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(Washington Post)   And today's "news from a parallel universe" headline comes courtesy of the Washington Post: "Romney's focus on rules during debates reflects fondness for order and detail"   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2012-10-22 10:01:39 AM  
lolwutpear.jpg
 
2012-10-22 10:03:46 AM  
This must be the same world where Obama's a chair.
 
2012-10-22 10:05:01 AM  
he's all for it when it benefits himself.

Just like all of his policy positions. He's for and against everything and anything depending on what benefits him at the moment.
 
2012-10-22 10:07:04 AM  
Liberal mainstream media.
 
2012-10-22 10:08:53 AM  
Chris Hayes made a really important point on this issue:

I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, "Isn't it true? Isn't it true? Didn't it go down?" Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: "The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates."

Now, at a certain level, who cares, right? Who cares? Here's why I care. The theme of the last ten years of this country is the people at the top have felt the rules don't apply to them. And you send your people to sit down and negotiate a set of rules, and 20 minutes into it you throw it out the window. And everything we've seen, from the financial crisis to everything else that's happened in this country, has been about the oligarchs and the ruling class and the people at the top feeling that they are not a party to the social contract. So some stupid little contract that was negotiated by your people, you don't worry about.
 
2012-10-22 10:14:55 AM  
It's the same universe where Paul Ryan is a detailed numbers guy.
 
2012-10-22 10:17:57 AM  

Sybarite: It's the same universe where Paul Ryan is a detailed numbers guy.


Oh. He is a detailed numbers guy. He's just not a detailed ACCURATE numbers guy.
 
2012-10-22 10:18:33 AM  

Sybarite: It's the same universe where Paul Ryan is a detailed numbers guy.


Republicans won't deal with the rules of biology or economics, what makes anyone think they'd be interested in the rules of a debate.
 
2012-10-22 10:20:06 AM  
This is Mott Ramnom. MItt's bizarro twin.
 
2012-10-22 10:35:51 AM  
Also note how Romney will often answer a question in a legal context. On a number of topics he will say that something is "legal" even if the question was not asked on those terms. His taxes? Legal. Individual health care participation mandate in Mass? Legal.

It's like a meta loophole for him. He will not say that something is right or wrong, a good idea or a bad idea. He will simply say "legal" or "illegal." The law itself becomes his moral loophole.

And then there are cases like this - where he just ignores the rules and/or institutes his own. It's bad enough he does that but he's got water carriers (from AP no less) acting as his personal Gunga Din.
 
2012-10-22 10:37:54 AM  

DamnYankees: Chris Hayes made a really important point on this issue:

I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, "Isn't it true? Isn't it true? Didn't it go down?" Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: "The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates."

Now, at a certain level, who cares, right? Who cares? Here's why I care. The theme of the last ten years of this country is the people at the top have felt the rules don't apply to them. And you send your people to sit down and negotiate a set of rules, and 20 minutes into it you throw it out the window. And everything we've seen, from the financial crisis to everything else that's happened in this country, has been about the oligarchs and the ruling class and the people at the top feeling that they are not a party to the social contract. So some stupid little contract that was negotiated by your people, you don't worry about.


Worse, they think the social contract and all the laws of the land should be restructured to ensure favor them.
 
2012-10-22 10:38:51 AM  
Holy crap! I can't make it past the headline!! It's so full of shiat!!! I don't think he has any respect for rules. Rules are for minions.
 
2012-10-22 10:42:53 AM  

Diogenes: Worse, they think the social contract and all the laws of the land should be restructured to ensure favor them.


But they don't actually think that. They simply aren't remotely aware that the game is rigged in their favor. They genuinely think they are fighting for 'fairness' and 'quality of opportunity', when in reality they don't realize that they have been in a position of social advantage for so long they aren't able to see it as anything other than the default. Son of a governor who used his inheritance and family name to get himself situated in the world? Hard work and fair play. Son of a single mother who had zero connections to anything but grew up in the era of affirmative action? Totally unworthy and clearly handed what he has and didn't earn it.
 
2012-10-22 10:51:47 AM  

unlikely: lolwutpear.jpg

 
2012-10-22 11:00:54 AM  
The problem is that the rules and order he's talking about are HIS rules. The actual rules aren't important.
 
2012-10-22 11:46:55 AM  
This goes right into the same category as Lindsay Lohan's respect for a judge's order, Snooki's fondness for ladylike decorum and Lance Armstrong's commitment to riding clean.

This man's been told his farts smell like Chanel No. 5 since he was old enough to demand the butler be fired for winning at Candyland.
 
2012-10-22 11:50:57 AM  
uncle-eazy.com

/quick
//dirty
///like Lindsay above
 
2012-10-22 01:44:11 PM  

DamnYankees: I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, "Isn't it true? Isn't it true? Didn't it go down?" Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: "The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates."


The best part was that when he started demanding that Obama answer his questions, he then got snippy that Obama was speaking during his time.
 
2012-10-22 01:50:34 PM  

Uncle Eazy: [uncle-eazy.com image 426x234]

/quick
//dirty
///like Lindsay above


Creeeeeeeeeeeeeepy
 
2012-10-22 01:50:43 PM  

RminusQ: DamnYankees: I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, "Isn't it true? Isn't it true? Didn't it go down?" Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: "The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates."

The best part was that when he started demanding that Obama answer his questions, he then got snippy that Obama was speaking during his time.


And that's what all these right wing trolls in real life remember; OBMAMA broke the rules by talking over the moderator and the moderator didn't do anything to stop Obamma who broke all the rules! And the First "Lady" CLAPPED.
 
2012-10-22 01:51:31 PM  

RminusQ: DamnYankees: I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, "Isn't it true? Isn't it true? Didn't it go down?" Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: "The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates."

The best part was that when he started demanding that Obama answer his questions, he then got snippy that Obama was speaking during his time.


The rules don't apply to Mitt they only apply to the lesser folk, such as the sitting president of the US
 
2012-10-22 01:52:06 PM  
Fondness for control is more like it
 
2012-10-22 01:52:57 PM  
Without clicking the link, I'm gonna guess this was Krauthammer?
 
2012-10-22 01:53:30 PM  

Carn: Without clicking the link, I'm gonna guess this was Krauthammer?


It's an AP article. Seriously.
 
2012-10-22 01:53:41 PM  

Carn: Without clicking the link, I'm gonna guess this was Krauthammer?


I am guessing Rubin. Not gonna give either one the pleasure of clicking on their bullshiat.
 
2012-10-22 01:54:24 PM  
He's not focused on rules. He's focused on making sure he gets everything he wants and deserves. When you repeatedly interrupt the moderator insisting it is your turn to speak when it is in fact NOT your turn to speak, that is not a fondness for rules, it is a fondness for entitled douchebaggery.
 
2012-10-22 01:56:20 PM  
20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.
 
2012-10-22 01:56:42 PM  

deadcrickets: 20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.


Is that true?
 
2012-10-22 01:56:44 PM  

DamnYankees: Carn: Without clicking the link, I'm gonna guess this was Krauthammer?

It's an AP article. Seriously.


Holy shiatsnacks. The AP is running campaign articles for Romney now eh? The liberal media truly is out of control.
 
2012-10-22 01:56:51 PM  

Aarontology: he's all for it when it benefits himself.

Just like all of his policy positions. He's for and against everything and anything depending on what benefits him at the moment.


imageshack.us
 
2012-10-22 01:57:02 PM  
Romney: " I expect all those who make minimum wage, and lower, to obey me and my rules".

/Minimum wage is a 3 million dollars per year, right?
 
2012-10-22 01:57:38 PM  
You know who else had a fondness for order and detail?

img2-2.timeinc.net
 
2012-10-22 01:59:19 PM  
i49.tinypic.com

Seems apropos..
 
2012-10-22 01:59:35 PM  

coeyagi: Carn: Without clicking the link, I'm gonna guess this was Krauthammer?

I am guessing Rubin. Not gonna give either one the pleasure of clicking on their bullshiat.


We're both wrong, and it's really bad. Just pure pandering.
 
2012-10-22 02:01:11 PM  
What is this I don't even.jpg

Romnesia. Mitt Wrongnmy. Paulzheimers. Because a kick in the balls by Bush for eight years is just a passing slight annoyance.
 
2012-10-22 02:02:47 PM  

deadcrickets: 20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.


Link

I think you are off by a month. Obama took the lead in Sept. and never looked back
 
2012-10-22 02:03:16 PM  

DamnYankees: deadcrickets: 20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.

Is that true?


Yep, Nate Silver's blog discusses how monumentally wrong Gallup has been over the years.
 
2012-10-22 02:03:38 PM  

DamnYankees: deadcrickets: 20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.

Is that true?


As real as this one:


FOX News Poll: McCain Leads Obama 45% to 42%

"A substantial shift in the vote preference among independents has given John McCain a slim lead over Barack Obama after the Republican convention. Independents now break for McCain by 15 percentage points (46 percent to 31 percent) in a FOX News poll released Wednesday."
 
2012-10-22 02:03:41 PM  
www.myfacewhen.net

People in positions of privilege and power are staunch advocates of the rules that placed and keep them in positions of privilege and power.
 
2012-10-22 02:03:50 PM  
You know who else is focused on rules with an eye for order and detail?

That's right. Robots.
 
2012-10-22 02:04:19 PM  

Znuh: What is this I don't even.jpg

Romnesia. Mitt Wrongnmy. Paulzheimers. Because a kick in the balls by Bush for eight years is just a passing slight annoyance.


You forgot Myth Romney. Or Myth Wrongmy
 
2012-10-22 02:05:40 PM  

deadcrickets: DamnYankees: deadcrickets: 20 October 2008 - John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.

Is that true?

As real as this one:


FOX News Poll: McCain Leads Obama 45% to 42%

"A substantial shift in the vote preference among independents has given John McCain a slim lead over Barack Obama after the Republican convention. Independents now break for McCain by 15 percentage points (46 percent to 31 percent) in a FOX News poll released Wednesday."


That was actually true after the GOP convention. A late-Oct poll is very different.
 
2012-10-22 02:06:30 PM  
Romney cares about the rules the same way a car salesman is trying to get you the best deal.
 
2012-10-22 02:07:00 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Sybarite: It's the same universe where Paul Ryan is a detailed numbers guy.

Oh. He is a detailed numbers guy. He's just not a detailed ACCURATE numbers guy.


And he won't actually tell you the details.
 
2012-10-22 02:08:38 PM  

Taylor Mental: Aarontology: he's all for it when it benefits himself.

Just like all of his policy positions. He's for and against everything and anything depending on what benefits him at the moment.

[imageshack.us image 448x298]


I lol'ed. This may be the least annoying, and yet most appropriate, use of Ruby Rhod (or whatever his name was) in a meme ever.
 
2012-10-22 02:12:07 PM  

PanicMan: You know who else is focused on rules with an eye for order and detail?

That's right. Robots.


Gasp! Mitt Romney is actually Chet Hummin!

/I hope he has had time to develop the Zeroth Law.
 
2012-10-22 02:23:04 PM  
Rules are necessary for the little people...
 
2012-10-22 02:25:32 PM  
Black Box futures for everyone!
 
2012-10-22 02:30:52 PM  
Maybe I watched a different debate. The debate bits I caught revealed Romney to be rude, condescending, and an absolute bully. I believe his only interest in rules would be how he might break them and get away with it.
 
2012-10-22 02:37:30 PM  
"He's highly analytical, highly linear in his thinking," said Doug Gross, who chaired Romney's 2008 campaign in Iowa. "When someone steps out of line and your logic is linear, that causes dissonance in your brain."


So, how does someone who experiences dissonance in their brain any time someone steps out of line or their logic isn't linear supposed to function on an international stage? Suppose he's in a meeting with rulers of other countries and their culture doesn't follow the same logic as his? Is he going to crumble under the dissonance this creates in his brain?
 
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