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(Sports Illustrated)   Remember the Longhorn Network? How it was supposed to make Texas football stronger? Coach Mack Brown wants it castrated   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 37
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2012-10-23 09:20:23 AM
I love how absolutely no one is going to mock Mack Brown for saying "I'm a soldier," in an even more asinine context than Kellen Winslow, Jr. ever said it. Pays to be old and white.
 
2012-10-23 09:56:15 AM
Beers, steers and queers.
 
2012-10-23 10:02:11 AM

Kuta: Beers, steers and queers.


....And it looks like we are out of beers and steers.
 
2012-10-23 10:08:44 AM
Best part of the article is that Brown was giving an interview complaining about the network, then had to wrap things up and leave because he had to go tape a segment for the network.
 
2012-10-23 10:19:57 AM
TFA didn't mention that there is a sub fee for TLN on U-Verse.

But it is absolutely the wave of the future. ND will have its own net as soon as it "joins" the ACC. You watch.
 
2012-10-23 10:23:44 AM

the_freelance: TFA didn't mention that there is a sub fee for TLN on U-Verse.

But it is absolutely the wave of the future. ND will have its own net as soon as it "joins" the ACC. You watch.


You mean it doesn't now?
 
2012-10-23 10:59:55 AM

ArkPanda: the_freelance: TFA didn't mention that there is a sub fee for TLN on U-Verse.

But it is absolutely the wave of the future. ND will have its own net as soon as it "joins" the ACC. You watch.

You mean it doesn't now?


ND already has the sweetest TV deal in football with NBC. They dont want their own network to maintain.
 
2012-10-23 11:01:05 AM
That's not ironic. That was expected.

A network for the whole conference, I can see. A network that broadcasts outside of Austin for just UT athletics? Eeeeeeeeeeeeh really pushin it, y'all.
 
2012-10-23 11:09:04 AM

Di Atribe: That's not ironic. That was expected.

A network for the whole conference, I can see. A network that broadcasts outside of Austin for just UT athletics? Eeeeeeeeeeeeh really pushin it, y'all.


plus, it barely broadcasts in austin.

/ try finding a bar that plays longhorn network. it was damn near impossible when I visited for one their early games this season.
 
2012-10-23 11:16:52 AM

Di Atribe: That's not ironic. That was expected.

A network for the whole conference, I can see. A network that broadcasts outside of Austin for just UT athletics? Eeeeeeeeeeeeh really pushin it, y'all.


Came in to say basically this. Big Ten Network has some good stuff on like The Journey and Big Ten Icons but even they struggle to fill the whole programming schedule and that's twelve schools. Yes, the B1G sucks at math.
 
2012-10-23 11:19:25 AM

pute kisses like a man: plus, it barely broadcasts in austin.

/ try finding a bar that plays longhorn network. it was damn near impossible when I visited for one their early games this season.


Seriously!? Wow. I've watched it exactly once. Was it last year when their opening game was "exclusively" on the Longhorn Network? I have FiOS, so I already had it, but my friend, who is an actual alum, didn't get to see the game. I thought that was kind of a bummer.
 
2012-10-23 11:26:00 AM
Remember when the NCAA killed SMU because they got too big for their britches and beat the longhorns?
 
2012-10-23 11:26:50 AM
Meanwhile life is sweet for the Aggies in the SEC. Sure they aren't winning (right now), but they've set themselves up to be the new kings on college football in Texas. It helps that Mack Brown can't coach and the LHN is a joke.
 
2012-10-23 11:31:55 AM
Just gonna leave this here:

i758.photobucket.com

/Boomer
 
2012-10-23 11:32:13 AM

Di Atribe: pute kisses like a man: plus, it barely broadcasts in austin.

/ try finding a bar that plays longhorn network. it was damn near impossible when I visited for one their early games this season.

Seriously!? Wow. I've watched it exactly once. Was it last year when their opening game was "exclusively" on the Longhorn Network? I have FiOS, so I already had it, but my friend, who is an actual alum, didn't get to see the game. I thought that was kind of a bummer.


I don't live in austin, so some of this may be incorrect. but this is how it was explained to me:

at the beginning of the season, there was only one provider who offered the longhorn network was (I forget their name). Neither of the major cable or satelite providers offered the longhorn network, because this one dinky provider, who only serviced parts of austin, had a deal with the network. so, for a while, almost no one in austin had the network, unless they were fortunate enough to be able to switch to this no-name provider, and were ok with the other setbacks of switching.

later this season, at&t struck a deal to provide the longhorn network, but only residentially. so, commercial operations, like bars, are still out.

when I was there at the beginning of the season, there were maybe a half dozen bars in the whole city that could play the game (in a city with a population of about a million, 10% of whom are affiliated with the university, and the rest are all fans) . so, all the bars were so full, you wouldn't see the game anyways. 

/ pretty lame. it's easier for me to watch a UT game outside of texas than it is to watch it in austin.
 
2012-10-23 11:40:00 AM

Di Atribe: That's not ironic. That was expected.

A network for the whole conference, I can see. A network that broadcasts outside of Austin for just UT athletics? Eeeeeeeeeeeeh really pushin it, y'all.


Yep. And primarily because they were greedy. You want a sports network in Texas? Fine, here's what you do: the Lone Star network. There are, what, 11 or 12 FBS teams in the state? Show 'em all. Coaches shows, women's soccer, whatever. Do that, and you've not only got enough programming to fill the air, but you've got statewide penetration, and not just from UT alums.

Hell, I might even tune in to watch something like the UNT spring game, out of sheer morbid curiosity.
 
2012-10-23 11:42:13 AM

pute kisses like a man: Di Atribe: pute kisses like a man: plus, it barely broadcasts in austin.

/ try finding a bar that plays longhorn network. it was damn near impossible when I visited for one their early games this season.

Seriously!? Wow. I've watched it exactly once. Was it last year when their opening game was "exclusively" on the Longhorn Network? I have FiOS, so I already had it, but my friend, who is an actual alum, didn't get to see the game. I thought that was kind of a bummer.

I don't live in austin, so some of this may be incorrect. but this is how it was explained to me:

at the beginning of the season, there was only one provider who offered the longhorn network was (I forget their name). Neither of the major cable or satelite providers offered the longhorn network, because this one dinky provider, who only serviced parts of austin, had a deal with the network. so, for a while, almost no one in austin had the network, unless they were fortunate enough to be able to switch to this no-name provider, and were ok with the other setbacks of switching.

later this season, at&t struck a deal to provide the longhorn network, but only residentially. so, commercial operations, like bars, are still out.

when I was there at the beginning of the season, there were maybe a half dozen bars in the whole city that could play the game (in a city with a population of about a million, 10% of whom are affiliated with the university, and the rest are all fans) . so, all the bars were so full, you wouldn't see the game anyways. 

/ pretty lame. it's easier for me to watch a UT game outside of texas than it is to watch it in austin.


Close, but not quite. Grande cable was the only local provider in Austin all of last year and up to the end of August this year to carry LHN. AT&T reached their deal with LHN the opening week of the season, so if you had U-Verse you were able to see the first game of the season.

The problem with that is, most bars and restaurants use DirecTV (probably for sunday ticket). So unless they get U-Verse, it's hard to find the game.

Also, Mack Brown talking about this is a way for him to deflect the critics and blame how bad this team is on something other than coaching. I'm leaning towards it being his time to go. For the last few years, the teams just don't seem to want to play for him.
 
2012-10-23 12:34:39 PM

IAmRight: I love how absolutely no one is going to mock Mack Brown for saying "I'm a soldier," in an even more asinine context than Kellen Winslow, Jr. ever said it. Pays to be old and white.


Meh. It's just an expression. You hear people say stuff like that in organizations all the time -- "this guy's a good soldier," etc., generally meaning he stays in line and gives a good effort. That's all Brown was saying. Winslow was trying to justify a violent hit -- and more specifically, lack of empathy for the well-being of his opponent -- by comparing his actions to the war. Completely different context.
 
2012-10-23 12:50:19 PM

AlgertMan: Remember when the NCAA killed SMU because they got too big for their britches and beat the longhorns?


Then they hired the NCAA investigator who killed SMU to run the Big XII. Coincidence? I think not.
 
2012-10-23 01:03:20 PM

Super Chronic: Meh. It's just an expression.


It's just an expression in all cases. However, there was a TON of outrage over Winslow (and people still mention that as the top thing that comes to mind when they hear Winslow's name). There will be no outrage over this.

/the military was also a lot more in the limelight then
//but don't act as though Brown's race and age play NO role in this
///f*ck Mack Brown and his horsesh*t campaigning for votes in '04
 
2012-10-23 01:03:41 PM

IAmRight: I love how absolutely no one is going to mock Mack Brown for saying "I'm a soldier," in an even more asinine context than Kellen Winslow, Jr. ever said it. Pays to be old and white.


...

I read that line in the article and came here to make fun of it. I wasn't sure whether to ask how many people he's killed or which of his boys he's lost, but I was going to mock it. See, I even had it copied:

"I'm a soldier,'' Brown said. "They tell me to go work with the Longhorn Network, I'll go do it.''

/not everything is about age and race
 
2012-10-23 01:32:39 PM

IAmRight: (and people still mention that as the top thing that comes to mind when they hear Winslow's name)


Well I would agree with you that people ought to drop it by now -- although it was pretty stupid, he was at an age when everyone says stupid things.

But the difference, as I said, is that Winslow compared himself to a soldier to express his disdain and lack of empathy for an injured opponent; Brown was using an in-the-vernacular expression for people who stay in line and work hard.

If Winslow had drawn attention for, let's just say, making extra effort to break a tackle and score a touchdown, someone complimented him on his hard work and he smiled and said "just bein' a good soldier!", do you think it would have received the same level of condemnation? No. It was the sneer and the justification for injuring someone that had people up in arms. Context makes the difference.
 
2012-10-23 01:33:06 PM
Does it have anything to do with the Big XII becoming the Little 10?
 
2012-10-23 01:41:13 PM

IAmRight: I love how absolutely no one is going to mock Mack Brown for saying "I'm a soldier," in an even more asinine context than Kellen Winslow, Jr. ever said it. Pays to be old and white.


Saban got dinged pretty good for calling Tressell a soldier. As a matter of fact one of the worst attackers on Saban for that was a sports writer in Florida named Mike Bianchi. Unfortunately for Bianchi all his past columns were online and a couple of years before he had called a golfer on the Senior Tour "a good soldier"
 
2012-10-23 01:44:13 PM

Super Chronic: If Winslow had drawn attention for, let's just say, making extra effort to break a tackle and score a touchdown, someone complimented him on his hard work and he smiled and said "just bein' a good soldier!", do you think it would have received the same level of condemnation? No. It was the sneer and the justification for injuring someone that had people up in arms. Context makes the difference.


Hmmm he did go a bit off the deep end, though you're the only person I've ever seen actually mention what he went off about (I have honestly never seen it mentioned in all the outrage - people are always just mad that he compared football to war despite the fact that everyone does it).

What's weirder is that the play Winslow made WAS a great, legal block that took out two guys. He shouldn't have to apologize for that.
 
2012-10-23 01:52:23 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Saban got dinged pretty good for calling Tressell a soldier.


Hmmm never heard anything about that.
 
2012-10-23 02:06:04 PM

IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Saban got dinged pretty good for calling Tressell a soldier.

Hmmm never heard anything about that.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-05/sports/os-bianchi-jim- t ressel-0606-20110605_1_jim-tressel-unscrupulous-sports-agents-college- sports
 
2012-10-23 02:06:45 PM

Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Saban got dinged pretty good for calling Tressell a soldier.

Hmmm never heard anything about that.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-05/sports/os-bianchi-jim- t ressel-0606-20110605_1_jim-tressel-unscrupulous-sports-agents-college- sports


now with html Link
 
2012-10-23 02:30:58 PM

Gonz: Hell, I might even tune in to watch something like the UNT spring game, out of sheer morbid curiosity.


Hey, that last game against LaLa Ragin Cajuns was a good one!


MyPoolLeaks: Close, but not quite. Grande cable was the only local provider in Austin all of last year and up to the end of August this year to carry LHN. AT&T reached their deal with LHN the opening week of the season, so if you had U-Verse you were able to see the first game of the season.

The problem with that is, most bars and restaurants use DirecTV (probably for sunday ticket). So unless they get U-Verse, it's hard to find the game.


I have FiOS and it was in my lineup on the day it launched. Mind you, I'm not in Austin. Also, Grande sucks & UT was stupid if they thought signing a deal with them was a good idea. WHY DIDN'T THEY CONSULT ME FIRST
 
2012-10-23 03:42:00 PM
It got rid of Mizzou Nebraska and ATM so I guess it worked for their purposes
 
2012-10-23 03:49:48 PM
Too late farkers, it's yours. You were willing to blow up the Big XII to get it, so no take backs.
 
2012-10-23 03:55:58 PM

Di Atribe: That's not ironic. That was expected.

A network for the whole conference, I can see. A network that broadcasts outside of Austin for just UT athletics? Eeeeeeeeeeeeh really pushin it, y'all.


They thought that they would be able to leverage the LHN to become a de facto conference network where UT was the dominant partner. They wanted to air high school games not only from Texas but from anywhere they decided to recruit. They wanted to twist the other conference teams' arms to get them to show their games on LHN. But then Texas Tech told them to go pound sand, Mizzou and A&M walked away (along with UT's second most attractive annual game), Oklahoma set up their own network in north Texas, the NCAA told them to fark off when it came to showing high school games, and the only Big XII team that would agree to play them was Kansas. What the LHN is now is not what they envisioned it would be.
 
2012-10-23 05:42:01 PM
FTFA:
"I didn't ask for it,'' Brown said Monday, noting he's worried that the six hours a week he spends taping three television shows and the network's access to the first 30 minutes of daily practice may tip opposing coaches to player injuries, tendencies and schemes.


If dude had an ounce of imagination he would use that 30 minutes to broadcast "misinformation" regarding his team to the opposing teams that are using it for intelligence gathering. Have your starting running back fake a limp, practice the "Statue of Liberty" play, etc. You would think a coach at that level of football would figure that out.
 
2012-10-23 06:38:07 PM
Who the hell outside of Texas gives a shiat if they have Longhorn Steakhouse Channel on their cable lineup?

If you say "Me, Oh I would!" then farking move back to Texas

The balls on those people... "Longhorn Network"? Suck MY Longhorn!
 
2012-10-23 08:39:04 PM

heavymetal: If dude had an ounce of imagination he would use that 30 minutes to broadcast "misinformation" regarding his team to the opposing teams that are using it for intelligence gathering. Have your starting running back fake a limp, practice the "Statue of Liberty" play, etc. You would think a coach at that level of football would figure that out.


You don't need to make excuses when you're winning......
 
2012-10-23 09:49:21 PM

mikaloyd: It got rid of Mizzou Nebraska and ATM so I guess it worked for their purposes


Don't forget Colorado!

/go huskers
 
2012-10-23 10:18:28 PM
Mack is frustrated and looking to point fingers anywhere he can. The problems with the team aren't that their schemes are getting read. The problems are:
1. The defense is inexcusably bad at tackling. Half don't even attempt to wrap-up. They were probably better tacklers when they came in from high school.
2. The DBs screw up their application of defensive schemes pretty regularly.
3. (lesser) Ash gets flustered when he plays a good defense.
 
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