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(Mother Nature Network)   A year after his awesome synchronized Halloween light display went viral, a California man's home is dark this year. Why? C) HOA (w/video of 2011 Halloween display)   (mnn.com) divider line 86
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2012-10-23 04:12:09 AM
I'd act surprised, but my HOA won't let me do that either.
 
2012-10-23 04:40:55 AM
As awesome as that is, I'd take out my shotgun for those window zombies if I lived across the street.
 
2012-10-23 04:42:09 AM
Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.
 
2012-10-23 05:05:23 AM

Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.


One of my personal favorite holiday light displays is from Frisco, Texas. They also used music by TSO. Christmas Lights - Wizards in Winter
 
2012-10-23 05:08:52 AM
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

His Thriller display was one of the most amazing things in human history.
 
2012-10-23 05:11:58 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.

One of my personal favorite holiday light displays is from Frisco, Texas. They also used music by TSO. Christmas Lights - Wizards in Winter


I like how he and the guy from Mason got together and compared notes and went.. Lets make it MORE AWESOME BY OUR POWERS COMBINED... instead of getting all pissy on each other.
 
2012-10-23 05:16:39 AM
farking wet blankets. I'd live next door to that shiat.

Bunch of dried up old coonts were the ones biatching to the HOA, I guarantee it.
 
2012-10-23 05:18:06 AM
We were in talks with the city to work out a plan to make the show run smoother and not be a burden on the neighbors like traffic control, porta-potties, trash collectors, police presents, etc. Now none if it is needed.

That was nice of him to think about the police like that :-)
 
2012-10-23 05:18:16 AM

fiver5: farking wet blankets. I'd live next door to that shiat.

Bunch of dried up old coonts were the ones biatching to the HOA, I guarantee it.


Or, you know... the fire department, police, or sheriff biatching about traffic. That's how it went down here.

The HOA was just the fastest way to take care of the problem on a legal level, so that is the route that is used.

At least we got a happy ending here.
 
2012-10-23 05:18:25 AM
People choose to live in a we're better than you neighborhood to avoid 'those types'. The price you pay may come at a price you aren't willing to pay. You really have no room to biatch being as you are an adult and you know the score. I don't live in your kind of neighborhood. Never want to be like you. I know I'm a dooshbag and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
 
2012-10-23 05:18:36 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.

One of my personal favorite holiday light displays is from Frisco, Texas. They also used music by TSO. Christmas Lights - Wizards in Winter


That was inventive and well done... but it doesn't have anything to do with the birth of christ.
 
2012-10-23 05:18:58 AM

Shadow Blasko: Bathia_Mapes: Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.

One of my personal favorite holiday light displays is from Frisco, Texas. They also used music by TSO. Christmas Lights - Wizards in Winter

I like how he and the guy from Mason got together and compared notes and went.. Lets make it MORE AWESOME BY OUR POWERS COMBINED... instead of getting all pissy on each other.


Indeed.
 
2012-10-23 05:20:30 AM
HOA's are a pain in the ass. On the upside, he did get some massive PR for his company.
 
2012-10-23 05:22:05 AM

Shadow Blasko: fiver5: farking wet blankets. I'd live next door to that shiat.

Bunch of dried up old coonts were the ones biatching to the HOA, I guarantee it.

Or, you know... the fire department, police, or sheriff biatching about traffic. That's how it went down here.

The HOA was just the fastest way to take care of the problem on a legal level, so that is the route that is used.

At least we got a happy ending here.


AMERICA! fark YEAH!! public safety droopy penis.
 
2012-10-23 05:23:54 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Shadow Blasko: Bathia_Mapes: Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.

One of my personal favorite holiday light displays is from Frisco, Texas. They also used music by TSO. Christmas Lights - Wizards in Winter

I like how he and the guy from Mason got together and compared notes and went.. Lets make it MORE AWESOME BY OUR POWERS COMBINED... instead of getting all pissy on each other.

Indeed.


I think this guy is winning for a non-corporate sponsored display though...

Holdmans
 
2012-10-23 05:28:32 AM
Boo!
 
2012-10-23 05:28:53 AM

fiver5: AMERICA! fark YEAH!! public safety droopy penis.


Slow your burn there man.

The Mason Ohio display became a problem because there is already a serious traffic problem out here.

I grew up in this area, and while some of the roads have gone to 5 lane systems, a large percentage of them are still essentially two lane country roads that are supporting 40 years worth of suburban sprawl.

Mostly the problem is that there are three counties that converge in the area, and they all have different priorities. It is also non-incorporated so the fire department is volunteer.

The main fire station/ambulance is on the same road that leads into the sub-division where the huge Mason Christmas lights display was located, and every night from Thanksgiving to New Years it was bumper to bumper traffic trying to get in there.

Because that station dispatches to some nearby HUGE retail areas... wrecks would sit for 30 or 40 minutes before fire or ambulance could get there because of the congestion.

It was just common sense that it had to be moved somewhere else... no BS involved.
 
2012-10-23 05:33:08 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That was inventive and well done... but it doesn't have anything to do with the birth of christ.


But enough about December 25th.
 
2012-10-23 05:38:43 AM
But don't forget, he owns his place, not like some stupid renter. You real estate zombies are truly moronic. If it isn't city hall telling you what you can't do, it's the neighbors. Pay your taxes! It's your house! You own it!
 
2012-10-23 05:46:49 AM

Shadow Blasko: fiver5: farking wet blankets. I'd live next door to that shiat.

Bunch of dried up old coonts were the ones biatching to the HOA, I guarantee it.

Or, you know... the fire department, police, or sheriff biatching about traffic. That's how it went down here.

The HOA was just the fastest way to take care of the problem on a legal level, so that is the route that is used.

At least we got a happy ending here.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Happy ending?
Happy ending happy ending happy ending!!!!!


/I have no idea why that popped into my head
 
2012-10-23 05:52:38 AM
I can sort of understand. Too bad they couldn't come up with a good compromise.
 
2012-10-23 05:59:02 AM
How about Christmas lights set to Slayer?
 
2012-10-23 05:59:49 AM
Well what else can you expect from a HOA if you live in one your life isn't yours anymore
 
2012-10-23 06:01:28 AM
FTA: Super sucky but, really, how would you feel about this going on next door?

Having played host to the 3000-person tent town in my back yard that built this?

I'd say you need to toughen up, ya silk-wearing buttercup.
 
2012-10-23 06:08:59 AM

Shadow Blasko: At least we got a happy ending here.


I've never considered living under an HOA until now. Tell me more.
 
2012-10-23 06:11:43 AM

RockofAges: Guys! Guys!

Keep in mind that TRAFFIC PROBLEMS caused by "too awesome lights" in random suburbia is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

/the snowflakes, they keep multiplying.
//I'm with you Krispy, I'd never, ever, in my entire life, live in a place which was filled with so many helicoptering, worry-wart urbanites.


Four years later, the Girard "castle" still causes traffic slow-downs as people slow down to gawp at it. Hell, I've heard the Girard family's had people they don't know just drop in out of the blue and ask for a tour of their home. That's balls.

I'm betting- were there an HOA in my neighborhood- they'd have been happy to let the Girards remain homeless.
 
2012-10-23 06:14:42 AM

RockofAges: Guys! Guys!

Keep in mind that TRAFFIC PROBLEMS caused by "too awesome lights" in random suburbia is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

/the snowflakes, they keep multiplying.
//I'm with you Krispy, I'd never, ever, in my entire life, live in a place which was filled with so many helicoptering, worry-wart urbanites.



You would rather lives be endangered (and they were, this is no hypothetical, the EMS/Fire crews could not get TO the station, let alone get to the scene of a crash) than to impinge upon the right of someone to turn your street into a parking lot?

You are a serious asshole.
 
2012-10-23 06:21:36 AM

RockofAges: Shadow Blasko: RockofAges: Guys! Guys!

Keep in mind that TRAFFIC PROBLEMS caused by "too awesome lights" in random suburbia is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

/the snowflakes, they keep multiplying.
//I'm with you Krispy, I'd never, ever, in my entire life, live in a place which was filled with so many helicoptering, worry-wart urbanites.


You would rather lives be endangered (and they were, this is no hypothetical, the EMS/Fire crews could not get TO the station, let alone get to the scene of a crash) than to impinge upon the right of someone to turn your street into a parking lot?

You are a serious asshole.

Mommy! The non-hypothetical fireman can't get past the flashing Christmas lights! Little Anastasia is about to lose some glitter from her new sweater!

Give me a break, junior. Your hysterical fingerpointing about a suburban "eyesore" was exposed from post one under my radar tab "CONCERN TROLL" and I have been lawlin' ever since.


Junior?

Wow. Thanks.

Have not been called that in at least 30 years.

And yeah, I have a concern. I'll admit it freely. My mom was a paramedic, and she saw quite a few people die because the ambulance crew could not get places on time due to stupid shiat.

You keep playing that "snowflake" card. I actually hate HOA's with a pretty active passion, but every once in a while they can be useful and to a good end.

Later
 
2012-10-23 06:26:24 AM

Shadow Blasko: because the ambulance crew could not get places on time due to stupid shiat.


Couldn't get to my house from a block away during Extreme Makeover. And I had pencil-necked security guards hassling my wife for taking the dog out on my own back yard. All this went on for a week or so.

Bear in mind, I live in a much, much smaller town. If Main Street is blocked? You're taking a thrice-as-long detour through the surrounding state forest.

*shrug*
 
2012-10-23 06:30:44 AM

RockofAges: Well... bye.

/I have serious tears for the deaths caused by the growing threat of offensively awesome Christmas lights.
//You should take that tearjerker to your local, high-class school and tell all of the local urbanites about the deathly dangers of allowing traffic congestion in suburban areas. Or write a new "Derpy Potter" series about the notion, to sort of raise awareness.


Do you think that, just maybe, you could try to be a teeny tiny little bit less of a douchebag? It's very distracting to scroll past and might cause a bottleneck in the thread.
 
2012-10-23 06:34:33 AM
lining up at 2 pm in the afternoon when the show didn't start until 7:30 pm.
To watch some flashing lights for a few minutes? They sound like apple customers.
 
2012-10-23 06:39:14 AM

RockofAges: Personally I think we should just kill fun and get it over with. That guy is an asshole anyways, and he costs precious money.


The synchronized show is one thing. North of me here in CT, in the almost-as-small town of Ballouville, there used to be a guy we used to call "Mr. Christmas". His name was Whipple, and he was known for several states around as having one of the largest, most extravagant collections of Christmas lights and decorations anyone had ever seen.

Melvin Whipple's Christmas Wonderland.

He just kinda... built it up over years and years. And then, when people started to take notice, he basically turned his home into a theme park. For many, many years as a kid, taking a trip to this little miniature, DIY Christmas Theme Park was just something you did- something a lot of area families did, in fact.

Good thing HOAs weren't in that equation. They'd have Bah-Humbugged that square between the eyes from 500 yards away.
 
2012-10-23 06:48:04 AM
Commercial lighting display provider sets up demonstration display in residential area, attracting thousands of onlookers and causing serious disturbance and annoyance to neighbours. Neighbours take action to have the advertisement moved to a more appropriate area.

Erm, so what? Seems like a perfectly sensible use of HOA restrictions. It's not as if they even twisted an old rule to fit - they introduced a new rule, democratically, to deal with the problem.
 
2012-10-23 06:54:45 AM

fiver5: farking wet blankets. I'd live next door to that shiat.

Bunch of dried up old coonts were the ones biatching to the HOA, I guarantee it.


Since you're the first HOA basher consider this:

I've been involved with thousands of real estate closings over a 25+ year banking career and many of those closings were transactions where the home buyer was buying in a sub-division that included an HOA. Never once have I seen a gun held to the purchasers head that saw them forced to complete the transaction. Most were well educated and all could read. All were made aware of the existence of the HOA by the closing attorney or me. All received a copy of the Covenants and Restrictions that were attached to their Deed.

NOT ONE EVER READ THEM PRIOR TO THE CLOSING THAT I RECALL.

Bottom line is that joining a HOA is a voluntary act. I have zero sympathy for 99% of the complainers. What you get from a HOA has value to you as a home owner whether you're smart enough to recognize it or not.

I'm done.
 
2012-10-23 06:59:49 AM
I think HOAs should be outlawed and people who support them should be shot into the moon. However, I can highly sympathize with the neighbors and support efforts to... Discourage displays that large.
 
2012-10-23 07:03:55 AM

jmr61: Bottom line is that joining a HOA is a voluntary act.


I've heard that in some areas of the country (particularly out West), it's pretty much impossible to find a home that doesn't belong to some sort of an HOA.

Doesn't seem so far-fetched to me, although I don't know if this area was such a case. Seems to me that there are situations where- if you'd like to live somewhere in a 200 mile radius- living outside an HOA is very probably not optional. If that is the case, why would you bat an eyelash at that clause in the contract?

Also, the guy isn't complaining, near as I can tell. So there's no one for you to have sympathy for in the first place here.
 
2012-10-23 07:03:59 AM

RockofAges: Personally I think we should just kill fun and get it over with. That guy is an asshole anyways, and he costs precious money.


doroteos2.files.wordpress.com

Yes! We have taken the wrong path, people. We must return to our Puritan roots. Anyone displaying holiday decorations more than a week before or after said holiday will be pilloried. Any store displaying Christmas decorations before Black Friday shall be burnt to the ground, and the earth upon which it was built shall be salted.
 
2012-10-23 07:05:35 AM

jmr61: Bottom line is that joining a HOA is a voluntary act. I have zero sympathy for 99% of the complainers. What you get from a HOA has value to you as a home owner whether you're smart enough to recognize it or not.


There are two issues with HOAs: when the covenants and restrictions change after the purchase. In fact that's what happened here. Judd's display was permissible under HOA rules until the HOA made a change this year targeted at one homeowner.

I don't necessarily disagree with the HOA in this case, especially if there were issues around property damage and safety, but personal vendettas get waged through HOAs all the time.

Second, there are certain cities that force developers to form HOAs so that maintenance burdens are removed from the city (common area lawns, snow removal, etc). In those areas, it's nearly impossible for someone in the middle or lower-middle class to own a home outside of an HOA. In those areas, you can't call it completely voluntary.

I agree that in a majority of cases, people get what's coming to them - you don't really own a home in an HOA, and they should damned well know it. But it's not always cut and dried. I wouldn't even put it at 99% of the time.
 
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2012-10-23 07:07:12 AM

Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.


And damn it.. it bugs me!

ME ME ME
 
2012-10-23 07:10:30 AM
SkunkWerks:

Melvin Whipple's Christmas Wonderland.

You could have warned me about the website
 
2012-10-23 07:12:03 AM

orbister: Commercial lighting display provider sets up demonstration display in residential area, attracting thousands of onlookers and causing serious disturbance and annoyance to neighbours. Neighbours take action to have the advertisement moved to a more appropriate area.

Erm, so what? Seems like a perfectly sensible use of HOA restrictions. It's not as if they even twisted an old rule to fit - they introduced a new rule, democratically, to deal with the problem.


This pretty much sums it up.
 
2012-10-23 07:12:53 AM

SkunkWerks: 've heard that in some areas of the country (particularly out West


Virginia Beach is a geographically large city. In the 70s and 80s, they limited high density development to "strategic growth areas" to prevent sprawl and preserve farm land. If you wanted to build outside of it, you had to have a minimum of 10 acres or something like that. Within the strategic growth areas, they mandated HOAs.

HOAs are good for the city, because they offload maintenance cost from the city, and in many cases they are good for the homeowners because the services are much more responsive to individuals. My dad's little area of Green Run is primarily a dump of lower middle class people, but they have 4 pools, a bunch of other common use facilities, and the HOA fees are ridiculously low.

But for the middle class and lower middle class in VB, HOA membership is pretty much a mandatory part of home ownership.
 
2012-10-23 07:14:58 AM

d23: Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.

And damn it.. it bugs me!

ME ME ME


Can you show the "Me Me Me" in any of my posts?
 
2012-10-23 07:15:34 AM
Oh, don't worry. The rest of the people in the hobby have made sure there will be a much worse song this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=L6t7oowAsGs
 
2012-10-23 07:15:57 AM

ktybear: SkunkWerks:

Melvin Whipple's Christmas Wonderland.

You could have warned me about the website


Ah, yeah. There's a website.

Sorry about that. The DIY nature of the site matches the original display (which has died with Mervin, more or less). What can I say here? But really. This was a fixture in the area for something like, 20-30 years. Guy built little chapels and outbuildings to showcase all the decorations. He was certainly a bit tweaked, but it was a fun experience. Man was something of a pimp, too, as I recall. Very popular with the ladies or some such.

The community didn't revile him, they celebrated him.

And these people are whinging because of a thousand people over a couple weeks? I guess when you're that bored you can find anything to complain about.
 
2012-10-23 07:18:07 AM

Shadow Blasko: Yeah... I uh ... I can't really complain much about this one.

The *original* super holiday lights music etc "Trans Siberian Orchestra" house was less than 2 miles from here (Mason, OH) and a farking nightmare.

I LOVE holiday decorations, but when it becomes a traffic issue, and then a public safety issue, you gotta shut it down.

The city made a place for the Mason lights display, and all is cool now.


The original was in little rock, Jennings osbourne and his three houses. The airline pilots said they could see the lights from hundreds of miles.
RIP Jennings, your BBQ was epic.
 
2012-10-23 07:20:15 AM
Heh.

It may not be the best county in the word, but at least they get into the Holiday Spirit, other then trying to stomp it down.

Guernsey County Courthouse Light Show, Cambridge Ohio

I couldn't find a good video, but they have been doing it for the past few years. It goes on for few hours a night starting in November and runs into the first week of January. They play blocks of music, so 30 minutes might be classic Christmas music, the next 30 will be from Christmas shows (Charlie Brown, The Grinch, etc...) and the next will be music from TSO, etc....

/and like all good Appalachian people....they just leave the lights strung up all year :D
 
2012-10-23 07:21:27 AM

Pinko_Commie: We were in talks with the city to work out a plan to make the show run smoother and not be a burden on the neighbors like traffic control, porta-potties, trash collectors, police presents, etc. Now none if it is needed.

That was nice of him to think about the police like that :-)


The only presents I ever got from the cops were tickets.
 
2012-10-23 07:21:52 AM

wildlifer: The original was in little rock, Jennings osbourne and his three houses. The airline pilots said they could see the lights from hundreds of miles.
RIP Jennings, your BBQ was epic.



Cool. I thought the local guy was the first to do the music/sync fm broadcast thing.

That is pretty epic.
 
2012-10-23 07:45:26 AM
some dude out in the country without a homeowner's association should hire this dude to put a wicked display on his house instead. if he has a big yard, he can charge people a buck to park their cars there to watch the show. its a win-win.
 
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