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(Washington Times)   Russia TV, Al Jazeera the only networks to cover the third party presidential debate tonight. Potential audience: 760 million. Gary Johnson still pinching himself   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 239
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2012-10-23 10:55:19 AM
Potential audience: 760 million.
Number of those who actually have a vote in the matter: 35 (assuming there weren't any hot Fark Independent™ threads going just then).
 
2012-10-23 12:13:38 PM
I'll attempt to tune if if Vermin Supreme shows up.
 
2012-10-23 12:15:47 PM
Only four third party candidates? The socialist, the white nationalist and Vermin Supreme (lol) are conspicuously absent, and probably some others too. Were they excluded or did they back out? If the former, was it because they do not have enough of a percentage of support in the latest polls?
 
2012-10-23 12:43:35 PM
I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.
 
2012-10-23 12:47:41 PM
This would actually be kind of entertaining to watch. Is it being live-streamed?
 
2012-10-23 02:10:48 PM
Oh, I get those channels on my Roku, so perhaps I will take a look.
 
2012-10-23 02:11:14 PM

DamnYankees: This would actually be kind of entertaining to watch. Is it being live-streamed?


FTFA: The debate is being shown Tuesday starting at 9 p.m. online at http://freeandequal.org
 
2012-10-23 02:15:42 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.


Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in option. A lot.
 
2012-10-23 02:54:56 PM

Bontesla: I used the write in option. A lot.


Lizard People?
 
2012-10-23 03:29:06 PM
I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?
 
2012-10-23 03:46:28 PM
Number of somehow-still-undecided who have enough brainpower to work their remote controls: 3,000.
 
2012-10-23 03:51:16 PM

dahmers love zombie: I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?


Depends on if I'm able to tune in. I'm working all night. I'm I'm able to watch, I'll be there with bells on.
 
2012-10-23 03:51:59 PM

Bontesla: Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.

Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in optionwasted my vote. A lot.


FTFY
 
2012-10-23 03:54:13 PM
of those 760 million, how many know that this debate is irrelevant, or will it be (disingenuously) broadcast as if it is important to those people?
 
2012-10-23 03:57:47 PM

Bontesla: Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.

Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in option. A lot.


one less vote for obama. woohoo. though given it is georgia, irrelevant.
 
2012-10-23 03:59:02 PM

dahmers love zombie: I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?


Better candidates and no football or playoff baseball to distract me. I'm in.
 
2012-10-23 04:04:35 PM

BravadoGT: Bontesla: Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.

Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in optionwasted my vote. A lot.

FTFY


Not necessarily. Have you seen the number of unopposed candidates this year? I voted for my girlfriend for sheriff!
 
2012-10-23 04:14:11 PM
Is Bob Davies of the Female Circumcision Party showing up to this debate?
 
2012-10-23 06:21:26 PM

violentsalvation: dahmers love zombie: I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?

Better candidates and no football or playoff baseball to distract me. I'm in.


How about we just convert this thread to the official one?
 
2012-10-23 06:41:04 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: BravadoGT: Bontesla: Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.

Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in optionwasted my vote. A lot.

FTFY

Not necessarily. Have you seen the number of unopposed candidates this year? I voted for my girlfriend for sheriff!


I voted for her too - she gives a mean mustache ride...
 
2012-10-23 07:05:41 PM
Gee whiz.  When I was a kid I remember my older sister campaigning on behalf of John Anderson.
 
He ended up getting over five percent of the popular vote.
 
2012-10-23 07:10:42 PM

ShawnDoc: Bontesla: I used the write in option. A lot.

Lizard People?


Stephen Colbert.
 
2012-10-23 07:13:05 PM

BravadoGT: Bontesla: Rev. Skarekroe: I voted yesterday and was disappointed to see that the Green Party was not on the Georgia ballot. I wasn't going to vote for them, but I was still disappointed.

Voted today in Georgia. Lines were about an hour long at around 1:30pm.

I used the write in optionwasted my vote. A lot.

FTFY


[Citation needed]
 
2012-10-23 07:42:21 PM

dugitman: violentsalvation: dahmers love zombie: I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?

Better candidates and no football or playoff baseball to distract me. I'm in.

How about we just convert this thread to the official one?


Yeah that's the easiest, we don't need two threads.
 
2012-10-23 08:07:19 PM
C-SPAN will stream at 9PM eastern. SD, not HD, but they tend to be very neutral.
 
2012-10-23 08:07:30 PM
www.washingtonpost.com

Romney takes Pakistan!
 
2012-10-23 08:07:59 PM

dahmers love zombie: I think getting together and doing this as a live thread is only fair. I promise to be in a thread making snide comments, even if the admins only run it as TF. Who's with me?


Dammit! My TF sponsorship ran out yesterday :(
 
2012-10-23 08:08:28 PM
You know, these 3rd, 4th, 5th parties all have their heads up their asses, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. They need to concentrate on small, local elections and work their way up the food chain and gain credibility instead of this silly nonsense of just putting some schmo up for president every four years. Yes, it'll take 20-30 years, but they may would actually have a chance in hell of doing something effective.
 
2012-10-23 08:10:41 PM

whistleridge: Potential audience: 760 million.
Number of those who actually have a vote in the matter: 35 (assuming there weren't any hot Fark Independent™ threads going just then).


Yes but for the exact reasons they are saying.

Quote of a Quote in the article:

"In the country that is often claimed to be the greatest democracy in the world, they are all excluded from all of the televised presidential debates,"

MSM including "Fair & Balanced" FOX News is not putting them on the air. They have every right to be on the air as they are legitimate parties with legitimate candidates. The media should be forced to air their debates just like they are for the Republican / Democrat showdown. 

Our country would be much better off if we were not forced into this 2 party system.
 
2012-10-23 08:17:45 PM
What's streaming now on that site?
 
2012-10-23 08:21:45 PM
Well, good luck Governor Johnson and the rest. Here is hoping you can rattle a few cages.

/he really should have run for the Senate first and tried for Prez in 2016
 
2012-10-23 08:24:15 PM

Johnny Swank: You know, these 3rd, 4th, 5th parties all have their heads up their asses, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. They need to concentrate on small, local elections and work their way up the food chain and gain credibility instead of this silly nonsense of just putting some schmo up for president every four years. Yes, it'll take 20-30 years, but they may would actually have a chance in hell of doing something effective.


But that would require time, hard work and, if elected, having to deal with reality by compromising with other people.

Much easier sit on the sidelines and whine that both sides are equally bad and therefore exactly the same while basking in their smug purity.

Kazrath: The media should be forced to air their debates just like they are for the Republican / Democrat showdown.


[citation needed]
 
2012-10-23 08:25:16 PM

Johnny Swank: You know, these 3rd, 4th, 5th parties all have their heads up their asses, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. They need to concentrate on small, local elections and work their way up the food chain and gain credibility instead of this silly nonsense of just putting some schmo up for president every four years. Yes, it'll take 20-30 years, but they may would actually have a chance in hell of doing something effective.


Some of us consider them the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th parties.

SO far as working the way up, have you ever tried that?

I have, The laws and rules are deliberately stacked against them by the R and D parties in order to prevent that.

There was, once, a thriving multi-party environment in this country. after the nations political environment stabilized small parties arose. For about a century starting in the 1820's, until the laws were changed to encourage first-past-the-post elections and eliminate at-large congressional elections, replaced by single district offices.

The entire system is rigged to make it defacto illegal for an alternative party to gain traction, without expressly writing it in the law.
 
2012-10-23 08:27:09 PM
On the one hand, it's great to see all these different candidates and see these ideas be represented.

On the other hand, most of these people are insane and none of them understand how politics work.
 
2012-10-23 08:28:58 PM
This guy has a real southern drawl
 
2012-10-23 08:29:01 PM
Virgil Goode sounds like a farking cartoon character. That's not his real voice, is it? Is that Sasha Baren Cohen?
 
2012-10-23 08:36:57 PM
HRaaarrh ehrr constiturrrtion weherrr fourrrndrn frrrthers hrrr taxerrs.
 
2012-10-23 08:37:20 PM
Well dammit, I have to go get the kid from gymnastics practice. I will try to be back by 9:20 or so. Snark on.

/I'll also try to keep on believing that people strongly care about whether I'm in the thread or not. It's the little things that count
//that's what she said
 
2012-10-23 08:39:34 PM
I like how they are interviewing them before the debate
 
2012-10-23 08:41:46 PM

tomWright: Johnny Swank: You know, these 3rd, 4th, 5th parties all have their heads up their asses, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. They need to concentrate on small, local elections and work their way up the food chain and gain credibility instead of this silly nonsense of just putting some schmo up for president every four years. Yes, it'll take 20-30 years, but they may would actually have a chance in hell of doing something effective.

Some of us consider them the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th parties.

SO far as working the way up, have you ever tried that?

I have, The laws and rules are deliberately stacked against them by the R and D parties in order to prevent that.

There was, once, a thriving multi-party environment in this country. after the nations political environment stabilized small parties arose. For about a century starting in the 1820's, until the laws were changed to encourage first-past-the-post elections and eliminate at-large congressional elections, replaced by single district offices.

The entire system is rigged to make it defacto illegal for an alternative party to gain traction, without expressly writing it in the law.


Aaaaaand THIS.

Many state ballot-access laws are some of the most notorious forms of legalized corruption. So why the fark would you bother running for the ultimate backbench spot in a legislature designed to shiat all over you even in the unlikely event you were to win? If the rules are set up to stifle you, fark it - swing for the fences.

Besides, Johnson's been governor of New Mexico and demonstrated there that he had his shiat together. We elected a governor from Arkansas and he seems to have done okay by more Americans than either of his successors.
 
2012-10-23 08:45:31 PM
I believe it's on DirecTV 375 - "Link" - in about 15 minutes. It's also streaming here.
 
2012-10-23 08:48:16 PM

silgryphon: I like how they are interviewing them before the debate


Moderator: If you want to join the Free and Equal debate, you have to really hate the two party system.
Candidate: I do!
Moderator: Oh yeah, how much?
Candidate: A lot!
Moderator: Right, you're in.
 
2012-10-23 08:52:43 PM
It's a damn pity that the republicans decided that Mitt was a better candidate than Johnson. Telling, really.
 
2012-10-23 08:54:21 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.washingtonpost.com image 350x543]

Romney takes Pakistan!


Obama conducted covert ops inside their borders, acted without their consent, drone bomb the shiat out of them, killed dozens - possibly hundreds - of citizens, and Romney is only beating him by 3%.
 
2012-10-23 08:57:06 PM

tomWright: C-SPAN will stream at 9PM eastern. SD, not HD, but they tend to be very neutral.


Thanks I think I like that link better than the other one.
 
2012-10-23 08:58:29 PM
For this debate I am drinking straight sriracha sauce.
 
2012-10-23 08:59:02 PM
Woop it's go time
 
2012-10-23 08:59:33 PM
Did Larry King agree to this, or is he just drunk and bored of hookers?
 
2012-10-23 09:00:01 PM
Hey Audience scream and shout all night

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
 
2012-10-23 09:00:06 PM
This is good late night tv so far.
 
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