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(Global Post)   Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter   (globalpost.com) divider line 98
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2012-10-22 11:00:00 AM  
It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.
 
2012-10-22 11:24:15 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.


Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/
 
2012-10-22 11:50:40 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.


I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.
 
2012-10-22 11:51:47 AM  
I'm in the south/east corner of Virginia right near the border and it's 99% Romney around here, it's horrible. I think the only area he'll take around here is Norfolk.

I was hoping that NoVa would carry us to Obama.
 
2012-10-22 11:52:05 AM  

blackminded: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.


The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.
 
2012-10-22 11:52:38 AM  
And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...
 
2012-10-22 11:55:07 AM  
Johnson is running as a third party candidate in VA. If he takes even 3% of the vote from Romney that may be enough to win VA for Obama.
 
2012-10-22 11:55:09 AM  
Charlottesville reporting in.

Grim indeed.

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-22 11:56:16 AM  
"If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.
 
2012-10-22 11:57:43 AM  
I dunno, Bob McDonnell tells me the women in Virginia love having wands forced up their cooches.
 
2012-10-22 11:57:44 AM  
Isn't Virgil Goode on the ballot in Virginia?
 
2012-10-22 11:58:55 AM  
Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.
 
2012-10-22 11:59:16 AM  
I farking hate coal companies. Way to hogtie any hope of progress by buying politicians and lobbyists to keep the horse-and-buggy of energy production going, knowing that the bottom of the hiring barrel (in red states, go fig!) will always have something to fall back on for those last 17 years of their lives after graduating or dropping out of high school. But go ahead, mouth-breather, keep us in the 18th centuy for the empty promise that you'll always have a jerb until the day you contract blacklung or, as Rand Paul ($-KY) puts it, "Accidents happen."
 
2012-10-22 11:59:20 AM  

qorkfiend: Isn't Virgil Goode on the ballot in Virginia?


Yes, and I think I'll campaign for him.

/GObama!
 
2012-10-22 12:01:32 PM  
Keep in mind, I don't think these polls take into account the fact that Virgil Goode, of the constitution party (ultra-right wing christians, if I remember right?) is on the ballot.

If I had no morals, I would be VERY tempted to organize some mass mailings/callings on behalf of that campaign, pointing out that Romney is a former bishop in the mormon church, and that furthermore voting for him/electing him arguably causes a mormon prophecy to be 'true', thus showing believe that Mormonism is, in fact, the true religion....

But I can't bring myself to be that slimy. =/.
 
2012-10-22 12:02:09 PM  
It isn't in Missouri either.

csb

There is a democratic campaign location that I pass by daily on this back road. It has two of every democratic candidate's yard sign on it... except for only one Obama/Biden sign. Someone whose neck is likely red has thrown a dehorned dead deer onto the lawn of this place, crushing the Obama sign. It looked to be stabbed several times as well. Missouri is super classy.
/csb
 
2012-10-22 12:02:17 PM  

born_yesterday: The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.


Americans are idiots have short memories.
 
2012-10-22 12:02:24 PM  
I fully anticipate my car will be keyed or something when I slap my Obama sticker on my bumper, and I live 30 minutes from D.C.

There are a lot of stupid people even in NoVA. Heck, my entire family is stupid aside from myself and my younger sister who I've managed to rescue from the clutches of myopic ignorance. I think I've successfully managed to discourage at least a few of my family members from voting at all this time around since they had originally planned to vote party line (read: republican) without actually following the election.
 
2012-10-22 12:03:25 PM  
Well you're talking about people who's idea of political discourse is emotionally screaming incoherent half thoughts that make the average fairy tale look like a scientific journal.

/In retrospect, that whole sentence just seems way too long.
 
2012-10-22 12:04:18 PM  
Virginia: America's First Commonwealth.

Northern Virginia: America's 51st State.

/A man can dream
//Let's see how the rednecks do without our tax dollars
 
2012-10-22 12:04:25 PM  
I live and work around western MA eastern NY. I can count on 1 hand the number of Romney signs I have seen, no exaggeration. It is interesting to see how different each part of the country is with their support for each candidate.
 
2012-10-22 12:07:10 PM  

Felgraf: Keep in mind, I don't think these polls take into account the fact that Virgil Goode, of the constitution party (ultra-right wing christians, if I remember right?) is on the ballot.


I hear about him (and Gary Johnson), but are they at all a presence in poll results? Granted, it's possible that some polls don't even have them as an option, but I'm skeptical that either of them will do more than a combined 1% nationally or even in VA.
 
2012-10-22 12:08:16 PM  
Angry white man yells at wind.
 
2012-10-22 12:08:37 PM  
Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.

DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

 
2012-10-22 12:10:04 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.


That's a pretty disgusting sign.

I know it sounds ridiculous but...a sign calling Obama '08 voters racist is proof that they (whoever is behind the sign) are the real racists.

It's the old affirmative action argument taken to a grander scale: How come the blah guy in my college class is doing better than me? He just got in because of affirmative action is all. If everything were fair I'd be valedictorian and have all the job offers! I promise!

The problem is it's working. Since before he was even inaugurated Obama's opponents were trying to delegitimize his Presidency by claiming affirmative action. Then over the past four years they've been reinforcing that claim using unprecedentedly high standards (show of hands, who has heard of U6 unemployment before 2009?), and crowing about how he's "failed us" when he's merely been able to meet traditionally high standards. The accomplishments he's gotten through never-before-seen obstructionism suddenly don't count because somebody else did it (ending Iraq was Bush's timetable, Obamacare was Romney's idea, the Bin Ladin mission was Seal Team 6 freelancing). Now the last step is repeating that we need a "real" leader to "take our country back."

November will be the final exam to see how much Republican social conditioning works on the average American.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:14 PM  
i97.photobucket.com


No surprise here.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:20 PM  
My brother lives in Virgina. We were just talking last night about this sort of thing.

In the past eight years, he has attended more than 50 funerals around the country. He does not have to, these are just people he knows well enough to attend their funeral. He doesn't understand why anyone remotely close to the military would vote for someone that is promising more war.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:47 PM  
Hey, there are some Obama supporters even here in Richmond, but the number of Romney/Ryan and Macaca signs are depressing. Also, whenever Eric Cantor show up in an ad, I punch my TV.
 
2012-10-22 12:11:43 PM  

Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.


I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.
 
2012-10-22 12:11:54 PM  
I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.

Quick example:

Talking about the economy, I say that before Obama took office we were losing more than 500,000 jobs a month. I said, "Obama took office on January 20th, 2009; the credit crunch and housing market problems began somewhere around 2007."

The coworker's reply: an emphatic, "No, it didn't!"

I mean, I don't even...

/that said I hope Goode and Johnson really screw things up for Romney
 
2012-10-22 12:13:11 PM  
Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?
 
2012-10-22 12:13:24 PM  
Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter

The fact Virginia is now considered a swing state is bad news for which party again? It's gone Dem only twice since 1948. The fact the GOP has to spend any notable amount of time or money there is bad news I guess....for Obama.

Link
 
2012-10-22 12:13:38 PM  

guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.
 
2012-10-22 12:14:06 PM  

LucklessWonder: Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.

I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.


Keyboard, etc.
 
2012-10-22 12:16:18 PM  

pisceandreamer: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/


Oddly same with parts of Montgomery Co. I've seen more Romney signs than Obama, even in Bethesda (!).

My guess is that the Democrats know Maryland is a lock so they aren't bothering to waste money with signs. I see a lot of bumperstickers though, which people usually buy on their own.
 
2012-10-22 12:17:11 PM  

LucklessWonder: Also, whenever Eric Cantor show up in an ad, I punch my TV.


I hear his challenger is actually within spitting distance after a recent debate, but I can't find anything to corroborate. Did I imagine this in a fever dream?

/what a douche
 
2012-10-22 12:17:44 PM  
Resident of Norfolk here, and it all depends on what neighborhoods you go to on what signs you see. I currently live in the Highland Park neighborhood closer to ODU, not the ghetto, so it is almost nothing but Obama/Biden signs. However, if you go to some other neighborhoods like Colonial Place/Riverview, I have been surprised to see how many Romney signs I have seen. Obama will definitely get Norfolk though, especially with the multicultural atmosphere it has. Particularly Ghent, or as I so affectionately call it the gayborhood =)
 
2012-10-22 12:17:46 PM  

trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?


There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...
 
2012-10-22 12:17:47 PM  

Epoch_Zero: LucklessWonder: Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.

I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.

Keyboard, etc.


I'd call it a win win if the state went Red, but Cantor didn't have a job on November 7th.
 
2012-10-22 12:18:38 PM  

DubyaHater: guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.


You know that's exactly the reaction the mailbox-stuffers were going for, right?
 
2012-10-22 12:19:55 PM  
blackminded: I hear his challenger is actually within spitting distance after a recent debate, but I can't find anything to corroborate. Did I imagine this in a fever dream?

I hope not. I watched the debate and really enjoyed his challenger; it's just too bad I can't vote in the 7th district.
 
2012-10-22 12:21:37 PM  

marius2: I'm in the south/east corner of Virginia right near the border and it's 99% Romney around here, it's horrible. I think the only area he'll take around here is Norfolk.

I was hoping that NoVa would carry us to Obama.


I was down that way yesterday. The town of Surry had lots of Obama signs, but that was the only place.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:35 PM  

AngryTeacher: He doesn't understand why anyone remotely close to the military would vote for someone that is promising more war.


Fear. It's not even a new political strategy. You vote for Ronald Reagan because otherwise the commies will get us. You vote for GWBush because otherwise the terrorists will get us. You vote for Romney because otherwise Iran will get us. Reality doesn't even matter. Peace doesn't sell.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:37 PM  
The sign battle in my NoVa neighborhood is probably 3:2 Romney. Not good considering we're the commie part.

I voted on Thursday, but I'm not optimistic about VA...come on O-Hi-A.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:43 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?

There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...


golf_clap.jpg

No really, pretty funny.
 
2012-10-22 12:23:54 PM  
Lots of Hampton Roadsians in here. Which one of you has been submitting all the Wavy News links every morning? :P

/Chesapeake myself.
//ODU student so I'm in Norfolk all the time
///Sorry if I swerve around you when I'm driving, I'm usually in a rush.
 
2012-10-22 12:25:54 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?

There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...


Yeah, but they're trying to suppress the votes coming from that cemetery. Lousy government.
 
2012-10-22 12:29:41 PM  
Parents live in SW Virginia. You know what's the biggest non-economic force against coal in the Appalachians? It's not Obama, it's not federal regulations, it's not EPA or MSHA, it's not state government. It's the locals. They're the biggest anti-coal groups around.

I guarantee you every one of these "tea party" Virginians who are saying we should vote out Obama because he's trying to destroy coal will tell you tomorrow that the coal mines killed their father/uncle/cousin and are all corrupt crooks who don't care about the communities and their blasting destroyed their well and the community is going to die because coal is strangling it and etc etc.
 
2012-10-22 12:29:56 PM  
A 2011 study found that cancer rates were almost double the national norm in Appalachia coal country.

And yet it is one of the places that supports eviromental regulation and health care reform the least. Sure, you'll have a job, but only up until you're dropped into an early grave.
 
2012-10-22 12:30:04 PM  
Charlottesville resident here. Amid all the ivory tower denizens and treehuggers, I get kind of startled every time I see a Romney/Ryan sticker or sign. They are well outside their native range here.
 
2012-10-22 12:30:34 PM  

coeyagi: golf_clap.jpg


Thank you, I try.

I had donned the welder's helmet just in case; half expecting a spittled filled riposte of rage.
 
2012-10-22 12:31:05 PM  
Newport News checking in... driving down Huntington Ave towards the shipyard, there are 18 homes with yard signs between 72nd and 53rd, 9 for each candidate. Considering how generally conservative this area is, that alone is an encouraging trend.

/proudly sporting Obama, Kaine, and Scott signs in my own yard
 
2012-10-22 12:31:55 PM  
What a lot of people are forgetting about Virginia, specifically NOVA, is the number of military contractors in the area. shiat, every George Allen ad complains about Tim Kaine cutting military spending as if it is a bad thing!! I think this is a big reason why many are going for Romney.
 
2012-10-22 12:32:14 PM  
Signs on lawns are a weak indicator of support one way or the other. They are designed to reinforce group identity (why if everyone in my neighborhood is voting Romney, so should I), but they also risk producing a level of complacency (so many people are voting for Romney, why should I bother).

The polls show a tight race, and early voting data strongly suggests that at the very least, those who support Obama are showing the same level of enthusiasm that they did in 2008. It's just that Obama has lost 2-5% of his white vote. The polls suggest Obama will lose Virginia by about 1 or 2 points, but the strength of Obama's base plus the still unanswered question about how enthusiastic Romney's voters will be come voting time keep Virginia swinging.
 
2012-10-22 12:32:32 PM  

The Great EZE: The problem is it's working. Since before he was even inaugurated Obama's opponents were trying to delegitimize his Presidency by claiming affirmative action. Then over the past four years they've been reinforcing that claim using unprecedentedly high standards (show of hands, who has heard of U6 unemployment before 2009?), and crowing about how he's "failed us" when he's merely been able to meet traditionally high standards. The accomplishments he's gotten through never-before-seen obstructionism suddenly don't count because somebody else did it (ending Iraq was Bush's timetable, Obamacare was Romney's idea, the Bin Ladin mission was Seal Team 6 freelancing). Now the last step is repeating that we need a "real" leader to "take our country back."


What? I never heard "affirmative action" stuff about Obama being elected.

The rest is due to racism and/or Republican derp.

But some people did just vote for him because he is black, which is racist. Same as the fact some people did NOT vote for him, just because he is black (which is also racist).
 
2012-10-22 12:35:43 PM  
Richmond here. It is a tossup on the amount of Obama /Rmoney.

Funny thing is I see giant signs for Macaca and Cantor, and little teeny signs for Rmoney.

Bothers me that there is so much money being dropped into this state and Ohio to convince people to vote differently.
 
2012-10-22 12:36:42 PM  
FTA:

"They blame Obama, big time," said Maiorana. "This state is all about getting as many resources out of the ground as possible, with no regulation. Everyone is sick, everyone's got cancer, but they just want to be left alone."

We up north value being alive and not having to live in/around super fund sites and polluting factories.

Maybe we really do need to split this country in two.
 
2012-10-22 12:38:44 PM  
Judging by the polls in a number of swing states, the mood is grim* in more than Virginia.


/* if you are member of the Obama/Biden campaign 
//state polls are lagging indicator
///but, but Nate!
 
2012-10-22 12:44:19 PM  
I don't think yard signs are much of an indicator of who will win. I see far more Romney signs here in the Boston area than I do obama. Romney will not win this state.
 
2012-10-22 12:44:31 PM  

ultraholland: I said, "Obama took office on January 20th, 2009; the credit crunch and housing market problems began somewhere around 2007."

The coworker's reply: an emphatic, "No, it didn't!"


So when McCain suspended his campaign in Sep of 2008 to confront the "historic crisis in our financial system," he was just grandstanding?
 
2012-10-22 12:44:59 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.



go up into those w virginia mountains where the pig porkers are for Rmoney supporters.
 
2012-10-22 12:45:28 PM  

silo123j: Bothers me that there is so much money being dropped into this state and Ohio to convince people to vote differently.


Welcome to Swing State Status. Enjoy your stay!
 
2012-10-22 12:45:53 PM  

organizmx: "They blame Obama, big time," said Maiorana. "This state is all about getting as many resources out of the ground as possible, with no regulation. Everyone is sick, everyone's got cancer, but they just want to be left alone."


That is a mobius strip of cognitive dissonance.
 
2012-10-22 12:46:45 PM  

blackminded: And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...



the Big Ass Mistake was allowing those blue blood fascist corporate pigs to take over our Govermment in general and our CONgress in particular.
 
2012-10-22 12:49:01 PM  

pisceandreamer: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/


My neighborhood in MD has a bunch of Romney signs. Had a bunch of McCain/Palin signs too, a few years ago, and see how that went...
 
2012-10-22 12:49:05 PM  

blackminded: And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...



and as long as missy the republican continues sucking the right cock at the right time, she can continue to drive the porsche.
 
2012-10-22 12:50:40 PM  

Linux_Yes: blackminded: And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...


and as long as missy the republican continues sucking the right cock at the right time, she can continue to drive the porsche.


Your just jealous that she is being boostrappy

/I keed
//I hate those bumper stickers as well.
 
2012-10-22 12:51:20 PM  

blackminded: born_yesterday: The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.

Americans are idiots have short memories.



that's ok. if Mittens Rmoney gets in, he'll bring those clowns a flashback that'll scare them out of their delusions.
 
2012-10-22 12:51:58 PM  
Living in Virginia, I have to say that it is classic rural versus urban here. Richmond, Charlottesville, Norfolk, most of Northern Virginia, and even Roanoke will probably tilt pretty far toward Obama. It just depends on the white rural voters, who, after a long day of working (or more likely, not), wondering if voting based on "not that guy" is worth the trip to the polls.
 
2012-10-22 12:54:02 PM  
Woodbridge here. Mostly Romney and Allen signs at roadsides. I usually only see Romney bumper stickers on pickups or minivans, however. Although a couple weeks ago, I saw a Romney sticker on a Prius at the drug store. I'd put up a lawn sign of my own, but HOA.

My brother is "represented" by Eric Cantor, who is usually simply referred to as "The Weasel" in my family. At least I have Gerry Connelly, who's a cool dude and who has stood up against Darrell Issa's clown-show investigations in the House.
 
2012-10-22 12:54:31 PM  

machoprogrammer: The Great EZE: The problem is it's working. Since before he was even inaugurated Obama's opponents were trying to delegitimize his Presidency by claiming affirmative action. Then over the past four years they've been reinforcing that claim using unprecedentedly high standards (show of hands, who has heard of U6 unemployment before 2009?), and crowing about how he's "failed us" when he's merely been able to meet traditionally high standards. The accomplishments he's gotten through never-before-seen obstructionism suddenly don't count because somebody else did it (ending Iraq was Bush's timetable, Obamacare was Romney's idea, the Bin Ladin mission was Seal Team 6 freelancing). Now the last step is repeating that we need a "real" leader to "take our country back."

What? I never heard "affirmative action" stuff about Obama being elected.

The rest is due to racism and/or Republican derp.

But some people did just vote for him because he is black, which is racist. Same as the fact some people did NOT vote for him, just because he is black (which is also racist).


The "affirmative action" arguments are there. They're derpy as hell but they exist and they're believed by millions of real voters. The whining about college transcripts is merely an attempt for people to prove that he a beneficiary of affirmative action. The premise of the sign--that we (not some people, but America) voted for Obama just because he's black--is an accusation of affirmative action.

They're not going to explicitly say so because that's stupid. But four years of tiny cracks at his accomplishments with dog-whistle rhetoric can get to voters.
 
2012-10-22 12:57:46 PM  
We have some friends that moved to rural PA, they have many blue collar friends their. The husbands are all against the blah guy and will parrot yell radio bullshiat on any political subject. Meanwhile their mousy school teacher wives stand behind them helplessly rolling their eyes and looking embarrassed.

/we don't visit very often
 
2012-10-22 12:58:22 PM  

spelletrader: We have some friends that moved to rural PA, they have many blue collar friends their there. The husbands are all against the blah guy and will parrot yell radio bullshiat on any political subject. Meanwhile their mousy school teacher wives stand behind them helplessly rolling their eyes and looking embarrassed.

/we don't visit very often


FTFM
 
2012-10-22 01:11:09 PM  

Epoch_Zero: It isn't in Missouri either.

csb

There is a democratic campaign location that I pass by daily on this back road. It has two of every democratic candidate's yard sign on it... except for only one Obama/Biden sign. Someone whose neck is likely red has thrown a dehorned dead deer onto the lawn of this place, crushing the Obama sign. It looked to be stabbed several times as well. Missouri is super classy.
/csb


Yeah - Obama doesn't have a prayer in MO, and since Romney is a lock for KS, national political ads have been scarce, to say the least.

I've seen several Obama bumper stickers, but yard signs are minimal. (And I live in one of the two areas he's a lock to snag, but the rest of this godforsaken land of suck in baseball, football and politics will go for Romney, because he's not that black guy!) I think the bulk of any campaigning here is all about McCaskill/Akin. It's nauseating how many times a day one heard Akins froggy voice spout 'legitimate rape' in damned near every ad that's out (Although McCaskill's latest with rape victims explaining why they aren't voting for him are pretty sobering.)

Missouri: The Show Me The People Here Aren't All Morons State.
 
2012-10-22 01:15:19 PM  

blackminded: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.


I grew up in Great Falls; I know what you mean. The nice part is that not a lot of those inexplicably moronic people actually end up voting.

/went to Langley High School
//my geography/history teacher was Christine Delay
 
2012-10-22 01:19:56 PM  

machoprogrammer: What? I never heard "affirmative action" stuff about Obama being elected.


There was a lot of "affirmative action" crap coming from the right about Obama when he was election. The line of "logic" went: He only got to the Presidency because of it. He only got into college because of it, he didn't fail out because of it, all his "jobs" and elections are because of it, etc etc.
 
2012-10-22 01:31:23 PM  

pisceandreamer: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/


Mason District near the government center?

Just a guess. There are neighborhoods that are extremely conservative and we generally skipped canvassing even in 2008.
 
2012-10-22 01:36:56 PM  
Only thing I can figure is that there are still people up there who are still pissed off about losing the Civil War.

/and now there's this darky in the White House who ain't with the kitchen staff

//study it out
 
2012-10-22 01:38:15 PM  
I was down in coal country over the weekend. Giant billboards everywhere saying "Yes Coal, No Bama".
 
2012-10-22 01:41:20 PM  
From Wytheville, about an hour east of Abingdon and the coal fields. I work in the coal mining industry and made a loop through eastern KY and southwest, more so than here, VA last week doing sales calls. Sad to say Obama will not carry this end of the state. Stay strong NoVA.
 
2012-10-22 01:52:12 PM  
Things like this makes me glad I managed to get out of there (York County) right after college, right before shiat hit the fan. So many people with knee-jerk attitudes and breathtaking ignorance, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the strong military presence there. A part of me dies inside when I walk past a not-so-subtle advertisement for Regent University in Norfolk International Airport.

ultraholland: I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.

 
2012-10-22 02:01:11 PM  

guilt by association: Things like this makes me glad I managed to get out of there (York County) right after college, right before shiat hit the fan. So many people with knee-jerk attitudes and breathtaking ignorance, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the strong military presence there. A part of me dies inside when I walk past a not-so-subtle advertisement for Regent University in Norfolk International Airport.

ultraholland: I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.


I absolutely hate seeing that damned sign for Regent in ORF. But things have changed drastically in the almost 8 years I have lived in Virginia now. I love this place, and I am going to be missing this place when I PCS to Korea come April. But as in the words of MacArthur, I shall return!
 
Bf+
2012-10-22 02:02:40 PM  

spelletrader: they have many blue collar friends their...
Meanwhile their mousy school teacher wives...
we don't visit very often


Perhaps you should, amiright?
/Amiright?
//This thing on?
 
2012-10-22 02:20:36 PM  

Bf+: spelletrader: they have many blue collar friends their...
Meanwhile their mousy school teacher wives...
we don't visit very often

Perhaps you should, amiright?
/Amiright?
//This thing on?


Don't you think it comes across as pretty douchey to call someone out on their grammar mistake when they already immediately noted that mistake in the very next comment?

/Amiright?
 
2012-10-22 02:31:11 PM  

born_yesterday: Virginia: America's First Commonwealth.

Northern Virginia: America's 51st State.

/A man can dream
//Let's see how the rednecks do without our tax dollars


I'd vote for that. I'd vote for that in a heart beat.
 
2012-10-22 02:41:09 PM  
There is a giant billboard on route 22 in PA just outside of Indiana (the city) that states "taxpayers voting for Obama is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders"

Farking Pennsyltucky.
 
2012-10-22 02:43:46 PM  

born_yesterday: Northern Virginia: America's 51st State.


If West Virginia can do it, why can't North Virginia?
 
2012-10-22 02:46:35 PM  

SkepticalBeliever: What a lot of people are forgetting about Virginia, specifically NOVA, is the number of military contractors in the area. shiat, every George Allen ad complains about Tim Kaine cutting military spending as if it is a bad thing!! I think this is a big reason why many are going for Romney.


Or NOT going for Romney. I work for a small contractor, who works for the Navy. Under Bush, money was funneled into the Lockheed Martins and General Dynamics with absolutely no oversight. The folks at the bottom of the food chain barely got scraps.

Under Obama we've landed 3 contracts with the prospect of more. How does the old saying go: "We've run out of money. We'll have to think now."

/The DDX was a colossal waste of money
//The F-22 is a colossal waste of money
///There F-23 is such a clusterfark that the Navy is more or less betting on the F-18
 
2012-10-22 02:47:57 PM  

Wobble: From Wytheville, about an hour east of Abingdon and the coal fields. I work in the coal mining industry and made a loop through eastern KY and southwest, more so than here, VA last week doing sales calls. Sad to say Obama will not carry this end of the state. Stay strong NoVA.


Well, we do outnumber the rest of the state by a wide margin.
 
2012-10-22 02:49:41 PM  
Typo'd myself. Meant the F-35, not the F-23
 
2012-10-22 03:18:41 PM  
So if I live in Virginia I have to pretend to be a racist or a Teabagger to fit in?

Awesome.
 
2012-10-22 04:01:06 PM  

qorkfiend: Isn't Virgil Goode on the ballot in Virginia?


Yes.

FeedTheCollapse: I hear about him (and Gary Johnson), but are they at all a presence in poll results? Granted, it's possible that some polls don't even have them as an option, but I'm skeptical that either of them will do more than a combined 1% nationally or even in VA.


Pre-convention early polls (circa June) were indicating he could get as much as 9% of the Virginia vote; more recent polls are much closer to 1-2%. 

As of October 7, PPP indicated that Libertarian party's Johnson, Constitution party's Goode, and the Green party's Stein drop Obama by 2% but Romney by 3%. Based on the lean from the earlier polling indicating Good pulling his support 8:1 from the GOP, and Stein polling negligibly, Johnson appears to be neutral impact in Virginia. However, Goode may gather more votes than the final victory margin, and mostly from people who otherwise would have voted GOP.
 
2012-10-22 04:13:55 PM  

whidbey: So if I live in Virginia I have to pretend to be a racist or a Teabagger to fit in?

Awesome.


Only in the rural parts. NoVa and Lynchburg are as similar as Chicago and Oklahoma.
 
2012-10-22 04:29:01 PM  
I don't understand why VA residents here think NOVA is such a great place. Richmond is a much nicer and more interesting place to live. To each his/her own I suppose.
 
2012-10-22 06:05:43 PM  

marius2: I'm in the south/east corner of Virginia right near the border and it's 99% Romney around here, it's horrible. I think the only area he'll take around here is Norfolk.

I was hoping that NoVa would carry us to Obama.


Virginia Beach here right on the Chesapeake border. Its always been super conservative in this area so I know my town wont be blue. Was shocked to see the one artsy fartsy place in my area, The Ghent section of Norfolk, with alot of Romney signs. Im not betting that the state will turn blue like in 2004 unless norva gets it going.
Neighbor just put up a 8 foot Romney sign if you live near Greenbriar you wont miss it..ugh!
 
2012-10-22 07:50:56 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle:
Neighbor just put up a 8 foot Romney sign if you live near Greenbriar you wont miss it..ugh!


As if there were not enough huge Romney signs in Greenbrier? Ugh indeed. I've always found the signs to be rather ridiculous. I would never put one up, even for Obama. I think it's silly and excuse the term but: "white trash". There's a sense of entitlement that people actually give a fark who you're voting for.

empchang: I don't understand why VA residents here think NOVA is such a great place. Richmond is a much nicer and more interesting place to live. To each his/her own I suppose.


NOVA tends to have a lot of liberal folk who seem to enjoy life, simple events with good friends and good times. Richmond is just people literally driving on sidewalks to cut you off on the street. That's my experience of both of those places so I like NOVA better. I'd live there if I could afford it/go to a school there.

whidbey: So if I live in Virginia I have to pretend to be a racist or a Teabagger to fit in?

Awesome.

Southern and western VA for sure. My area has a lot of navy presence so it's a bit different, but not by much. I'm still very hesitant to speak out my mind in areas that I'm afraid of losing associates as I know that most people are on the "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SOCIALIST" side of things around here.
 
2012-10-22 11:22:54 PM  

empchang: I don't understand why VA residents here think NOVA is such a great place. Richmond is a much nicer and more interesting place to live. To each his/her own I suppose.

NOVA tends to have a lot of liberal folk who seem to enjoy life, simple events with good friends and good times. Richmond is just people literally driving on sidewalks to cut you off on the street. That's my experience of both of those places so I like NOVA better. I'd live there if I could afford it/go to a school there.


Not that it matters at this point, but NOVA is a suburban shiathole. There are lots of issues with Richmond, but lack of liberals and enjoying life are not part of it. Methinks you've visited the wrong neighborhoods.
 
2012-10-23 06:20:41 PM  

empchang: I don't understand why VA residents here think NOVA is such a great place. Richmond is a much nicer and more interesting place to live. To each his/her own I suppose.


We're not limited to the Paper Moon.
 
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