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(Daily Mail)   The woman who sparked a debate on beauty after Facebook picture in her underwear. Warning: Picture might be considered obscene because subject is not thin. And we all know that only skinny people can show their stomachs and celebrate themselves   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 436
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2012-10-23 11:16:26 AM  

mytdawg: Maybe climbing up and down off that high horse does.


Your sense of irony could use some exercise.
 
2012-10-23 11:17:24 AM  

dragonchild: serial_crusher: What kind of "extreme measures" did she take exactly

This. Obviously she's not anorexic, so "extreme" is a matter of perspective, and hers is definitely limited. Mind you, she's really not all that bad, but her definition of "not hiding" is publicly displaying her body for shock value with a message of "mind your own business". The unwarranted self-contragulatory attitude and passive-aggressive attention whoring is a thousand times more repulsive than any stretch mark on her belly. I'd actually think she's pretty cute (I'd hit it if I was single and drunk) if not for the crazy.

Time to hit fatties with the clue bat, again: SELF-LOATHING DOES NOT COUNT AS EFFORT. If you hate yourself, that's your brain telling you to do better. Misery without effort is just wallowing.


THIS!
 
2012-10-23 11:18:07 AM  

WinoRhino: What happened with my plateau at 200 pounds was that I could no longer cut calories and run the distances I wanted. I would get into 5 miles of a 10 mile run and bonk. So I could eat enough to fuel the runs, but my weight would only be maintained and not reduced.


Are you a midget or something? Because at the average height for a male human (1.8 m) that's overweight, but not to an extent that's really worrisome in health terms (it comes out to BMI 28, where the obesity 1 line for a normal, non-athletic person is at 30).

One of the downsides of cardio is that it does tend to tell your body to lock in at its current weight beyond a certain point, actually dropping a large amount frequently requires _not_ exercising and dropping your diet in a more dramatic fashion for a month or so, then going back to your routine at the lower weight. Or, in 1980s terms, running won't generally help you burn off the pounds, but it will help you keep them off.

//Biology, ew.
 
2012-10-23 11:18:20 AM  
As long as she's pretty... really - curvy and cute beats skinny and skanky any day
 
2012-10-23 11:19:03 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: BBW was created for a reason. Just fight the right partner and he will slap your thighs and ride the wave in. Not me however, I dont dig fatties

You haven't had good sex till your laid the loving on a heavyset gal. They try much harder to please their men


False, I've been with two fatties, they were both terrible lays.
 
2012-10-23 11:19:18 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MarkEC: My wife has the opposite problem. She's constantly told by her doctor that she needs to put on some weight. She's taken radioactive Iodine to kill her thyroid and is on Synthroid, and just can't put on weight no matter how much she eats. She is constantly bombarded by people thinking they are complimenting her by saying "Oh you're so thin".

She needs to have her dosage changed.


Endo says that her dosage is correct and won't change it just to help her gain weight.
 
2012-10-23 11:19:20 AM  

Gaseous Anomaly: ChuDogg: Its very painful in the beginning but once the body's stomach shrinks down you quickly adapt. People who have trouble eating twice a day could probably be described as having food addiction, even of they are in shape and healthy.

THAT'S the point that the "put down the fork" contingent usually misses.

For me not to overeat, takes about the same amount of willpower as it would take for all of Fark to quit drinking.

I don't lack in generalized willpower. I can hold down a job just fine (as long as I can post on Fark during the workday). I can stay monogamous (admittedly I'm overweight and ugly). I can keep my finances in order (unfortunately thusly I can afford to overeat).

I COULD be skinny, in the same sense that Bill Clinton could be celibate, or Nancy Grace could be thoughtful and forgiving.


True. It's good to be honest about. Its not just overweight people. The average daily grind is very dreary and boring. So we eat. We stock up on a big hour long lunch and gather around for a big dinner. Neither of which are really required to sustain working in an office cubicle all day. Some people get overweight from it and some don't. Which is why overweight people are often in disbelief and think there is nothing they can do. Truth is it is not unhealthy to eat just one meal a day, and is more than enough to prevent "starvation mode". Emprically the metabolic swing of going on a low cal diet versus a 5-meal a day diet is only a few hundred calories, while consuming likely over a thousand calories more.

Everyone should try fasting or minifasts every once inawhile just to give themselves a reality check. Or just not give a shiat, nothing wrong with that either (as long as we're not AWing our lack of shiats given)
 
2012-10-23 11:22:57 AM  

MarkEC: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MarkEC: My wife has the opposite problem. She's constantly told by her doctor that she needs to put on some weight. She's taken radioactive Iodine to kill her thyroid and is on Synthroid, and just can't put on weight no matter how much she eats. She is constantly bombarded by people thinking they are complimenting her by saying "Oh you're so thin".

She needs to have her dosage changed.

Endo says that her dosage is correct and won't change it just to help her gain weight.


Is she also having problems with insomnia, or just getting a full nights sleep?
 
2012-10-23 11:23:37 AM  

ChuDogg: Gaseous Anomaly: ChuDogg: Its very painful in the beginning but once the body's stomach shrinks down you quickly adapt. People who have trouble eating twice a day could probably be described as having food addiction, even of they are in shape and healthy.

THAT'S the point that the "put down the fork" contingent usually misses.

For me not to overeat, takes about the same amount of willpower as it would take for all of Fark to quit drinking.

I don't lack in generalized willpower. I can hold down a job just fine (as long as I can post on Fark during the workday). I can stay monogamous (admittedly I'm overweight and ugly). I can keep my finances in order (unfortunately thusly I can afford to overeat).

I COULD be skinny, in the same sense that Bill Clinton could be celibate, or Nancy Grace could be thoughtful and forgiving.

True. It's good to be honest about. Its not just overweight people. The average daily grind is very dreary and boring. So we eat. We stock up on a big hour long lunch and gather around for a big dinner. Neither of which are really required to sustain working in an office cubicle all day. Some people get overweight from it and some don't. Which is why overweight people are often in disbelief and think there is nothing they can do. Truth is it is not unhealthy to eat just one meal a day, and is more than enough to prevent "starvation mode". Emprically the metabolic swing of going on a low cal diet versus a 5-meal a day diet is only a few hundred calories, while consuming likely over a thousand calories more.

Everyone should try fasting or minifasts every once inawhile just to give themselves a reality check. Or just not give a shiat, nothing wrong with that either (as long as we're not AWing our lack of shiats given)


I've been keeping myself to 300 calories in the morning, no more than 500 at lunch, and I tend to ignore dinner calorie counts. I've also cut soda out, and I don't drink liquor M-Th. I'm curious to see how this diet goes.

I've also taken up running via Couch 2 5K. I'm on week 4 now.
 
2012-10-23 11:23:41 AM  

The Only Jeff: theoutlaw: Anyone who argues that fat people can always lose weight instantly by eating less food- the 'calories in should be lower than calories out and then you'll definitely lose weight DUH' argument- are either the luckiest people in the world or have never, ever, read about let alone followed a calorie-based diet regime. Your metabolism slowing down because it thinks you're starving is the most important thing. Chubby chicks moving from 2000 to 1500 calories a day might, depending on genetics, put ON weight rather than lose it. Calories are good and useful, but don't you dare act like there's nothing stopping fat people from dropping 40lb by skipping lunch.

No one's arguing they can lose weight instantly. Of course it takes work. But the girl from the article was fat since she was horse-back riding. Yes, it can take months or years to lose weight depending on the obesity, but this girl has had over a decade. It may be hard, but so is not drinking when you're an alcoholic. Both people can and should be judged for it when their actions negatively affect those around them.


Sorry, but though I agree with you on specifics (i.e. that losing weight takes time and work but it's doable), I disagree with you in this way: It's ludicrous to argue that a NINE YEAR OLD could have recognised she was 'obese' and started working out and should have made progress in 10 years. I'm not sure that this woman is nineteen (finding it hard to find her age) so she may have had 'more than a decade' but jeez. I'm sorry, but fat kids can't do a bunch about it. And even if they did, this woman has been a fat kid, then she's gone into puberty, then she's dealt with her metabolism slowing down as she matures into womanhood. Yes, some people are fat kids then turn into rakes (my fourteen year old brother is doing it right now) but puberty is such a bizarre beast that you can't begin to judge this woman's 'weight journey' before her body stopped hormoning the fark out, if it even has yet.
 
2012-10-23 11:26:57 AM  

hobnail: I'd be curious as to what serial_crusher's definition of overweight is, vs. astoreth's. Marathon distances and up are pretty hard on the joints if you're 10 lbs or more overweight.

And I know it's already been said, but a 5 hr 26.2 isn't running, it's shuffling.


I'm 5'11, 205-210 lbs. Doctor says I should get it down to 190.
 
2012-10-23 11:27:32 AM  

CarrieWhite: She's a pretty one.


but not ity bity..I'd still take her for a walk..if ya know what I mean..
 
2012-10-23 11:29:43 AM  
I dig bigger gals, a tad more curvy perhaps but what the heck
personality can go a LONG way to making someone attractive.

We're all going to get ugly
hopefully we're gonna age
and let's hope we'll get someone to share those adventures with
that personality is gonna make all the difference in the world
 
2012-10-23 11:30:08 AM  
Nothing is sadder than a fat girl with a fat ass and still no tits.
 
2012-10-23 11:33:06 AM  

Girion47: ChuDogg: Gaseous Anomaly: ChuDogg: Its very painful in the beginning but once the body's stomach shrinks down you quickly adapt. People who have trouble eating twice a day could probably be described as having food addiction, even of they are in shape and healthy.

THAT'S the point that the "put down the fork" contingent usually misses.

For me not to overeat, takes about the same amount of willpower as it would take for all of Fark to quit drinking.

I don't lack in generalized willpower. I can hold down a job just fine (as long as I can post on Fark during the workday). I can stay monogamous (admittedly I'm overweight and ugly). I can keep my finances in order (unfortunately thusly I can afford to overeat).

I COULD be skinny, in the same sense that Bill Clinton could be celibate, or Nancy Grace could be thoughtful and forgiving.

True. It's good to be honest about. Its not just overweight people. The average daily grind is very dreary and boring. So we eat. We stock up on a big hour long lunch and gather around for a big dinner. Neither of which are really required to sustain working in an office cubicle all day. Some people get overweight from it and some don't. Which is why overweight people are often in disbelief and think there is nothing they can do. Truth is it is not unhealthy to eat just one meal a day, and is more than enough to prevent "starvation mode". Emprically the metabolic swing of going on a low cal diet versus a 5-meal a day diet is only a few hundred calories, while consuming likely over a thousand calories more.

Everyone should try fasting or minifasts every once inawhile just to give themselves a reality check. Or just not give a shiat, nothing wrong with that either (as long as we're not AWing our lack of shiats given)

I've been keeping myself to 300 calories in the morning, no more than 500 at lunch, and I tend to ignore dinner calorie counts. I've also cut soda out, and I don't drink liquor M-Th. I'm curious to see how this ...


Dinner might be the worst as you may end up on stocking up on calories before sleeping, offsetting any gains during the day. If you need a good meal focus on lunch, or maybe a "lunner" at like 2-3 pm.
 
2012-10-23 11:33:07 AM  
FTFA: This picture is for the strange man at my nanny's church who told me my belly was too big when I was five.
This picture is for my horseback riding trainer telling me I was too fat when I was nine.
This picture is for the girl from summer camp who told me I'd be really pretty if I just lost a few pounds


So. Fat and can't take a hint.

Incidentally, why do those "stretch marks" look like hand prints?
 
2012-10-23 11:34:29 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MarkEC: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MarkEC: My wife has the opposite problem. She's constantly told by her doctor that she needs to put on some weight. She's taken radioactive Iodine to kill her thyroid and is on Synthroid, and just can't put on weight no matter how much she eats. She is constantly bombarded by people thinking they are complimenting her by saying "Oh you're so thin".

She needs to have her dosage changed.

Endo says that her dosage is correct and won't change it just to help her gain weight.

Is she also having problems with insomnia, or just getting a full nights sleep?


She gets 8 or 9 hours a night. No signs of too much thyroid hormone.
 
2012-10-23 11:35:02 AM  

theoutlaw: It's ludicrous to argue that a NINE YEAR OLD could have recognised she was 'obese' ...


This is what childhood teasing was designed for
 
2012-10-23 11:35:52 AM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: fireclown: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark off. I like curves and a broad a$&. You can keep those stick girls. You slap one on the a$& and risk breaking their hip

I am here to verify that skinny chicks do not break in half.

And if they do, when the EMT guy shows up at the motel and cries, "My God!! How did this happen?!", you respond by dropping your trousers and waving your bloodied manhood in his face.



/thanks Seanbaby!


Mine requires a permit from the county sheriff
 
2012-10-23 11:36:39 AM  

serial_crusher: hobnail: I'd be curious as to what serial_crusher's definition of overweight is, vs. astoreth's. Marathon distances and up are pretty hard on the joints if you're 10 lbs or more overweight.

And I know it's already been said, but a 5 hr 26.2 isn't running, it's shuffling.

I'm 5'11, 205-210 lbs. Doctor says I should get it down to 190.


sounds about right. I'm 5'10" 175 and I could stand to be below 165. I also have two kids, two jobs, and a taste for bourbon. So for now I'm content with maintaining decent conditioning and living with a little extra weight.
 
2012-10-23 11:38:16 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: BolshyGreatYarblocks: fireclown: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark off. I like curves and a broad a$&. You can keep those stick girls. You slap one on the a$& and risk breaking their hip

I am here to verify that skinny chicks do not break in half.

And if they do, when the EMT guy shows up at the motel and cries, "My God!! How did this happen?!", you respond by dropping your trousers and waving your bloodied manhood in his face.



/thanks Seanbaby!

Mine requires a permit from the county sheriff


Mine has a death sentence in 12 systems.
 
2012-10-23 11:39:58 AM  

theoutlaw: Sorry, but though I agree with you on specifics (i.e. that losing weight takes time and work but it's doable), I disagree with you in this way: It's ludicrous to argue that a NINE YEAR OLD could have recognised she was 'obese' and started working out and should have made progress in 10 years. I'm not sure that this woman is nineteen (finding it hard to find her age) so she may have had 'more than a decade' but jeez. I'm sorry, but fat kids can't do a bunch about it. And even if they did, this woman has been a fat kid, then she's gone into puberty, then she's dealt with her metabolism slowing down as she matures into womanhood. Yes, some people are fat kids then turn into rakes (my fourteen year old brother is doing it right now) but puberty is such a bizarre beast that you can't begin to judge this woman's 'weight journey' before her body stopped hormoning the fark out, if ...


Self-control can be taught to a nine year old. I have sympathy for people who are healthy and then an accident or illness causes them to gain weight. That isn't their "fault." But you can only ride that excuse for so long. Regardless of how much she weighed as a child or what happened during puberty, she's in college now. She's at least 18, and even though I can't say for sure I can reasonably infer that she hasn't been doing much about her weight. Partly because she ends her rant with the statement "who was teased and tormented and hurt just for being who she was." Like that justifies being that way. If you don't like being teased for being fat, lose the weight. If you don't like being excluded from the fancy parties, stop getting stumbling down drunk. If you don't like being kept away from your family functions, stop smoking. You cannot say that just because you've been making poor choices all your life that those choices are an indelible part of your being.
 
2012-10-23 11:44:11 AM  

Girion47: Mid_mo_mad_man: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: BBW was created for a reason. Just fight the right partner and he will slap your thighs and ride the wave in. Not me however, I dont dig fatties

You haven't had good sex till your laid the loving on a heavyset gal. They try much harder to please their men

False, I've been with two fatties, they were both terrible lays.


In my experience plus size gals try harder Btw you called them fatties but still gave them the pipe? That's an a-hole move
 
2012-10-23 11:45:17 AM  

orbister: FTFA: This picture is for the strange man at my nanny's church who told me my belly was too big when I was five.
This picture is for my horseback riding trainer telling me I was too fat when I was nine.
This picture is for the girl from summer camp who told me I'd be really pretty if I just lost a few pounds

So. Fat and can't take a hint.

Incidentally, why do those "stretch marks" look like hand prints?


See above somewhere.....something about a skinny guy getting stuck or a meal trying to get out. I laughed
 
2012-10-23 11:47:36 AM  

Ball Zitch: Mid_mo_mad_man: BolshyGreatYarblocks: fireclown: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark off. I like curves and a broad a$&. You can keep those stick girls. You slap one on the a$& and risk breaking their hip

I am here to verify that skinny chicks do not break in half.

And if they do, when the EMT guy shows up at the motel and cries, "My God!! How did this happen?!", you respond by dropping your trousers and waving your bloodied manhood in his face.



/thanks Seanbaby!

Mine requires a permit from the county sheriff

Mine has a death sentence in 12 systems.


I once pulled a drowning man to safety with mine
 
2012-10-23 11:47:53 AM  

ChuDogg: Dinner might be the worst as you may end up on stocking up on calories before sleeping, offsetting any gains during the day. If you need a good meal focus on lunch, or maybe a "lunner" at like 2-3 pm.


Meal timing doesn't actually matter. If you eat a meal at 3 pm or eat that same meal at 10 pm right before bed, it doesn't make a difference. Your body doesn't handle it any differently.

theoutlaw: Anyone who argues that fat people can always lose weight instantly by eating less food- the 'calories in should be lower than calories out and then you'll definitely lose weight DUH' argument- are either the luckiest people in the world or have never, ever, read about let alone followed a calorie-based diet regime. Your metabolism slowing down because it thinks you're starving is the most important thing. Chubby chicks moving from 2000 to 1500 calories a day might, depending on genetics, put ON weight rather than lose it. Calories are good and useful, but don't you dare act like there's nothing stopping fat people from dropping 40lb by skipping lunch.


The thing is, starvation mode is not that easy to get to. You have to be eating at a pretty big deficient (>500 calories at the bare minimum, for the vast majority of people, especially overweight people, it is a lot larger than that) for several weeks before it sets in. And if you exercise while in starvation mode, you certainly won't gain weight. An overweight going from 2000 to 1500 won't go into starvation mode for a long, long, long time because they already have fat stored up. If you are 500 cal below maintenance and not stick-thin already, you won't get into starvation mode. The problem is that people try to lose weight by going into huge deficits, i.e. 3000 calorie maintenance and eating 500 calories a day, which does lead to "starvation mode", thinking it will go faster if they do.

There is no reason you cannot lose weight. Stop making excuses.
 
2012-10-23 12:00:18 PM  
I eat one grape and I feel bloated all day. I wish I could pack down the food like some of these fatties with BMIs in the high teens, but my mother wasn't crossbred with a mud wallowing pig. The most food you need to eat a day is a thin slice of whole grain bread and a little bit of dew that you can get by licking the grass. No wonder you people are so disgusting.
 
2012-10-23 12:02:01 PM  
To the people making the "2nd Law of Thermodynamics" argument, you need to just stop. You sound like a creationist that doesn't understand either the law or how/where it is actually applicable to physical systems. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is NOT directly applicable to an active organism that is governed by complex biochemical processes, especially when the goal is something as highly SPECIFIC as health and adipose tissue reduction.

Fat tissue is not subject to the whims and desires of the consciousness of the person whose body it is in, nor is it a passive storage point for excess energy. It is innervated, active tissue that can demand more Calories at the expense of the organism as a whole. There is a strain of rats used in obesity research, called Zucker Rats, whose fat tissue is SO GREEDY that they will actually starve to death fat. Their bodies will consume their critical organ tissue (heart, liver, etc) before it will use those fat reserves for energy.

A similar condition can and does happen to people through a combination of genetics and a diet that has screwed up hormone signaling, sometimes permanently. If someone has the unfortunate double whammy of poor genetics and an unhealthy upbringing (raised on processed/junk food and poor education) then they are in for a grueling time when it comes to healthy weight loss, through no fault of their own.

Giving horrible advice, such as starving yourself, which is what you are doing when you are hungry but not eating, is terrible and counter-productive. Bodybuilders and athletes with weight classes (weightlifting, wrestling, etc.) often undergo purposeful calorie deficits for very short periods of time, even these extremely dedicated athletes with iron wills find the task near impossible, and certainly cannot maintain it for any length of time required to lose significant amounts of weight. Bodybuilders especially often end up causing themselves physical and psychological damage.

Obesity is America is a large-scale, public health issue and it is fueled by cheap corn and companies feeding highly processed non-food to the population, which in turn screws up their metabolism making them sick and causing their bodies to store more fat than they otherwise would. The only real solution involves the entire society, but each of us can do our part by eating real, healthy, unprocessed food.

/running long slow distances (e.g. marathons) isn't really that good for you and also isn't a good exercise for losing fat
// "Input < Output" is bad and incorrect advice
 
2012-10-23 12:05:13 PM  
Here's the major difference between fatties & smokers (to all you people talking

Oafmeel: [i1245.photobucket.com image 533x312] approves.
...and so do I.

CSB time:
ex GF has a father who is super critical of her weight. When he tried the same act on me, I told him with a straight face that (a) weight and physical form aren't character flaws, and (b) and if he really thought so, he could eat a bag of dicks for all I cared. We got along just fine after that. Sometimes, you just need to put someone in their place & get on with your own life.
/CSB


Yeah, problem is there aren't any fat chicks in that Sir-Mix-A-Lot video... just girls with big butts. This girl is overweight and probably getting close to obese. Being fat is not cool. This society of complacency and acceptance is what's turning us into fatties in the first place.
 
2012-10-23 12:06:35 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Ball Zitch: Mid_mo_mad_man: BolshyGreatYarblocks: fireclown: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark off. I like curves and a broad a$&. You can keep those stick girls. You slap one on the a$& and risk breaking their hip

I am here to verify that skinny chicks do not break in half.

And if they do, when the EMT guy shows up at the motel and cries, "My God!! How did this happen?!", you respond by dropping your trousers and waving your bloodied manhood in his face.



/thanks Seanbaby!

Mine requires a permit from the county sheriff

Mine has a death sentence in 12 systems.

I once pulled a drowning man to safety with mine


content8.flixster.com
 
2012-10-23 12:11:56 PM  

Beta Tested: To the people making the "2nd Law of Thermodynamics" argument, you need to just stop. You sound like a creationist that doesn't understand either the law or how/where it is actually applicable to physical systems. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is NOT directly applicable to an active organism that is governed by complex biochemical processes, especially when the goal is something as highly SPECIFIC as health and adipose tissue reduction.

Fat tissue is not subject to the whims and desires of the consciousness of the person whose body it is in, nor is it a passive storage point for excess energy. It is innervated, active tissue that can demand more Calories at the expense of the organism as a whole. There is a strain of rats used in obesity research, called Zucker Rats, whose fat tissue is SO GREEDY that they will actually starve to death fat. Their bodies will consume their critical organ tissue (heart, liver, etc) before it will use those fat reserves for energy.

A similar condition can and does happen to people through a combination of genetics and a diet that has screwed up hormone signaling, sometimes permanently. If someone has the unfortunate double whammy of poor genetics and an unhealthy upbringing (raised on processed/junk food and poor education) then they are in for a grueling time when it comes to healthy weight loss, through no fault of their own.

Giving horrible advice, such as starving yourself, which is what you are doing when you are hungry but not eating, is terrible and counter-productive. Bodybuilders and athletes with weight classes (weightlifting, wrestling, etc.) often undergo purposeful calorie deficits for very short periods of time, even these extremely dedicated athletes with iron wills find the task near impossible, and certainly cannot maintain it for any length of time required to lose significant amounts of weight. Bodybuilders especially often end up causing themselves physical and psychological damage.

Obesity is America is ...


No, the second law of thermodynamics does apply to obesity. If you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight. The energy has to come from somewhere. If a person is eating at a deficit and truly not losing weight, they should see a physicist because our energy problems can be solved.

And I laughed about the weight classes athletes part. Typically they don't "go hungry" except for the day of weigh in; you know why? It would destroy their energy and strength for competition. They eat at a deficit, but not to the point where they go hungry. They work out a lot leading up to competition, which burns calories and fat, and then a few days before weigh ins they cut out sodium and carbs (to lose glycogen and retain less water) and dehydrate themselves what they need to in order to make weight. They only "starve" themselves the day of weigh in, and that is so that the weight of the food in their stomachs doesn't make them miss weight.

Agreed about long distance running, though.
 
2012-10-23 12:17:39 PM  
Fat people are ugly because it's unhealthy.
Isn't it a little unhealthy to vehemently berate women on the Internet just because they don't arouse you?
 
2012-10-23 12:19:38 PM  

Beta Tested: There is a strain of rats used in obesity research, called Zucker Rats, whose fat tissue is SO GREEDY that they will actually starve to death fat. Their bodies will consume their critical organ tissue (heart, liver, etc) before it will use those fat reserves for energy.


(Citation Needed)
 
2012-10-23 12:21:46 PM  

The Only Jeff: Beta Tested: There is a strain of rats used in obesity research, called Zucker Rats, whose fat tissue is SO GREEDY that they will actually starve to death fat. Their bodies will consume their critical organ tissue (heart, liver, etc) before it will use those fat reserves for energy.

(Citation Needed)


There are Zucker rats, but they were specifically bred and genetically mutated to be super fat... I don't think they starve to death before using fat reserves for energy, though, and if they do, there's no way that is natural since from an evolutionary standpoint, it'd be certain death for a species.
 
2012-10-23 12:23:13 PM  

machoprogrammer: The Only Jeff: Beta Tested: There is a strain of rats used in obesity research, called Zucker Rats, whose fat tissue is SO GREEDY that they will actually starve to death fat. Their bodies will consume their critical organ tissue (heart, liver, etc) before it will use those fat reserves for energy.

(Citation Needed)

There are Zucker rats, but they were specifically bred and genetically mutated to be super fat... I don't think they starve to death before using fat reserves for energy, though, and if they do, there's no way that is natural since from an evolutionary standpoint, it'd be certain death for a species.


Right. I know they exist, but a quick Google search didn't reveal that their bodies would kill them before letting them be skinny.
 
2012-10-23 12:39:28 PM  

The Only Jeff: (Citation Needed)

There are Zucker rats, but they were specifically bred and genetically mutated to be super fat... I don't think they starve to death before using fat reserves for energy, though, and if they do, there's no way that is natural since from an evolutionary standpoint, it'd be certain death for a species.

Right. I know they exist, but a quick Google search didn't reveal that their bodies would kill them before letting them be skinny.


I was slightly mis-remembering, but my point still stands, I read it in "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Basically Zucker rats lose fat as they starve to death but less than normal rats, and they still die pretty fat when compared to normal rats. There were some other interesting things I had forgotten about as well, for example:

"What's more, as Greenwood reported, these semi-starved Zucker rats had 50 percent less muscle mass than genetically lean rats, and 30 percent less muscle mass than the Zucker rats that ate as much as they wanted. They, too, were sacrificing their muscles and organs to make fat."

Go to Good-Calories-Bad-Calories-Gary-Taubes and search "Zucker Rats", bunch of good stuff.

The point is, and my point still stands, is that healthily losing weight is not "eat less", but much more complex than that, and you might do more harm than good by just "eating less".
 
2012-10-23 12:39:42 PM  

FarkinHostile: astoreth: Because it doesn't work for everyone. I have overweight runner friends who have completed marathons and eat right, and they never lose the weight. Some people are going to be pudgy no matter what, just like some people can wolf down all the junk and pizza they like, never exercise, and still be skinny as rails.



Stop it with that farking bullshiat. The Law of Thermodynamics doesn't change for fat people. Number of calories taken in vs. number of calories burned. It is that simple.


Actually, it does in a way. Did you know that, if you weighed 300 lbs and lost half of that so that you weighed 150 lbs, you would always have to eat less than someone who always weighed 150 lbs in order to maintain the same weight?
Everyone likes to think it is as simple as cutting a couple hundred calories a day and taking a 30 minute walk and, voila, you will be skinny. It isn't, and there's a shiat-ton of research that demonstrates that.
 
2012-10-23 12:41:20 PM  

steppenwolf: Fat people are ugly because it's unhealthy.
Isn't it a little unhealthy to vehemently berate women on the Internet just because they don't arouse you?


No actually studies have shown that berating fat attention whores on the internet is very good for you.

Fark alone has saved 100's of lives.

Pity that you are wasting yours, Shamu..... (Oh yeah, feel the burn! now I can skip my run tonight. I feel like a 100 dollars!)
 
2012-10-23 12:48:17 PM  
fingers like Vienna sausages
 
2012-10-23 12:48:43 PM  

Beta Tested: I was slightly mis-remembering, but my point still stands, I read it in "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Basically Zucker rats lose fat as they starve to death but less than normal rats, and they still die pretty fat when compared to normal rats. There were some other interesting things I had forgotten about as well, for example:

"What's more, as Greenwood reported, these semi-starved Zucker rats had 50 percent less muscle mass than genetically lean rats, and 30 percent less muscle mass than the Zucker rats that ate as much as they wanted. They, too, were sacrificing their muscles and organs to make fat."

Go to Good-Calories-Bad-Calories-Gary-Taubes and search "Zucker Rats", bunch of good stuff.

The point is, and my point still stands, is that healthily losing weight is not "eat less", but much more complex than that, and you might do more harm than good by just "eating less".


Healthy weight is attained by eating less and reasonable exercise. It may take years, but it is attainable. And skinniness isn't even necessarily the goal, not being obese like the woman from the article is.
 
2012-10-23 12:49:50 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Girion47: Mid_mo_mad_man: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: BBW was created for a reason. Just fight the right partner and he will slap your thighs and ride the wave in. Not me however, I dont dig fatties

You haven't had good sex till your laid the loving on a heavyset gal. They try much harder to please their men

False, I've been with two fatties, they were both terrible lays.

In my experience plus size gals try harder Btw you called them fatties but still gave them the pipe? That's an a-hole move


Is it? We were both drunk, they weren't expecting anything more than getting laid. what's the big deal?
 
2012-10-23 12:51:53 PM  

ChuDogg: Girion47: ChuDogg: Gaseous Anomaly: ChuDogg: Its very painful in the beginning but once the body's stomach shrinks down you quickly adapt. People who have trouble eating twice a day could probably be described as having food addiction, even of they are in shape and healthy.

THAT'S the point that the "put down the fork" contingent usually misses.

For me not to overeat, takes about the same amount of willpower as it would take for all of Fark to quit drinking.

I don't lack in generalized willpower. I can hold down a job just fine (as long as I can post on Fark during the workday). I can stay monogamous (admittedly I'm overweight and ugly). I can keep my finances in order (unfortunately thusly I can afford to overeat).

I COULD be skinny, in the same sense that Bill Clinton could be celibate, or Nancy Grace could be thoughtful and forgiving.

True. It's good to be honest about. Its not just overweight people. The average daily grind is very dreary and boring. So we eat. We stock up on a big hour long lunch and gather around for a big dinner. Neither of which are really required to sustain working in an office cubicle all day. Some people get overweight from it and some don't. Which is why overweight people are often in disbelief and think there is nothing they can do. Truth is it is not unhealthy to eat just one meal a day, and is more than enough to prevent "starvation mode". Emprically the metabolic swing of going on a low cal diet versus a 5-meal a day diet is only a few hundred calories, while consuming likely over a thousand calories more.

Everyone should try fasting or minifasts every once inawhile just to give themselves a reality check. Or just not give a shiat, nothing wrong with that either (as long as we're not AWing our lack of shiats given)

I've been keeping myself to 300 calories in the morning, no more than 500 at lunch, and I tend to ignore dinner calorie counts. I've also cut soda out, and I don't drink liquor M-Th. I'm curious to see ...


I'm not stocking up on Calories at dinner. It's below 1200 calories, whatever I eat. My aim each day is about 1700 calories. If I get up to 2100, it isn't a big deal. I'm running on MWF and drinking only water and a cup of black coffee at most.
 
2012-10-23 12:53:26 PM  

Girion47: Mid_mo_mad_man: Girion47: Mid_mo_mad_man: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: BBW was created for a reason. Just fight the right partner and he will slap your thighs and ride the wave in. Not me however, I dont dig fatties

You haven't had good sex till your laid the loving on a heavyset gal. They try much harder to please their men

False, I've been with two fatties, they were both terrible lays.

In my experience plus size gals try harder Btw you called them fatties but still gave them the pipe? That's an a-hole move

Is it? We were both drunk, they weren't expecting anything more than getting laid. what's the big deal?


Respect the pu$&y no matter the source. The lady folk talk
 
2012-10-23 12:53:47 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Almost invariably, whenever some story like this breaks, scores of women - both thin and fat - decry the fact that women are judged on their appearance, and declare "women of ALL sizes are beautiful" etc, ad nauseum.

They are, of course, rank hypocrites of the highest order, and the best way to stop them dead in their tracks is to ask them, if they really believe that "all sizes are beautiful" why they never have dated a fat man.

It's one kind of hypocrisy coming from thin women, who (and this is perfectly acceptable) date and fark men similarly physically fit, yet it's another one entirely when these same plus-sized women haven't and won't, themselves, date a plus size man.

Offsetting penalties, replay the down.


My wife dated a fat guy, and hated it. He was disgusting. I've hooked up with fat chicks and had a roommate that had a fetish for them, they were nasty as well.

Not sure why it's a bad thing to not enjoy human beings that look unnatural.
 
2012-10-23 12:56:45 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Sleeping Monkey: Normalizing obesity in our society does far more harm than good. It should never be seen as acceptable to be fat. You aren't born fat, you become fat through sloth and poor dietary choices. It's good to have self-esteem, but put down the soda and go for a walk.

Fark off. I like curves and a broad a$&. You can keep those stick girls. You slap one on the a$& and risk breaking their hip


Why do people always pull that crap when you say you don't find fat girls attractive? Why do the chubby chasers start screaming about how if you don't like fatties you must be lusting after those models who look like heroin addicts and would fall through a crack in the floor. Why do they have to go to the other extreme? Well let me tell you chubby chasers something, I don't find the facebook girls body attractive, and I don't find Kate Moss body attractive either. Here's a little something more my style.
jumpingjaxfitness.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-23 12:58:06 PM  

The Only Jeff: Healthy weight is attained by eating less and reasonable exercise. It may take years, but it is attainable. And skinniness isn't even necessarily the goal, not being obese like the woman from the article is.


Except this is wrong, healthy weight is achieved by eating the RIGHT foods, ones that don't mess up your hormone signaling. You can "eat less" and still gain weight, this is poor advice.

You CAN gain weight by force-feeding yourself healthy food, but that is as difficult as losing weight by starving yourself on the wrong foods. Organisms are amazingly homeostatic, they WANT to be their "correct weight", and will fight to stay that way... that is unless you interrupt, damage or destroy the mechanisms used to do this.
 
2012-10-23 12:59:13 PM  
I'd hit it.
 
2012-10-23 12:59:30 PM  

machoprogrammer: peachfish: People come in different sizes and this "if only they would put down the fork" mentality is a load of shiat.
I'm quite healthy. I have great blood pressure, good cholesterol, decent endurance for someone with asthma (allergy relayed). I used to go to the gym 5 days a week, but now that I have 2 small children I don't have time. Instead, I take the stairs at work all day; I try to get a minimum of 20 floors a day minimum. I never eat fast food, I mostly cook from scratch. I watch portion sizes and track my carbs and calories most days. I dont drink sugary drinks, or even most diet drinks. I'm 5ft 6 inches tall and I weigh 205, no matter what I do. But tell me some more how I'm lazy and all I do is eat junk food and soda and my poor health is costing you money, cause we fat people just haven't heard that enough.

Sorry, you follow the laws of thermodynamics like everyone else in the universe. 20 floors a day isn't exactly a lot when it comes to calorie burning or cardio (maybe if you are sprinting all 20 floors consecutively, then it might). I guarantee you that your diet is the cause of it -- either you are eating too much or too little (and thus, starvation mode). Weigh your food (always go by weight, not volume), figure out your TDEE, and eat 500 calories less than it.

WinoRhino: I went to get a physical 6 months ago. Doc comes in, looks at the chart, and says, "According to my chart here, you're well into the obese classification." He suggested I get more exercise. Two days previous I ran a 10 mile road race and normally run between 15-20 miles each week around a 9 / mile pace. I've done 42 half marathons and 8 full marathons in the last 10 years, and even with all that training I never dropped below 200 pounds (I'm 5'10") which still makes me "obese" on the charts. So yeah, I care fark-all about charts and classifications.

I am guessing you are eating too much then. You follow the laws of thermodynamics just like everything else in our universe. Running actually doesn't burn that many calories (130 calories per mile). So if you ran 10 miles, that is 1300 calories, or roughly 2 big macs.


But wait, according to "the laws of thermodynamics" the idea of "starvation mode" doesn't exist. You can't say it's "calories in versus calories out" and then start adding exceptions, unless you acknowledge it's a lot more complicated.
Incidentally, I eat about 1600 calories a day (keep in mind I'm also nursing a baby).
Likely the big difference for me is that I once weighed 70 lbs more than I do now. My metabolism has been permanently altered and to lose more weight I would likely need to drop my calories even lower. Tell me how long you would last or how good you would feel on say, 1400 calories a day plus exercise and (in my case) lactating? And we wonder why people "fail" at diets.
My ultimate point here is, when you look st someone who is fat you THINK you know a lot about them, but you really know nothing.
 
2012-10-23 01:03:56 PM  
Those are some sexy stretchmarks.
 
2012-10-23 01:05:33 PM  

Beta Tested: The Only Jeff: Healthy weight is attained by eating less and reasonable exercise. It may take years, but it is attainable. And skinniness isn't even necessarily the goal, not being obese like the woman from the article is.

Except this is wrong, healthy weight is achieved by eating the RIGHT foods, ones that don't mess up your hormone signaling. You can "eat less" and still gain weight, this is poor advice.

You CAN gain weight by force-feeding yourself healthy food, but that is as difficult as losing weight by starving yourself on the wrong foods. Organisms are amazingly homeostatic, they WANT to be their "correct weight", and will fight to stay that way... that is unless you interrupt, damage or destroy the mechanisms used to do this.


Eating less...of the wrong foods.
 
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