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2012-10-23 08:36:19 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

"Back off, Hamilton. She's mine!"
 
2012-10-23 09:07:43 AM
Daddy WANT.
 
2012-10-23 09:32:56 AM

DjangoStonereaver: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x310]

"Back off, Hamilton. She's mine!"


www.lotustalk.com

OMNOMNOM give me more tires
 
2012-10-23 10:01:43 AM
learn to spell, subby

it's koenigseggigggeggysegg
 
2012-10-23 10:02:10 AM
Do you know how many v6 Mustangs I could buy for that?!
 
2012-10-23 10:04:30 AM

Rincewind53: Daddy WANT.


While I admit it is definitely cool, I still think the Atomic is a more "fun" car. Well, okay, it's an insane little car.

I wonder if the Stig will crash this one too?
 
2012-10-23 10:09:08 AM
Hope to see Top Gear review this soon!
 
2012-10-23 10:09:54 AM
And,

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2012-10-23 10:18:37 AM

inglixthemad: Rincewind53: Daddy WANT.

While I admit it is definitely cool, I still think the Atomic is a more "fun" car. Well, okay, it's an insane little car.

I wonder if the Stig will crash this one too?


This one looks to have a proper back wing/airfoil, so hopefully not.
 
2012-10-23 10:20:13 AM
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-23 10:22:28 AM
It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.
 
2012-10-23 10:27:46 AM

indarwinsshadow: It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.


Well, it's also licensed for sale in the US. And you can also drive it to Germany from Sweden. I know this because my uncle did this in his M5 on the way to France from Sweden once. Only he didn't realize that there are actually speed limits on many parts of the autobahn. The flashing lights confused him until he got home and had a whole buttload of German speeding tickets to pay.
 
2012-10-23 10:32:18 AM

Grither: indarwinsshadow: It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.

Well, it's also licensed for sale in the US. And you can also drive it to Germany from Sweden. I know this because my uncle did this in his M5 on the way to France from Sweden once. Only he didn't realize that there are actually speed limits on many parts of the autobahn. The flashing lights confused him until he got home and had a whole buttload of German speeding tickets to pay.


*Head Slap*. Forgot that in Europe you can drive a hell of a lot faster than you can in NA.
 
2012-10-23 10:34:33 AM
While searching for the meaning of the Martha Stewart non sequitur in the middle of the article I found that the purple car destined for China seems not to have gotten there:
http://www.actiontoday.net/en/more/3031-25/Chinese-police-seize-one-o f f-Koenigsegg-Agera-R-BLT.html

100% in import duty on a 2.3MM car. Wow.
 
2012-10-23 10:35:44 AM
And a compression ratio higher that a normally aspirated diesel...I'd be dead in about 20 seconds driving this monster.

/it would be glorious!!!!
 
2012-10-23 10:44:00 AM
They don't say who made the engine, but without going and looking it up I wonder if it's Ford's Coyote V8. It was designed for direct injection, but has not yet been built that way by Ford. It's the same size. People are getting near 500 hp out of the 3.5 liter ecoboost V6, so it would make sense that a 5 liter set up as an ecoboost would absolutely blow out some power. At the compression ratio listed in the article direct injection is the only way you could make it work.
 
2012-10-23 10:47:48 AM
After looking it up, I guess not.
 
2012-10-23 10:56:44 AM

Explodo: They don't say who made the engine, but without going and looking it up I wonder if it's Ford's Coyote V8. It was designed for direct injection, but has not yet been built that way by Ford. It's the same size. People are getting near 500 hp out of the 3.5 liter ecoboost V6, so it would make sense that a 5 liter set up as an ecoboost would absolutely blow out some power. At the compression ratio listed in the article direct injection is the only way you could make it work.


It's based on a ford design but they even cast own blocks so it's not exactly the same. Have I said too much...aaaaaarrrrggg.
 
2012-10-23 11:01:01 AM

indarwinsshadow: It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.


There is no point. On the one hand it's an interesting piece of automotive engineering. On the other, it's just an indulgence. Sure, it performs, on some simple level, a basic fundamental task. It's gets you from point A to B, but not very efficiently. But what's the point of buying a Hershey candy bar? None. Sure, it's technically nourishment, but it's terrible, empty nourishment that serves little practical purpose. It's just an indulgence.

This is just an indulgence for people with a hell of a lot more money than most of us... 

/ besides, if you're into that sort of thing, you could take it to tracks and open it up
 
2012-10-23 11:09:23 AM

indarwinsshadow: It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.


It's for the .1% The rest of us have to settle for posters.
 
2012-10-23 11:43:04 AM
As an aside and an alternative for people wanting close levels of performance without breaking the bank, look at building (yes, building) a Westfield or Caterham. You won't hit top speed of the Koenigseggigggeggysegg, but you'll certainly scare yourself silly.

You'll get 4 second 0-60 times, and on my g-meter last, I was able to pull 1.2gs cornering, and 1.3gs braking.

Total cost to build my Westfield was $15k (US). The added extra bonus is due to the light weight and chassis design, the drivetrain doesn't have to be tuned within an inch of its life - this means the car's totally happy poking around town and noodling in traffic, and equally loves being thrashed.

The car came complete from Westfield with everything but engine, transmission, driveshaft, wheels and tires.

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High performance doesn't have to cost and arm and a leg; just ask anyone with a superbike or performance-built car.
 
2012-10-23 11:48:31 AM
"Urge to pee" is not a phrase I expected to see in that article.
 
2012-10-23 12:01:27 PM
"Mr. Koenigsegg estimates the car's top speed would clock in around 273 mph-faster than the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport's record of 267.8 mph-if, that is, he could find some stretch of Mars upon which to test it"
Well I estimate my pickup could do 274 mph if only I could find a place on Uranus large enough to test it.
 
2012-10-23 12:08:10 PM

AbiNormal: "Mr. Koenigsegg estimates the car's top speed would clock in around 273 mph-faster than the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport's record of 267.8 mph-if, that is, he could find some stretch of Mars upon which to test it"
Well I estimate my pickup could do 274 mph if only I could find a place on Uranus large enough to test it.


This.

We don't give 2 sh*ts about your "estimations", funny named guy.
 
2012-10-23 01:18:43 PM

indarwinsshadow: It's a street car where the top speeds (in km) are 50 in the city and 100 on the highway. What's the point?

//No seriously, what's the point. I can see owning this and racing it, but for the street. Seems like a colossal waste of cash.


As my midlife crisis begins to come up on boost, I have been thinking a lot about this. I always wanted certain cars, but they just don't seem to be reasonable to own where I live now. It doesn't do me much good to get to 60MPH in less than 5 seconds, nor is there anywhere that I can pull more than .5G in a turn unless I want to dump the grocery bags over in the back. It's got me thinking vintage Caddy or Lincoln rather than Porsche, Ferrari, Ariel Atom, or whatever. There just isn't anyplace where something like that can be turned loose besides the track. Since I never have enough time to take a car to the track, a cruiser seems like a better decision. It would be a shame to finally be able to pick up a REAL 911 Turbo (yeah, I know those aren't near what a supercar is these days) just to run the 2 miles to work or across town, stopping every 100 yards or so at a light. It'd be like having a Greyhound and living in an apartment.

Of course:

CBob: And a compression ratio higher that a normally aspirated diesel...I'd be dead in about 20 seconds driving this monster.

/it would be glorious!!!!


Yeah. What he said. A glorious 20 seconds.
 
2012-10-23 01:19:43 PM
Added to Amazon wish list for Christmas. I hope someone pulls through!
 
2012-10-23 01:23:52 PM

The Muthaship: AbiNormal: "Mr. Koenigsegg estimates the car's top speed would clock in around 273 mph-faster than the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport's record of 267.8 mph-if, that is, he could find some stretch of Mars upon which to test it"
Well I estimate my pickup could do 274 mph if only I could find a place on Uranus large enough to test it.

This.

We don't give 2 sh*ts about your "estimations", funny named guy.


It's not all that hard to estimate top speed if you know all the other numbers. Car and bike magazines do it all the time with surprising accuracy while knowing much less about the cars than the guy who designed it.
 
kab
2012-10-23 02:11:52 PM

Znuh: As an aside and an alternative for people wanting close levels of performance without breaking the bank, look at building (yes, building) a Westfield or Caterham. You won't hit top speed of the Koenigseggigggeggysegg, but you'll certainly scare yourself silly.

You'll get 4 second 0-60 times, and on my g-meter last, I was able to pull 1.2gs cornering, and 1.3gs braking.

Total cost to build my Westfield was $15k (US). The added extra bonus is due to the light weight and chassis design, the drivetrain doesn't have to be tuned within an inch of its life - this means the car's totally happy poking around town and noodling in traffic, and equally loves being thrashed.

The car came complete from Westfield with everything but engine, transmission, driveshaft, wheels and tires.

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High performance doesn't have to cost and arm and a leg; just ask anyone with a superbike or performance-built car.


I'd swear I've asked you about this before, but I'd love to know more details about this car (were you able to get it street-legal, what motor did you go with, how was the build process and quality of parts from Westfield, etc)
 
2012-10-23 02:15:25 PM
I don't know shiat about cars. Seriously. I'm an office jockey/paper pusher. That being said, this little bit FTFA...

... then hit the gas, over the top, and straight down, bang, bang, bang go the gears. A plunging vertigo takes over, a forward free-fall. The momentum builds in inexorable squares of mass and you scream your face off. Welcome to Six Flags Over Sweden.

Damn! 

/Rolls over, falls asleep...
 
2012-10-23 02:20:38 PM

animal900: It's not all that hard to estimate top speed if you know all the other numbers.


If you want to say you have the fastest car in the world, estimates won't do.
 
2012-10-23 03:16:02 PM

kab: I'd swear I've asked you about this before, but I'd love to know more details about this car (were you able to get it street-legal, what motor did you go with, how was the build process and quality of parts from Westfield, etc)


Yep! Happy to oblige! The car is overall very well put together and quite overbuilt; A lot of the parts used (Differential, brakes, rack and pinion) are used on larger cars, and as such are very understressed. Pushing around 1/3 of their weight tends to increase lifespan greatly!

The rest of the car is entirely Westfield; and is very, very strong. The chassis is made up of a series of triangulated boxed tubes (similar to the Ariel Atom), and does not flex. It's also German TUV crash certified.

Here's a great pic of the chassis on a car being assembled with two ZX9R motorcycle engines ganged together; you can really put anything in them, engine-wise.

westfield-world.com

Though Westfield does sell the car fully assembled, in order to get through bumper-height regulations, etc. etc. I brought the car over in component (kit) form. A big box marked 'parts' is a heck of a lot easier to get through Customs. Once built, you end up registering the car as a 'homemade or handbuilt vehicle' in your state, and the state issues you a VIN.

My car is registered in Maine, and is 100% street legal. The real shocker is that Geico had zero issues with the state-issued VIN, and further, costs me $28 a month to insure. That's normal insurance on top of my daily driver, no joke. My total premium a month is $76.00.

I wanted to run a Cosworth BDA motor, but they wanted ten grand for that. So, I asked myself, what would be a nice 4-valve twin cam motor, with a great manual gearbox to match - I went with a 1995 Miata MX5 1.8 liter engine, with the seriously nice Miata transmission. Later I found out that the Toyota 4AGE is practically a direct knockoff of the BDA. Here's a pic of the engine bay of my car:

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I wasn't supposed to build the car myself; I originally went through Westfield's Dealer in CT, only to find much, much later that Westfield didn't have a legit dealer in CT, and none of my money ever made it to Westfield through him. I have the Feds to thank for getting my money to England, and Westfield shipped the car directly to me, at my house.

The biggest challenge with the car (besides never having built one myself before), was fabricating the motor and transmission mounts; no one before had decided to use the MX-5 as a power source. I also had a fuel cell fabricated for me from Fuel Safe out in Bend, OR. so I could take the car racing.

With the exception of the mounts, the rest of the car really went together quite easily, and required little fabrication. If you went with one of the numerous engines that Westfield now support (including the MX-5, Chris Smith (owner) thought that was a cool idea after I told him what I'd installed), it should be even easier. People fit the Rover/Buick aluminum 215 V8, others have dropped in Honda S2000 engines, the Chevy 3.8 V6, the list goes on and on.

So, to summarize, the build was straightforward with the exception of the custom mounts I had to make, the parts are strong and well-built, enough to thrash the car without having to worry about anything breaking. The only thing that was annoying was the level of communication - not sure if they had a handful of pissed-off people working the parts counter in England, but that proved to be a temporary thing. Registering the car wasn't rocket science, but had it's own share of red tape. You have to keep *all* of the receipts, and the state will end up going through each and every one to make sure that nothing's stolen. 

The car also comes with complete weather gear too:

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Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, I'm happy to answer!
 
2012-10-23 04:50:05 PM

Znuh: kab: I'd swear I've asked you about this before, but I'd love to know more details about this car (were you able to get it street-legal, what motor did you go with, how was the build process and quality of parts from Westfield, etc)

Yep! Happy to oblige! (Cool car pics)..


That is one great looking car. I have always liked the Seven series whether it is Lotus, Caterham, or Westfield. If I may ask, why did you choose Westfield over Caterham? I assume the different suspension set-up and/or fiberglass body, but when I read online there seems to be a lot of WHARGARBL on the true differences between the two manufacturers.
 
2012-10-23 05:17:17 PM
Many thanks! They're both very well built cars; Caterham is the one with the 'pedigree'; they bought (or were given) the OK from Lotus to build their own flavor of the Super 7 after Lotus stopped production, so in that vein, they claim 'direct lineage'.

The only problem with that, is they also charge you for that privilege. Whereas with Westfield, you get the same level of performance (this will be argued/wharrgarbled) without paying through the nose. Westfield also don't call their car a 7; in their eyes, it's an evolution of the design.

Westfield's design annoyed Caterham to the point Caterham sued them in the early 90s, forcing Westfield to slightly change the look of their car. In the process, Westfield gave their car the option of fully independent rear suspension - something which Caterham didn't have at the time.

It boils down to Coke or Pepsi, and you'll have to find out which one tastes better to you. There's a great company in the US making their version of the 7 called the Brunton Stalker, and out of South Africa, there's the excellent Birkin.

What did it for me was I went to the Vintage Fall Festival at Lime Rock, and saw both the Caterham and the Westfield teams. The guy from Caterham was an absolute dick in every sense of the word, while the Westfield guy was happy to walk me through the car, how it was set up and why, and answered a ton of questions. Later on in the actual race, the Caterham broke a halfshaft (rear axle), and lost his left rear tire. The Westfield stomped the hell out of a bunch of $100k Porsches and Ferraris, and finished without any DNFs.

That made my decision, and Westfield was what I went with. The community seems to be a lot nicer, but that's just me, whereas it's been my opinion that most Caterham owners seem to be a bit on the snooty side - your mileage may vary.
 
2012-10-23 05:24:38 PM
The differences now are so close they genuinely overlap; both makers offer independent suspension, both offer a suite of engines/transmissions, both will accept motorcycle engines, so on and so forth. Westfield is a fiberglass body over a fully enclosed, aluminum paneled chassis; I understand the now Caterham offers both an aluminum skinned outer and inner body (read, $$$), as well as Fiberglass. Both now offer carbon fiber.

The competition has been so fierce (and filled with options) that it boils down to personal choice. Again, Coke vs. Pepsi.
 
2012-10-23 10:18:44 PM
It isn't anywhere near the car, but I think I could make myself happy with the Hennessy ctsv, and an assortment of vacation homes...

http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/c ts-v1000-coupe.html
 
2012-10-24 01:08:04 AM
I can't believe we got this far into a supercar thread without some Prius driving douche coming in to spoil the party.
 
2012-10-24 02:27:02 AM

fatalvenom: I can't believe we got this far into a supercar thread without some Prius driving douche coming in to spoil the party.

 

i1056.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-25 09:37:18 AM
The top looks like a camel toe .
 
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