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PhiloeBedoe		2012-10-22 01:51:48 PM

What a British Indian might look like:
i402.photobucket.com

James!		2012-10-22 02:00:03 PM

Ghandi?

Diogenes		2012-10-22 02:01:29 PM

James!: Ghandi?

Alternate universe.

Aarontology		2012-10-22 02:06:49 PM

Indians are Asians

James!		2012-10-22 02:09:40 PM

Aarontology: Indians are Asians

Native Americas?

Bathia_Mapes		2012-10-22 02:11:05 PM

DanZero		2012-10-22 02:13:46 PM

Aarontology		2012-10-22 02:18:14 PM

James!: Aarontology: Indians are Asians

Native Americas?

Totes

Gecko Gingrich		2012-10-22 02:19:51 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats		2012-10-22 02:35:07 PM

Yeah, but Jet Li's English, while better than it used to be, isn't up to the level needed for a role such as the Mandarin.

give me doughnuts		2012-10-22 02:35:48 PM

Herro? Is dis Tony Stahk? I be kicking you ass in next movie, pal! You in beeeeeeeg trubbah!

I_C_Weener		2012-10-22 02:55:38 PM

Sybarite		2012-10-22 02:57:33 PM

Damn you Mongorians!

I_C_Weener		2012-10-22 02:59:37 PM

An American Jewish Egyptian Prince.

Slaxl		2012-10-22 03:13:15 PM

The best thing about old films is seeing Englishmen or Americans being Africans, or Indians, or Chinese, or just about anything, because we're the best actors, we can even play their race better than they can. Case in point already made in this thread, Mickey Rooney.

SlothB77		2012-10-22 03:16:39 PM

just go with the Russians again. unoriginal cowards.

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats		2012-10-22 03:35:14 PM

Sybarite: Damn you Mongorians!

Coincidentally, I think this is the last South Park episode I've ever watched.

/it was hilarious

Diogenes		2012-10-22 04:00:52 PM

I don't know about their villainy, but I sure do love their barbeque.

brap		2012-10-22 04:04:55 PM

If you were The Mandarin you'd be destined for evil, what with all the smartarses prank calling you and ordering General Tso's chicken egg drop soup every day.

RexTalionis		2012-10-22 04:34:22 PM

Wait, this is a surprise to people? Yinsen, in the first movie was originally Ho Yinsen, a generic East Asian doctor who was captured with Stark in Vietnam.

upload.wikimedia.org

But since the context of Stark's origin story has been changed to the Middle East, his character was made into a Middle-eastern doctor (though he kept the Chinese name for no reason).

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

unlikely		2012-10-22 05:21:38 PM

Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

Rwa2play		2012-10-22 05:24:52 PM

Snapper Carr		2012-10-22 05:26:44 PM

To be fair, Kingsley has had success playing Asians before

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fusillade762		2012-10-22 05:27:00 PM

You're the problem! You're the farking problem you farking Dr White honkin' jam-rag farking spunk-bubble! I'm telling you Aitch you keep looking at me I'll put you in the farking ground, promise you!

T.rex		2012-10-22 05:27:15 PM

Shazam999		2012-10-22 05:29:17 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Yeah, but Jet Li's English, while better than it used to be, isn't up to the level needed for a role such as the Mandarin.

Why not Donnie Yen then, who speaks perfect English, with a Boston accent to boot.

Phaeon		2012-10-22 05:29:31 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 673x382]

I have that on SNES. So much harder than arcade or Sega. Couldn't get past the Mandarin until I was a teenager.

/City -> Bigger City -> Bottom of the Ocean -> Space -> Moonbase
/perfect sense!

Jedekai		2012-10-22 05:29:58 PM

unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

Quick.

If you were born between 1975-1985 I want you to name Batman's most important villain.

Now Spider-Man.

Great; but they're backstories take too long, and actually MAKE SENSE, so remove those.

Now, since we need a reason for the character actually being in the movie, he needs dynamism. Choose one:

A) He's scary
B) He's lost the will to live.
C) He knows only hatred, loss or ignorance.
D) He's a giant pile of special effects.

Congratulations; you just figured out how to make a truly great villain a horrible, useless, oversized, lumbering plot hole.

/At least Sam Raimi (silently) admitted that he hated what Sony made him do (shoehorn Venom into SM3 - instead of having SM4 a GIANT Spider-Man Vs. Venom arc)... purely by a fan's question at a 2008 meet-n'-greet at Comic-Con; "At the end of Spider-Man 3, Venom gets out of the river, but Spider-Man thinks he's dead... does that mean Venom kills him and Mary Jane?"

::CUE THE MOST EVIL SMILE ON EARTH::

/Don't piass off the director who already has a "plan-B" in case the Studio farks with him.

Slaves2Darkness		2012-10-22 05:30:22 PM

moothemagiccow		2012-10-22 05:32:16 PM

The Mandarin's late father was one of the wealthiest men in pre-revolutionary mainland China (and a descendant of Genghis Khan), while his late mother was an English noblewoman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(comics)

Just be thankful he's not being played by a Swede

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Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo		2012-10-22 05:34:35 PM

Gandhi II?

/HEY BALDY!

Trocadero		2012-10-22 05:36:35 PM

Bryntryst		2012-10-22 05:37:17 PM

It makes sense when you think about it.

unlikely		2012-10-22 05:38:17 PM

Rwa2play: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

You know how I know you didn't see "The Avengers?"

Name the three villains in the Avengers. Go ahead.

NeoCortex42		2012-10-22 05:38:22 PM

Trocadero: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x659]

Cruise was playing a white guy, though. They didn't pretend he was Japanese.

NeoCortex42		2012-10-22 05:39:11 PM

unlikely: Rwa2play: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

You know how I know you didn't see "The Avengers?"

Name the three villains in the Avengers. Go ahead.

Loki, Thanos, the aliens (Skrull?), Hulk(?)

RexTalionis		2012-10-22 05:40:09 PM

mhd		2012-10-22 05:40:14 PM

What, an Asian role that's not played by Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa?

/Now that Mako is dead

Mors		2012-10-22 05:40:58 PM

Meethos		2012-10-22 05:41:42 PM

NeoCortex42: Trocadero: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x659]

Cruise was playing a white guy, though. They didn't pretend he was Japanese.

Also, samurai is being used in its plural form. So tired of that movie being trotted out.

iron de havilland		2012-10-22 05:46:21 PM

Asian Iron Man villain, The Mandarin, is now ~~a white Mongolian~~an Asian portrayed by a British ~~Indian~~Asian

FTFY subby.

/Asia's a big place.

Mad_Radhu		2012-10-22 05:46:35 PM

Knows a thing or two about Mongolians and Mandarin.

media.screened.com

IrateShadow		2012-10-22 05:46:56 PM

What's up with the new Iron Man suit? Way too much gold.

RexTalionis		2012-10-22 05:47:09 PM

Meethos: NeoCortex42: Trocadero: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x659]

Cruise was playing a white guy, though. They didn't pretend he was Japanese.

Also, samurai is being used in its plural form. So tired of that movie being trotted out.

rateeveryanimal.com

Here's one. If you read the book or read about the actual events behind it, it was about a bunch of Asian MIT students who taught themselves to count cards and broke the bank in Vegas. So when they made the movie for it, they decided to make the cast mostly white.

moothemagiccow		2012-10-22 05:48:08 PM

unlikely		2012-10-22 05:48:47 PM

RexTalionis: unlikely: Rwa2play: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

You know how I know you didn't see "The Avengers?"

Name the three villains in the Avengers. Go ahead.

Loki, the Skrulls (look, I know they're Chitauri, but that's a stupid name, so I'm going to call them the Skrulls), and Hawkeye for half the movie.

You see how that's different than trying to cram a new goblin, Sandman, and Venom into a single film, right?

Except that Loki was really the only villain in the film, with the Skrulls (I kinda like Mors's Battledroid thing) as basically henchmen/cannon fodder, and Hawkeye being not so much a villain as a casualty.

Even if you take them all as something other than Loki's goons, the film is supposed to be an ensemble, which is a completely different animal than title-hero films.

The Gentleman Caller		2012-10-22 05:49:33 PM

Slaves2Darkness: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

Because what could be better then having Iron Man fight the Mandarin, Crimson Dynamo, Doctor Doom, Force, Living Laser, Man Bull, M.O.D.O.K., Ultron, and Whirl Wind all in one movie? No silly character development, no touching moments with Pepper, who gives a fark about Tony Stark, just one long 210 minute super hero smack down scene after another.

Why do people say this like it's a bad thing? I know who Stark is and his personality, I get that he and pepper are boinking. I pay the money to see IRON MAN, not Tony Stark.

Mad_Radhu		2012-10-22 05:50:13 PM

RexTalionis: Loki, the Skrulls (look, I know they're Chitauri, but that's a stupid name, so I'm going to call them the Skrulls), and Hawkeye for half the movie.

Not to mention Nick Fury's trigger happy bosses, the scientist from Thor, and Tony Stark's ego were also key antagonists.

moothemagiccow		2012-10-22 05:50:28 PM

Slaves2Darkness: unlikely: Looking at the IMDB entry and all the names represented in the cast, I worry that this movie is going to fall into "Too Many Villains" syndrome.

Why does every superhero franchise have to keep adding villains with each sequel? Haven't they figured out by now that adding villains is the step before "complete fail"?

90s Batman didn't teach us anything?
Nor Spider Man?

Because what could be better then having Iron Man fight the Mandarin, Crimson Dynamo, Doctor Doom, Force, Living Laser, Man Bull, M.O.D.O.K., Ultron, and Whirl Wind all in one movie? No silly character development, no touching moments with Pepper, who gives a fark about Tony Stark, just one long 210 minute super hero smack down scene after another.

That's what Avengers was. That's why it sucked. Also Fox owns Doom because he's primarily an FF villain

unlikely		2012-10-22 05:51:08 PM

Mors: Loki, Loki's Lucas-Battledroid invasion force (theysa broken!), and the shadowy nether figure that wasn't in the film.

And yeah, this is closest to it.

Compare that to trying to shoehorn in Mr. Freeze, Bane, and Poison Ivy. I'm not even counting the countless Frisbee-wielding goons and stuff that movie had.

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