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(Bloomberg)   Ancestry.com, the website your parents and grandparents love so much, is being sold. Fark: For $1.6 billion. That's "billion" with a "b"   (bloomberg.com) divider line 89
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2012-10-22 11:35:08 AM
I've tried using it but I don't get very far. Doesn't help I had a great-grandfather who came here illegally from italy.
 
2012-10-22 01:04:16 PM

raerae1980: I've tried using it but I don't get very far. Doesn't help I had a great-grandfather who came here illegally from italy.


I've had a lot of success with it for the English/Irish side of the family. Couldn't get past my great-grandparents on the Polish side though.
 
2012-10-22 01:30:06 PM

raerae1980: I've tried using it but I don't get very far. Doesn't help I had a great-grandfather who came here illegally from italy.



I love it, but my ancestors came here legally through NYC, so its all well documented.  I could see your issue not getting you far.
 
Also my mom is the only one on her side of the family here, the rest are in Australia (and always have been).  They've documented Australia very well (which was a surprise to me.)
 
2012-10-22 02:39:14 PM
Provo, Utah-based Ancestry.com reported second-quarter sales and profit in July that topped analysts' estimates, helped by user gains and demand for new products. Ancestry.com also raised its sales forecast for 2012 to as much as $480 million.

I would have figured the LDS church would have purchased them. I know they have their own database, but figured they'd tie in with this one to make it more mainstream, so they could collect more information. For the cause.
 
2012-10-22 02:49:56 PM
They are going to lade it up with debt, move the manufacturing the China, and waltz away as it craters.

Its the Romney way.
 
2012-10-22 02:52:53 PM
Now they know everything about you.
 
2012-10-22 02:54:01 PM
Well, Bob's your uncle.
 
2012-10-22 02:54:05 PM
Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.
 
2012-10-22 02:55:45 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


Because not all of us are satisfied with being ignorant mongoloids
 
2012-10-22 03:04:18 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


Because it's interesting.

"Why do people like things I don't like!?!"
 
2012-10-22 03:11:10 PM

Smeggy Smurf: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.

Because not all of us are satisfied with being ignorant mongoloids


You know that's racist, right? Link

(Oh, if only we could send the Golden Khanate over HTML...)
 
2012-10-22 03:11:26 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


Knowing if there is a history of genetic diseases in your bloodline is one very practical reason, but otherwise, just or the fun of it.

Also, while I was a bit stunned and shook my head at the high price tag, I thought it was interesting to note that they have made a profit ever since they went public (and maybe before that, too).
 
2012-10-22 03:13:39 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


All of my grandparents died before I was born. With them, most of the family history went too. I would love to know my family history prior to mid 20th century.
 
2012-10-22 03:19:16 PM

bearcats1983: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.

All of my grandparents died before I was born. With them, most of the family history went too. I would love to know my family history prior to mid 20th century.


Pretty much this. And my sister died from a genetic disease (Huntington's), so there's that.
 
2012-10-22 03:22:08 PM
That's a lot of money for a website that just reposts information from familysearch.
 
2012-10-22 03:30:54 PM
how much it gonna cost me to find out I come from a long line of drunks ?
 
2012-10-22 03:33:41 PM

wrenchboy: how much it gonna cost me to find out I come from a long line of drunks ?


Ask your Mom?
 
2012-10-22 03:36:23 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.



For fun?  What's wrong with that?  Ancestry.com often has more than just census data... I've seen obits on family members from local papers, and all sorts of other cool stuff.  It does take some time to dig through everything.  My wife loves doing the work, though... so we have a pretty damn extensive family tree.  With a ton of attached documents.
 
2012-10-22 03:36:59 PM

wrenchboy: how much it gonna cost me to find out I come from a long line of drunks ?



Depends.  Considering I'm Irish and Australian... well, I kinda already knew that.
 
2012-10-22 03:37:46 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


There are some diseases that are more prevalent in certain groups, and knowing you're part scottish may explain why you have a genetic disorder specific to that area

insert ancestry of your choice in place of scots
 
2012-10-22 03:42:57 PM

Nadie_AZ: Provo, Utah-based Ancestry.com reported second-quarter sales and profit in July that topped analysts' estimates, helped by user gains and demand for new products. Ancestry.com also raised its sales forecast for 2012 to as much as $480 million.

I would have figured the LDS church would have purchased them. I know they have their own database, but figured they'd tie in with this one to make it more mainstream, so they could collect more information. For the cause.


My family showed up nicely once they reached the US, what with ship manifests, naturalization requests, military registration and what-not.

In Italy the only info is what the LDS photographed of the church records, and these are available only on microfilm viewable at one of their centers. I would be happy if they made them available online for a fee.
 
2012-10-22 03:48:55 PM

Skwrl: Smeggy Smurf: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.

Because not all of us are satisfied with being ignorant mongoloids

You know that's racist, right? Link

(Oh, if only we could send the Golden Khanate over HTML...)


Way to duck under the joke
 
2012-10-22 03:51:22 PM
You could get six floors, 13 bedrooms, 35 bathrooms, 100,000 square feet at an excellent location for that kind of money.
 
2012-10-22 03:56:00 PM

vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.




Yeah, who cares about how we got here and what's inside us ... it's like history and biology combined-doubly pointless and boring!
Leave that crap in high school where it should stay.

Gotta run-Honey Boo-Boo is on!
 
2012-10-22 03:57:31 PM
vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


So you can brag that X famous person is like your great half step 5th cousin in law.
 
2012-10-22 04:00:04 PM
For fun? What's wrong with that? Ancestry.com often has more than just census data... I've seen obits on family members from local papers, and all sorts of other cool stuff. It does take some time to dig through everything. My wife loves doing the work, though... so we have a pretty damn extensive family tree. With a ton of attached documents.

It's been my dad's hobby for a decade. His database has literally tens of thousands of entries (and his mom's line ends at her - she's a big mystery). He's on the beta for every new version they release, and I don't doubt that his db has been specifically mentioned in design/qa meetings.

/have the direct patrilineal line traced back to 1450 (so far) in Scotland
 
2012-10-22 04:04:10 PM

brap: Well, Bob's your uncle.


I actually did have an uncle named Bob.
 
2012-10-22 04:14:02 PM

wrenchboy: how much it gonna cost me to find out I come from a long line of drunks ?


My family's Coat of Arms has a castle and grapes on it. So either my ancestors tended the king's vineyards or was the town drunk.
 
2012-10-22 04:15:51 PM

Iceman_Cometh: My family's Coat of Arms has a castle and grapes on it. So either my ancestors tended the king's vineyards or was the town drunk.


or they got drunk off their own wine
 
2012-10-22 04:15:59 PM
Sounds more fairly priced than Facebook.
 
2012-10-22 04:20:27 PM
It does A-OK back a couple dozen generations but has a total mental collapse when it gets to my Welsh relatives in 1340's when our surname had no vowels. And "first names" apparently hadn't been invented yet.

Nor were women's names. I guess your daughters only had names once they were married -- and became "Wife of Vxhwllnfgwll"
 
2012-10-22 04:22:19 PM
My life is so much better now that I know was my great-grandfather was the town drunk.

Thanks ancestory.com!
 
2012-10-22 04:22:37 PM

downstairs: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


For fun?  What's wrong with that?  Ancestry.com often has more than just census data... I've seen obits on family members from local papers, and all sorts of other cool stuff.  It does take some time to dig through everything.  My wife loves doing the work, though... so we have a pretty damn extensive family tree.  With a ton of attached documents.


I didn't say that there is anything wrong with people wanting to know more about their ancestry. I asked why. What makes it fun and interesting to people so much that this website is worth $1b? I genuinely want to know.

Medical history is one of the obvious reasons, but I can't believe people would get much enjoyment from knowing their family's ailments.

Is it the detective work involved? Is it hoping that you will find out that you're related to someone famous? Do you just like making scrapbooks?

I ask simply because I can't imagine caring about some dead people that I can be genetically traced to. I'm not shiatting on someone's hobby, just curious as to why people enjoy it.
 
2012-10-22 04:29:30 PM

pudding7: raerae1980: I've tried using it but I don't get very far. Doesn't help I had a great-grandfather who came here illegally from italy.

I've had a lot of success with it for the English/Irish side of the family. Couldn't get past my great-grandparents on the Polish side though.


I'm stymied by my Portuguese and German ancestors, but the English ancestors are all very well documented.

Also, they started adding yearbooks a few months ago, and I found my maternal grandmother's high school photo, plus a couple more from some extracurricular activities. She died in 1950, so for my mom this is huge. She gets some new pics of her mom that she never expected to see.
 
2012-10-22 04:31:04 PM
The only thing more boring than you are your dead relatives.
 
2012-10-22 04:35:53 PM

StopLurkListen: It does A-OK back a couple dozen generations but has a total mental collapse when it gets to my Welsh relatives in 1340's when our surname had no vowels. And "first names" apparently hadn't been invented yet.

Nor were women's names. I guess your daughters only had names once they were married -- and became "Wife of Vxhwllnfgwll"


Yup, I've got that, too. Owain ap Maredudd ap Tewdwr, for example.
 
2012-10-22 04:36:35 PM
Tried Ancestry.com a while ago. More recently tried Geni, which actually makes an effort to find how my family tree connects to everyone else's.

/And to the legendary kings and so on. Woot, descended from Odin of Asgaard! ;)
 
2012-10-22 04:38:10 PM

vermicious k'nid: downstairs: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.


For fun?  What's wrong with that?  Ancestry.com often has more than just census data... I've seen obits on family members from local papers, and all sorts of other cool stuff.  It does take some time to dig through everything.  My wife loves doing the work, though... so we have a pretty damn extensive family tree.  With a ton of attached documents.

I didn't say that there is anything wrong with people wanting to know more about their ancestry. I asked why. What makes it fun and interesting to people so much that this website is worth $1b? I genuinely want to know.

Medical history is one of the obvious reasons, but I can't believe people would get much enjoyment from knowing their family's ailments.

Is it the detective work involved? Is it hoping that you will find out that you're related to someone famous? Do you just like making scrapbooks?

I ask simply because I can't imagine caring about some dead people that I can be genetically traced to. I'm not shiatting on someone's hobby, just curious as to why people enjoy it.



Cool.  I misinterpreted your original comment as trolling.
 
I've always thought it was cool to think of what my ancestors did in the past.  Can't really give you a reason beyond that.  Ancestry.com lets me put some hard evidence to that imagination.
 
Ancestry has more than just a family tree with names.  You can see census entries over time... which list ocupation and other stuff.  I find it cool to see what my ancestors did for work over time.
 
2012-10-22 04:49:28 PM
For a BYU senior year, computer programming project, those two missionaries made out pretty well.
 
2012-10-22 05:10:23 PM
sneezes at your paltry $1.6 billion

si.wsj.net
 
2012-10-22 05:18:19 PM
The dabbling I do in it is just slowly digitizing the boxes and boxes of my Grandmother's genealogy work, not really adding anything new to the pile. It's sorta a way to reconnect with my memories of her. And, honestly, I give the old gal full props for her organization and patience (even if it's admittedly meaningless). It's one thing with a nice GUI GEDCOM editor. It's something else entirely when it was trays of 3x5 cards and hand-drawn trees on 30 taped-together pieces of paper.
 
2012-10-22 05:34:21 PM
There is nothing that will make me be rude to an oldster faster than them starting to drone on about genealogy.

Those people are dead, I don't care, and STFU.
 
2012-10-22 05:42:37 PM

buster_v: The only thing more boring than you are your dead relatives.


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'Yes. The Old Ones.'
 
2012-10-22 06:08:34 PM
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2012-10-22 06:16:53 PM

Smeggy Smurf: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.

Because not all of us are satisfied with being ignorant mongoloids


So not knowing who people I've never met and never will (them being dead for decades/centuries and all that) makes someone an ignorant mongoloid? Some of us could care less.
 
2012-10-22 06:20:11 PM

nmemkha: My life is so much better now that I know was my great-grandfather was the town drunk.

Thanks ancestory.com!


Uncle Otis?
 
2012-10-22 06:26:04 PM
apparently he comes from a long line of hair!

www.clevelandleader.com
 
2012-10-22 06:26:46 PM

dbirchall: Tried Ancestry.com a while ago. More recently tried Geni, which actually makes an effort to find how my family tree connects to everyone else's.

/And to the legendary kings and so on. Woot, descended from Odin of Asgaard! ;)


I always thought that would be a good idea - once a small percentage of people really into it trace back multiple lines fairly deep, most people even with a passing interest will end up going back far enough to connect into their research many times over and the benefits grow exponentially.
 
2012-10-22 06:57:15 PM

bearcats1983: vermicious k'nid: Can someone please tell me why anyone would give a fark about their ancestry?

Serious question.

All of my grandparents died before I was born. With them, most of the family history went too. I would love to know my family history prior to mid 20th century.


Mine did too. And for whatever reason, neither my father nor his only brother ever spoke of the family history (for no good reason that I've found). What little my widowed aunt knew was incomplete and, in some cases, wrong. Nobody even knew what the pre-immigration last name was, nor what part of eastern Europe they came from. Fortunately, I've been able to uncover and restore the history.

And yes, for me the fun was in the detective work.

CSB: Because of the family name change I was able to get relatively little from Ancestry.com, but eventually pieced a lot together from other sources, including other people on geni.com whose trees intersected with mine and who had done primary research (some of those people have become established online friends). The big breakthroughs came when the 1911 UK census became available, and also when the London Gazette put its OCRed archive online. (If your family tree goes back to the UK you should definitely check it out: as an Official Newspaper of Record for the UK it published naturalization notices, insolvencies, and all kinds of other interesting stuff. Because it's OCRed from old printed copies, there are a lot of mistranscriptions though.) By great good fortune, I found my grandfather's naturalization notice there, which identified him both by his adopted last name and original last name, giving me the essential link. With the last name and his birthplace in Poland in hand, I was able to connect to an organization that had already extensively documented the genealogy of the Jewish population in his home town. So in one fell swoop I was able to go from the early 20th century to the late 18th.

Of course, this may not help you; I had the advantage of having a last name that is nearly unique (because it was made up), so almost any lead was a good lead.

End CSB

But regardless of where the trail lead, the pleasure was in the journey, not destination.

/To the original questioner: FWIW, I suspect some people may have taken your serious question at less than face value because of the use of the expression "give a fark". Given your follow-ups I do believe it was a serious question, but your phrasing didn't help.
 
2012-10-22 07:22:15 PM

xria: dbirchall: Tried Ancestry.com a while ago. More recently tried Geni, which actually makes an effort to find how my family tree connects to everyone else's.

/And to the legendary kings and so on. Woot, descended from Odin of Asgaard! ;)

I always thought that would be a good idea - once a small percentage of people really into it trace back multiple lines fairly deep, most people even with a passing interest will end up going back far enough to connect into their research many times over and the benefits grow exponentially.


It actually is a really good idea, and their implementation of it is decent (although they eventually limited what free accounts could do).
 
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