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(The Indy Channel)   Problem: Absentee voters are voting for Obama. Solution: Raise postage on Absentee ballots and not tell anyone. Fark: USPS sends them anyways   (theindychannel.com) divider line 163
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2012-10-22 11:00:43 PM
In Canada you can send mail to the government with no postage, or by writing 'In service of Her Majesty' on the envelope...few do it however (me included), just in case.

/Useless factoid.
 
2012-10-22 11:31:34 PM
What kind of shiat federal postal system doesn't accept an absentee ballot as postage paid in a goddamn federal election??
 
2012-10-23 12:01:24 AM

Bloody William: Why the fark are ballots not postage-paid?


My Minnesota ballot was. Electronic tracking as well so I can see it was received and accepted on the Secretary of State's website.
 
2012-10-23 12:37:52 AM

Nadie_AZ: serial_crusher: People in Ohio vote by mail to stand in line? How antiquated? They might as well send smoke signals.

Here in Texas we have early voting. You get a whole week to just show up whenever's convenient to you. I'll be heading out on Wednesday to support my favorite of two evils and let my opinion that doesn't matter anyhow be heard.

I voted by mail. The ballot came with an envelope with prepaid postage. Been that way for every election I've voted by mail, here. It is nice to sit down and think things over, do some homework, then stick it in the mail and be done with it. Easy.


Ohio has more bootstraps than Arizona
 
2012-10-23 01:03:42 AM

BoxOfBees: FlashHarry: Bloody William: Why the fark are ballots not postage-paid?

for the same reason election day isn't a national holiday (or moved to a sunday). republicans want fewer people to vote.

I'm a Libertarian (a real one, unlike Republicans who say they are) and I want fewer people to vote. Most people are stupid and uninformed. I want it to be more difficult for them to vote because someone who works a little harder to vote might also work hard enough to find out who's running and where they stand on the issues.

Have you seen/heard interviews with voters who don't know the names or stances of the candidates? You want more people to vote? People who can't recognize Biden or Romney but can recognize probably hundreds of movie and TV stars. People who think Obama is a pro-lifer? I know we can't and probably shouldn't prevent stupid people from voting, but doesn't it bother you just a little bit that some with IQ just barely above potato gets the same number of votes as you do? At least make them deviate from the route between their home and their meth dealer to make sure they actually want to vote. Or put a couple of stamps on the envelope.


Because the kinds of people you're talking about aren't filling out early/absentee voting forms, hell they're probably part of the 40-50% who can't be bothered to vote no matter HOW many times P-Diddy or Ashton Kutcher tells them that they'll be killed if they don't.
 
2012-10-23 01:30:41 AM

downstairs: Bloody William: Why the fark are ballots not postage-paid?


I would have thought that too, but it is technically a convenience.
 
Now, if someone is abroad for work, or in the military on the other side of the planet... I would hope those are postage-paid.


We are a military family in Rota, Spain. We sent out for absentee ballots in Michigan back about two months ago, and again about s month ago when we heard nothing in return.

We still haven't got them.

So we'll be doing a write in, I think, and trying our part to make sure Mitt doesn't take the Mitten.
 
2012-10-23 01:35:19 AM

Bloody William: Why the fark are ballots not postage-paid?


Been saying this for years.

That said my absentee ballot always comes with a slip of paper reminding me it takes extra postage.

But I'm registered in a 90%* *white* town so I'm not actively disenfranchised.

* a good % of that 90% are Arabic Christian and or Muslim but they count as white (according to the census) so don't show up on the RNC disenfranchise list yetm
 
2012-10-23 03:56:25 AM
Been said before, I'll say it again...

The USPS will deliver mail for want of a few cents of postage.

It has been determined that it was often a SUBSTANTIAL cost to the USPS to RETURN mail to the original sender for INSUFFICIENT postage because it required actual handling by a postal worker, whereas, most mail just flows through machines; therefore, it was just cost effective to deliver the farking thing.

Those workers at processing facilities are farking busting their asses off for all of us and they're seriously unappreciated.
 
2012-10-23 04:06:01 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Time to add the US Postal Service to the LOPCATGOPATA.

 
2012-10-23 06:54:18 AM
I live overseas and vote absentee. I could either bring it to the local US Embassy or Consulate and they would put it in the delivery bag back to the US or I could scan it and submit it online to my state elections people. Both options were free. I could also pay the Swiss Post and mail it normally or pay for FedEx/UPS if I wanted, both at my own cost.

The Arizona online ballot submission website was broken but the staff said they were accepting ballots by email. While I'm sure they're legit people there and they confirmed the receipt of my ballot by email, I really wish there was some way of verifying that it was actually counted.
 
2012-10-23 07:58:58 AM

heypete: I live overseas and vote absentee. I could either bring it to the local US Embassy or Consulate and they would put it in the delivery bag back to the US or I could scan it and submit it online to my state elections people. Both options were free. I could also pay the Swiss Post and mail it normally or pay for FedEx/UPS if I wanted, both at my own cost.

The Arizona online ballot submission website was broken but the staff said they were accepting ballots by email. While I'm sure they're legit people there and they confirmed the receipt of my ballot by email, I really wish there was some way of verifying that it was actually counted.


I'm sure they counted it as long as you voted straight GOP
 
2012-10-23 12:44:19 PM

heypete: I live overseas and vote absentee. I could either bring it to the local US Embassy or Consulate and they would put it in the delivery bag back to the US or I could scan it and submit it online to my state elections people. Both options were free. I could also pay the Swiss Post and mail it normally or pay for FedEx/UPS if I wanted, both at my own cost.

The Arizona online ballot submission website was broken but the staff said they were accepting ballots by email. While I'm sure they're legit people there and they confirmed the receipt of my ballot by email, I really wish there was some way of verifying that it was actually counted.


Yours wasn't postpaid? It might in fact depend on the state, but I was under the impression that overseas was regulated by federal laws (UOCAVA et al).

When I sent mine in, the envelope they gave me looked a lot like a business reply mail envelope, only with "International" all over it. I took it into the branch of La Poste near my office, asked the lady at the counter if it was good to go or if I needed to buy more postage for it. She said it was fine, stamped a postmark on it, and tossed it into the outgoing bin.

Then again, she may or may not have been giving a shiat, but whatever, it's been taken care of.
 
2012-10-23 01:02:40 PM

Robo Beat: Yours wasn't postpaid? It might in fact depend on the state, but I was under the impression that overseas was regulated by federal laws (UOCAVA et al).


To be fair, when I signed up for overseas voting they gave me the choice between them mailing me the ballot and emailing it. In the former, I imagine it would be prepaid. I ended up choosing the latter option, as it was far more convenient. Either way I could just drop it off at the embassy (which is about two blocks from my lab, so not really out of the way at all) and it'd go back for free.

I think it's pretty sad that my bank here in Switzerland can digitally sign and timestamp all of their communications with me (including PDF bank statements, credit card bills, etc.) to ensure the integrity of the documents but the PDF ballot isn't signed. That seems like a pretty basic thing to do when sending such files. With a simple ballot like this (it's the kind where you connect the head and tail of an arrow with a thick line), it seems that it'd be trivial to have the "click here to have Adobe Reader complete the line" function, much like they do with putting "x"s in checkboxes and whatnot. Instead, they want me to print out the PDF of the ballot and mark my decisions in pen, then print out the affidavit where I swear that I am who I claim to be, then scan both and email (or submit online, but that was broken) them the files back. I did that, but also digitally signed/timestamped the files to ensure their integrity.

/not voting GOP in Arizona, so the integrity of my ballot is of some concern to me.
 
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