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2012-10-23 05:39:45 PM

rickythepenguin: then barely beat a bad Cowboy team


WHATCHOOSAY!?


Broktun: Looks like STL, CLE, and DET are all some sort of plush animals.

Teddy bears and the such. Maybe a cat


STL has been covered. CLE is a bulldog puppy. DET is a blue Hello Kitty. And IND is a My Little Pony (original series). Oh and SEA is Scuttle from The Little Mermaid.
 
2012-10-23 05:40:20 PM

Di Atribe: rickythepenguin: then barely beat a bad Cowboy team

WHATCHOOSAY!?


Broktun: Looks like STL, CLE, and DET are all some sort of plush animals.

Teddy bears and the such. Maybe a cat

STL has been covered. CLE is a bulldog puppy. DET is a blue Hello Kitty. And IND is a My Little Pony (original series). Oh and SEA is Scuttle from The Little Mermaid.


And the Giants are Manningface!
 
2012-10-23 05:41:24 PM

Treygreen13: And the Giants are Manningface!


YES! The first to get a lol-go!
 
2012-10-23 05:43:02 PM
The Lions suck.

But the QUALITY of suck is completely different than the way they used to suck. Now they have some very good players, playing very good football. But, as a team, they can't get it together.

Major improvement (if you look at the last decade or so of Lions play).
 
2012-10-23 05:45:23 PM

JohnAnnArbor: The Lions suck.

But the QUALITY of suck is completely different than the way they used to suck. Now they have some very good players, playing very good football. But, as a team, they can't get it together.

Major improvement (if you look at the last decade or so of Lions play).


The defense last night was awesome. Made even more impressive by the fact that they had absolutely zero help from their offense and special teams.
 
2012-10-23 05:46:06 PM

Di Atribe: WHATCHOOSAY!?



eHHH....OK.......i guess "bad" may be an overstatement but they certainly aren't good. i think we're in the same boat, love. 8-9 wins and the highly coveted "drafting #13 overall" position.
 
2012-10-23 05:47:48 PM
At some point, the Lions will show up and play more than 1 quarter. Some day, and then they may actually be worth a shiat again. That is, of course, providing they don't just try to ride Megatron the way they did Barry Sanders.

/relurk
 
2012-10-23 05:49:47 PM

Zafler: At some point, the Lions will show up and play more than 1 quarter. Some day, and then they may actually be worth a shiat again. That is, of course, providing they don't just try to ride Megatron the way they did Barry Sanders.

/relurk


im still waiting for someone to tap stafford on the shoulder and have him break into a million peices...

/not that he has done much this year while healthy
 
2012-10-23 05:50:42 PM

rickythepenguin: eHHH....OK.......i guess "bad" may be an overstatement but they certainly aren't good. i think we're in the same boat, love. 8-9 wins and the highly coveted "drafting #13 overall" position.


Hm. Well I think maybe a team should actually have a losing record to be considered "bad." I mean, how many teams would you say were good? I might come up with 3 or 4. But if you call every team at 0.500 or worse bad, you're talking about 21 teams. There's math involved, but I think that's more than half. I just think maybe we should be equally stingy with those two labels.
 
2012-10-23 05:54:31 PM

thecpt: The Bears might be good but their schedule has been fairly laughable aside from Dallas. Which happened to be the night when Romo and his receivers were playing hot potato.

Once the Bears hit week 10 it looks like murderer's row.


I agree - they have only played one team with a winning record so far and lost that game (GB). Their last 8 games have 7 teams with winning records (HOU, SF, MINx2, SEA, GB, ARI) and DET again. I'm hoping they can get to 8-1 before that stretch and essentially clinch a playoff spot.
 
2012-10-23 05:56:29 PM
Not sure if anyone saw this one, but Norv responded to the cheating allegations:

San Diego Chargers Coach Norv Turner denied Monday that any members of the team had used a sticky substance and said that the NFL is looking into the Chargers' use of a towel, not a substance.

"Nobody from the San Diego Chargers used Stickum in the game on Monday night against the Denver Broncos," Turner said Monday. "Nobody in this organization has used Stickum in any game. The questions that have been asked by the league involve a towel that has been used by this organization for over 10 years.


Link

I can't believe he's blaming it on such a loyal towel.
 
2012-10-23 05:58:55 PM

davidphogan: Not sure if anyone saw this one, but Norv responded to the cheating allegations:

San Diego Chargers Coach Norv Turner denied Monday that any members of the team had used a sticky substance and said that the NFL is looking into the Chargers' use of a towel, not a substance.

"Nobody from the San Diego Chargers used Stickum in the game on Monday night against the Denver Broncos," Turner said Monday. "Nobody in this organization has used Stickum in any game. The questions that have been asked by the league involve a towel that has been used by this organization for over 10 years.

Link

I can't believe he's blaming it on such a loyal towel.


the allegations if true, will prove it to be one

www.thetoque.com


terrible towel.


/YEAAAAAAAHHH!!
 
2012-10-23 06:01:16 PM

GQueue: I'd like to thank Cutler for coming back to play the second half and the Cutler/Marshall combo for doing just enough that I won my fantasy matchup due to Harbaugh's declined safety.


I started the night down by 12, I had Marshall and my opponent had Forte (and had Chris Johnson, damn his eyes). I ended up losing the week by 4 damn points. All I needed were two more Marshall carries and two less Forte carries and I could have made it...
 
2012-10-23 06:03:18 PM

JosephFinn: GQueue: I'd like to thank Cutler for coming back to play the second half and the Cutler/Marshall combo for doing just enough that I won my fantasy matchup due to Harbaugh's declined safety.

I started the night down by 12, I had Marshall and my opponent had Forte (and had Chris Johnson, damn his eyes). I ended up losing the week by 4 damn points. All I needed were two more Marshall carries and two less Forte carries and I could have made it...


I lost by 9 points thanks to these wonderful players:

Larry Fitzgerald: 2 points
Dez Bryant: 1 point
Maurice Jones-Drew: 0 points
 
2012-10-23 06:07:07 PM
Steelers/Redskins on Sunday. Neither team has a defense. Bet the over.

Also if RG3 gets 32 yards rushing, him and Morris will become the first rookies team mates in NFL history to both hit the 500 yards on the ground.
 
2012-10-23 06:08:26 PM
So... beat the 5th ranked team by 30 and drop below the team that beat the 12th ranked team on a last-second 77-yard bomb.

Got it.
 
2012-10-23 06:10:42 PM
Useless facts:

Change from Week 1 to this week :
One 15 point drop: Chiefs
One 21 point jump: Vikings

Two teams ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE (back at their Week 1 rankings): 49ers, Ravens

Number of times rankings have changed:
15 teams have changed every week
8 teams have changed all but once
1 team has only moved twice (Browns)

Difference between high rank & low rank:
Lowest fluctuation: Browns with 2
Highest fluctuation: Vikings with 22
Average fluctuation: 9.063

Overall fluctuation travel:
Smallest: Browns with 3
Highest: Seahawks with 39 and still no one gives them credit for anything :(

Teams hitting their highest rank this week: Giants, Bears, & Dolphins

Teams hitting their lowest rank this week: Chargers, Bengals, Panthers, & Buccaneers

Seven teams did not change rank: Eagles, Falcons, Lions, Broncos Chiefs, Jaguars, & Browns

Five teams have held the #1 spot 

And graphs rule. And so does football. And the Sports Tab. YEAH
 
2012-10-23 06:12:42 PM
Damn you Jets. I would have been perfect in selecting games, but you just had to lose to the Patriots didn't you? I figured "hey, the Jets are due. They normally get that one upset vs. the Pats a year. This is the best time for it to happen" and they flubbed it.
 
mjg
2012-10-23 06:13:40 PM
I'm happy with my Vikings performance this year.

Cuz i had
www.oilogosphere.com
 
2012-10-23 06:30:26 PM
Thanks, loved the thread. I had a very Gore-y performance on the trivia questions.
 
2012-10-23 06:32:33 PM

Di Atribe: rickythepenguin:***snip***
Hm. Well I think maybe a team should actually have a losing record to be considered "bad." I mean, how many teams would you say were good? I might come up with 3 or 4. But if you call every team at 0.500 or worse bad, you're talking about 21 teams. There's math involved, but I think that's more than half. I just think maybe we should be equally stingy with those two labels.


When the Trollhawks get into the playoffs at 7-9 and the the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl twice, deciding who is really good and who is really bad is tough. I don't think the Cowboys or Lions are bad, but they are not playing as well as their talent would suggest, conversely, I am assuming the Vikes will fall flat on their faces soon.


mjg: I'm happy with my Vikings performance this year.

Cuz i had
[www.oilogosphere.com image 400x300]


As a Packers fan, my expectations of the Vikings can never be lowered. i always assume they will be the worst team in football, and they do their best to live up (down?) to those expectations.
 
2012-10-23 06:44:39 PM
On treys trivia I sucked worst of all FARK guessers I think. I only got Andy Dalton Frank Gore Sea Trolls and Cheatriots right.
 
2012-10-23 06:46:52 PM
www.nakoma1.com
"There's no defense in the league right now that makes life more consistently miserable for its opponents."

Strictly Representin, Bear up to 5.
 
2012-10-23 06:47:53 PM

davidphogan: "Nobody from the San Diego Chargers used Stickum in the game on Monday night against the Denver Broncos," Turner said Monday. "Nobody in this organization has used Stickum in any game. The questions that have been asked by the league involve a towel that has been used by this organization for over 10 years.


That towel had a pre-existing stickum condition from 10 years back?
 
2012-10-23 06:55:13 PM
No Palmer mention in the Jake?
 
2012-10-23 06:59:34 PM

hammer85: No Palmer mention in the Jake?


He won, he got mentioned but not by name.
 
2012-10-23 07:04:55 PM

Di Atribe: I mean, how many teams would you say were good? I might come up with 3 or 4. But if you call every team at 0.500 or worse bad, you're talking about 21 teams.


no, it isn't strictly record based. it is the eyeball test.

Treygreen13: Larry Fitzgerald: 2 points


it is no secret he (like many players) has aspirations of Canton. Unfortunately, the combination of a bad QB sitch, a dreadful O-Line sitch, and constantly being doubled is going to hurt his numbers, spesh in a FF era where so many voters will be fixated on the raw data: how many catches, how many TDs. the test oft cited for HOF in any sport is, "how well did he match up to his contemporaries?"

I guess the thing I'll say in Fitzy's defense is, how many other WRs consistently, on damn near every route, get doubled? by way of a poor comparison, remember the season Bonds' HR numbers declined because he got so many INT BBs? that's arguably what is happening to Fitzy. And it is a shame.

just a shame we don't have a competent #2 (cough cough, Anquan Boldin, all is forgiven) to help strecth the field, as the cliche goes.
 
2012-10-23 07:10:48 PM

mikaloyd: davidphogan: "Nobody from the San Diego Chargers used Stickum in the game on Monday night against the Denver Broncos," Turner said Monday. "Nobody in this organization has used Stickum in any game. The questions that have been asked by the league involve a towel that has been used by this organization for over 10 years.

That towel had a pre-existing stickum condition from 10 years back?


On the plus side Goodell would probably suspend Norv for a year, AJ for half a year, and take away a fourth round pick for that. As a Chargers, fan, other than the draft pick those probably would be good moves.
 
2012-10-23 07:21:56 PM

roc6783: I am assuming the Vikes will fall flat on their faces soon.


Even us Vikings fans are. If I look at the remaining schedule, I'm expecting no more than 4 more wins this season. Bucs and Lions at home, 1 of the 4 Bears/Packers games, and 1 of the 3 Seahawks, Rams, Texans away games.

I really don't see any more than those 4. 5 if we split evenly with the Bears and Packers, which I don't anticipate. Anything more than that would be grossly over-performing. And totally fine.
 
2012-10-23 07:25:24 PM

JosephFinn: GQueue: I'd like to thank Cutler for coming back to play the second half and the Cutler/Marshall combo for doing just enough that I won my fantasy matchup due to Harbaugh's declined safety.

I started the night down by 12, I had Marshall and my opponent had Forte (and had Chris Johnson, damn his eyes). I ended up losing the week by 4 damn points. All I needed were two more Marshall carries and two less Forte carries and I could have made it...


I had Stafford and Megatron vs. Hanson and CHI defense and I was down 7 going in. Based on our league's scoring, the two plays where Tillman broke up the Stafford-Johnson TD pass and then recovered a fumble on the next play ended up being a 19.5 pt. swing the wrong way. If Tillman doesn't break that pass up, I win. As it turned out, I lost by 10.
 
2012-10-23 07:29:02 PM

seumasokelly: JosephFinn: GQueue: I'd like to thank Cutler for coming back to play the second half and the Cutler/Marshall combo for doing just enough that I won my fantasy matchup due to Harbaugh's declined safety.

I started the night down by 12, I had Marshall and my opponent had Forte (and had Chris Johnson, damn his eyes). I ended up losing the week by 4 damn points. All I needed were two more Marshall carries and two less Forte carries and I could have made it...

I had Stafford and Megatron vs. Hanson and CHI defense and I was down 7 going in. Based on our league's scoring, the two plays where Tillman broke up the Stafford-Johnson TD pass and then recovered a fumble on the next play ended up being a 19.5 pt. swing the wrong way. If Tillman doesn't break that pass up, I win. As it turned out, I lost by 10.


Sorry, Tillman didn't recover the fumble, but CHI D did which meant 2 points against me. After having 12.5 snatched from me by the pass defense.
 
2012-10-23 07:35:48 PM

rickythepenguin: it is no secret he (like many players) has aspirations of Canton. Unfortunately, the combination of a bad QB sitch, a dreadful O-Line sitch, and constantly being doubled is going to hurt his numbers, spesh in a FF era where so many voters will be fixated on the raw data: how many catches, how many TDs. the test oft cited for HOF in any sport is, "how well did he match up to his contemporaries?"


Fitzgerald is the second-fastest WR to accumulate 10,000 yards.
 
2012-10-23 07:36:44 PM
Pittsburgh is ranked too high. They are having a crappy season and it's going to get worse before it gets better. That defense is the worst I've seen since the mid 80's...

/They beat the Bengals...That's a gimmie most of the time.
 
2012-10-23 07:47:56 PM

robsul82: Friends...


You need the drink more than I do, bro. :-(

i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-23 08:01:00 PM

roc6783: Di Atribe: roc6783: What is the STL logo?

Lambchop. :)

***snip***

Wicked awesome.

Not sure if anyone that has 'shop skillz would be willing to extract Rodgers from the pic below and give it to Di for the GB logo on the graph, but I would appreciate it.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x327]


Aw, why? Aaron's photobombing is legendary!

Anyhow, on one hand, I'd love to see the Pack ranked higher, given the asswhuppin' they laid in the last two weeks.

Then, I remember the previous 5 weeks, and I'm OK with where they are now.

Talk to me in December about Power Rankings :P
 
2012-10-23 08:14:43 PM

Treygreen13: Bunny Deville: Yay graf!

Bravo, Robsul82, for the magnificent Jake.

And keep up the trivia, TreyGreen, that was fun.

Thanks. I'll try to keep it going. May not be 15 questions every week but I'll try to keep it going.


It was nice. I'd say even 3 questions a week would be cool; maybe even post the answers a little later in the thread.
 
2012-10-23 08:24:06 PM

Di Atribe: Misplaced yat: The Chargers and the Cowboys seem to be performing an elaborate dance.

Yeah. I've been noticing a lot of similarities beyond devastatingly handsome quarterbacks.


Give us a kiss?
cdn.ksk.uproxx.com

Feels left out; slowly walks away:
cdn.ksk.uproxx.com

WHO ASKS BEFORE KISSING?
cdn.ksk.uproxx.com
 
2012-10-23 08:26:24 PM
Loved the trivia, and did surprisingly well, as the hints gave me 5 of the answers, and I knew my Skins one already
 
2012-10-23 08:27:45 PM

robsul82: Friends,


Yeah, he deserves it. Good job rob but lowest rank in memory? Wow.
 
2012-10-23 08:28:07 PM

skrame: Di Atribe: Misplaced yat: The Chargers and the Cowboys seem to be performing an elaborate dance.

Yeah. I've been noticing a lot of similarities beyond devastatingly handsome quarterbacks.

Give us a kiss?
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 366x334]

Feels left out; slowly walks away:
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 335x436]

WHO ASKS BEFORE KISSING?
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 384x410]


Wow.

...


Just....wow.
 
2012-10-23 08:30:05 PM

Di Atribe: Also, graph 2 4 u


Is Indy a pony and who's Seattle?
 
2012-10-23 08:35:20 PM

xaks: skrame: Di Atribe: Misplaced yat: The Chargers and the Cowboys seem to be performing an elaborate dance.

Yeah. I've been noticing a lot of similarities beyond devastatingly handsome quarterbacks.

Give us a kiss?
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 366x334]

Feels left out; slowly walks away:
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 335x436]

WHO ASKS BEFORE KISSING?
[cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 384x410]

Wow.

...


Just....wow.


I have to find the Al Michaels/Chris Collinsworth moutheyes pics that were made by some Farker.
 
2012-10-23 08:56:28 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to recognize Cutler's accomplishment last night. No, he didn't get the Jake, but he did somehow manage to not make my opponent win in Fantasy Football despite only needing like 22 points IIRC. After the stoning Wallace gave me, I thought I was totally dead in the water.

Oh well. Maybe between now & next week Wallace'll get his head out of his ass and learn to catch a motherfarking ball. Lord knows he's not smart enough to know why he did t, but maybe we'll luck out and he'll figure out wtf he did wrong.
 
2012-10-23 09:04:46 PM

rickythepenguin: just a shame we don't have a competent #2 (cough cough, Anquan Boldin, all is forgiven) to help strecth the field, as the cliche goes.


Worst decision they could have made (besides not rebuilding Kurt Warner -ala Barry in Archer- so he could sling TDs for Jesus). Quan should have retired a Cardinal. I'm surprised they are going to let Adrian Wilson do this. Also, why isn't Larry Centers in the ring of fame?
 
2012-10-23 09:11:28 PM

Di Atribe: Useless facts:

Change from Week 1 to this week :
One 15 point drop: Chiefs
One 21 point jump: Vikings

Two teams ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE (back at their Week 1 rankings): 49ers, Ravens

Number of times rankings have changed:
15 teams have changed every week
8 teams have changed all but once
1 team has only moved twice (Browns)

Difference between high rank & low rank:
Lowest fluctuation: Browns with 2
Highest fluctuation: Vikings with 22
Average fluctuation: 9.063

Overall fluctuation travel:
Smallest: Browns with 3
Highest: Seahawks with 39 and still no one gives them credit for anything :(

Teams hitting their highest rank this week: Giants, Bears, & Dolphins

Teams hitting their lowest rank this week: Chargers, Bengals, Panthers, & Buccaneers

Seven teams did not change rank: Eagles, Falcons, Lions, Broncos Chiefs, Jaguars, & Browns

Five teams have held the #1 spot 

And graphs rule. And so does football. And the Sports Tab. YEAH


F*ck yeah. Has anyone else traveled more than 31 spots overall? We're going to do the equivalent of going from top to bottom back to top of the league!
 
2012-10-23 09:14:38 PM

SkittlesAreYum: rickythepenguin: it is no secret he (like many players) has aspirations of Canton. Unfortunately, the combination of a bad QB sitch, a dreadful O-Line sitch, and constantly being doubled is going to hurt his numbers, spesh in a FF era where so many voters will be fixated on the raw data: how many catches, how many TDs. the test oft cited for HOF in any sport is, "how well did he match up to his contemporaries?"

Fitzgerald is the second-fastest WR to accumulate 10,000 yards.



yeah, and look up his last five full seasons (or, so far, plus five, meaning 2007, knowing that 2009 was Kurt's last year):


Catches / TDs
2007: 100, 10
2008: 96, 12
2009: 97, 13
2010: 90, 6
2011: 80, 8

2012: 40, 3 thru 7 games. what's that on pace for?

shame that his declining numbers are due to factors beyond his control (QB, O line) and a factor he has limited control (whether to double team). and again, when he retires, the narrative will be ZOMG HIS NUMBERS DECLINED by those who -- the inverse corollary of Revis Island -- demands doubles constantly, thereby freeing up a second WR. If Revis Island could dictate an offensive gameplan by taking away half the field, wehre's Fitzy island, who dictates a 9 man defense?
 
2012-10-23 09:25:34 PM

rickythepenguin: 2012: 40, 3 thru 7 games. what's that on pace for?


91.4 catches and 6.86 TDs. Close to his '10 figures.
 
2012-10-23 09:26:21 PM
mimg.ugo.com
 
2012-10-23 09:36:25 PM

JohnAnnArbor: The Lions suck.

But the QUALITY of suck is completely different than the way they used to suck. Now they have some very good players, playing very good football. But, as a team, they can't get it together.

Major improvement (if you look at the last decade or so of Lions play).


That's like the Marvin Lewis Bengals versus the Failucopia of Bengals from 1990-2003.

Players on Marvin Lewis teams
Carson Palmer, Justin Smith, Houshmanzadeh, Ochocinco, TO, Jonathan Joseph, Benson, Andy Dalton, AJ Green, Gresham, Peko, Geno Atkins, Pacman Jones
 
2012-10-23 09:56:30 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: Oh good, the second lowest SOV in the league. 3-13 is definitely not out of the question.


I was hoping the Bengals would be 5-2 at this point, but I was predicting 4-3. Figured they'd lose to the Browns because division rivals rarely have long winning streaks over each other. The Dolphins loss was surprisingly bad. Glad I was in Disney World that weekend.

However the Bengals, being mediocre, always manage to steal a win from someone to make up for a doofus loss.
Chiefs & Raiders are wins.
Cowboys & Eagles are very winnable.
I expect the Broncos or Giants to be WTF wins.
Also the Ravens may still be able to give a 'rest game' win in week 17.

7-9
 
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