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(Global Post)   Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter   (globalpost.com) divider line 98
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2012-10-22 11:00:00 AM  
It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.
 
2012-10-22 11:24:15 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.


Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/
 
2012-10-22 11:50:40 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.


I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.
 
2012-10-22 11:51:47 AM  
I'm in the south/east corner of Virginia right near the border and it's 99% Romney around here, it's horrible. I think the only area he'll take around here is Norfolk.

I was hoping that NoVa would carry us to Obama.
 
2012-10-22 11:52:05 AM  

blackminded: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

I live in Loudoun County. So, yes. Georgetown Pike and Harry Byrd are all Romney/Ryan (and Allen) signs, all day.


The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.
 
2012-10-22 11:52:38 AM  
And if I get cut off in traffic by one more country club wife in a Porsche Cayenne with a "One Big Ass Mistake America" bumper sticker...
 
2012-10-22 11:55:07 AM  
Johnson is running as a third party candidate in VA. If he takes even 3% of the vote from Romney that may be enough to win VA for Obama.
 
2012-10-22 11:55:09 AM  
Charlottesville reporting in.

Grim indeed.

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-22 11:56:16 AM  
"If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.
 
2012-10-22 11:57:43 AM  
I dunno, Bob McDonnell tells me the women in Virginia love having wands forced up their cooches.
 
2012-10-22 11:57:44 AM  
Isn't Virgil Goode on the ballot in Virginia?
 
2012-10-22 11:58:55 AM  
Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.
 
2012-10-22 11:59:16 AM  
I farking hate coal companies. Way to hogtie any hope of progress by buying politicians and lobbyists to keep the horse-and-buggy of energy production going, knowing that the bottom of the hiring barrel (in red states, go fig!) will always have something to fall back on for those last 17 years of their lives after graduating or dropping out of high school. But go ahead, mouth-breather, keep us in the 18th centuy for the empty promise that you'll always have a jerb until the day you contract blacklung or, as Rand Paul ($-KY) puts it, "Accidents happen."
 
2012-10-22 11:59:20 AM  

qorkfiend: Isn't Virgil Goode on the ballot in Virginia?


Yes, and I think I'll campaign for him.

/GObama!
 
2012-10-22 12:01:32 PM  
Keep in mind, I don't think these polls take into account the fact that Virgil Goode, of the constitution party (ultra-right wing christians, if I remember right?) is on the ballot.

If I had no morals, I would be VERY tempted to organize some mass mailings/callings on behalf of that campaign, pointing out that Romney is a former bishop in the mormon church, and that furthermore voting for him/electing him arguably causes a mormon prophecy to be 'true', thus showing believe that Mormonism is, in fact, the true religion....

But I can't bring myself to be that slimy. =/.
 
2012-10-22 12:02:09 PM  
It isn't in Missouri either.

csb

There is a democratic campaign location that I pass by daily on this back road. It has two of every democratic candidate's yard sign on it... except for only one Obama/Biden sign. Someone whose neck is likely red has thrown a dehorned dead deer onto the lawn of this place, crushing the Obama sign. It looked to be stabbed several times as well. Missouri is super classy.
/csb
 
2012-10-22 12:02:17 PM  

born_yesterday: The fact that a turd of a man George Allen can get back into politics is very disappointing.


Americans are idiots have short memories.
 
2012-10-22 12:02:24 PM  
I fully anticipate my car will be keyed or something when I slap my Obama sticker on my bumper, and I live 30 minutes from D.C.

There are a lot of stupid people even in NoVA. Heck, my entire family is stupid aside from myself and my younger sister who I've managed to rescue from the clutches of myopic ignorance. I think I've successfully managed to discourage at least a few of my family members from voting at all this time around since they had originally planned to vote party line (read: republican) without actually following the election.
 
2012-10-22 12:03:25 PM  
Well you're talking about people who's idea of political discourse is emotionally screaming incoherent half thoughts that make the average fairy tale look like a scientific journal.

/In retrospect, that whole sentence just seems way too long.
 
2012-10-22 12:04:18 PM  
Virginia: America's First Commonwealth.

Northern Virginia: America's 51st State.

/A man can dream
//Let's see how the rednecks do without our tax dollars
 
2012-10-22 12:04:25 PM  
I live and work around western MA eastern NY. I can count on 1 hand the number of Romney signs I have seen, no exaggeration. It is interesting to see how different each part of the country is with their support for each candidate.
 
2012-10-22 12:07:10 PM  

Felgraf: Keep in mind, I don't think these polls take into account the fact that Virgil Goode, of the constitution party (ultra-right wing christians, if I remember right?) is on the ballot.


I hear about him (and Gary Johnson), but are they at all a presence in poll results? Granted, it's possible that some polls don't even have them as an option, but I'm skeptical that either of them will do more than a combined 1% nationally or even in VA.
 
2012-10-22 12:08:16 PM  
Angry white man yells at wind.
 
2012-10-22 12:08:37 PM  
Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.

DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

 
2012-10-22 12:10:04 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "If you voted the last election to prove you weren't racist, vote this election to prove you're not an idiot,

Obama only won because people wanted to prove through their secret vote that they aren't racist so now that that's out of their system this should be a cakewalk for Romney. Sounds legit.


That's a pretty disgusting sign.

I know it sounds ridiculous but...a sign calling Obama '08 voters racist is proof that they (whoever is behind the sign) are the real racists.

It's the old affirmative action argument taken to a grander scale: How come the blah guy in my college class is doing better than me? He just got in because of affirmative action is all. If everything were fair I'd be valedictorian and have all the job offers! I promise!

The problem is it's working. Since before he was even inaugurated Obama's opponents were trying to delegitimize his Presidency by claiming affirmative action. Then over the past four years they've been reinforcing that claim using unprecedentedly high standards (show of hands, who has heard of U6 unemployment before 2009?), and crowing about how he's "failed us" when he's merely been able to meet traditionally high standards. The accomplishments he's gotten through never-before-seen obstructionism suddenly don't count because somebody else did it (ending Iraq was Bush's timetable, Obamacare was Romney's idea, the Bin Ladin mission was Seal Team 6 freelancing). Now the last step is repeating that we need a "real" leader to "take our country back."

November will be the final exam to see how much Republican social conditioning works on the average American.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:14 PM  
i97.photobucket.com


No surprise here.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:20 PM  
My brother lives in Virgina. We were just talking last night about this sort of thing.

In the past eight years, he has attended more than 50 funerals around the country. He does not have to, these are just people he knows well enough to attend their funeral. He doesn't understand why anyone remotely close to the military would vote for someone that is promising more war.
 
2012-10-22 12:10:47 PM  
Hey, there are some Obama supporters even here in Richmond, but the number of Romney/Ryan and Macaca signs are depressing. Also, whenever Eric Cantor show up in an ad, I punch my TV.
 
2012-10-22 12:11:43 PM  

Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.


I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.
 
2012-10-22 12:11:54 PM  
I live and work in Hampton Roads and let me tell you, motherfarkers are racist as shiat down there; that coupled with AM talk radio pounding nonsense into their heads makes it very difficult to to have a meaningful, constructive dialogue about the issues. I've actually taken to not engaging in politics because I know where they stand and they know where I stand; it becomes a losing battle, especially when they substitute their farked up Obama-Bad reality.

Quick example:

Talking about the economy, I say that before Obama took office we were losing more than 500,000 jobs a month. I said, "Obama took office on January 20th, 2009; the credit crunch and housing market problems began somewhere around 2007."

The coworker's reply: an emphatic, "No, it didn't!"

I mean, I don't even...

/that said I hope Goode and Johnson really screw things up for Romney
 
2012-10-22 12:13:11 PM  
Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?
 
2012-10-22 12:13:24 PM  
Virginia, Not For Lovers. The mood in this swing state is pretty grim in the run-up to the election, and it is not a great place to be an Obama supporter

The fact Virginia is now considered a swing state is bad news for which party again? It's gone Dem only twice since 1948. The fact the GOP has to spend any notable amount of time or money there is bad news I guess....for Obama.

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2012-10-22 12:13:38 PM  

guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.
 
2012-10-22 12:14:06 PM  

LucklessWonder: Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.

I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.


Keyboard, etc.
 
2012-10-22 12:16:18 PM  

pisceandreamer: Pocket Ninja: It is if you live in the parts of Virginia where the population, money, and power is concentrated.

Not my part of NoVa - my neighborhood is filled with Romney signs. :/


Oddly same with parts of Montgomery Co. I've seen more Romney signs than Obama, even in Bethesda (!).

My guess is that the Democrats know Maryland is a lock so they aren't bothering to waste money with signs. I see a lot of bumperstickers though, which people usually buy on their own.
 
2012-10-22 12:17:11 PM  

LucklessWonder: Also, whenever Eric Cantor show up in an ad, I punch my TV.


I hear his challenger is actually within spitting distance after a recent debate, but I can't find anything to corroborate. Did I imagine this in a fever dream?

/what a douche
 
2012-10-22 12:17:44 PM  
Resident of Norfolk here, and it all depends on what neighborhoods you go to on what signs you see. I currently live in the Highland Park neighborhood closer to ODU, not the ghetto, so it is almost nothing but Obama/Biden signs. However, if you go to some other neighborhoods like Colonial Place/Riverview, I have been surprised to see how many Romney signs I have seen. Obama will definitely get Norfolk though, especially with the multicultural atmosphere it has. Particularly Ghent, or as I so affectionately call it the gayborhood =)
 
2012-10-22 12:17:46 PM  

trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?


There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...
 
2012-10-22 12:17:47 PM  

Epoch_Zero: LucklessWonder: Devo: [i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


No surprise here.

I just punched more laptop screen. It's a reflex.

Keyboard, etc.


I'd call it a win win if the state went Red, but Cantor didn't have a job on November 7th.
 
2012-10-22 12:18:38 PM  

DubyaHater: guilt by association:
DubyaHater: Come on down to SW Virginia. In my neighborhood of Salem, VA, I am the only Obama supporter in a sea of Romney/Ryan signs. The larger city of Roanoke isn't much better. The "Sportsmen for Romney/Ryan" signs are sprouting like weeds. I doubt Obama will be carrying Virginia this time around.
/Obama should just spend all his time in Ohio and Colorado.

Quite sad really, but hardly surprising. I made a trip to Salem/Roanoke back in September 2008 and remember seeing lots of Obama signs.


Times have changed. I put a Obama/Biden in my window and within a week, I had garbage from Chik-fil-A and multiple mailers from Karl Rove's SuperPAC shoved in my mailbox. I took the sign down, because I don't need that kind of attention.


You know that's exactly the reaction the mailbox-stuffers were going for, right?
 
2012-10-22 12:19:55 PM  
blackminded: I hear his challenger is actually within spitting distance after a recent debate, but I can't find anything to corroborate. Did I imagine this in a fever dream?

I hope not. I watched the debate and really enjoyed his challenger; it's just too bad I can't vote in the 7th district.
 
2012-10-22 12:21:37 PM  

marius2: I'm in the south/east corner of Virginia right near the border and it's 99% Romney around here, it's horrible. I think the only area he'll take around here is Norfolk.

I was hoping that NoVa would carry us to Obama.


I was down that way yesterday. The town of Surry had lots of Obama signs, but that was the only place.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:35 PM  

AngryTeacher: He doesn't understand why anyone remotely close to the military would vote for someone that is promising more war.


Fear. It's not even a new political strategy. You vote for Ronald Reagan because otherwise the commies will get us. You vote for GWBush because otherwise the terrorists will get us. You vote for Romney because otherwise Iran will get us. Reality doesn't even matter. Peace doesn't sell.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:37 PM  
The sign battle in my NoVa neighborhood is probably 3:2 Romney. Not good considering we're the commie part.

I voted on Thursday, but I'm not optimistic about VA...come on O-Hi-A.
 
2012-10-22 12:22:43 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?

There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...


golf_clap.jpg

No really, pretty funny.
 
2012-10-22 12:23:54 PM  
Lots of Hampton Roadsians in here. Which one of you has been submitting all the Wavy News links every morning? :P

/Chesapeake myself.
//ODU student so I'm in Norfolk all the time
///Sorry if I swerve around you when I'm driving, I'm usually in a rush.
 
2012-10-22 12:25:54 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: trickymoo: Arlington.

Democrat since... geez... the 80's I think?

There's a big cemetery in Arlington, isn't there? Just sayin...


Yeah, but they're trying to suppress the votes coming from that cemetery. Lousy government.
 
2012-10-22 12:29:41 PM  
Parents live in SW Virginia. You know what's the biggest non-economic force against coal in the Appalachians? It's not Obama, it's not federal regulations, it's not EPA or MSHA, it's not state government. It's the locals. They're the biggest anti-coal groups around.

I guarantee you every one of these "tea party" Virginians who are saying we should vote out Obama because he's trying to destroy coal will tell you tomorrow that the coal mines killed their father/uncle/cousin and are all corrupt crooks who don't care about the communities and their blasting destroyed their well and the community is going to die because coal is strangling it and etc etc.
 
2012-10-22 12:29:56 PM  
A 2011 study found that cancer rates were almost double the national norm in Appalachia coal country.

And yet it is one of the places that supports eviromental regulation and health care reform the least. Sure, you'll have a job, but only up until you're dropped into an early grave.
 
2012-10-22 12:30:04 PM  
Charlottesville resident here. Amid all the ivory tower denizens and treehuggers, I get kind of startled every time I see a Romney/Ryan sticker or sign. They are well outside their native range here.
 
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