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(Chicago Trib)   Clear Channel to take down billboards in minority neighborhoods in Ohio warning of the criminal consequences of voter fraud, after suddenly remembering their rules prohibit accepting political ads from secret clients   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 39
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2012-10-22 10:20:13 AM
If minorities would just settle down and let their betters choose the leaders we wouldn't need billboards, or voter roll purges, or voter I.D. laws...
 
2012-10-22 10:26:07 AM
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.
 
2012-10-22 10:27:50 AM
I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.
 
2012-10-22 11:13:50 AM

Sybarite: If minorities would just settle down and let their betters choose the leaders we wouldn't need billboards, or voter roll purges, or voter I.D. laws...


Hehe. You should see some of this election cycle's FL Ballot Measures. A good chunk are about taking away voting rights in one form or fashion. Appointments to fill vacancies instead of elections, state Senate appointment of judges, appointment of representatives for unincorporated municipalities, etc. etc.

Democracy - it had a good run.
 
2012-10-22 11:44:51 AM

TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.


Clear channel's senior executive corp is EXTREMELY conservative poltically, and have the business ethics and morals one would ordinarly associate with the term "organized crime"
 
2012-10-22 11:51:28 AM
it was an honest mistake, right? or is this 'overzealous staffer' week? I can never tell.
 
2012-10-22 11:53:08 AM

Magorn: TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.

Clear channel's senior executive corp is EXTREMELY conservative poltically, and have the business ethics and morals one would ordinarly associate with the term "organized crime"


"Founded in 1972 by Lowry Mays and Red McCombs, the company was taken private by Bain Capital, LLC and Thomas H. Lee Partners in a leveraged buyout in 2008; as a result, the company now operates as a wholly owned subsidiary of CC Media Holdings, Inc.."

Clearer yet?
 
2012-10-22 12:13:16 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.


I suspect you're right.
 
2012-10-22 01:38:56 PM
Does the US have truth in advertising laws? Can someone just take out an ad that says "Voting for Obama may lead to deportation or jail"?
 
2012-10-22 01:38:57 PM
Mission Accomplished
 
2012-10-22 01:39:32 PM

Carth: Does the US have truth in advertising laws? Can someone just take out an ad that says "Voting for Obama may lead to deportation or jail"?


Yes and Yes
 
2012-10-22 01:45:02 PM

nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.


Voter fraud is showing up and voting while claiming to be someone else. It means you also have to register a fake name or use a name of someone who hasn't voted yet. It's a felony. That's part of what makes the voter fraud conspiracy so ridiculous. You would have to convince thousands of people to commit a felony and hope like crazy that if any of them get caught they're willing to take the rap for it and not out you.
 
2012-10-22 01:47:44 PM

nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.


According to an office Republican, there's hordes and hordes of illegal immigrants and other nefarious individuals who patrol around from voting station to voting station pretending to be dead people or voting before the REAL person can get there which is why we need voter ID because illegal immigrants have nothing better to do then vote illegally.

Curious if anyone living has ever shown up to vote only to be tolled they've already voted....
 
2012-10-22 01:50:43 PM
It is very hard to believe at this point that the people doing these sorts of things honestly believe they are doing the right thing, just they have a different point of view - at some point Occam's Razor has to suggest they are just evil farkers, and willing to revel in it, and use anything they can to win no matter how obviously corrupt and immoral.
 
Bf+
2012-10-22 01:57:03 PM
So the signs went up?
Then disclose the clients.
Seems pretty simple.
 
2012-10-22 02:03:49 PM
Crews on Monday will begin taking down 30 billboards in Cleveland, 30 in Columbus and 85 in Milwaukee, Jim Cullinan, vice president of corporate communications for Clear Channel Outdoor, told Reuters...

...In response to the outcry, Clear Channel Outdoor donated 10 billboards around the Cleveland area that read "Voting Is a Right. Not a Crime!"

Welp, that outta fix it.

/wipes hands on pants
 
2012-10-22 02:04:49 PM
Crews on Monday will begin taking down 30 billboards in Cleveland, 30 in Columbus and 85 in Milwaukee, Jim Cullinan, vice president of corporate communications for Clear Channel Outdoor, told Reuters. 

Will Cleat Channel give Romney his money back?
 
2012-10-22 02:05:16 PM
 
2012-10-22 02:06:51 PM
I just drove by two of those billboards, not ten minutes ago. They won't be gone for months, if not years. You can still find billboards with Billy Dee hawking Colt 45 here in Cleveland if you know where to look.
 
2012-10-22 02:08:00 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7394423/80178094#c80178094" target="_blank">TheBeastOfYuccaFlats</a>:</b> <i>Magorn: TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.

Clear channel's senior executive corp is EXTREMELY conservative poltically, and have the business ethics and morals one would ordinarly associate with the term "organized crime"

"Founded in 1972 by Lowry Mays and Red McCombs, the company was taken private by Bain Capital, LLC and Thomas H. Lee Partners in a leveraged buyout in 2008; as a result, the company now operates as a wholly owned subsidiary of CC Media Holdings, Inc.."

Clearer yet?</i>

... wow
 
2012-10-22 02:18:38 PM
I did find one in the supposed republican stronghold of Waukesha, WI only about 2 miles away as the crow flies from Kathy Nickolaus' office.

Of course its the only one I've seen in the city or the town and it is in the outskirts of our lower income hispanic population where there are many Obama signs.

Lesse if it is gone this evening when I head to the Y.
 
2012-10-22 02:21:00 PM
Aww...come on...my Fark headline was better. Dammit, gosh durn'it.
 
2012-10-22 02:26:45 PM
Voting while black/Hispanic.
 
2012-10-22 02:27:05 PM

odinsposse: nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.

Voter fraud is showing up and voting while claiming to be someone else. It means you also have to register a fake name or use a name of someone who hasn't voted yet. It's a felony. That's part of what makes the voter fraud conspiracy so ridiculous. You would have to convince thousands of people to commit a felony and hope like crazy that if any of them get caught they're willing to take the rap for it and not out you.


They are getting pretty good at it in Milwaukee.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122576113489495571.html
 
2012-10-22 02:36:12 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Magorn: TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sure it will take the exactly two weeks and a day to get around to taking them down.

Clear channel's senior executive corp is EXTREMELY conservative poltically, and have the business ethics and morals one would ordinarly associate with the term "organized crime"

"Founded in 1972 by Lowry Mays and Red McCombs, the company was taken private by Bain Capital, LLC and Thomas H. Lee Partners in a leveraged buyout in 2008; as a result, the company now operates as a wholly owned subsidiary of CC Media Holdings, Inc.."

Clearer yet?


Oh geez, I just looked up to confirm that. Man, they suck at being subtle.
 
2012-10-22 02:39:27 PM
The billboards, which show a large judge's gavel and read "Voter Fraud is a felony - up to 3 ½ years and a $10,000 fine," went up primarily in low-income minority neighborhoods in early October, just weeks before the November 6 elections, and were immediately criticized by voter rights groups as an attempt to intimidate minority voters.

This comment implies thatt minorities are stupid or guilty. Minorities do not think differently than white people. Nobody is going to be intimidated from voting if they are not doing something illegal regardless of their race.

Minorities should be offended and enraged at the people who think this about them.
 
2012-10-22 02:41:11 PM

Satanic_Hamster: nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.

According to an office Republican, there's hordes and hordes of illegal immigrants and other nefarious individuals who patrol around from voting station to voting station pretending to be dead people or voting before the REAL person can get there which is why we need voter ID because illegal immigrants have nothing better to do then vote illegally.

Curious if anyone living has ever shown up to vote only to be tolled they've already voted....


Ask not for whom the voter fraud bell tolls for, it tolls for thee.
 
2012-10-22 03:16:18 PM

Cataholic: odinsposse: nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.

Voter fraud is showing up and voting while claiming to be someone else. It means you also have to register a fake name or use a name of someone who hasn't voted yet. It's a felony. That's part of what makes the voter fraud conspiracy so ridiculous. You would have to convince thousands of people to commit a felony and hope like crazy that if any of them get caught they're willing to take the rap for it and not out you.

They are getting pretty good at it in Milwaukee.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122576113489495571.html


That's a story about a cop who is losing his job because he thinks there is voter fraud but has never convicted anyone. That...isn't great evidence. Most of the things they complained about are common pitfalls in voter fraud allegations.
 
2012-10-22 03:18:12 PM
"After discussions, the sponsor, whom Clear Channel Outdoor has called a "private family foundation" but declined to name"

Gee, I wonder who that could be.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-22 03:52:16 PM

nekom: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. At the individual level, can you even commit voter fraud? I mean attempting to show up to vote when you are not eligible isn't even a crime, is it? They just tell you no.


Yes, My teabagger friend was determined to go to my polling place and vote as me to prove a point until I

A) Told him I was going to vote this year
B) Told him I was going to report him to the feds if he did it.
 
2012-10-22 03:58:21 PM

Kevin72: Ask not for whom the voter fraud bell tolls for, it tolls for thee.


In my defense, there's something wrong with me brain meats today.
 
2012-10-22 04:00:14 PM
OK, so they're not letting out the name of the anonymous "family foundation". How about letting out the name of the employee responsible for accepting anonymous electoral ads in violation of company policy?
 
2012-10-22 04:15:23 PM

abb3w: OK, so they're not letting out the name of the anonymous "family foundation". How about letting out the name of the employee responsible for accepting anonymous electoral ads in violation of company policy?


They'll be "disciplined". In accordance with company policy, of course.
 
2012-10-22 04:39:03 PM

Hickory-smoked: What non-imaginary voter fraud may look like:


Just like the people who write in Mickey Mouse in order to get more money for registering people, that was voter registration fraud, not voter fraud.
 
2012-10-22 05:53:39 PM

timujin: Hickory-smoked: What non-imaginary voter fraud may look like:

Just like the people who write in Mickey Mouse in order to get more money for registering people, that was voter registration fraud, not voter fraud.


I stand corrected on the terminology point.

On the other hand, I disagree with your examples. The crime may be categorically the same, but one is cheating your employer and the other is a blatant attempt at voter suppression to rig an election.
 
2012-10-22 05:55:55 PM
clear channel is owned by bain. Acquired in 2008 by bain capital to monopolize control of conservative talk radio. CCC is no longer publicly traded
Clear Channel out doors is a break off. Publically traded and does the billboardes. It's recently got in some shiat over a very big dividend that they couldnt' afford (that mostly went to the preffered stock holders, at bain and the Executives)

They are part of the marketing strategy by corporate america to manipulate and buy this election.
 
2012-10-22 07:32:51 PM

Hickory-smoked: timujin: Hickory-smoked: What non-imaginary voter fraud may look like:

Just like the people who write in Mickey Mouse in order to get more money for registering people, that was voter registration fraud, not voter fraud.

I stand corrected on the terminology point.

On the other hand, I disagree with your examples. The crime may be categorically the same, but one is cheating your employer and the other is a blatant attempt at voter suppression to rig an election.


Oh, absolutely, I was only pointing out the difference between voter fraud, which is extraordinarily rare, and voter registration fraud, which is fairly common. This, however, is a particularly nasty example of registration fraud, as people who think they're registered won't find out they're not until they get to the polls.
 
2012-10-22 08:04:07 PM
For those of you just learning og the Bain - Clear Channel connection, I'd like you look up what Clear Channel did on January 20, 2009.

Clear channel has done other little batch layoffs. But this many all at once, almost like they wanted to make it stand out as a bad day. Hmm, but why that day?

/Inauguration day
//'scuse me while I adjust my tinfoil.
 
2012-10-23 03:07:58 AM
The same Clear Channel owned by Bain?
 
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