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(ESPN)   Dwight Howard: "Why haven't I won the Defensive Player of the Year award? Nobody can defend things better than me, seriously"   (espn.go.com ) divider line
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2012-10-23 12:47:38 PM  
Please STFU.
 
2012-10-23 12:47:41 PM  
Shut up and play, Dwight. Seriously.
 
2012-10-23 12:49:39 PM  
If Dwight Howard made Orlando #1 defense in the league with Turkoglu and R. Lewis playing "defense" on the perimeter there's no reason to think that he can't elevate the Lakers' defense. Kobe shouldn't be in the NBA defensive teams as he's old but he can still defend for a quarter or so if needed be and Ron Artest can still defend better than either Turkoglu or R. Lewis combined.
 
2012-10-23 12:53:09 PM  
a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.
 
2012-10-23 12:53:40 PM  
It seems like Dwight is playing NBA 2k13 and purposely picking the option that always makes him sound like a self centered jackass.
 
2012-10-23 12:53:54 PM  
Regular season awards should mean nothing to him at this point in his career. It proves that he still doesnt get it. Winning the defensive player of the year is a goal? Great. Shut up and win it on your way to a title.

This is the same as Boozer's "we had the best regular season record" comment after last year's playoff loss.

Maddening.
 
2012-10-23 12:57:12 PM  
With yet another ridiculous trade going the Lakers way and this clown shooting his mouth off, I wonder if I'll be able to stand the NBA this year.

No, you dope, no you don't deserve the DPOY.

/fun fact: not a single member of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs won the award, not Bruce Bowen, not Tim Duncan. Not. Once.
 
2012-10-23 01:00:10 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fun fact: not a single member of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs won the award, not Bruce Bowen, not Tim Duncan. Not. Once.


Probably because they were better team defenders than individual defenders. And Bowen was mostly just a dirty sh*theel. Easy to play D when you're intentionally injuring guys.
 
2012-10-23 01:01:30 PM  

IAmRight: Probably because they were better team defenders than individual defenders


That is what the NBA is all about and represents the hardest transition from the college to NBA game.
 
2012-10-23 01:19:00 PM  
Start by defending the way you worked the system and screwed over your team.
 
2012-10-23 01:22:41 PM  
Can I make a joke about "defendant" here?
 
2012-10-23 01:34:57 PM  
Probably because despite being given 15 fouls a game and the ability to stay in the lane as long as you want, you still were not as good of a defender as Tyson Chandler. Now STFU.
 
2012-10-23 01:43:59 PM  

IAmRight: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fun fact: not a single member of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs won the award, not Bruce Bowen, not Tim Duncan. Not. Once.

Probably because they were better team defenders than individual defenders. And Bowen was mostly just a dirty sh*theel. Easy to play D when you're intentionally injuring guys.


I could have probably written that response for you, but it's kind of a stupid one, leaving the knee-jerk Bowen stuff aside. Ben Wallace won it four times, despite being on a 'team defense' team all those years.
 
2012-10-23 01:44:14 PM  

IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.


isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.
 
2012-10-23 01:47:16 PM  

monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.


Goes both ways in the NBA.
 
2012-10-23 01:48:22 PM  

monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.


Defensive 3 second
 
2012-10-23 01:49:13 PM  

Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.


i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?
 
2012-10-23 01:53:15 PM  
"Being defensive" and "Being Defensive Player of the Year" are not the same thing, Dwight.
 
2012-10-23 01:59:39 PM  

monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?


You can play zone in the NBA now so illegal defense and defensive three seconds are the same thing now.
 
2012-10-23 02:01:46 PM  

monkwich: i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?


Every once in a while, just to remind people that it exists. Generally they start calling Howard for it once he starts getting up to 8 consecutive seconds in there. Then he actually leaves the lane for the next few possessions and gradually starts spending more time camping out in there.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Ben Wallace won it four times, despite being on a 'team defense' team all those years.


No one else on those Detroit teams was known as a top-tier defender. DPoY is basically a combination of "who has the most blocks per game," "have they won a DPoY title before?" and "how good is their team?"

While the Spurs had a good team, Duncan didn't block enough shots to be considered, and non-centers aren't allowed to be considered good defenders by DPoY standards.
 
2012-10-23 02:02:13 PM  

monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?


Zone defense is now allowed in the NBA.

It'll be interesting to see if the NBA is actually going to put out a better product this season. Aside from the flop fining that will (hopefully) go on, the NBA has also put in a rule against the Reggie Miller legkick (for you college fans, the Duke legkick as Scheyer and Redick used it extensively during their days at Duke). As always with the NBA, it will really depend on how these rules are enforced, and history does not give me a lot of confidence in that.

Finally, thanks to Griffin, Paul, and Howard, I have to say fark both LA teams. It sucks to have to root against Hill, Nash, and Gasol, but that's how it is.
 
2012-10-23 02:02:57 PM  

monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?


No, thank God. What a bizarre rule that was. Watching old games from the 90s and you can no longer make sense of it.
 
2012-10-23 02:04:50 PM  
T-Rob says STFU and sit down

t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-23 02:06:32 PM  

Doogled: Reggie Miller legkick


Wasnt World B. Free the first player to master the move?
 
2012-10-23 02:08:45 PM  

IAmRight: monkwich: i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?

Every once in a while, just to remind people that it exists. Generally they start calling Howard for it once he starts getting up to 8 consecutive seconds in there. Then he actually leaves the lane for the next few possessions and gradually starts spending more time camping out in there.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Ben Wallace won it four times, despite being on a 'team defense' team all those years.

No one else on those Detroit teams was known as a top-tier defender. DPoY is basically a combination of "who has the most blocks per game," "have they won a DPoY title before?" and "how good is their team?"

While the Spurs had a good team, Duncan didn't block enough shots to be considered, and non-centers aren't allowed to be considered good defenders by DPoY standards.


Tayshaun Prince wasn't considered a good defender? Seriously?

'Getting blocked shots' shouldn't be the guiding metric for winning the DPOY. It clearly is, which is moronic. It's why someone like Marcus Camby won a DPOY although his positional defense was often atrocious. Besides, Duncan's rebounding/block numbers weren't terribly different than Wallace's for many of those years, despite not taking time off on the offensive end.

Basically, Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan each deserved one of Ben Wallace's DPOYs. Two of the great, signature defenders of the era and the dumbass media just mailed it in. A travesty.
 
2012-10-23 02:09:58 PM  
Blocking shots is a very small part of playing defense. Most good coaches don't even encourage you to block shots. They encourage you to being positioned correctly on the floor...

Coaches want you to be in the correct position when you are guarding your man, when he has the ball. Not to close to him were it can easily become 5 against 4... but close enough to challenge his outside shot attempt. They also want you to be in the right position when your man does not have the ball, which includes being at the right spot when playing weak side defense... and when your man is in the vicinity from teh guy that has the ball.

A great defensive game from a player is when his man, who is used to taking 15 shots a game, goes 2 for 4 from the field, instead of 2 for 15 from the field. The first, you straight up denied him the ball and/or the ability to even get a shot off... the second could have been a case of the guy having a bad shooting game and/or taking some tough shots, due to good solid defense. I would be more impressed with the first scenario.
 
2012-10-23 02:15:40 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Basically, Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan each deserved one of Ben Wallace's DPOYs. Two of the great, signature defenders of the era and the dumbass media just mailed it in. A travesty.


www.shoot-hoops.com

The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.
 
2012-10-23 02:21:49 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Tayshaun Prince wasn't considered a good defender?


Goddammit I knew I forgot about one of 'em.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Basically, Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan each deserved one of Ben Wallace's DPOYs. Two of the great, signature defenders of the era and the dumbass media just mailed it in. A travesty.


Shawn Marion never made any type of All-Defensive team, even when he was the only guy finishing high up on the list for blocks and steals AND guarded everyone on the floor, 1-5 and was the Suns' only guy who played defense. And he wasn't a cheap-shot piece of sh*t like Bruce Bowen.

/no problem with Duncan
 
2012-10-23 02:23:34 PM  

Doogled: The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.


Amen. Or at least a knee, since he liked to do that to opponents. Maybe a kick to his Achilles tendon from behind.
 
2012-10-23 02:28:17 PM  

IAmRight: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Tayshaun Prince wasn't considered a good defender?

Goddammit I knew I forgot about one of 'em.


One on my favorite players of the last decade. Love his game.
 
2012-10-23 02:32:33 PM  
Defense is about more than just flashing, Dwight.
 
2012-10-23 02:38:25 PM  

IAmRight: Doogled: The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.

Amen. Or at least a knee, since he liked to do that to opponents. Maybe a kick to his Achilles tendon from behind.


Let's not forget about his go-to move, sticking his foot underneath defenders. How even Spurs homers can defend that POS is beyond me.
 
2012-10-23 02:39:06 PM  

Doogled: IAmRight: Doogled: The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.

Amen. Or at least a knee, since he liked to do that to opponents. Maybe a kick to his Achilles tendon from behind.

Let's not forget about his go-to move, sticking his foot underneath falling shooters. How even Spurs homers can defend that POS is beyond me.


FTFM.
 
2012-10-23 02:40:16 PM  
0-6 preseason aside, I can't wait to see what this team can do.
 
2012-10-23 02:47:15 PM  

IAmRight: Doogled: The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.

Amen. Or at least a knee, since he liked to do that to opponents. Maybe a kick to his Achilles tendon from behind.


Or the chin. Bowen is the only guy I've ever seen jump kick someone in the face during an NBA game.
 
2012-10-23 03:00:55 PM  

Neeek: Or the chin. Bowen is the only guy I've ever seen jump kick someone in the face during an NBA game.


And he's done it multiple times.

Doogled: Let's not forget about his go-to move, sticking his foot underneath defenders.


Yeah, I would've mentioned that one, but it's a bit hard to work into the whole way to threaten him, since you have to wait for him to be jumping. The other options are always on the table.

Wasilla Hillbilly: 0-6 preseason aside, I can't wait to see what this team can do.


0-82 would be GREAT.
 
2012-10-23 03:08:20 PM  

Doogled: IAmRight: Doogled: The only thing Bruce Bowen deserves is a swift kick in the nuts by every player he "guarded" during his playing days.

Amen. Or at least a knee, since he liked to do that to opponents. Maybe a kick to his Achilles tendon from behind.

Let's not forget about his go-to move, sticking his foot underneath defenders. How even Spurs homers can defend that POS is beyond me.


Only a foul if it gets called.

/not a fan of any basketball team
//T'Wolves fan
 
2012-10-23 03:16:25 PM  

regindyn: Only a foul if it gets called.


No one is offended by fouls, for the most part. Those happen. Being a piece of sh*t and trying to injure people who can't defend themselves...that's Bowen.
 
2012-10-23 04:13:35 PM  
Nothing makes me happier then people whinning about Bill Lambier, Rick Mahorn Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason,Dikembe Mutombo Kurt Rambis, Jeff Rulan, Xavier McDaniel,Maurice Lucas, Danny Ainge, Dennis Rodman ,Maurice Lucas aaaaannnnd Bruce Bowen. Love me some Physical Basketball, the only way it should be played.
 
2012-10-23 05:17:00 PM  

hugram: Blocking shots is a very small part of playing defense. Most good coaches don't even encourage you to block shots. They encourage you to being positioned correctly on the floor...

Coaches want you to be in the correct position when you are guarding your man, when he has the ball. Not to close to him were it can easily become 5 against 4... but close enough to challenge his outside shot attempt. They also want you to be in the right position when your man does not have the ball, which includes being at the right spot when playing weak side defense... and when your man is in the vicinity from teh guy that has the ball.

A great defensive game from a player is when his man, who is used to taking 15 shots a game, goes 2 for 4 from the field, instead of 2 for 15 from the field. The first, you straight up denied him the ball and/or the ability to even get a shot off... the second could have been a case of the guy having a bad shooting game and/or taking some tough shots, due to good solid defense. I would be more impressed with the first scenario.


The 2 for 4 scenario could also be explained by good team defense, not individual defense. Double-teaming the ball to prevent entry passes and designing defenses that keep multiple defenders within a few steps of the offensive player in question are two such possibilities.
 
2012-10-23 05:26:49 PM  

Gunny Highway: Shut up and play, Dwight. Seriously.


Hey, we agree on something! :-)

Homie still hasn't learned that the bar has been raised when he came to LA. He can take those DPoY awards and shove them up his highly paid ass if he doesn't bring at least one more championship to the Lakers. Alternatively, he could become a 9pts/9rebs guy this season -- and still be a hero -- if he does what they need him to do, when they need it, and they hang #17 in the rafters.
 
2012-10-23 05:31:10 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: With yet another ridiculous trade going the Lakers way and this clown shooting his mouth off, I wonder if I'll be able to stand the NBA this year.

No, you dope, no you don't deserve the DPOY.

/fun fact: not a single member of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs won the award, not Bruce Bowen, not Tim Duncan. Not. Once.


Well technically David Robinson won the award. He just won it in a different decade.

IAmRight: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Tayshaun Prince wasn't considered a good defender?

Goddammit I knew I forgot about one of 'em.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Basically, Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan each deserved one of Ben Wallace's DPOYs. Two of the great, signature defenders of the era and the dumbass media just mailed it in. A travesty.

Shawn Marion never made any type of All-Defensive team, even when he was the only guy finishing high up on the list for blocks and steals AND guarded everyone on the floor, 1-5 and was the Suns' only guy who played defense. And he wasn't a cheap-shot piece of sh*t like Bruce Bowen.

/no problem with Duncan


Marion also had the misfortune of going against guys like Prince, Garnett, Artest, etc... during the height of his defensive prowess. The fact that those guys were on more defense oriented teams and there's no delineation between 4s and 3s on the ADT definitely hurt him too. He deserved at least one.
 
2012-10-23 05:31:31 PM  

Doogled: monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?

Zone defense is now allowed in the NBA.

It'll be interesting to see if the NBA is actually going to put out a better product this season. Aside from the flop fining that will (hopefully) go on, the NBA has also put in a rule against the Reggie Miller legkick (for you college fans, the Duke legkick as Scheyer and Redick used it extensively during their days at Duke). As always with the NBA, it will really depend on how these rules are enforced, and history does not give me a lot of confidence in that.

Finally, thanks to Griffin, Paul, and Howard, I have to say fark both LA teams. It sucks to have to root against Hill, Nash, and Gasol, but that's how it is.


Racist?
 
2012-10-23 05:39:33 PM  
It is going to be epic when the Lakers win it all this year.

Farking Epic.
 
2012-10-23 05:54:20 PM  

Free Radical: It is going to be epic when the Lakers win it all this year.

Farking Epic.


it would take some sort of steve nash miracle to keep everyone on that team engaged on the offensive side.

/im really hoping all the personalities cause a implosion of biblical proportions instead
 
2012-10-23 06:04:13 PM  

Halstread: Doogled: monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?

Zone defense is now allowed in the NBA.

It'll be interesting to see if the NBA is actually going to put out a better product this season. Aside from the flop fining that will (hopefully) go on, the NBA has also put in a rule against the Reggie Miller legkick (for you college fans, the Duke legkick as Scheyer and Redick used it extensively during their days at Duke). As always with the NBA, it will really depend on how these rules are enforced, and history does not give me a lot of confidence in that.

Finally, thanks to Griffin, Paul, and Howard, I have to say fark both LA teams. It sucks to have to root against Hill, Nash, and Gasol, but that's how it is.

Racist?


Nope. The Howard one should be obvious from the way he treated his former team. Paul has been on my shiatlist ever since he punched Julius Hodge in the nuts, and his flopping ways have not helped his case. Griffin is a flopper who gets more preferential treatment from the refs than 99.99% of first year players I've watched in the last ~20 years (like the NBA, I'm counting the last season as his rookie year). Hill has always been a standup guy, despite his failure to choose a good university. Nash is always fun to watch, and Gasol is just fun to watch.
 
2012-10-23 06:05:32 PM  

Doogled: Halstread: Doogled: monkwich: Gunny Highway: monkwich: IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.

isn't the 3 second violation for the offense.

Goes both ways in the NBA.

i am behind the times on the rules. do they still call illegal defense?

Zone defense is now allowed in the NBA.

It'll be interesting to see if the NBA is actually going to put out a better product this season. Aside from the flop fining that will (hopefully) go on, the NBA has also put in a rule against the Reggie Miller legkick (for you college fans, the Duke legkick as Scheyer and Redick used it extensively during their days at Duke). As always with the NBA, it will really depend on how these rules are enforced, and history does not give me a lot of confidence in that.

Finally, thanks to Griffin, Paul, and Howard, I have to say fark both LA teams. It sucks to have to root against Hill, Nash, and Gasol, but that's how it is.

Racist?

Nope. The Howard one should be obvious from the way he treated his former team. Paul has been on my shiatlist ever since he punched Julius Hodge in the nuts, and his flopping ways have not helped his case. Griffin is a flopper who gets more preferential treatment from the refs than 99.99% of first year players I've watched in the last ~20 years (like the NBA, I'm counting the last season as his rookie year). Hill has always been a standup guy, despite his failure to choose a good university. Nash and Gasol are just fun to watch.


FTFM.

/Sleepy
 
2012-10-23 06:11:36 PM  
Dear Dwight Howard,

STFU, EABOD, and DIAF
 
2012-10-23 08:26:14 PM  

IAmRight: a) he has won the DPoY. (Mostly because he doesn't have to make any effort to actually guard his own man (as centers, especially Eastern Conference centers suck) and is allowed to camp out in the lane for well over three seconds at a time, dozens of times per game)
b) last year he didn't because he's basically a whinier Mitt Romney with all his changing his mind based on what he thinks people want to hear.


Actually he's a whinier IAmRight, if you want to get technical about it.
 
2012-10-23 11:54:01 PM  

JasonThomasX: Dear Dwight Howard,

STFU, EABOD, and DIAF


Never heard of EABOD and DIAF before...
 
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