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(NPR)   New study shows that 8 out of 10 young adults in the "Facebook Generation"--who are between the ages of 16 and 29--have read at least one book in the past year. Unfortunately, it was probably Twilight   (npr.org) divider line 134
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2012-10-23 12:42:19 PM

naughtyrev: "America's Facebook Generation Is Reading Strong" - way to lower the bar, NPR. One book a year is not strong, it's pathetic.


Not so long ago, there wasn't a bar at all; that's how far we had fallen. One book a year is not a good bar, but it still represents improvement over ten years ago.
 
2012-10-23 12:42:33 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Gunny Highway: I have a problem finishing books...

Then you should read Stephen King.


My brother has been telling me this for years. He let me borrow the Dark Tower series and I am going to start once I finish the latest pile I have started.
 
2012-10-23 12:46:24 PM
Learning how to read is definitely on my bucket list for 2013.
 
Biv
2012-10-23 12:49:31 PM

Raug the Dwarf: Biv: Raug the Dwarf: Biv: Raug the Dwarf: Biv: bdub77: sweetmelissa31: bdub77:

Yeah, the Ring of Fire/163x books are at the top of my list as well. Don't know the author you're speaking of. Have to look into it


For sure. He's got three series. Dead Six is a military thriller. Grimnoire Chronicles is, in his words, "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen meets the Xmen, set during WWI." It's great. And the Monster Hunter series is balls-to-the-wall fun.


Okay, now I'm very interested. Sounds like you would enjoy the Wild Cards series, as well. Super powers and mutants just after wwii
 
2012-10-23 12:51:13 PM
3 to 5 a week. Only because I hit Book Off every week as my treat to myself. I credit that store with my underpaid and underemployed self surviving the Great Recession relatively sane. (Unscarred, no... but relatively sane.)

/books!
 
2012-10-23 01:01:41 PM
I just listened to the Pew report from the director, Lee Rainie, here at the Internet Librarian conference in Monterey and its actually sounding pretty good. 16-29 year olds are actually reading more (yes, it may be Twilight and other crap) than previous generations as they have the access via more formats and they actually are spending more time in libraries....but they are reading. At the university I work at, a good number on on FB and the like as I watch from the reference desk, but from what I see, its a quick checkup on what everyone is doing, and then onto reading for their classes or working on projects. maybe the future isn't as doomed as I thought it was. What nobody knows is what do libraries have to do to retool in five years from now? If you know that, your the next millionaire
 
2012-10-23 01:04:39 PM

yoyoyo: Internet Librarian conference


What is this all about?

/librarian

yoyoyo: What nobody knows is what do libraries have to do to retool in five years from now?


Libraries are still trying to figure out what they should have been 10 years ago. We are helplessly behind as a profession and the solutions to problems exist on a library to library basis.

Identify your users and built your collection, programs, and mission around them.
 
2012-10-23 01:06:48 PM
I've been keeping track of each book I've read since January. Not counting audiobooks, or books read for class, or short stories/novellas, or comic books, or podcasts (I love Podcastle/Pseudopod/Escape Pod), I hit 50 books in early September. Having a Kindle app helps - easier to read on the bus that way, but I also just make the time for reading. And I can listen to audiobooks and podcasts at work and during my commute, which helps.

/Unashamed bibliophile
// The Podcastle/Pseudopod/Escape Pod network of podcasts are amazing
 
2012-10-23 01:19:08 PM
This is the last book I read:

covers.openlibrary.org
 
2012-10-23 01:21:31 PM

ObscureNameHere: seniorgato: Gunny Highway: mainstreet62: bdub77: Sci-fi military? Hmm.

It doesn't have to be strictly that genre. I prefer fast paced books that have a fair amount of depth.

I'll try some of your suggestions as well. Thank you. :-)

If you havent read Ender's Game I highly recommend it. It is Sci-fi military and one of the best books I have ever read.

I picked up Ender's Game not knowing anything about it, except that it was good. I started reading and was forced to go to sleep half way through because it was 2am. It's that good. Next day I finished it. Wonderful book.

The next book "Speaker for the Dead" is a better book. Then stop reading the series, because it all goes to crap after "Speaker".


Speaker for the Dead is excellent. I read both books before finding out that Orson Scott Card was a member of NOM. I still like those two books, but I cannot stand him as a person. If Ender's Game makes it to theatres, I won't see it, simply because I reserve the right not to financially support someone who wants to deny me the right to get married.

\Speaker for the Dead >> Ender's Game
\\OSC is still a bigoted jackass
 
2012-10-23 01:22:59 PM

Biv: Raug the Dwarf: mainstreet62: Can anyone recommend some books for me?

Just to give you all a taste of what I like: I'm a big fan of Robert Ludlum's books, including the Covert One series (which incorporates a bunch of biomedical info), written by several authors after Ludlum's death but using his style. I also like Dale Brown, which is a bunch of sci-fi military stuff.

I'm about to read Steve Jobs' bio. One of the most successful people in history (like him or hate him), should be a good read. But after that I don't know where to focus my attention.

Ideas?

If you like Military action, you might try John Ringo. The Kildar series is a lot of fun. There is a ton of sex and bondage tossed in too.

Another vote for John Ringo. The Kildar series rocks.


Obligatory: Oh John Ringo, NO!
 
2012-10-23 01:27:21 PM

madanimalscientist: \\OSC is still a bigoted jackass


I was disappointed to learn that after finishing Ender's Game
 
2012-10-23 01:35:23 PM

Gunny Highway: madanimalscientist: \\OSC is still a bigoted jackass

I was disappointed to learn that after finishing Ender's Game


I gave my brother a copy of Ender's Game, but after I explained that OSC was a decent writer, but as a person he holds some pretty bad views, and that while some of it may be a product of his generation and religion, a lot of it is him actively trying to infringe on the rights of others. And you can appreciate a work while detesting its author. Just, buy the books secondhand so that none of the money goes to the person.
 
2012-10-23 01:46:57 PM
I read four books this summer. I need to get back on it. My wishlist has almost 50 on it, and I have about six at home to get through.

I find reading for me, was something I didn't take to until my late 20's. Earlier on, it was one book a year, maybe, aside from very brief spurts where I'd read a bunch of Stephen King, Anne Rice or something. Now that I'm in my thirties, priorities have changed, and I don't go out as much. Plus I find myself thinking more and more, "GTFO my lawn, leave me alone, and let me read in peace."
 
2012-10-23 01:51:36 PM

yoyoyo: I just listened to the Pew report from the director, Lee Rainie, here at the Internet Librarian conference in Monterey and its actually sounding pretty good. 16-29 year olds are actually reading more (yes, it may be Twilight and other crap) than previous generations as they have the access via more formats and they actually are spending more time in libraries....but they are reading. At the university I work at, a good number on on FB and the like as I watch from the reference desk, but from what I see, its a quick checkup on what everyone is doing, and then onto reading for their classes or working on projects. maybe the future isn't as doomed as I thought it was. What nobody knows is what do libraries have to do to retool in five years from now? If you know that, your the next millionaire


It depends. In a small town, libraries fight to just exist due to lack of funds and public support. In cities, libraries fight against other distractions and the internet. That's not even scratching the surface, as you can surely attest.
 
2012-10-23 03:16:26 PM
I've read dozens of books this year (never keep track) but what really slows me down is the amount of scientific literature that I read daily. A 4 page paper on chemistry will take 20 min to 1 h. A 4 page paper on chem + bio will take 4 hours because I need to research background. Plus this type of reading is much more draining than normal reading.

/28
 
2012-10-23 03:21:30 PM
I don't read very often any more, but only because once I start reading I can't do anything else until I finish. I'll read 4 hours minimum a day. Most recently read was Ready Player One, a fun read about the search for hidden easter eggs in a futuristic MMO video game based upon 1980's pop culture.

This is also where I'll plug a friends free book: "The Returners". Basically a scifi story of historical figures reincarnated in modern times being hunted and killed. It's serialized so you get a new chapter about every week. It has a similar feel to "American Gods", but is definitely it's own world.
 
2012-10-23 03:53:24 PM
Just because you don't read many books a year doesn't mean you don't read frequently. I'm not claiming to be an avid reader, but I discontinue reading a majority of books halfway through, and many are nonfiction which makes a front to finish read occasionally unnecessary.
 
2012-10-23 04:17:31 PM
For the anal-retentives in the group, I suggest GoodReads. This site gives you a place to track your reading, explore book lists and things like that.
 
2012-10-23 04:38:24 PM
I am reading more snobbery than I thought I would ever see on FARK.

All of you who seem to think reading = intelligence are just playing on an out of date stereotype.
 
2012-10-23 04:40:31 PM

ObscureNameHere: The next book "Speaker for the Dead" is a better book. Then stop reading the series, because it all goes to crap after "Speaker".


Amen to that, brother. I wish someone had warned me beforehand.
 
2012-10-23 04:47:13 PM

thebigfarker: I am reading more snobbery than I thought I would ever see on FARK.


Hey, at least you're reading.
 
2012-10-23 05:23:04 PM

naughtyrev: "America's Facebook Generation Is Reading Strong" - way to lower the bar, NPR. One book a year is not strong, it's pathetic.


Depends on who you're talking about. First, it's best to give up some myths about reading and writing.

Myth: Reading and writing are the same as hearing and speaking.

Reality: They don't even happen in the same part of the brain.

Myth: Everyone of normal intelligence can learn to read and write.

Reality: As much as 25% of the population, and perhaps more, is congenitally incapable of reading or writing well.

Myth: "No child should be left behind."

Reality: "Individual capabilities differ, and some have limits."

I was taken in when I was in my '20s by the siren song of universal literacy and a common literature. I've since learned better. Some people can't read / write very well, and it's not clear that they really need to unless they want to.*

*I learned this, in part, as a public school teacher of 32 years' tenure. I just didn't drink the kool-aid.
 
2012-10-23 05:40:46 PM

Gunny Highway: madanimalscientist: \\OSC is still a bigoted jackass

I was disappointed to learn that after finishing Ender's Game


Why do people continually expect that their hero at _______is excluded from being a moron at ______. Or just being an unserviceable, horrible, awful person generally. How many talented people are just plain weirdos otherwise, with whom I would not pass five minutes? Oh, a lot. And talent is hardly conducive to being a well-rounded person, or interesting in any way other than in their (usually rather narrow) area of brilliance. What their brilliance does is earn them kudos, money, Oscars, which generally turns them into wholly self-obsessed idiots (there are exceptions, but not many more than it takes to prove the rule).

Albert Einstein = genius at physics, also a general bounder in his personal life and hopelessly naive about world affairs and who knows what else.

Glenn Gould = genius at piano playing, but a hopeless neurotic and general tinfoil hat.

Lance Armstrong = great cyclist, also a cheat and liar.

Fill in your own candidates, you know you have them__________.
 
2012-10-23 06:16:43 PM
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\I try to read, but maybe only get through 2-3 books a year, which I know is pathetic. I'll start a book (or even buy one), put it down someplace, and forget about it. There are so many other distractions, sadly.
\Does being on FARK count as "reading"?
 
2012-10-23 06:17:26 PM
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2012-10-23 06:18:19 PM

LeafyGreens: Raug the Dwarf: sweetmelissa31: bdub77: My friend reads anywhere from 50-100 books a year.

How is it even possible to read 100 adult-sized books per year and absorb any information from them? One book every 3-4 days. Does your friend not work or do anything else?

I read a book every three to four days. Usually in the 350-400 page range.

Same for me. E-readers really make things much easier.


Amen to that. Prior to Kindle, I'd probably read 400 magazines and 15 books a year. Now that 100 books can follow me from the subway to the toilet at work, to the subway home, to the toilet at home, to bed, to the toilet in my home office, I can read 100 books a year, easy. Actually, I read over a hundred books the first year I had my Kindle and when I broke it out of warranty, Amazon sent me a new one for free because I was a good customer. Granted, I'm not always reading high literature, but I can get through a book pretty fast. I finished the last Jack Reacher novel in one day, although I did stay up until 2am to do it. I'll slow down for technical books or some more grueling non-fiction.

Women really miss out because most of them don't read on the can. You can do six, seven chapters easy if stuff has to work itself out for a while. Plus, there's no feeling of accomplishment like getting done in the bathroom and realizing that both your legs have fallen asleep. It means you got a really good read.
 
2012-10-23 06:57:32 PM

rico567: Fill in your own candidates, you know you have them__________.


I didnt expect anything of him. I was disappointed when I took 5 minutes to research him.
 
2012-10-23 07:35:46 PM

Gunny Highway: rico567: Fill in your own candidates, you know you have them__________.

I didnt expect anything of him. I was disappointed when I took 5 minutes to research him.


It's no different to the reactions I heard and read when Obama muffed the first debate: your gods must never stumble.
 
2012-10-23 07:42:48 PM

rico567: Gunny Highway: rico567: Fill in your own candidates, you know you have them__________.

I didnt expect anything of him. I was disappointed when I took 5 minutes to research him.

It's no different to the reactions I heard and read when Obama muffed the first debate: your gods must never stumble.


I think you are misinterpreting but sure.
 
2012-10-23 07:54:18 PM

Dissociater: bibli0phile: I'm not going to criticize young people for reading Twilight, or anything else, for that matter. The point is, they're reading, and if they find they enjoy it, they may move on to other books as well.

I once had a friend who said she hated to read. So I went out and bought her the trashiest bodice-ripping romance novels I could find (this being the days before erotica was mainstream enough to be widely available in book stores) and it worked. She was hooked. She eventually moved on to other genres, though she still enjoys the occasional romance novel.

It's why I don't criticize the Fifty Shades phenomenon. Same results: more people reading. And that's not a bad thing.

I generally agree, my only concern is what it teaches publishers and writers. My fear is that we get flooded with shiat (why write or publish compelling, original, quality work when you can squirt out fan-fic based on poorly written crap in the first place and make huge money?) and have a limited selection of quality to pick from. Thankfully my predictions here in the literary world have been wrong, and I hope that trend continues.

A friend of mine commented recently that there is a very large amount of modern writing which reads as if it's been written with the hopes of being optioned for TV or Film. I think the example she used was The Hunger Games. I just hope this is a passing trend.


Meh... The majority of what is published has always been crap. Same thing goes for music, movies, art, theater ...But people LIKE crap and it sells. And people who are truly gifted will continue to give us beautiful works of art and literature, which will be ignored by the majority. Same old, same old.

The only thing that's really changing is that the internet age has broken the stranglehold the publishers had over the industry. And that means more crap-- and more gems-- out on the market. I can't help but feel expanded consumer choice is a good thing.
 
2012-10-24 09:46:12 AM

bibli0phile:
The only thing that's really changing is that the internet age has broken the stranglehold the publishers had over the industry. And that means more crap-- and more gems-- out on the market. I can't help but feel expanded consumer choice is a good thing.


Except.... most authors MUST have a strong and stern editor to be / become any good.

And in the age of 'screw you, I'll do it myself!" publishing this firm guiding hand is sorely (and obviously) lacking in any 'self-published' stuff I've tried to read. The fact one's wife or girlfirend think you are 'totally, like, a brilliant writer' does not make it so.
 
2012-10-24 10:16:10 AM
Love to read, but have only read 1 book this year.

Don't watch a lot of tv, but video games on the other hand...

Last Wheel of Time book is out soon! Oh joy! January 8th needs to hurry up and come.

Then I'll just have to wait years for the next the Kingkiller Chronicles by Rothfuss (secretly hoping it'll be more than 3 books)

Not to mention a Song of Ice and Fire

Damn, I need to find some series that are already complete. Sheesh. Waiting is a biatch.
 
xcv
2012-10-24 10:23:46 AM

kemosabe: Love to read, but have only read 1 book this year.

Don't watch a lot of tv, but video games on the other hand...

Last Wheel of Time book is out soon! Oh joy! January 8th needs to hurry up and come.

Then I'll just have to wait years for the next the Kingkiller Chronicles by Rothfuss (secretly hoping it'll be more than 3 books)

Not to mention a Song of Ice and Fire

Damn, I need to find some series that are already complete. Sheesh. Waiting is a biatch.


I'm down with more Kingkiller provided the Aden don't reappear and Denna is retroactively edited out.

I highly recommend Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and the subsequent stand alone novels in the same universe for more of the (anti-)Fantasy genre.
 
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