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(Entertainment Weekly)   Asian Iron Man villain, The Mandarin, is now a white Mongolian portrayed by a British Indian   (insidemovies.ew.com) divider line 23
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2012-10-22 06:30:04 PM
2 votes:
Ben Kingsley is the slightly classier version of Nicholas Cage. He also seems to never turn a script down, but makes up for the scenery eating villain roles by doing a great filme every other year or so.
2012-10-22 06:02:35 PM
2 votes:
If upload.wikimedia.org can be played by upload.wikimedia.org, then I have no problem with it.
2012-10-22 05:21:38 PM
2 votes:
Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?
2012-10-22 02:13:46 PM
2 votes:
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2012-10-22 08:59:05 PM
1 votes:

elvindeath: Very disappointed with Fark. i thought for sure this thread would devolve into a "Hot Asian" thread.



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/probably not what most farkers in the thread were hoping for with your statement, I know.... 
//hot-cha-cha
2012-10-22 08:42:20 PM
1 votes:
To all concerned: Avengers has ONE villain.

Loki was the Villain - The entire plot is driven by his desire to cause massive levels of bad shiat to happen to everyone.

The Chituari were Mooks. They exist solely to give the Villain something to threaten the world with, and to give the heroes something to punch.

Dr. Selvig (Skarsgard) was a glorified Evil Minion. Glorified in the sense that he had a name and speaking parts.

The Shadowy Figure (Thanos) was a plot device and tease for Avengers 2 (and, I suspect, Guardians of the Galaxy) -- he never confronts the protagonists, and his only relevance to the plot is that he explains where Loki got all these freaking alien warrior minions from.

But yeah, the only villain in The Avengers is Loki.

As for movies with too many villains: You have to differentiate between villain in the literary sense of antagonistic dramatis personae whose actions drives the plot and villain in the comic sense of guy in tights with an evil sounding name and superpowers.

Because you can totally have a movie with many comic-book villains and have it rock. Look at the first X-Men movie, with Toad, Sabertooth, Mystique and Magneto. Totally works, really good X-Men film.

The problem with the Batman and Spider-Man movies is that the villains aren't a team, they're a team-up. They each have their own plots, which creates conflict, and they end becoming the focus of the movie. It becomes a movie about them teaming up, with the hero relegated to a B-plot that involves defeating them. Or, in the particularly bad cases, they are forced together in a truly contrived way that makes the whole movie feel cheap. (Personally, I think Batman Returns is the only superhero movie that ever pulled multiple villains off).

An Iron Man film can have a dozen villains from his comic and not have it be an issue. They've already introduced Justin Hammer, and part of what makes Hammer a threat in the comic is that he has the capacity and the will to hand out ultra-high tech weaponry systems to common thugs and criminals, and then sic them en masse against Iron Man. And the Mandarin has plenty of super-powered lackies and minions of his own.
2012-10-22 08:27:42 PM
1 votes:

natmar_76: QUESTION: Who cares?


Lots of people do, the problem is that it's for the wrong reason. No one's actually upset that they chose a great actor to play a notorious villain. They either just want to biatch about something that a comic book movie does/doesn't do right or they want to flaunt their geek cred. Usually both. They'll still be there on opening night with a fistful of money, ready and willing. Also, it's the internet and it's fun to argue about shiat that doesn't matter.
2012-10-22 07:33:55 PM
1 votes:
That's SIR Ben Kingsley to you, whineylittlebiatch-mitter.
An actor of that caliber wants to play in your movie, you find a goddamn role for him.
Same goddamn reason Idris Elba played Heimdall.
2012-10-22 06:49:34 PM
1 votes:

Ryker's Peninsula: Should have been Chow Yun-Fat.


Would have been awesome, I grant you. But still okay with Kingsley.
2012-10-22 06:47:00 PM
1 votes:
Well it IS Ben Kingsley, so I guess it's ok
2012-10-22 06:40:44 PM
1 votes:
Should have been Chow Yun-Fat.
2012-10-22 06:36:39 PM
1 votes:
Should have been a Chinese, but I'm ok with this.
2012-10-22 06:34:52 PM
1 votes:
Kingsley's a decent actor and a better villain makes a better movie.

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2012-10-22 06:11:16 PM
1 votes:

texdent: If [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x358] can be played by [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x370], then I have no problem with it.


www.hmss.com nods in agreement, but when he does he looks like latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com
2012-10-22 05:56:30 PM
1 votes:
The dude played Gandhi. I'm okay with this.
2012-10-22 05:49:33 PM
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

Because what could be better then having Iron Man fight the Mandarin, Crimson Dynamo, Doctor Doom, Force, Living Laser, Man Bull, M.O.D.O.K., Ultron, and Whirl Wind all in one movie? No silly character development, no touching moments with Pepper, who gives a fark about Tony Stark, just one long 210 minute super hero smack down scene after another.


Why do people say this like it's a bad thing? I know who Stark is and his personality, I get that he and pepper are boinking. I pay the money to see IRON MAN, not Tony Stark.
2012-10-22 05:47:09 PM
1 votes:

Meethos: NeoCortex42: Trocadero: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x659]

Cruise was playing a white guy, though. They didn't pretend he was Japanese.

Also, samurai is being used in its plural form. So tired of that movie being trotted out.


rateeveryanimal.com

Here's one. If you read the book or read about the actual events behind it, it was about a bunch of Asian MIT students who taught themselves to count cards and broke the bank in Vegas. So when they made the movie for it, they decided to make the cast mostly white.
2012-10-22 05:46:21 PM
1 votes:
Asian Iron Man villain, The Mandarin, is now a white Mongolianan Asian portrayed by a British IndianAsian

FTFY subby.

/Asia's a big place.
2012-10-22 05:36:35 PM
1 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2012-10-22 05:29:17 PM
1 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Yeah, but Jet Li's English, while better than it used to be, isn't up to the level needed for a role such as the Mandarin.


Why not Donnie Yen then, who speaks perfect English, with a Boston accent to boot.
2012-10-22 04:34:22 PM
1 votes:
Wait, this is a surprise to people? Yinsen, in the first movie was originally Ho Yinsen, a generic East Asian doctor who was captured with Stark in Vietnam.

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But since the context of Stark's origin story has been changed to the Middle East, his character was made into a Middle-eastern doctor (though he kept the Chinese name for no reason).

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
2012-10-22 02:35:48 PM
1 votes:
i249.photobucket.com

Herro? Is dis Tony Stahk? I be kicking you ass in next movie, pal! You in beeeeeeeg trubbah!
2012-10-22 02:11:05 PM
1 votes:
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