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(Global Post)   Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter   (globalpost.com) divider line 29
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2012-10-22 12:13:24 PM
5 votes:
Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter

The fact Virginia is now considered a swing state is bad news for which party again? It's gone Dem only twice since 1948. The fact the GOP has to spend any notable amount of time or money there is bad news I guess....for Obama.

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2012-10-22 12:04:18 PM
3 votes:
Virginia: America's First Commonwealth.

Northern Virginia: America's 51st State.

/A man can dream
//Let's see how the rednecks do without our tax dollars
2012-10-22 11:55:09 AM
3 votes:
Charlottesville reporting in.

Grim indeed.

i45.tinypic.com
2012-10-22 12:36:42 PM
2 votes:
FTA:

"They blame Obama, big time," said Maiorana. "This state is all about getting as many resources out of the ground as possible, with no regulation. Everyone is sick, everyone's got cancer, but they just want to be left alone."

We up north value being alive and not having to live in/around super fund sites and polluting factories.

Maybe we really do need to split this country in two.
2012-10-22 12:11:54 PM
2 votes:
I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.

Quick example:

Talking about the economy, I say that before Obama took office we were losing more than 500,000 jobs a month. I said, "Obama took office on January 20th, 2009; the credit crunch and housing market problems began somewhere around 2007."

The coworker's reply: an emphatic, "No, it didn't!"

I mean, I don't even...

/that said I hope Goode and Johnson really screw things up for Romney
2012-10-22 02:20:36 PM
1 votes:

Bf+: spelletrader: they have many blue collar friends their...
Meanwhile their mousy school teacher wives...
we don't visit very often

Perhaps you should, amiright?
/Amiright?
//This thing on?


Don't you think it comes across as pretty douchey to call someone out on their grammar mistake when they already immediately noted that mistake in the very next comment?

/Amiright?
2012-10-22 01:52:12 PM
1 votes:
Things like this makes me glad I managed to get out of there (York County) right after college, right before shiat hit the fan. So many people with knee-jerk attitudes and breathtaking ignorance, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the strong military presence there. A part of me dies inside when I walk past a not-so-subtle advertisement for Regent University in Norfolk International Airport.

ultraholland: I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.

2012-10-22 01:41:20 PM
1 votes:
From Wytheville, about an hour east of Abingdon and the coal fields. I work in the coal mining industry and made a loop through eastern KY and southwest, more so than here, VA last week doing sales calls. Sad to say Obama will not carry this end of the state. Stay strong NoVA.
2012-10-22 01:36:56 PM
1 votes:
Only thing I can figure is that there are still people up there who are still pissed off about losing the Civil War.

/and now there's this darky in the White House who ain't with the kitchen staff

//study it out
2012-10-22 01:11:09 PM
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: It isn't in Missouri either.

csb

There is a democratic campaign location that I pass by daily on this back road. It has two of every democratic candidate's yard sign on it... except for only one Obama/Biden sign. Someone whose neck is likely red has thrown a dehorned dead deer onto the lawn of this place, crushing the Obama sign. It looked to be stabbed several times as well. Missouri is super classy.
/csb


Yeah - Obama doesn't have a prayer in MO, and since Romney is a lock for KS, national political ads have been scarce, to say the least.

I've seen several Obama bumper stickers, but yard signs are minimal. (And I live in one of the two areas he's a lock to snag, but the rest of this godforsaken land of suck in baseball, football and politics will go for Romney, because he's not that black guy!) I think the bulk of any campaigning here is all about McCaskill/Akin. It's nauseating how many times a day one heard Akins froggy voice spout 'legitimate rape' in damned near every ad that's out (Although McCaskill's latest with rape victims explaining why they aren't voting for him are pretty sobering.)

Missouri: The Show Me The People Here Aren't All Morons State.
2012-10-22 12:45:53 PM
1 votes:

organizmx: "They blame Obama, big time," said Maiorana. "This state is all about getting as many resources out of the ground as possible, with no regulation. Everyone is sick, everyone's got cancer, but they just want to be left alone."


That is a mobius strip of cognitive dissonance.
2012-10-22 12:38:44 PM
1 votes:
Judging by the polls in a number of swing states, the mood is grim* in more than Virginia.


/* if you are member of the Obama/Biden campaign 
//state polls are lagging indicator
///but, but Nate!
2012-10-22 12:32:14 PM
1 votes:
Signs on lawns are a weak indicator of support one way or the other. They are designed to reinforce group identity (why if everyone in my neighborhood is voting Romney, so should I), but they also risk producing a level of complacency (so many people are voting for Romney, why should I bother).

The polls show a tight race, and early voting data strongly suggests that at the very least, those who support Obama are showing the same level of enthusiasm that they did in 2008. It's just that Obama has lost 2-5% of his white vote. The polls suggest Obama will lose Virginia by about 1 or 2 points, but the strength of Obama's base plus the still unanswered question about how enthusiastic Romney's voters will be come voting time keep Virginia swinging.
2012-10-22 12:29:56 PM
1 votes:
A 2011 study found that cancer rates were almost double the national norm in Appalachia coal country.

And yet it is one of the places that supports eviromental regulation and health care reform the least. Sure, you'll have a job, but only up until you're dropped into an early grave.
2012-10-22 12:29:41 PM
1 votes:
Parents live in SW Virginia. You know what's the biggest non-economic force against coal in the Appalachians? It's not Obama, it's not federal regulations, it's not EPA or MSHA, it's not state government. It's the locals. They're the biggest anti-coal groups around.

I guarantee you every one of these "tea party" Virginians who are saying we should vote out Obama because he's trying to destroy coal will tell you tomorrow that the coal mines killed their father/uncle/cousin and are all corrupt crooks who don't care about the communities and their blasting destroyed their well and the community is going to die because coal is strangling it and etc etc.
2012-10-22 12:18:38 PM
1 votes:

DubyaHater: guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.


You know that's exactly the reaction the mailbox-stuffers were going for, right?
2012-10-22 12:17:47 PM
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: LucklessWonder: Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.

I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.

Keyboard, etc.


I'd call it a win win if the state went Red, but Cantor didn't have a job on November 7th.
2012-10-22 12:13:38 PM
1 votes:

guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.
2012-10-22 12:10:20 PM
1 votes:
My brother lives in Virgina. We were just talking last night about this sort of thing.

In the past eight years, he has attended more than 50 funerals around the country. He does not have to, these are just people he knows well enough to attend their funeral. He doesn't understand why anyone remotely close to the military would vote for someone that is promising more war.
2012-10-22 12:10:04 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: "If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.


That's a pretty disgusting sign.

I know it sounds ridiculous but...a sign calling Obama '08 voters racist is proof that they (whoever is behind the sign) are the real racists.

It's the old affirmative action argument taken to a grander scale: How come the blah guy in my college class is doing better than me? He just got in because of affirmative action is all. If everything were fair I'd be valedictorian and have all the job offers! I promise!

The problem is it's working. Since before he was even inaugurated Obama's opponents were trying to delegitimize his Presidency by claiming affirmative action. Then over the past four years they've been reinforcing that claim using unprecedentedly high standards (show of hands, who has heard of U6 unemployment before 2009?), and crowing about how he's "failed us" when he's merely been able to meet traditionally high standards. The accomplishments he's gotten through never-before-seen obstructionism suddenly don't count because somebody else did it (ending Iraq was Bush's timetable, Obamacare was Romney's idea, the Bin Ladin mission was Seal Team 6 freelancing). Now the last step is repeating that we need a "real" leader to "take our country back."

November will be the final exam to see how much Republican social conditioning works on the average American.
2012-10-22 12:02:17 PM
1 votes:

born_yesterday: The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.


Americans are idiots have short memories.
2012-10-22 12:02:09 PM
1 votes:
It isn't in Missouri either.

csb

There is a democratic campaign location that I pass by daily on this back road. It has two of every democratic candidate's yard sign on it... except for only one Obama/Biden sign. Someone whose neck is likely red has thrown a dehorned dead deer onto the lawn of this place, crushing the Obama sign. It looked to be stabbed several times as well. Missouri is super classy.
/csb
2012-10-22 12:01:32 PM
1 votes:
Keep in mind, I don't think these polls take into account the fact that Virgil Goode, of the constitution party (ultra-right wing christians, if I remember right?) is on the ballot.

If I had no morals, I would be VERY tempted to organize some mass mailings/callings on behalf of that campaign, pointing out that Romney is a former bishop in the mormon church, and that furthermore voting for him/electing him arguably causes a mormon prophecy to be 'true', thus showing believe that Mormonism is, in fact, the true religion....

But I can't bring myself to be that slimy. =/.
2012-10-22 11:57:43 AM
1 votes:
I dunno, Bob McDonnell tells me the women in Virginia love having wands forced up their cooches.
2012-10-22 11:56:16 AM
1 votes:
"If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.
2012-10-22 11:55:07 AM
1 votes:
Johnson is running as a third party candidate in VA. If he takes even 3% of the vote from Romney that may be enough to win VA for Obama.
2012-10-22 11:52:38 AM
1 votes:
And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...
2012-10-22 11:52:05 AM
1 votes:

blackminded: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.


The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.
2012-10-22 11:00:00 AM
1 votes:
It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.
 
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