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(Charleston Post and Courier)   Local fire department saves record number of lives without using any tongue   (postandcourier.com) divider line 5
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2012-10-22 03:10:33 PM  
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cyberspacedout: Neato: EMT training isn't mandatory for every fire fighter? Firetrucks respond to medical emergencies specifically because they are trained to do so and they often can arrive faster than an ambulance.

They've got training, but this department probably wants someone with certification who'd have more extensive training. My guess is they're also planning ahead for emergencies where they'd have to put out a fire as well as have someone acting as a paramedic.


It all depends on the department, medical director, municipality and contract if a paid department. Its not that fire apparatus arrives "faster" than an ambulance, its the fact that (1) there are more "fire trucks" than ambulances and (2) they dont transport. (3) There are usually more medical than fire calls. For example. Call #1 for Chest Pain / Difficulty Breathing. A BLS Engine Company and ALS Ambulance arrive at the same time. The ambulance crew transports pt to Hospital which may be for arguements sake, 20 minutes away (no lights/siren per protocol). Once there, ambulance crew has to wait for an open bed, transfer care, write a report and get the truck ready for the next call (yes, I know the PCR could be done in route). Lets say thats 30 minutes (on a good day). You are looking at on out of service time of approx 1:10. The Engiine Company, meanwhile, has put themselves back in service after the ambulance crew leaves the scene and is ready for the next call. In the meantime medical Call #2 goes out while the 1st Ambulance crew is making that 20 minute trip to the ED. Well you have to get another ambulance from somewhere. It may be on the other side of town or coming from another department. Thats why having fire companies or the PD in busy systems trained as First Resonders may make sense, so that they can start care while the bus is making its way back from the 1st call.
2012-10-22 03:02:06 PM  
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emt92339: A man had gone into a full arrest while riding on a CARTA bus. Nurses, who were aboard the bus, started CPR before firefighters got there. Fleming, who is trained as an emergency medical technician, his crew and EMS paramedics were able to save the man's life

Sorry boys, you dont get a "save" for that one, the nurses do. They started CPR before you guys got there

//the more you know


www.redcrosslv.org

Resuscitation is a team effort, dude. It encompasses everyone from the bystander who does CPR, to the cardiologist which stents the blood vessel in the heart.

Credit should go to everyone.
2012-10-22 02:50:20 PM  
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A man had gone into a full arrest while riding on a CARTA bus. Nurses, who were aboard the bus, started CPR before firefighters got there. Fleming, who is trained as an emergency medical technician, his crew and EMS paramedics were able to save the man's life

Sorry boys, you dont get a "save" for that one, the nurses do. They started CPR before you guys got there

//the more you know
2012-10-22 02:29:38 PM  
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Neato: EMT training isn't mandatory for every fire fighter? Firetrucks respond to medical emergencies specifically because they are trained to do so and they often can arrive faster than an ambulance.


They've got training, but this department probably wants someone with certification who'd have more extensive training. My guess is they're also planning ahead for emergencies where they'd have to put out a fire as well as have someone acting as a paramedic.
2012-10-22 01:32:45 PM  
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CPR on its own will save somebody 7% of the time. That means the fire dept performed it about 100 times. Less than 100 and their percentage is above average. More than 100 and that number is below. I have no idea how big of an area that dept services, but if it saves at least one life thenit's well worth it.
 
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