would be possible with a railgun (maybe), but I think that role may be phased out as both air doctrine/technology evolves, and we start to actually get out of the Dreadnought/Battleship Doctrine era, and redesign our navy around modern technology and actual needs.

Now if you excuse me, I need to laugh hysterically at the idea that our government and military will actually reform itself.
 
2012-10-24 12:52:16 AM

BolloxReader: I was hoping it was photon torpedoes. At least they have on-board guidance making them useful beyond the horizon.


We call those "Cruise Missiles" and "Armed Drones" :v
 
2012-10-24 12:55:24 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's actually art students with boards.

Nah, its military space lasers.


Yeah - when my crop suddenly has an elaborate design etched into it overnight, my first suspect is art students with boards, because they're extremely motivated, quiet as mice, highly secretive and well-organized all over the world.
 
2012-10-24 01:00:52 AM
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2012-10-24 01:08:52 AM
Two years? If you hire a bunch of scientists to start you can get laser pistols in a couple weeks Max.
 
2012-10-24 01:18:34 AM

Klom Dark: Hey Mr Admiral Dude - It's phasers, not lasers, ya big dummy.


Odds are he still believes in hokey religions
 
2012-10-24 01:27:24 AM
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2012-10-24 01:28:50 AM

shotglasss: No word where the bayonets will be mounted

Less than 24 hours and this one's already tired to death. I guess Obammster finally got that zinger in he so desperately wanted. Too bad Ambassador Stevens wasn't around to enjoy it.


If they'd given him a bayonet, he might be.
 
2012-10-24 01:30:56 AM

Thanks for the Meme-ries: Welcome to 30 years ago.....

[i291.photobucket.com image 300x395]

IT'S STAR WARS DAMMIT

/we start bombing in 5 minutes


Guess who is having the last laugh?
 
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