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2012-10-22 04:12:11 PM
FTA: The biggest mystery hovering over the debate is not Iran's nuclear intentions, but the kind of foreign policy that Romney would pursue from the Oval Office.

Your guess is as good as his.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-22 04:32:02 PM
Vote Cassandra for president.
 
2012-10-22 04:36:26 PM
The problem is that nobody cares about foreign policy until Americans are coming home in flag draped coffins.
 
2012-10-22 04:44:51 PM

Aarontology: The problem is that nobody cares about foreign policy until Americans are coming home in flag draped coffins.


We only care about those ones, as an aside. If they come home in wheelchairs, well they're just lucky to be alive, and should quit whining about extensive medical care.
 
2012-10-22 04:49:15 PM

Elandriel: Aarontology: The problem is that nobody cares about foreign policy until Americans are coming home in flag draped coffins.

We only care about those ones, as an aside. If they come home in wheelchairs, well they're just lucky to be alive, and should quit whining about extensive medical care.


Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?
 
2012-10-22 04:59:52 PM

Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?


A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.
 
2012-10-22 05:04:10 PM
Mathison, subby, c'mon now.
 
2012-10-22 05:47:25 PM

Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.


I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.
 
2012-10-22 05:52:52 PM

Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.


Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.
 
2012-10-22 05:56:02 PM

WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.


what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?
 
2012-10-22 06:45:43 PM

mahuika: FTA: The biggest mystery hovering over the debate is not Iran's nuclear intentions, but the kind of foreign policy that Romney would pursue from the Oval Office.

Your guess is as good as his.


Well, duh. Netanyahu hasn't told Romney what his foreign policy is going to be just yet.
 
2012-10-22 06:45:55 PM
Romney would be wise to focus on 9/11 and Russia and how we will have to fight them, for tax purposes.
 
2012-10-22 06:46:27 PM

thomps: WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.

what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?


Probably a secret Muslim. You need to get a confederate flag and a militia membership to be entry level Patriot.
 
2012-10-22 06:46:27 PM
I hear Polynesia has been getting a bit uppity lately.
 
2012-10-22 06:48:20 PM
The problem with foreign policy debates is that we don't know what to ask

What's wrong with a post-mortem analysis of the handling of the last crisis? Competence or lack of same in handling crises 1 .. X would be a good indicator of how crisis X+1 is going to go. So here's the question: "When [insert crisis here] happened, you did [insert response here]. Why did it happen, why was that the response, and how did that response work out? Discuss."
 
2012-10-22 06:48:23 PM
Well then, make it into sound bite people can understand.

- Osama is dead x 10.
- Romney wants to start another Iraq war with Iran.
- Ending Iraq war was tragic.
- Not wanting to end Afghanistan.
- Russia is our #1 enemy
- He can't even finish a tour without insulting our allies.
- His policies are same as bush as he has the same people as advisers.
- Behind closed door, he talks about foreign policy that does not match with his stated policies.

Obama needs to be on the offense just like the 2nd debate all around.
 
2012-10-22 06:48:35 PM

thomps: WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.

what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?


Left-leaning moderate, like Hannity.
 
2012-10-22 06:48:36 PM

thomps: WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.

what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?


You're still a a queer. If they are not each wearing a "The South WILL Rise Again" T-shirt and sporting tattoos of Nathan Bedford Forrest, then you are just a lily-livered Jew England Yankee
 
2012-10-22 06:48:40 PM
Actually, considering that most of Romne'ys foreign policy team came straight from the Bush administration I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about his foreign policy positions: dick waving, unnecessary wars, nation building, flag-draped coffins, ineffectual negotiations, "you're either with us or against us", black sites, rendition, torture, poor relations with our allies, ignoring intelligence reports about threats to the US...

/ Have I missed anything?
 
2012-10-22 06:52:09 PM

phalamir: thomps: WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.

what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?

You're still a a queer. If they are not each wearing a "The South WILL Rise Again" T-shirt and sporting tattoos of Nathan Bedford Forrest, then you are just a lily-livered Jew England Yankee


If that "car" isn't a truck, then you aren't a Real MericanTM
/The truck must have a Rebel flag painted on the back window, in addition to a gun rack
 
2012-10-22 06:53:36 PM

Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.


I serve my country by putting both the ribbon and flag magnet, together with red white and blue truck nutz on my imported 8 cylinder SUV. When soldiers thank me for my service it is the greatest feeling in the world.
 
2012-10-22 06:57:04 PM

hershy799: phalamir: thomps: WorldCitizen: Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.

I'll have you know that adorning the roof of my bedroom is a These Colors Don't Run mural with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR bald eagles rolling up their sleeves and delivering freedom punches.

Meh, in the South that still considered a liberal, god hating socialist.

what if i were to tell you that each of those eagles was shedding a single tear with a tiny reflection of the smoldering twin towers reflecting in the tear drop?

You're still a a queer. If they are not each wearing a "The South WILL Rise Again" T-shirt and sporting tattoos of Nathan Bedford Forrest, then you are just a lily-livered Jew England Yankee

If that "car" isn't a truck, then you aren't a Real MericanTM
/The truck must have a Rebel flag painted on the back window, in addition to a gun rack


No Truck Nutz? Commie.
 
2012-10-22 06:57:08 PM
I'll play Cassandra for future issues.

Mexican cartels become a significant threat in american cities with a first case of mass murder and dumping of bodies. White bodies.
China decides it will not export lithium except as integral components.
The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt makes hostile moves regarding Israel.
Something something Eurozone crisis.
IT services from firms based in India and Bangladesh are devastating the American programmer by making them compete with people willing to work for $10k a year.
The public is now hearing about Federal Prison Labor taking jobs from regular Americans while also competing with prison labor in China.

Format those as debate points and you've got a chunk of the future.
 
2012-10-22 06:57:11 PM

jjorsett: The problem with foreign policy debates is that we don't know what to ask

What's wrong with a post-mortem analysis of the handling of the last crisis? Competence or lack of same in handling crises 1 .. X would be a good indicator of how crisis X+1 is going to go. So here's the question: "When [insert crisis here] happened, you did [insert response here]. Why did it happen, why was that the response, and how did that response work out? Discuss."


This only works if the candidates both have some kind of actual experience.
 
2012-10-22 06:57:27 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Actually, considering that most of Romne'ys foreign policy team came straight from the Bush administration I think we can make some reasonable assumptions about his foreign policy positions: dick waving, unnecessary wars, nation building, flag-draped coffins, ineffectual negotiations, "you're either with us or against us", black sites, rendition, torture, poor relations with our allies, ignoring intelligence reports about threats to the US...

/ Have I missed anything?


Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together.... MASS HYSTERIA!
 
2012-10-22 06:58:19 PM
ps69: I serve my country by putting both the ribbon and flag magnet, together with red white and blue truck nutz on my imported 8 cylinder SUV.

the magnets and nutz are also imported
 
2012-10-22 06:58:52 PM

Aarontology: The problem is that nobody cares about foreign policy until Americans are coming home in flag draped coffins.


Yeah, given that the public rarely saw the images of the cargohold full of those flag draped coffins because a certain administration didn't allow them to be photographed "out of respect" for the families.

This is enough to melt the hardest of hearts too.

www.patentbaristas.com

A vote for Romney and the Republicans at large is a vote for more images like that.

//War with Iran is not an option.
 
2012-10-22 06:59:55 PM

ultraholland: ps69: I serve my country by putting both the ribbon and flag magnet, together with red white and blue truck nutz on my imported 8 cylinder SUV.

the magnets and nutz are also imported


But they come with a free frozen yogurt which I call Frogurt!
 
2012-10-22 07:02:43 PM
wippit: But they come with a free frozen yogurt which I call Frogurt!

That's good!
 
2012-10-22 07:03:23 PM
We have to have foreign policy debates, because WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
 
2012-10-22 07:04:47 PM

ultraholland: wippit: But they come with a free frozen yogurt which I call Frogurt!

That's good!


The Frogurt is also imported.
 
2012-10-22 07:06:25 PM

meat0918: This is enough to melt the hardest of hearts too.

[www.patentbaristas.com image 640x411]

A vote for Romney and the Republicans at large is a vote for more images like that.

//War with Iran is not an option.


www.salem-news.com /hot
 
2012-10-22 07:09:56 PM
I mentioned in an earlier thread, these are the topics the debate will cover:

* America's role in the world
* Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
* Red Lines - Israel and Iran
* The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
* The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
* The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World


All but one topic is about the area from East Asia to North Africa (maybe two questions, but America's role in the Middle East is the primary discussion politicians try to have.) I understand military operations is an important to politics, but that isn't the ONLY thing foreign policy involves. The fact that only one out of six topics is about our trade partners (and it's the one Romney's threatening to start a trade war with) is going to be discussed is ridiculous.

The number one issue that could screw us over personally isn't Russia or China or Iran. The European Union and the continued twists and turns with Greece and other nations decimated by the financial crisis will continue to be all it takes to send us plunging back into a recession if the politicians let pride and populist anger throw good sense out the window and default. The fact that it doesn't deserve it's own question because we need to dedicate 80% of our time to discussing the Middle East is insane.
 
2012-10-22 07:13:00 PM

Pocket Ninja: Aarontology: Well, I put a yellow magnet on my car. You can't expect anything else, can you?

A yellow magnet, huh? Couldn't even be bothered to put an "I support the troops" flag on there, too? I swear, people like you who can't even go the extra mile just make me sick. I bet you don't even have a single "freedom isn't free" bracelet anywhere in your house.


Probably not, but I'm betting he's sporting a rainbow colored headband for the weekend clubbing.
 
2012-10-22 07:15:10 PM
I'm just afraid Romney is going to open is mouth and cause a crisis even before the election. I wonder what (if anything) his 'China a currency manipulator on day one' comment stirred up.
 
2012-10-22 07:19:56 PM

meat0918: Aarontology: The problem is that nobody cares about foreign policy until Americans are coming home in flag draped coffins.

Yeah, given that the public rarely saw the images of the cargohold full of those flag draped coffins because a certain administration didn't allow them to be photographed "out of respect" for the families.

This is enough to melt the hardest of hearts too.

[www.patentbaristas.com image 640x411]

A vote for Romney and the Republicans at large is a vote for more images like that.

//War with Iran is not an option.


WFT? Do they have photographers at the cemetaries to take pictures of mourners, you know, like those pics you get on the log ride at King's Island?

That pic is staged bullshiat. A photo op. Pitiful.
 
2012-10-22 07:23:40 PM

Tumunga: Probably not, but I'm betting he's sporting a rainbow colored headband for the weekend clubbing.


You only club baby seals on the week-ends?!?!?!?!?!?! Commie!
 
2012-10-22 07:24:06 PM

Tumunga: WFT?


Yeah! What fark The?!!
 
2012-10-22 07:28:58 PM

coyo: I'm just afraid Romney is going to open is mouth and cause a crisis even before the election. I wonder what (if anything) his 'China a currency manipulator on day one' comment stirred up.


Pretty good roundup of why the anti-China attacks are silly and what the Chinese reaction is. Summary: Chinese leadership recognize/hope this is all populist grandstanding and the neither candidate will follow through on getting tougher on them. Meanwhile, the Chinese press does it's own populism-stirring by reporting breathlessly about what horrible ways the United States is threatening them and it's souring the public's view of us.
 
2012-10-22 07:30:56 PM
I have some questions:

- Governor Romney, you have frequently stated that America needs to take a position of leadership in the world. Would you please define your philosophy on American leadership?
- Governor Romney, you have made the claim that President Obama has not signed a single trade agreement during his Administration, but last year he signed agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama, the last of which goes into effect next week. Would you please clarify your position?
- President Obama, pretty much everyone, including Governor Romney, Senator Clinton and Senator Biden, disagreed with your 2008 position on entering Pakistan to deal with terrorist targets of high interest. Given the results of the bin Laden raid, has your philosophy on this matter changed?
- Governor Romney, you claim that you will get tough on China and will bring back manufacturing jobs that your company, Bain Capital, helped send there. Would you please clarify your position on China?
- President Obama, despite your promise to close the containment facility at Guantanamo Bay, you have been stymied in this effort by the Congress. In your second term, how do you plan to deal with this issue?
- President Obama, under your administration, the use of unmanned drones in warfare has increased exponentially. What steps have you taken to ensure that your administration and future administrations do mot misuse this capability.
- Governor Romney, many of your advisers are the same people who advocated for war with Iraq and who have long advocated for war with Iran. As President, will you feel pressured to engage in war with Iran?
 
2012-10-22 07:32:36 PM

Tumunga: That pic is staged bullshiat. A photo op. Pitiful.


Yeah, it'd be much better to have photogs hovering around funerals getting candid shots. People love that.
 
2012-10-22 07:34:04 PM

Mentat: I have some questions:

- Governor Romney, you have frequently stated that America needs to take a position of leadership in the world. Would you please define your philosophy on American leadership?
- Governor Romney, you have made the claim that President Obama has not signed a single trade agreement during his Administration, but last year he signed agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama, the last of which goes into effect next week. Would you please clarify your position?
- President Obama, pretty much everyone, including Governor Romney, Senator Clinton and Senator Biden, disagreed with your 2008 position on entering Pakistan to deal with terrorist targets of high interest. Given the results of the bin Laden raid, has your philosophy on this matter changed?
- Governor Romney, you claim that you will get tough on China and will bring back manufacturing jobs that your company, Bain Capital, helped send there. Would you please clarify your position on China?
- President Obama, despite your promise to close the containment facility at Guantanamo Bay, you have been stymied in this effort by the Congress. In your second term, how do you plan to deal with this issue?
- President Obama, under your administration, the use of unmanned drones in warfare has increased exponentially. What steps have you taken to ensure that your administration and future administrations do mot misuse this capability.
- Governor Romney, many of your advisers are the same people who advocated for war with Iraq and who have long advocated for war with Iran. As President, will you feel pressured to engage in war with Iran?


Vote Mentat for debate moderator!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-22 07:34:47 PM
Ideal debate opening, moderator asking the questions:

"President Obama, do you admit your administration farked up Benghazi consulate security and the aftermath of the attack?"

"That's a complicated question, I --"

*bzzt* "Sorry, you're obviously still in denial, I will have to remove you from this debate."

"Now, Governor Romney, will you promise not to fark up your foreign policy?"

"Of course I won't."

*bzzt" "I'm sorry, Governor, you and I both know you will. I'm going to have to remove you from this debate. And now, audience, since the lying politicians are out of the room I can share with you some highlights from the novel I've been working on..."
 
2012-10-22 07:36:13 PM

wippit: ultraholland: wippit: But they come with a free frozen yogurt which I call Frogurt!

That's good!

The Frogurt is also imported.


That's bad
 
2012-10-22 07:37:04 PM

Mentat: I have some questions:

- Governor Romney, you have frequently stated that America needs to take a position of leadership in the world. Would you please define your philosophy on American leadership?

-See this government has been a failure. It has made america weak.....

- Governor Romney, you have made the claim that President Obama has not signed a single trade agreement during his Administration, but last year he signed agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama, the last of which goes into effect next week. Would you please clarify your position?
-See this gov has been a failure. It has made america weak ....
- President Obama, pretty much everyone, including Governor Romney, Senator Clinton and Senator Biden, disagreed with your 2008 position on entering Pakistan to deal with terrorist targets of high interest. Given the results of the bin Laden raid, has your philosophy on this matter changed?
- Governor Romney, you claim that you will get tough on China and will bring back manufacturing jobs that your company, Bain Capital, helped send there. Would you please clarify your position on China?
- President Obama, despite your promise to close the containment facility at Guantanamo Bay, you have been stymied in this effort by the Congress. In your second term, how do you plan to deal with this issue?
- President Obama, under your administration, the use of unmanned drones in warfare has increased exponentially. What steps have you taken to ensure that your administration and future administrations do mot misuse this capability.
- Governor Romney, many of your advisers are the same people who advocated for war with Iraq and who have long advocated for war with Iran. As President, will you feel pressured to engage in war with Iran?


You got the idea. I will stop.
 
2012-10-22 07:42:42 PM
If was to make a prediction about future foreign policy issues, I would predict that the solidifying and rising Islamic Emirate in Somalia would start getting in on the war on terror, for the terrorists. And going back to Mogadishu would be a PR nightmare.
 
2012-10-22 07:47:56 PM

ZAZ: "President Obama, do you admit your administration farked up Benghazi consulate security and the aftermath of the attack?


ZAZ: "Now, Governor Romney, will you promise not to fark up your foreign policy?"


Wow, really? These are equivalent to you?
 
2012-10-22 07:51:09 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: - Governor Romney, you have made the claim that President Obama has not signed a single trade agreement during his Administration, but last year he signed agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama, the last of which goes into effect next week. Would you please clarify your position?


I finally figured out the answer to that one: he said Obama hasn't signed any NEW trade agreements, and all three countries had been contacted as early as 2007 by the State Department to begin negotiating a trade deal. So yes, it is true that Obama didn't start these trade agreements, his administration only negotiated them over a period of over four years to iron out all the details. The fact that he hasn't signed a trade agreement that his administration contacted the government of that Bush hasn't proves he doesn't believe in international capitalism as an economic driver even if he has pushed for more trade with plenty of countries and has presided over a falling trade deficit as manufacturing jobs have increased in the last few years. That explain it?

Would be a funny question to ask him just because he'll try his hardest to refer to him only as "the previous President" since it's apparent George W. Bush's name is verboten in the Romney campaign.
 
2012-10-22 07:55:26 PM

Grungehamster: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: - Governor Romney, you have made the claim that President Obama has not signed a single trade agreement during his Administration, but last year he signed agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama, the last of which goes into effect next week. Would you please clarify your position?

I finally figured out the answer to that one: he said Obama hasn't signed any NEW trade agreements, and all three countries had been contacted as early as 2007 by the State Department to begin negotiating a trade deal. So yes, it is true that Obama didn't start these trade agreements, his administration only negotiated them over a period of over four years to iron out all the details. The fact that he hasn't signed a trade agreement that his administration contacted the government of that Bush hasn't proves he doesn't believe in international capitalism as an economic driver even if he has pushed for more trade with plenty of countries and has presided over a falling trade deficit as manufacturing jobs have increased in the last few years. That explain it?

Would be a funny question to ask him just because he'll try his hardest to refer to him only as "the previous President" since it's apparent George W. Bush's name is verboten in the Romney campaign.


I find it astounding that, on the one hand, Obama hasn't signed any new trade agreements, because the negotiations for the ones he has signed were started under Bush, but at the same time, Obama is responsible for TARP, which was started under Bush.

The cognitive dissonance is simply stunning.
 
2012-10-22 07:57:36 PM
Taking unofficial and useless bets about how soon into the debates fark's servers will crash. I give it 25 minutes.
 
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