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2012-10-22 04:43:44 PM  

Keigh: ok, and you know what else bothers me about Revolution? The St. Louis Arch is torn in half. Seriously?? i mean, i get the "things get broken in the apocalypse" premise but that thing is made of stainless steel. and the broken section is over 600 feet high. I briefly considered that maybe they had to cut people out of it but, it has stairs. it's 50 years old already, so 15 years of not running the trams is not going to degrade it.

maybe it got hit by a plane but then the whole thing would be flattened, not sticking up into the air in two pieces.


Maybe it was scraped, like in Lord of War when Cage's plane is turned into a skeleton overnight.
 
2012-10-22 04:44:44 PM  

The Banana Thug: That's what bothered me about Alcatraz, it was very episodic with a tired baddie-of-the-week format. They went with the very wrong approach there. Stopped watching by the 5th episode.


It got significantly more serial in the latter half of the season. There was actually an interesting master plot that was taking shape. Unfortunately, they lost too many viewers over the first handful of episodes to keep the show going.

It's the same exact way Dollhouse went. That show had some pretty bad and generic standalone episodes at the beginning, but by the time it went to a more serial story, it had lost too many viewers.
 
2012-10-22 04:50:02 PM  

MoronLessOff: scraped


i think you mean scrapped, and i guess that's possible but, why would they take the scrap from the top? they'd have had to get in to the structure, climb the stairs (so many damn stairs), dismantle whatever they can with a wrench (do blowtorches even work?) and then... drop it into the park? carry it back down the stairs? and what are you going to do with stainless steel without a TIG welder anyway?

I think they are just over reaching on the "old world is old" premise. Someone else mentioned how the uniforms and furniture look antique. I think they just wanted something to give the apocalypse feeling and the Arch is a big landmark. However..... why don't we get glimpses of Liberty in New York? (especially since that appears to be where the lights went out first...)
 
2012-10-22 04:55:03 PM  

Keigh: MoronLessOff: scraped

i think you mean scrapped, and i guess that's possible but, why would they take the scrap from the top? they'd have had to get in to the structure, climb the stairs (so many damn stairs), dismantle whatever they can with a wrench (do blowtorches even work?) and then... drop it into the park? carry it back down the stairs? and what are you going to do with stainless steel without a TIG welder anyway?

I think they are just over reaching on the "old world is old" premise. Someone else mentioned how the uniforms and furniture look antique. I think they just wanted something to give the apocalypse feeling and the Arch is a big landmark. However..... why don't we get glimpses of Liberty in New York? (especially since that appears to be where the lights went out first...)


Nope, scraped, like with a butter knife. (English fail)

Also, isn't there a video game commercial or something that shows the Arch in decay, or is that part of Revolution? I've been wondering if it's a regional thing. Like, in San Fran, do they have a similar scene with the Golden Gate bridge crumbling?
 
2012-10-22 04:59:44 PM  

MoronLessOff: Revolution


this is one shot i googled up. it's not quite the same as the one they keep showing in the opener scene. and in all honesty East st louis looks like that already. 

image was too big.
 
2012-10-22 05:00:50 PM  

Girion47: TimeWaste: CaptainCampbell: Arrow is my favorite new show of the Fall.

/feels dirty for watching CW

I'm really enjoying Arrow. I hope it keeps up.

I feel dirty for enjoying Elementary.

/Cumberbatch is better.


I confess I thought it was stupid too, but now I'm hooked.

The Sherlock Homes in the books is apparently very similar and was why he needed Watson.
 
2012-10-22 05:06:42 PM  

Keigh: MoronLessOff: Revolution

this is one shot i googled up. it's not quite the same as the one they keep showing in the opener scene. and in all honesty East st louis looks like that already. 

image was too big.


That doesn't look like the one I have in mind. I'll pay more attention next time I see the game commercial. IIRC, the top left of the Arch *viewed from the river) is down to the support structure, but the skyline doesn't quite seem to match up.
 
2012-10-22 05:59:19 PM  

Girion47: FeedTheCollapse: The DBS: I watched the crappy first episode and assumed it wouldn't last a season. I didn't know it was still on.

I'm amazed that no one seems to like the show, yet it was picked up for a full season. I get the feeling that Sci-Fi fans are so hard up for Sci-Fi that they'll attach themselves to anything delegated as Sci-Fi, regardless of quality.

If a network wanted to make quality sci-fi and for cheap, all they'd have to do is make a TV version of 1632. Finding a rural town in WV and occasionally throwing swords and bad swedish actors at it wouldn't be that expensive.


I love this idea SO MUCH.

Of course they'd probably fark it up by dangling hints that there might be some way for them to get back to their own time.
 
2012-10-22 06:04:50 PM  

NeoCortex42: I'm still wondering what the long-term plan for Last Resort is. I'm liking it so far (ignoring the obvious military inaccuracies), but it still feels like it would be a great mini-series. I don't see yet how it could go on for several seasons and remain interesting.


My problem with Last Resort is that except for the pilot when they launched the nuke at Washington they've been totally reactive all the time. Chaplin doesn't seem to have any kind of plan.

That and the fact that the crew seems to be totally incompetent and undisciplined.
 
2012-10-22 06:29:55 PM  
Revolution just started screening in New Zealand. It's okay so far, it seems to be sticking very closely to Joseph Campbell's monomyth.
 
2012-10-22 06:32:03 PM  
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

/ Talking to you NBC.
 
2012-10-22 07:00:01 PM  

fusillade762: NeoCortex42: I'm still wondering what the long-term plan for Last Resort is. I'm liking it so far (ignoring the obvious military inaccuracies), but it still feels like it would be a great mini-series. I don't see yet how it could go on for several seasons and remain interesting.

My problem with Last Resort is that except for the pilot when they launched the nuke at Washington they've been totally reactive all the time. Chaplin doesn't seem to have any kind of plan.

That and the fact that the crew seems to be totally incompetent and undisciplined.


My hope for a long-term plan is that they change up the format completely at the end of the first season. Have whatever behind-closed-doors coup is being organized come out and openly attack and take over the country. Then have the sub act as something like the last hope for freedom or something. At least then they could have actual purpose week to week.
 
2012-10-22 08:00:10 PM  
In other, totally unrelated news, Fringe is having a pretty solid season. It's entirely dropped the monster of the week charade (three episodes in) and is the serialized sci-fi story it was always meant to be.

/though, to be honest, the enemy are a little corny
 
2012-10-22 10:01:19 PM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: In other, totally unrelated news, Fringe is having a pretty solid season. It's entirely dropped the monster of the week charade (three episodes in) and is the serialized sci-fi story it was always meant to be.

/though, to be honest, the enemy are a little corny


Its the last season.
 
2012-10-22 11:30:12 PM  

HempHead: Its the last season.


Yeah, that's true. I just hope it does well enough to not get yanked before the whole run is through.
 
2012-10-23 12:11:55 AM  

wippit: Solon Isonomia: wippit: Revolution is to The Postman like Terra Nova is to Jurassic Park. I'll just leave it at that.

/still watch it, the wife likes it

Oh come on now, Terra Nova was better than Revolution.

I agree, actually. I had some high hopes for Season 2. Alas...


Agreed. I watched the first three episodes and tried to like it.

I haven't deleted the other episodes off my DVR yet, so I guess I haven't totally given up.
 
2012-10-23 12:17:43 AM  

www.dorktower.com
/hot like a cranky muskrat.

 
2012-10-23 12:36:55 AM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: HempHead: Its the last season.

Yeah, that's true. I just hope it does well enough to not get yanked before the whole run is through.


It's been approved for a set amount of episodes (15 I think) pre-agreed so they could plan out the end game and tell it properly. There will be no monster of the week, it will not get "yanked".

Also it was supposed to be shown with no weeks off, but baseball, I guess, conquers all.
 
2012-10-23 06:25:33 AM  
When I saw the headline I was thinking "Once Upon A Time" until I realized that's on ABC. I thought Grimm was the only show on NBC that was getting ratings. Huh. Live and learn.

But reading through this thread has me thinking Revolution isn't going to be something I'll be catching up on. Giant scientific plausibility gaffes don't do it for me unless there's a strong fantasy element or some kind of acknowledgement of the weirdness by the characters, perhaps with intention to resolve it, which it sounds like hasn't happened. After fifteen years, one would think there'd be rather a lot of information about what had happened and how to fix it. Or some alternate tech would have developed in a big way to exploit the remaining basic physical laws. Or...

What if it isn't that electricity is selectively allowing nervous systems to work but that it's gone and everyone is actually a zombie, working on some negative force which doesn't allow their brains to work well enough to come up with better technology? And we don't realize it because we're seeing the subjective reality of the limited zombie brains, like in that one zombie movie where the group of zombies think they're OK and everyone else is scurrying around like chipmunks on speed when they're really shuffling, decaying idiots.

Nah. Too obvious. But say, that's an idea: With zombies being popular now, celebrities will be wanting to make guest appearances in zombie shows and movies to see how they'd get killed or what kind of zombie they'd be. How about taking old shows and sports footage and digitally editing in gore effects it to make it Zombie TV? Each week they could fix up random episodes of really old and unpopular shows that haven't been aired in forever and classic football games and -- ooh, hockey! Zombies on ice! The NZHL. Or soccer where there's a disembodied head being kicked around by zombies, but the head is still animated and bites the players' feet. Or broader: the Wide World Of Zombie Sports, where that awful ski wipeout in the intro would end with pieces flying off and tumbling down the slope.

Yeah, it's another early morning and I've not been sleeping...
 
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