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(Spinner)   Donald Fagen talks about the third album in his Nightfly trilogy, the upcoming Sunken Condos and what we can expect from the dynamic duo that is Steely Dan   (spinner.com) divider line 63
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2012-10-22 11:58:58 PM  
The Nightfly was the very first CD I purchased way back in 1984. It's still in my rotation and ranks as one of my top ten albums ever.

Now excuse me while I go don my spandex jacket.
 
2012-10-23 12:26:06 AM  

markie_farkie: The Nightfly was the very first CD I purchased way back in 1984. It's still in my rotation and ranks as one of my top ten albums ever.

Now excuse me while I go don my spandex jacket.


Nightfly was also the first all-digital recording in history, IIRC.

I recently rediscovered it after having not heard it in 15 - 20 years. It really holds up. In fact I remember reading recently that its seeing a bit of a renaissance.
 
2012-10-23 12:32:42 AM  
The Nightfly is still my favorite album of all time. I wasn't all that impressed with Kamakiriad or Morph The Cat, but then I'm comparing them with the perfection of Nightfly.
 
2012-10-23 12:55:26 AM  
I use Morph the Cat to test speakers I repair (a side gig). Just sayin'.

/huge Dan and Fagen fan
//one of the crossword clues today was "multi-platinum Steely Dan album," with three letters
///heh
/one of the best albums ever made, of any genre
 
2012-10-23 12:57:16 AM  

markie_farkie: The Nightfly was the very first CD I purchased way back in 1984. It's still in my rotation and ranks as one of my top ten albums ever.

Now excuse me while I go don my spandex jacket.


I always feel like I should be on a yacht with my nose buried in cocaine and p*ssy when I listen to Gaucho. It's the "California sound."

Nightfly is incredible, and when I have my tunes on shuffle reminds of when albums were recorded to sound good, not bombastic.
 
2012-10-23 05:47:05 AM  

gilgigamesh: Nightfly was also the first all-digital recording in history, IIRC.


One of the first but not the first, the first was Ry Cooder's Bop Til You Drop.
 
2012-10-23 06:01:55 AM  
Another new frontier.
 
2012-10-23 06:21:34 AM  
Am I wrong thinking Fagen is married to Levon Helm's daughter?
 
2012-10-23 07:36:03 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Am I wrong thinking Fagen is married to Levon Helm's daughter?


Helms' ex-wife...IIRC.
 
2012-10-23 08:20:19 AM  

Head_Shot: Crewmannumber6: Am I wrong thinking Fagen is married to Levon Helm's daughter?

Helms' ex-wife...IIRC.


Apparently, Libby Titus was never married to Levon Helm, though they did have children together. She married Fagen in 1993.
 
2012-10-23 08:31:12 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Am I wrong thinking Fagen is married to Levon Helm's daughter?


Fagen lives in the Woodstock area like Levon did and had been playing in Levon's band from time to time.

Imagine going to a farmer's market and getting a free Levon Helm concert with Fagen among others in the band, with bonus pumpkin-cannon goodness.
 
2012-10-23 08:32:20 AM  
It's startling to me how often bits of Fagen's lyrics turn up in my mind:

"A virus wearing pumps and pearls."

"We'll be eternally free and eternally young."

"The mechanized hum of another world."

Just this morning I had the radio on in the shower and they were talking about the debate. I found myself singing: "See the glory of the royal scam." Other than the Beatles, no one else has insinuated themselves into my subconscious like Becker and Fagen. Did I become a cynical old bastard because of them, or did they just fit my experiences? I guess the answer would be:

"Darlin' if you only knew half as much as everybody thinks you do."

//Till the neighbors came out screaming
 
2012-10-23 08:35:06 AM  
I'm not a huge Steely Dan fan; I like the tunes that you'll hear on Classic Rock these days, but I don't own any of their albums. Nonetheless, The Nightfly is one of my desert island CD's. Just wonderful from start to finish.

/ Clicking on "New Frontier" in my AIMP MP3 player.
// Gonna have a wing-ding.
/// Video for you all
//// Pausing MP3, watching video instead.
 
2012-10-23 08:35:34 AM  
It'll only be really good if they get Chevy back slappin skins

/old school
 
2012-10-23 08:49:41 AM  
Donald Fagen talks about the third album in his Nightfly trilogy, the upcoming Sunken Condos and what we can expect from the dynamic duo that is Steely Dan

"the upcoming Sunken Condos" as in the one that was released last Tuesday? (and is fantastic)
 
2012-10-23 08:54:01 AM  

Gulper Eel: Crewmannumber6: Am I wrong thinking Fagen is married to Levon Helm's daughter?

Fagen lives in the Woodstock area like Levon did and had been playing in Levon's band from time to time.

Imagine going to a farmer's market and getting a free Levon Helm concert with Fagen among others in the band, with bonus pumpkin-cannon goodness.


I would have sold my soul to be able to be there for one of his rambles
 
2012-10-23 09:05:19 AM  
Would pour me a Cuban breeze, Gretchen.
 
2012-10-23 09:05:55 AM  

born_yesterday: Would you pour me a Cuban breeze, Gretchen.


godammitsomuch
 
2012-10-23 09:28:01 AM  
Thanks for the heads-up, subby, but that's three factual errors in a one-sentence headline:

1. Sunken Condos is explicitly not part of the Nightfly trilogy (which is comprised of The Nightfly, Kamakiriad, and Morph the Cat).
2. Sunken Condos isn't upcoming, it's out. Go buy it.
3. The article doesn't touch on what, if anything, is upcoming from Steely Dan.

/I believe I just got the goodbye look.
 
2012-10-23 09:38:32 AM  

497.5 Feet of Rope: it's out. Go buy it.


I believe I shall walk between the raindrops and go purchase it.

Whoooooooooaaaaaa MIAMI
 
zez
2012-10-23 09:58:03 AM  
I saw "Steely Dan" (it was Becker backing Fagen on the Kamakiriad tour, but still...) with a free ticket I got for buying gas. It was at an outdoor amphitheater laying in the grass on a cool summer night. Perfect.
 
2012-10-23 10:14:04 AM  
A Donald Fagen solo album sounds like Steely Dan without the cool guitar.
 
2012-10-23 10:16:00 AM  

zez: I saw "Steely Dan" (it was Becker backing Fagen on the Kamakiriad tour, but still...) with a free ticket I got for buying gas. It was at an outdoor amphitheater laying in the grass on a cool summer night. Perfect.


For some reason that music sounds much better in that environment, not that I don't enjoy the music in other places, but hearing it performed live, outside, on the grass, on a nice summer evening is pure bliss.
 
2012-10-23 10:32:33 AM  
Wow...Steely Dan is still around? (seriously didn't know)

/best band named after a fictional dildo ever.
 
2012-10-23 10:36:22 AM  
The Nightfly is an amazing album, and I really liked Kamakiriad which got played endlessly.

/Listening to The Nightfly on Spotify right now, next up, Sunken Condos
!
 
2012-10-23 10:54:42 AM  
Steely Dan used to live next door to Jethro Tull. They were friends until Allison Caynes came between them. Alan Parsons moved in across the street and was the son of Dr. Hook.
 
2012-10-23 11:16:56 AM  
Ninety minutes from New York to Paris.
 
2012-10-23 11:20:21 AM  
I was all of 8 years old when "Hey Nineteen" came on the radio, and for some reason I loved it from the first hearing. The melodica, the beat, the opening hook, the harmonics in the verses, the world-weariness... don't ask me why i responded to all that at a tender young age, but the Dan hit the spot.
 
2012-10-23 11:24:56 AM  

dickfreckle: markie_farkie: The Nightfly was the very first CD I purchased way back in 1984. It's still in my rotation and ranks as one of my top ten albums ever.

Now excuse me while I go don my spandex jacket.

I always feel like I should be on a yacht with my nose buried in cocaine and p*ssy when I listen to Gaucho. It's the "California sound."

Nightfly is incredible, and when I have my tunes on shuffle reminds of when albums were recorded to sound good, not bombastic.


I think Gaucho perfectly describes the bands bi-coastal nature. Every time I hear it I feel I am ether coked up on Mulholland drive at sunrise OR sitting in a SOHO loft with no furniture.
 
2012-10-23 11:27:13 AM  
The key word is survival on the new frontier
 
2012-10-23 11:29:42 AM  

T.M.S.: I think Gaucho perfectly describes the bands bi-coastal nature. Every time I hear it I feel I am ether coked up on Mulholland drive at sunrise OR sitting in a SOHO loft with no furniture.


Or standing with a burning face in the skybox at the Custerdome as your boytoy canoodles with the street trash he picked up while your business partners smirk into their martinis.
 
2012-10-23 11:36:24 AM  

bump: It'll only be really good if they get Chevy back slappin skins



i'd say Chevy probably never stopped getting blown, between about 1975 to 1981, between SNL, Caddyshack, and oh by the way, playing drums for the Dan briefly.
 
2012-10-23 12:06:16 PM  
michael McDonald backing vocals on "Peg" makes me chuckle....
 
2012-10-23 12:20:21 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: michael McDonald backing vocals on "Peg" makes me chuckle....


The interview they did with him about the slight dissonance Becker and Fagen wanted on that track was quite interesting.
 
2012-10-23 12:23:50 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: michael McDonald backing vocals on "Peg" makes me chuckle....



i've said this before but i'm convinced Michael McDonald sings in Wookie.

/she hame-a humma back in mongabo
fee fee ha hiiiii!
she had to fay foe fee haiiiiii
Heeee, had to hay hah hee monna-miiiii
came from somewhere else to be created
Heeeeeeeee, never hay haaah haah haiiiii
Whutta ho bu-heez
shobba sheez
HUH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HUH HAH HUH!
Wanted to go!
Hubba hoo-buh-heez, never sees
HUH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HUH HAH HUH!
 
2012-10-23 12:26:00 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: michael McDonald backing vocals on "Peg" makes me chuckle....



there's a cool youtube video of Fagen and Becker playing the multitracks from that session, with interview of the musicians. the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.

Michael McDonald I think said he was singing in thirds for his backing vocals, and it was hard as shiat since that chord spacing / interval is uncommon in Western music but it is what Fagen wanted.

check it out. it is pretty awesome.
 
2012-10-23 12:41:14 PM  

rickythepenguin: the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.


I thought that was strange, because I've always heard the popping bassline in the chorus of "Peg" and find it hard to believe that neither Fagen nor Becker didn't notice something.

I think it was "Peg" where they went through like six guitarists trying to get a good lead break. They played some of the rejects in that video, which was cool. I need to get the DVD.
 
2012-10-23 12:45:05 PM  

rickythepenguin: there's a cool youtube video of Fagen and Becker playing the multitracks from that session, with interview of the musicians. the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.


It's part of the "Classic Albums" series (Aja) -- also available streaming on Netflix. They're decent little documentaries. Fagen plays a few of the guitar solos that different players laid down for "Peg," and just dismissively points out that "yeah, that's no good; yeah, that's no good," etc. He's also a hoot in sitting there talking about what some of the lyrics to different songs mean -- "'This is the day of the expanding man' -- self-explanatory, really."

Michael McDonald I think said he was singing in thirds for his backing vocals, and it was hard as shiat since that chord spacing / interval is uncommon in Western music but it is what Fagen wanted.

Had a thrash metal guitarist as my roommate in college. He'd scoff at my Steely Dan records. Then, one month, the featured guitar tablature in his "Guitar" magazine was "Kid Charlemagne" and I told him he should try to learn it. He came back a couple of weeks later and said "those are the sickest chords I've ever seen. I don't even know what the hell they are."
 
2012-10-23 12:47:26 PM  

Uzzah: He's also a hoot in sitting there talking about what some of the lyrics to different songs mean -- "'This is the day of the expanding man' -- self-explanatory, really."


I thought everyone knew it was about a former fitness fanatic breaking training and going to a lot of buffets.
 
2012-10-23 12:52:19 PM  

Uzzah: It's part of the "Classic Albums" series



long ago there was one of the grateful dead's "american beuaty" and i know they had bob weir, but i'm not sure if he was with phil lesh or mickey hart, but one other original memebr, and they played a portion of the vocals only to "ripple" and i was like, "GOOD GOD RELEASE THE A CAPPELLA VERSION!" it sounded so perfect.

and i remember Weir playing back his guitar only track on "Sugar Magnolia" and he was wincing, saying, "sorry, the intonation was never quite right on that guitar". gotta find that on youtube.
 
2012-10-23 12:57:06 PM  
I tried my luck at raising some baby ducks last year. I named the first four Becker, Fagen, Josie and Peg.

Later I added Dupree, Janine, Charlemagne, and Deacon. Maybe a couple more... I forget. But I live in a place with too many predators. My duck luck sucked.
 
2012-10-23 01:03:28 PM  

the_rev: I tried my luck at raising some baby ducks last year. I named the first four Becker, Fagen, Josie and Peg.

Later I added Dupree, Janine, Charlemagne, and Deacon. Maybe a couple more... I forget. But I live in a place with too many predators. My duck luck sucked.


No 'Skunk'?
 
2012-10-23 01:04:39 PM  

Crewmannumber6: the_rev: I tried my luck at raising some baby ducks last year. I named the first four Becker, Fagen, Josie and Peg.

Later I added Dupree, Janine, Charlemagne, and Deacon. Maybe a couple more... I forget. But I live in a place with too many predators. My duck luck sucked.

No 'Skunk'?


I believe I did name one Baxter, now that you mention it!
 
2012-10-23 02:00:15 PM  

theorellior: rickythepenguin: the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.

I thought that was strange, because I've always heard the popping bassline in the chorus of "Peg" and find it hard to believe that neither Fagen nor Becker didn't notice something.

I think it was "Peg" where they went through like six guitarists trying to get a good lead break. They played some of the rejects in that video, which was cool. I need to get the DVD.


Slapping, just watched the vid.
 
2012-10-23 02:20:14 PM  
Cool as hell -- I'm just "rediscovering" Nightfly.
 
2012-10-23 03:09:04 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: michael McDonald backing vocals on "Peg" makes me chuckle....


Not "Peg", not even Steely Dan, but this SCTV sketch about Michael McDonald's backing vocals always makes me laugh.
 
2012-10-23 03:30:33 PM  
Miss Marlene is the choice track on this one IMO.
 
2012-10-23 03:33:17 PM  
Sunken Condos reminds me more of Kamakiriad than Nightfly and Morph.
 
2012-10-23 03:58:14 PM  

rickythepenguin: there's a cool youtube video of Fagen and Becker playing the multitracks from that session, with interview of the musicians. the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.



Yep.  And the bassist mentioned that he'd always make sure to have his back to everyone when they were doing it.
 
I don't think Fagen "missed" it.  He's far too much of a perfectionist.  I think he just let it slide because it works.
 
2012-10-23 04:08:14 PM  

downstairs: rickythepenguin: there's a cool youtube video of Fagen and Becker playing the multitracks from that session, with interview of the musicians. the bassist is like, "at the time, popping the bass was the new thing but they didn't want that, but......I popped all over that record" and they play it and you hear it.


Yep.  And the bassist mentioned that he'd always make sure to have his back to everyone when they were doing it.
 
I don't think Fagen "missed" it.  He's far too much of a perfectionist.  I think he just let it slide because it works.


Rick Derringer had an interview in "Guitar Player" ages ago about his sessions for "Show Biz Kids" - apparently he developed the slide lick on his own and came into the studio the next day to show it off. He played it for Fagen, who said: "Again."

So Derringer played it again. And again. And again. Eventually Becker walked over to listen, and he would alternate with Fagen saying "Again" after each repetition of the lick. Derringer said he played it about 200 times before Becker said "That might work."

Of course, they used another lick that Derringer had come up with, one he demoed at a rehearsal just before final recording.

Derringer said he loved working for Becker/Fagen, but they "would drive you farking nuts."

/making movies of themselves
 
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