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(Slate)   Forty years ago, a bunch of feminists released a landmark album. They wanted to change ... everything   (slate.com) divider line 72
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2012-10-22 11:07:24 AM  

rogue_L_chick: It seems to really confuse his dad, that dress doesn't indicate sexual preference anymore, and everything is so fluid (can't think of a better term).


You know, Elvis used to dress like a Liberace impersonator. It didn't seem to hurt his popularity with the ladies.
 
2012-10-22 11:17:12 AM  
For a variety of reasons, I am no longer so enamored of Feminism, but I still love, and will always love,

That Girl.
 
2012-10-22 11:39:38 AM  
My mom bought that album.

The same year she divorced my dad.

//Free to be / me and me.
// She was woman, hear her roar, kick my daddy out the door.

catmandu: The early 70's feminist trifecta:

Free To Be: You and Me
Our Bodies, Ourselves
Tapestry (Carole King)


You forgot:

Helen Reddy / I am Woman.

Mom had that one, she had the Free to Be album too.

Both were pretty scary radical stuff in small town midwest early 70s.

So was getting the kids to testify to 'mental cruelty' so you could justify getting a divorce.
 
2012-10-22 11:44:35 AM  

TehBoognish: What feminists making music sounds like now

/love those girls


HAWT
 
2012-10-22 11:45:44 AM  
I had no idea this was a feminist manifesto. I remember it as just a record with catchy songs and funny stories we listened to at school occasionally.

Then again, I was like 5, so what the hell did I know.
 
M-G
2012-10-22 12:01:59 PM  
In my day, we watched this on 16mm film....

I suppose the indoctrination worked, since I can still remember the chorus for the song about crying.

And now I have a daughter who loves her princess stuff, but loves to find bugs, and a son who loves his cars, but likes to get his toenails painted.
 
2012-10-22 12:51:02 PM  
FTA:"The first records I remember playing on the hi-fi in our family room were the John Denver and the Muppets Christmas album, Jackson Browne's Running on Empty, and a 45 of "Pac-Man Fever" by Buckner & Garcia. But the first record that I remember being mine was a hand-me-down copy of Free To Be ... You and Me."

WOW your parents taste in music blows. I remember Sgt. Pepper, Crime of the Century, and Briefcase Full of Blues being among the first records I played as a child in the 70s.
 
2012-10-22 01:09:07 PM  

Nightsweat: 2 Hookers and an 8 Ball: Maybe I'm missing something here, but twice in that article they seemed to say that if a girl wanted to a be a princess, that's a bad thing. Why?

Because we're a farking democratic republic you monarchist swine!


LOL. +1
 
2012-10-22 01:21:42 PM  
Having boys who paint their toenails is great and all, but when they grow up and cry in front of their wife and act all emotional and their wife has a headache every night...well....We'll see how free they feel to be that way.

(Take that '70s marxist ideologies...yeah)
 
2012-10-22 01:24:49 PM  

42nate: FTA:"The first records I remember playing on the hi-fi in our family room were the John Denver and the Muppets Christmas album, Jackson Browne's Running on Empty, and a 45 of "Pac-Man Fever" by Buckner & Garcia. But the first record that I remember being mine was a hand-me-down copy of Free To Be ... You and Me."

WOW your parents taste in music blows. I remember Sgt. Pepper, Crime of the Century, and Briefcase Full of Blues being among the first records I played as a child in the 70s.


If you don't enjoy the Muppets/John Denver Christmas album, you are dead inside.
 
2012-10-22 01:51:26 PM  
Why do so many women complain about their salaries? I mean, the average woman makes $0.74 for every dollar that man makes. They should be happy that they are making that much money. It is about $0.49 more than they deserve.

/Just kidding!
 
2012-10-22 02:29:48 PM  

2 Hookers and an 8 Ball: Maybe I'm missing something here, but twice in that article they seemed to say that if a girl wanted to a be a princess, that's a bad thing. Why?


Seriously though, it seems to me that girls are free to be whomever they want - as long as their aspirations are on the feminists' approved list. Anything that seems traditional or domestic is forbidden. Disney princesses are pretty, "classically" feminine, and not only like men but actively seek one. This of course is unacceptable.

What's so stupid about this is that in their rush to provide girls with the "correct" indoctrination, feminists ignore the fact that early childhood is a time of magic thinking, where fantasy and reality intermix. A little girl might enjoy imagining herself as a princess in a castle or a damsel in distress, but it doesn't mean anything. She just enjoys being the dramatic center of attention.

It's no different than a little boy imagining he is a dinosaur tamer or blowing up the Deathstar. No one assumes that is going to be his life-long career plan.

In the case of my own daughter, when she was little she loved Disney princess stuff. She watched the movies and asked for the dresses for her birthday. She had a great time. Now that she has attainted the venerable age of 8, she considers Disney princesses "babyish" and wants nothing to do with them.

Today she loves science and wants to be an astronomer or a biologist when she grows up. She also loves singing, soccer, dancing and pretty dresses. I try to support all her interests, and I'm glad she doesn't feel constrained by what others (including feminists) think she should like.
 
2012-10-22 02:42:45 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com
While we're here.
 
2012-10-22 03:10:03 PM  

pciszek: 2 Hookers and an 8 Ball: Maybe I'm missing something here, but twice in that article they seemed to say that if a girl wanted to a be a princess, that's a bad thing. Why?

Because there is a shortage of wealthy princes available to rascal them and take them awry, and most of those are douchebags who will abandon them with no assets or job skills once they've had a kid or two. Because being a princess means being useless and not knowing how to take care of youself--princesses don't do icky things like change oil or balance checking accounts. Because every princess lives on the backs of at least 10,000 serfs. Because the world is too damn full of princess wannabes already.


Funny, y'know sometimes Beasts make a good prince for Beauty/Belle... the problem is we're in a society that seems to rewards douches. Next time girls, you want to find a nerd with a shy disposition, and marry them. Unless they are a frog that becomes a prince, they're there for life.
 
2012-10-22 03:13:49 PM  
Paving the way for this, the most important album released in 1977...

www.strangecosmos.com
 
2012-10-22 03:40:28 PM  

People_are_Idiots: Funny, y'know sometimes Beasts make a good prince for Beauty/Belle... the problem is we're in a society that seems to rewards douches. Next time girls, you want to find a nerd with a shy disposition, and marry them. Unless they are a frog that becomes a prince, they're there for life.


yeah. You can walk ALL over that schmuck for the rest of your life.
 
2012-10-22 03:46:52 PM  

JustTheTip: It's no different than a little boy imagining he is a dinosaur tamer or blowing up the Deathstar.


Except it's very different. Taming a dinosaur or blowing up the Deathstar are actively doing something. A princess is a princess because of who she marries or who her parents are, not about anything she accomplishes. Of course there's nothing wrong with fantasizing about a castle and pretty clothes. But you really, really don't want your daughter to define herself solely by her inherited wealth or her choice of partner.
 
2012-10-22 03:54:15 PM  

fireclown: People_are_Idiots: Funny, y'know sometimes Beasts make a good prince for Beauty/Belle... the problem is we're in a society that seems to rewards douches. Next time girls, you want to find a nerd with a shy disposition, and marry them. Unless they are a frog that becomes a prince, they're there for life.

yeah. You can walk ALL over that schmuck for the rest of your life.


Better to do the walking. At least a nerd who's shy can easily be "trained." A macho misogynist "hunk" can't.
 
2012-10-22 04:03:45 PM  
Bulls on Parade?
 
2012-10-22 04:32:50 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-22 04:59:26 PM  
came here for leapin lesbians album pic, leaving satisfied..

/lickity split~
 
2012-10-23 01:44:14 AM  
Well. Learn something new every day. Also nice to read an article that uses real, whole words and proper grammar. Not to mention that there is actual information in the article.

Subby I commend you on the find.
 
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