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(BBC)   During the three years of filming Star Trek, Shatner says he was unaware he was unpopular with some members of the cast   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 63
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2012-10-23 03:47:30 PM  
"No, there's no way. They all chipped in to give me this awesome prop and... hey, wait a minute."
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-23 04:43:46 PM  
It's amazing what you can miss when you just dont give a fark.
 
2012-10-23 04:45:08 PM  
www.behindthehype.com
 
2012-10-23 04:47:20 PM  
Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?
 
2012-10-23 04:54:40 PM  
www.the-tune.net
 
2012-10-23 05:00:02 PM  

DanZero: [www.the-tune.net image 640x471]


//thred
 
2012-10-23 05:19:46 PM  
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he paid so little attention to them that he noticed nothing. Seems like a very fun guy, but I'm not sure how great of a friend he would make.
 
2012-10-23 05:24:39 PM  

DanZero: [www.the-tune.net image 640x471]


Came in here for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-10-23 05:44:32 PM  
it took...him...so long...to...get...his words out...that...they gave up...before they...could...tell him... that he...was...an...asshole
 
2012-10-23 06:27:11 PM  
Still better than Picard.
 
2012-10-23 06:52:14 PM  
I guess that fact that none of them would talk to him while he was writing Star Trek Memories plumb evaded him
 
2012-10-23 07:30:11 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Still better than Picard.


0/10
 
2012-10-23 07:33:57 PM  
Link needs the "Video" tag.
 
2012-10-23 07:35:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?


As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally retarded.
 
2012-10-23 07:45:52 PM  
I always thought Sulu getting a captaincy over Starfleet wunderkind Chekov was because of Takei's hatred of the Shat, and was a demand he made to appear in that film.
 
2012-10-23 07:47:03 PM  
I hate him for being so awesome too...and Sulu for being so fabulous.
 
2012-10-23 07:51:29 PM  
Autoplay = bad.
 
2012-10-23 07:51:32 PM  
www.hostingbytes.us
 
2012-10-23 08:02:54 PM  
Nevermind them, Shatner, they suck and you ROCK!
 
2012-10-23 08:03:48 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Still better than Picard.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-23 08:24:49 PM  
Sabatash.
 
2012-10-23 08:28:57 PM  

WorldCitizen: It wouldn't surprise me at all if he paid so little attention to them that he noticed nothing. Seems like a very fun guy, but I'm not sure how great of a friend he would make.


Shat seems like the kind of guy that is a great person to be around, so long as there's something in it for him.
 
2012-10-23 08:37:42 PM  
If George Takei hates you, there's something deeply flawed with your personality.
 
2012-10-23 08:42:54 PM  

PumpkinCake: Tr0mBoNe: Still better than Picard.

0/10


I know, right?

Janeway is better than both or them, and Sisko too.
 
2012-10-23 08:50:21 PM  

jayhawk88: WorldCitizen: It wouldn't surprise me at all if he paid so little attention to them that he noticed nothing. Seems like a very fun guy, but I'm not sure how great of a friend he would make.

Shat seems like the kind of guy that is a great person to be around, so long as there's something in it for him.


He shows the same breed of horses that I used to (albiet at a lower/cheaper level) so I have seen him at some of the bigger shows over the years. I have heard several ugly stories about how he has treated people if he did not believe them to be worthy of his time. I lost all respect for him after one where he treated a groom badky after the trainer approached him and asked him in advance if it would be okay to introduce him to her because se was a huge fan. He treated her like dirt. Fark him...
 
2012-10-23 08:50:53 PM  

chewielouie: Janeway is better than both of them, and Sisko too.


You must be the target demographic for my network action series pitch, Grandma And The Hawk.
 
2012-10-23 08:54:00 PM  
Shatner. His belly girdled at 3rd Season.
 
2012-10-23 09:03:20 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: jayhawk88: WorldCitizen: It wouldn't surprise me at all if he paid so little attention to them that he noticed nothing. Seems like a very fun guy, but I'm not sure how great of a friend he would make.

Shat seems like the kind of guy that is a great person to be around, so long as there's something in it for him.

He shows the same breed of horses that I used to (albiet at a lower/cheaper level) so I have seen him at some of the bigger shows over the years. I have heard several ugly stories about how he has treated people if he did not believe them to be worthy of his time. I lost all respect for him after one where he treated a groom badky after the trainer approached him and asked him in advance if it would be okay to introduce him to her because se was a huge fan. He treated her like dirt. Fark him...


My understanding is that both Shat and Brent Spiner are dicks.
 
2012-10-23 09:11:27 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: My understanding is that both Shat and Brent Spiner are dicks.


In Brent's defense, he DOES have his very own batsh*t-crazy stalker chick to put up with.

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-10-23 09:15:44 PM  

FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally retarded.


thatsracist.gif
 
2012-10-23 09:23:41 PM  

LoneWolf343: FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally retarded.

thatsracist.gif


Man, I don't do the LOL thing often but I just really burst out over that one. Nice.
 
2012-10-23 09:37:54 PM  

LoneWolf343: FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally weetarded.

thatsracist.gif

ftfy
 
2012-10-23 10:05:26 PM  
It's not news, it's olds.
 
2012-10-23 10:06:16 PM  
Shatner always stresses the fact that was a difference in job status between the supporting actors on TOS and those in the casts of later Star Treks. Shatner was hired to be the star of the show. Only Nimoy and, later, Kelley were co-stars with their names in the opening titles. Those three were the entire regular cast, officially. Unlike the TNG actors who later played comparable parts, Doohan, Takei, Koenig, and Nichols were day players, in a lot of but nowhere close to all episodes. If you name your favorite episode there's a good chance one or more of them are not in it. It was only later, as the impressions they made in reruns ran together in fans' memories, that they became considered regular members of the cast and were billed as such in the movies, sort of a retroactive promotion.

Pointing this out doesn't excuse Shatner for being insensitive, it just shows that status, position, and function were how he defined who people were in his life then.
 
2012-10-23 10:42:35 PM  
Old news is old.

/Like about twenty years old. 
 
2012-10-23 10:53:16 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: LoneWolf343: FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally weetarded.

thatswacist.gif
ftfy


Fixed that even more for your both.
 
2012-10-23 11:28:21 PM  

Nem Wan: Shatner always stresses the fact that was a difference in job status between the supporting actors on TOS and those in the casts of later Star Treks. Shatner was hired to be the star of the show. Only Nimoy and, later, Kelley were co-stars with their names in the opening titles. Those three were the entire regular cast, officially. Unlike the TNG actors who later played comparable parts, Doohan, Takei, Koenig, and Nichols were day players, in a lot of but nowhere close to all episodes. If you name your favorite episode there's a good chance one or more of them are not in it. It was only later, as the impressions they made in reruns ran together in fans' memories, that they became considered regular members of the cast and were billed as such in the movies, sort of a retroactive promotion.

Pointing this out doesn't excuse Shatner for being insensitive, it just shows that status, position, and function were how he defined who people were in his life then.


Wasn't Kelley the one they gave the fat payday to in the last movie because he made dick the whole rest of the time?
 
2012-10-23 11:46:17 PM  
This just in: self-absorbed people are rarely receptive to how others perceive them. More at 11.
 
2012-10-23 11:50:09 PM  

Nem Wan: Shatner always stresses the fact that was a difference in job status between the supporting actors on TOS and those in the casts of later Star Treks. Shatner was hired to be the star of the show. Only Nimoy and, later, Kelley were co-stars with their names in the opening titles. Those three were the entire regular cast, officially. Unlike the TNG actors who later played comparable parts, Doohan, Takei, Koenig, and Nichols were day players, in a lot of but nowhere close to all episodes. If you name your favorite episode there's a good chance one or more of them are not in it. It was only later, as the impressions they made in reruns ran together in fans' memories, that they became considered regular members of the cast and were billed as such in the movies, sort of a retroactive promotion.

Pointing this out doesn't excuse Shatner for being insensitive, it just shows that status, position, and function were how he defined who people were in his life then.


This is very true. When Takei got married and publicly stated he was purposely not inviting Shatner, Shatner was like, "Wtf? He doesn't want to invite me, fine. I barely know the guy. He would show up for a couple of days for episodes he was in while I was there all week. We even had very little interaction in the movies. I have no idea what the guy's problem is". They weren't an ensemble cast like most series today. KirSpoCoy is the main character on TOS and the rest are supporting players (and Koenig didn't even come into the picture until Season 2). Often, the scripts would be retooled last minute, replacing characters in different scenes. A lot of times, Chekov and Sulu were interchangeable to the writers, showing how much they thought of the characters/actors.

But there are a lot of accounts that say Shatner was jealous of Nimoy's popularity. Nimoy got more fan mail, more PR requests, and better interview questions. Shatner apparently couldn't accept this and did a lot of dickish things to reassert his authority as "the star of the show". I'm sure he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in the process.
 
2012-10-23 11:58:19 PM  

LoneWolf343: FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally retarded.


wat's wacist!
 
2012-10-24 12:26:49 AM  
I don't know why he is so clueless about his fellow cast members. He was constantly changing scripts by taking away his fellow actors lines, while giving them to himself.
That pisses off even the most modest of actors.

/Still love the guy, even though he is a bit self absorbed.
 
2012-10-24 12:33:04 AM  

FunkOut: FirstNationalBastard: Well, you can;'t blame him for being a dick. I mean, would you rather have seen a scene with Sulu and Chekov, or 5 more minutes of Kirk awesomeness?

As a small child, I thought Sulu was the cool guy and Chekov was functionally retarded.


Well I guess this is appropriate then
 
2012-10-24 01:21:58 AM  
Denny Crane
 
2012-10-24 02:39:19 AM  
Some?
 
2012-10-24 03:33:19 AM  

bhcompy: Nem Wan: Shatner always stresses the fact that was a difference in job status between the supporting actors on TOS and those in the casts of later Star Treks. Shatner was hired to be the star of the show. Only Nimoy and, later, Kelley were co-stars with their names in the opening titles. Those three were the entire regular cast, officially. Unlike the TNG actors who later played comparable parts, Doohan, Takei, Koenig, and Nichols were day players, in a lot of but nowhere close to all episodes. If you name your favorite episode there's a good chance one or more of them are not in it. It was only later, as the impressions they made in reruns ran together in fans' memories, that they became considered regular members of the cast and were billed as such in the movies, sort of a retroactive promotion.

Pointing this out doesn't excuse Shatner for being insensitive, it just shows that status, position, and function were how he defined who people were in his life then.

Wasn't Kelley the one they gave the fat payday to in the last movie because he made dick the whole rest of the time?


According to Wiki...

By 1978 he was earning up to $50,000 ($178,000 today) annually from appearances at Star Trek conventions attended by Trekkies. Like other Star Trek actors Kelley received little of the enormous profits that the franchise generated for Paramount, until Nimoy, as executive producer, helped arrange for Kelley to be paid $1 million for Star Trek VI (1991) which would eventually be his final live action film appearance.

Then again poor Walter...
 
2012-10-24 04:31:39 AM  
I met all of those guys during the first few Star Trek conventions (went to the first one in NYC in the mid 1970s) Shatner wanted nothing to do with us, no autographs, nothing. Nimoy was swamped and had to move quickly. Kelly was a bit bemused by the whole thing. Majel Barrett was all over us. She was just like the character Sigourney Weaver played in "Galaxy Quest". She knew the fans were her bread and butter. Koenig was a bit retiring, but pleasant. Takei and Nichols were both very accessible and warm. They couldn't get enough of the fans. Doohan liked to get pleasantly tiddly with everyone in the bar (so I heard from the over 18 crowd) The Great Bird was a nice fellow, as well. I recall he had a warm handshake. DC Fontana was wound up tight. Their costume guy and makeup artist were nice folks.

So, that's my note from the peanut gallery.

I think the Shat really found his niche as a comic actor in his old age, but jeez, the guy's got an ego the size of Florida.
 
2012-10-24 04:49:11 AM  

Contents Under Pressure: I think the Shat really found his niche as a comic actor in his old age, but jeez, the guy's got an ego the size of Florida Quebec.


FTFM

He IS Canadian, eh.
 
2012-10-24 05:29:39 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Still better than Picard.


picardfacepalm.com
 
2012-10-24 06:44:52 AM  
Dumb show. Why is anyone still talking about it?
 
2012-10-24 08:14:26 AM  

I Like Bread: This just in: self-absorbed people are rarely receptive to how others perceive them. More at 11.


I think he's become somewhat less self-absorbed in recent years, at least in his public persona. He
may still be an inconsiderate pig in private, and he is the kind of actor who cares about his line count,
but maybe he's gotten a smattering of wisdom in his dotage.
 
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