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(Talking Points Memo)   Romney: "We can't kill our way out of this mess." When asked about Iran, Romney later stated "We can totally kill our way into that mess"   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 32
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2012-10-23 10:18:36 AM
As someone in another thread said, this Romney campaign has truly become a grand experiment to see if someone can win an election with absolutely no principles or beliefs. I have absolutely NO idea what Romney would do if it was up to him if he was elected.
 
2012-10-23 10:35:39 AM

DamnYankees: As someone in another thread said, this Romney campaign has truly become a grand experiment to see if someone can win an election with absolutely no principles or beliefs. I have absolutely NO idea what Romney would do if it was up to him if he was elected.


I'm not sure either, certainly not from the conflicting statements he has made; but he has a bunch of Bush neo-con advisers lined up. That's what concerns me the most about Romney, that we'll soon be embroiled in another pointless war.
 
2012-10-23 10:36:43 AM

St_Francis_P: DamnYankees: As someone in another thread said, this Romney campaign has truly become a grand experiment to see if someone can win an election with absolutely no principles or beliefs. I have absolutely NO idea what Romney would do if it was up to him if he was elected.

I'm not sure either, certainly not from the conflicting statements he has made; but he has a bunch of Bush neo-con advisers lined up. That's what concerns me the most about Romney, that we'll soon be embroiled in another pointless war.


He also has a GOP House and a possibly GOP senate (and at the very least, a bunch of Blue Dogs he can easily flip to get a majority there). And there's absolutely no reason to believe Romney would stand up to the GOP House, which is batshiat insane.
 
2012-10-23 10:38:37 AM
I wonder how the base feels about a Republican candidate who doesn't act like he's going to blow up the universe (even if its just for a 5 minute Mitt-Flop)
 
2012-10-23 10:38:57 AM
Peace! He said peace subby. Romney is the President of Peace.
 
2012-10-23 10:39:44 AM
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/when Romney goes to war with Iran, it will be with a draft of your loved ones (not his). Iran is FOUR TIMES LARGER than Iraq and we put 1.5 million military personnel into Iraq. And a draft is the last thing a volunteer forces needs. It will ruin our military.
 
2012-10-23 10:43:56 AM
I was hoping the video in the link had the 2nd part to the headline...

/dejected...
 
2012-10-23 10:44:46 AM
I'm still surprised that people are still falling for the "in only X years Iran will have a nuke." It's a friggen broken record.
 
2012-10-23 10:46:05 AM

St_Francis_P: DamnYankees: As someone in another thread said, this Romney campaign has truly become a grand experiment to see if someone can win an election with absolutely no principles or beliefs. I have absolutely NO idea what Romney would do if it was up to him if he was elected.

I'm not sure either, certainly not from the conflicting statements he has made; but he has a bunch of Bush neo-con advisers lined up. That's what concerns me the most about Romney, that we'll soon be embroiled in another pointless war.


That's how I feel especially after the Iraq-war-esque-lying his running mate was spewing in the vp debate.
 
2012-10-23 10:47:25 AM
ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.
 
2012-10-23 10:47:25 AM

azazyel: I'm still surprised that people are still falling for the "in only X years Iran will have a nuke." It's a friggen broken record.


That they might possibly get a nuke maybe at some point probably in a certain number of years in the future is the greatest threat to America.
 
2012-10-23 10:49:23 AM

DamnYankees: As someone in another thread said, this Romney campaign has truly become a grand experiment to see if someone can win an election with absolutely no principles or beliefs. I have absolutely NO idea what Romney would do if it was up to him if he was elected.


That's why he will have the neocons in his cabinet... To tell him what to do
 
2012-10-23 10:49:24 AM

KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.


See, this is just liberal distortion, taking things out of context. In the first quote, he's clearly talking about al Qaeda and the geopolitical issues that come with pursuing a non-state actor across sovereign lines. It's one thing when the country is consenting, but when you look at, say, Pakistan where even asking consent is a massive security leak, you must be very careful and oftentimes raw killing is not an ideal option. In the second quite, Romney is pretty clearly talking about poor people who get sick.
 
2012-10-23 10:49:40 AM
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Bear cavalry 2012
 
2012-10-23 10:50:04 AM
If there's a mess we can't kill, we haven't found it and killed it yet.
 
2012-10-23 10:51:54 AM

azazyel: I'm still surprised that people are still falling for the "in only X years Iran will have a nuke." It's a friggen broken record.


Hell, it's not even that. His line is "Iran's 4 years closer to having a nuke."

It's true, in the same way it's true to say "Under Obama's watch, the Sun is 4 years closer to expanding into a red giant* and destroying the Earth". It's a factually correct statement, and anyone with an ounce of critical thinking ability can also see what a weasel-filled load of crap it is.

*Or whatever the Sun' going to become when it expands and destroys the inner planets.
 
2012-10-23 10:55:59 AM
Republicans 2001-2008: Kill every Arab we can!

Republicans after Obama kills Bin Laden: What's with all the fighting all the time?

You seriously can't make this shiat up.

Republicans forget strength and wisdom are not opposing values. It's not nessascary to invade entire countries, get thousands of American kids killed, all in order to... Well, that's the point. Nothing comes of it. Conventional wars have been over since Korea. Vietnam should have been proof enough. You don't win anything that way - you just get kids killed.

Clinton helped end the war in the Balkins without losing an American life. Obama had Bin Laden killed without invading a single country or losing an American life. Ghaddafi was toppled without us invading or losing an American life.

This idea of a WWII level army crashing on our enemies' shores and crushing them is over. It's dead. Go ahead, invade. Then get bogged down in occupying a country where you can't tell enemy from foe - soilders keep getting blown up from unseens, and the world starts to hate you. It's over. It doesn't work, and hasn't for a long time.

Strength and wisdom are not opposing values.
 
2012-10-23 11:00:35 AM

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.

See, this is just liberal distortion, taking things out of context. In the first quote, he's clearly talking about al Qaeda and the geopolitical issues that come with pursuing a non-state actor across sovereign lines. It's one thing when the country is consenting, but when you look at, say, Pakistan where even asking consent is a massive security leak, you must be very careful and oftentimes raw killing is not an ideal option. In the second quite, Romney is pretty clearly talking about poor people who get sick.


Heh, well, they are on the same topic. First Romney says that we need a strategy, then Obama asks him what his strategy is, then Romney says what his strategy is.

ROMNEY: " And - and we're going to have to recognize that we have to do as the president has done. I congratulate him on - on taking out Osama bin Laden and going after the leadership in al-Qaeda.

But we can't kill our way out of this mess. We're going to have to put in place a very comprehensive and robust strategy to help the - the world of Islam and other parts of the world, reject this radical violent extremism, which is - it's certainly not on the run. It's certainly not hiding. This is a group that is now involved in 10 or 12 countries, and it presents an enormous threat to our friends, to the world, to America, long term, and we must have a comprehensive strategy to help reject this kind of extremism."

(Then Obama asks Romney what his strategy would be)
OBAMA: Now that represents the opportunity we have to take advantage of. And, you know, Governor Romney, I'm glad that you agree that we have been successful in going after Al Qaida, but I have to tell you that, you know, your strategy previously has been one that has been all over the map and is not designed to keep Americans safe or to build on the opportunities that exist in the Middle East.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.
 
2012-10-23 11:02:13 AM
Didn't Romney say that Assad had to go, but wouldn't commit US troops to do it?
 
2012-10-23 11:04:42 AM

KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.


It's almost as if he has a team of monkeys studying the positive/negative reaction of the populous to everything he says, then he immediately adjusts his position accordingly.

When he said "We will absolutely be out of Afghanistan in 2014!"
I dang near fell off the couch. . . ok, I was pretty drunk at the time, but still
 
2012-10-23 11:13:05 AM

enry: Didn't Romney say that Assad had to go, but wouldn't commit US troops to do it?


If he went himself, I'd vote for him.
 
2012-10-23 11:15:43 AM

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.

See, this is just liberal distortion, taking things out of context. In the first quote, he's clearly talking about al Qaeda and the geopolitical issues that come with pursuing a non-state actor across sovereign lines. It's one thing when the country is consenting, but when you look at, say, Pakistan where even asking consent is a massive security leak, you must be very careful and oftentimes raw killing is not an ideal option. In the second quite, Romney is pretty clearly talking about poor people who get sick.


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2012-10-23 11:16:52 AM
Let's cover the geopolitical situation once again. There are four major power blocks in Iran:
The religious groups and their civilian enforcers
The "elected" government
The military
The populace

These four groups are not friends. Yes, even though the President is mostly appointed by the Mullahs, the government and the religious leadership are constantly sniping at each other for advantage. Iran has been undergoing a slow-motion civil war for decades. The status quo has only been maintained because of the brutal memories of the last revolution and the Iran-Iraq war that followed. The only thing that can make these four enemies work together is a common, external enemy. The US and Israel keep giving them one.

In short, stop the saber rattling and the people of Iran will do your work for you. If you really must do anything, start by helping Iranian citizens stay anonymous on the Internet.
 
2012-10-23 11:18:36 AM
The GOP puppet masters in the military industrial complex did not like his statement about not killing brown people....it's bad for business.
 
2012-10-23 11:22:27 AM

KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.


That's only a conflict if you assume that he wants us out of that mess. It makes perfect sense from the point of view of his neocon advisors, who would have us in the middle east forever.
 
2012-10-23 11:24:49 AM

RedPhoenix122: enry: Didn't Romney say that Assad had to go, but wouldn't commit US troops to do it?

If he went himself, I'd vote for him.


Then we'd be left with Paul Ryan.
 
2012-10-23 11:36:32 AM
He also said he's against the Muslim Brotherhood's rise to power in Egypt then less than 10 minutes later said we have to hold free and fair elections in the Middle East.

He's a pandering clown. This race should not be close. In a world without Fox News brainwashing, it wouldn't be.
 
2012-10-23 11:42:39 AM
We can't just kill our way out of this. We're gonna need to start torturing again, too.
 
2012-10-23 11:48:46 AM

t3knomanser: Let's cover the geopolitical situation once again. There are four major power blocks in Iran:
The religious groups and their civilian enforcers
The "elected" government
The military
The populace

These four groups are not friends. Yes, even though the President is mostly appointed by the Mullahs, the government and the religious leadership are constantly sniping at each other for advantage. Iran has been undergoing a slow-motion civil war for decades. The status quo has only been maintained because of the brutal memories of the last revolution and the Iran-Iraq war that followed. The only thing that can make these four enemies work together is a common, external enemy. The US and Israel keep giving them one.

In short, stop the saber rattling and the people of Iran will do your work for you. If you really must do anything, start by helping Iranian citizens stay anonymous on the Internet.


Get out of here with your sense making! Jesus.
 
2012-10-23 11:51:53 AM

LarryDan43: azazyel: I'm still surprised that people are still falling for the "in only X years Iran will have a nuke." It's a friggen broken record.

That they might possibly get a nuke maybe at some point probably in a certain number of years in the future is the greatest threat to America.


I always come back to this article written in 2007 when the hype was once again up on Iran.

"Not that they will do so with nuclear weapons any time soon. Iran is rather bad at grand projects. Its sole nuclear power station has never produced a watt of electricity in more than three decades, the capital's TV tower is unfinished after 20 years of work and Tehran's airport took 30 years to build."


Article Here
 
2012-10-23 12:16:58 PM

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: ROMNEY: But we can't kill our way out of this mess.

ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to - to kill them, to take them out of the picture.

See, this is just liberal distortion, taking things out of context. In the first quote, he's clearly talking about al Qaeda and the geopolitical issues that come with pursuing a non-state actor across sovereign lines. It's one thing when the country is consenting, but when you look at, say, Pakistan where even asking consent is a massive security leak, you must be very careful and oftentimes raw killing is not an ideal option. In the second quite, Romney is pretty clearly talking about poor people who get sick.


Your medal, sir.

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2012-10-23 11:48:04 PM
If Romney wins, the rest of the world will once again have their beliefs confirmed. America is indeed more than 50% filled with complete idiots.
 
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