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2012-10-25 05:42:36 PM
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GreatGlavinsGhost: RichieLaw: GreatGlavinsGhost: Sylvia_Bandersnatch if you're on, I have an idea: could you come up with an alternate opening statement for the donation site? It may be easier for RichieLaw to change it, if he has a definite something to change it to.

Here's mine:
(It may have to start with "Buy Vice President Biden a TransAm", so I'm keeping that)

Buy Vice President Biden a TransAm
Help us raise $25,000 for charity by recreating the internet meme of Joe Biden with a Trans Am in the White House driveway.

It's been changed for several days now: Help us raise $25,000 to buy Joe Biden a gift from the American people as awesome as he is... a vintage Pontiac Trans Am (to be sold for charity).

I saw that. The charity aspect seems to be an afterthought (to me anyway). I just thought that since Sylvia was suggesting a change, that maybe she had a specific change in mind.


I do, and I've said it several times already: REPLACE the text at the TOP of the Indiegogo page with "Give Joe the Bird!" or similar. I just checked, fresh reload, and it still says, "Buy Vice President Biden a TransAm [sic]". I think that will be the first thing many people see, and for many of them it will be the only part they read. The countless comments we've gotten in these threads asking why we hope to buy a car for a rich politician should be evidence of that, and were this mere trolling or just for yuks, that would be funny, rather than distressing. Many people do not agree with that idea. Many people don't want to buy Vice President Biden a Trans Am, or any other car, or anything at all. Many would like to buy him a one-way Amtrak ticket back to Delaware.

I think if we want to appeal only to young, hip Democratic-leaning folks, that header is fine. I think if we'd like to expand the potential donorship beyond that, a change is very much in order. I don't know how much clearer I can make this:

OUT: "Buy Vice President a TransAm"
IN: "Give Joe the Bird!"
2012-10-25 02:44:16 PM
1 votes:
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/Kenny Loggins would give Joe the Bird
2012-10-25 02:10:34 PM
1 votes:
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2012-10-25 12:11:39 PM
1 votes:
I'll be leaving work at 12:30pm today to go VOTE. I'll see you crazy cats on the other side of work tomorrow.

SarahDiddle, can you pick up my slack here and keep the ball rolling today?
2012-10-25 09:26:16 AM
1 votes:
How did we miss this one?
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"JOE ALL THE BIRDS"
2012-10-24 03:33:01 PM
1 votes:

kumanoki: You sound like a pretty knowledgable guy about this type of vehicle. I'd love to get your input as to how we can make the effort work on the charity/ gearhead end of things. I would imagine that we're pushing 30 years on the specific make of vehicle, and that's got to be getting close to classic, right?


First off, Trans Am has minimal concept of classic. They were mass produced vehicles and very affordable. They weren't nice cars relative to say the Corvette and don't command a premium on the block. I paid 20k for a low mileage 1969 Firebird Sport Coupe. That's second year of production, convertible, 400 cu inch engine Ram Air IV and the vehicle had sub 40k on the clock. Interior was immaculate.

1983 to 1990 are some of the least sought after to be honest. Smallest size and smaller engine. Pre 1974 with low mileage or F-Body with the LS1 are the only two that people desire. These days a pre 74 with low miles, nice engine, and intact interior might might bring in a lot on an auction block, but I doubt people are selling them for under 30k. If you have one of those you own it because you love the car and it is your baby.

The second gen Trans Am with a 455 might hold some value in that the 455 was one of the best muscle car engines from their heyday. Lots of nostalgia around that engine. The other packages of the Firebird/Trans Am are okay but they lack the cachet of being first gen.

Third gens are the cheap car you buy your 16 year old kid so he can learn to fix a car. I know three guys who bought cars from that gen for their son to tinker with. I don't think anyone paid over 10k for one. Or you buy it cheap, throw a lot of money into it and and get a sub 10 second track car.

The 4th gen platform does have some value if you can get a good LS1 as I said, the LT1 is not sought after.

There's no limit to the amount of money that could feasibly be put into the car to make it worthy of high-end auctions, but we're also talking about the name attached to it. I disagree with your stance that the name attached to the car wouldn't be enough to get someone to drop coin on it for charity. It's the VP.

I'd argue that very few people want to pay to buy an already racing built Trans Am. They're incredibly easy cars to work on for the most part and most people who own one bought it as a garage project. A lot of the pleasure I get from my two Firebirds was I did all the upgrades myself. The issue I see with this project is you're going to have trouble finding one in pristine condition that people want and 25k is overkill for a high mileage one that someone will just rip apart in their garage. It needs to be something some Pontiac loyalist wants as a collection showpiece or something dirt cheap for a race car. As for the Biden thing, to each their own.

My suggestion would be to get active on:

www.ls1tech.com
www.firebirdnation.com

Both those forums have for sale sections where you can get an idea of what commands what price. I haven't purchased any classic muscle in a long time so my view of what is worth what and what is sought after could be wildly off. They'll also be able to point to the current desired racing mods. Again I'm not current. I put a procharger on my LS1 'Bird but my understanding is that has fallen out of favor in favor of other forced induction. Try to get some company to throw in some free parts, a discount on parts, or something like that. Getting some money off at Holley or something special from them with a Biden stamped part will command more premium than it being touch by Biden.
2012-10-24 02:35:44 PM
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WalMartian: halfof33: Odoriferous Queef: "Twitter is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to biatch about movies and share pornography with one another. Moreover, a a twitterbomb is when many people focus on one person's twitter feed, causing it to be filled with the same information from several different sources."

So you're saying it's SPAM.

That was what i was thinking.

I agree, too. If I were someone getting multiple tweets about the same thing from a bunch of people, it would piss me off and I'd ignore it.


Agreed, I'd just block it as a knee jerk and not even read it. If I did have to read it, I'd definitely not donate. One well crafted email or link to a post I might read, but en masse 140 characters, is still spam.

I also own a Firebird WS6 (which is the same as a F-Body Trans Am), plus a 1969 Firebird, and there is no way you're getting in excess of 25k for a F-Body at auction unless you have a shiatload of mods under the hood. No one pays more than 20k for a low miles late 1990s stock one. Moving beyond that, Biden has no standing in the car community. The fact he touched it and there is a meme isn't going to make people pay 6k plus over market value for it. Some dealer tried to get a premium for Obama's Charger R/T (which Obama actually owned and drove for a time) and he couldn't score that. There are two ways a late model Bird or Trans Am has value. Someone built the hell out of it or its a low mile virgin car ready for you to build up. Biden and meme isn't going to do it.

The only reason people buy F-Bodys, with all their noise issues and spartan interiors is that they are really light, have a LS1, and make excellent drag cars that you can get for 10k to 15k or so. No one is showing up at the track with their F-Body and telling all the rednecks "Yeah this is the Trans Am that Biden touched and I paid in excess of 25k for this sucker." You'd get laughed right off the track.

/or you could buy a Trans Am with a LT1 and never sell it since the LT1 is a giant overweight and under powered iron block
//aka the boat anchor
2012-10-24 12:20:23 PM
1 votes:

kumanoki: Are we doing a Wednesday thread, or are we using this thread as home base for the time being? I plan to pull together some more people to tweet today. If SarahDiddle has access to the list, I'd love to get her input. Also, anyone else who has ideas on who to bomb, let me know. We can rotate through the list of TV stations; we can retweet people we've hit up before. i just need about eight or nine suggestions to create the list for today.


I think the goal is to keep it to one thread each week or until the thread gets to a 1000 comments. The people that are still hanging on will know where to go, and then we won't spam the Fark page too much.

At least until the last two weeks before the end of the campaign. Then we're going to go crazy.
2012-10-24 10:54:41 AM
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WalMartian: We need to find a way to kick this in the butt; interest seems to be waning.


From Friday's thread:

Okay, team- just a quick note on the donations. I know you're just as excited as I am to see the donations climb when you look at the Indiegogo site. It's cool to see the chart that shows our progress, and no one can dispute the fact that this cause raised over half of its expected goal in a week. I think that's one giant F-U to the haters, and maybe why we haven't been seeing the volume of thread-shiatters today.

However, I don't want you to get discouraged if the pace of the donations slow. There are some perfectly valid reasons why that could happen. Most of us are between pay periods, or broke. We've seen exponential growth, but that may not continue. It may take time for national attention to bury its way into the thick skulls of John Q. Taxpayer. Also, we are buried under the noise of the middle of the largest national news cycle in four years.
If that happens, ignore the data haters. Do not get discouraged. Consider that donations will flow and ebb based on the unseen forces of economics. We are going to make this work. We are going to attain our goal. Just don't get uptight if it doesn't happen as fast as you want it to.
2012-10-23 11:42:07 PM
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2012-10-23 11:20:48 PM
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2012-10-23 11:07:21 PM
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2012-10-23 12:37:39 PM
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2012-10-23 06:51:14 AM
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I've been thinking about this, and one thing keeps coming back to me: We REALLY should change the wording at the top of the Indiegogo page. Here's why:

"Buy Vice President Biden a Trans Am" is probably hurting our campaign, because it tends to suggest that we intend to buy Vice President Biden a Trans Am. Which we do not, and which many people disagree with.

In days of old, approximately 40 minutes ago, some people might have thought to themselves, "Hmm, that sounds a bit odd, or at least intrigueing. Let me read on, and see if I can learn some more, to sate my confusion or curiosity." (They may have added an "Eh, wot?" to this.) I modern times, however, a lot of people may not even finish reading the whole title. They'll conclude the wrong thing, react viscerally, and walk away. They won't get the joke, and they'll steam away wondering why a bunch of morans would do such a thing.

We can see the evidence of this, day after day, in the threads and other discussion of the thing. A lot of people arent' getting it. And I don't think it's any coincidence that many of those people seem to be echoing the actual words that we ourselves put in huge fushia letters right at the top of the page. They honestly believe that we intend to buy a car for a rich and powerful man, just as a hoot, and that we're doing it because we think he's an extremely awesome person. It states a non-truth that many disagree with for a wide range of reasons -- many of them quite reasonable -- and also tends to put off those who happen to dislike the Vice President or his party.

Were this some kind of contest to see who could read past the title and maybe win something for it, we might chortle at those people. As it happens, I think we're probably turning away lots of potential donors.

So let's change the wording. I think the alternative is obvious: GIVE JOE THE BIRD.

Not just because that's the language we're using in most of the promotions. (Which, by the way, I can't help also wondering may give the page title the sense of some kind of bait-and-switch for some people. They come there wondering what it's about, then conclude, in just a couple seconds, that it's a particular thing it's not.) "Give Joe the Bird" is eccumenical in tone: It appears to Biden supporters and detractors alike. And by straddling that fence, it helps to lead a larger number of potential donors further down the page, so that they can actually learn what this whole thing is about.

What do you all think?
2012-10-22 05:25:46 PM
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2012-10-22 05:07:21 PM
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serial_crusher: So, the whole thing here is you can't actually give him the car because of his position as Vice President, but what if he hypothetically doesn't get re-elected (hey, there's still hope for Gary Johnson to win, right? right?)? I guess the nice thing to do would still be to auction the car off, but you could legally give it to him after that, right?

Alternatively, how cool would it be if Biden went all out and bought the car in the auction, with his own money?


The whole "he can't accept it" thing is a myth. The law and ethics rules make that quite clear. This is not an attempt to purchase influence, nor does it come from any group that's prohibited from giving gifts to politicians. It doesn't even have the appearance of impropriety.

It would be very cool if Biden bought the car.
2012-10-22 01:16:39 PM
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: in the spirit of Halloween you should try to hit up some of the horror film guys.

Bruce Campbell@GroovyBruce
Wes Craven@wescraven
Rob Zombie@RWZombie
Kane Hodder@KaneHodderKills
Tony Todd@TonyTodd54
Robert Englund@RobertBEnglund
Lance Henriksen RT@lancehenriksen
Bill Moseley @choptopmoseley
Danny Trejo @officialDannyT
Survival of the Dead @OfficialRomero
Ti West @Ti_West
Eli Roth @eliroth
Clive Barker @RealCliveBarker


Excellent suggestions! I'll add these to the list and we'll make sure to strafe these individuals before 10/31.
2012-10-22 01:06:44 PM
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in the spirit of Halloween you should try to hit up some of the horror film guys.

Bruce Campbell@GroovyBruce
Wes Craven@wescraven
Rob Zombie@RWZombie
Kane Hodder@KaneHodderKills
Tony Todd@TonyTodd54
Robert Englund@RobertBEnglund
Lance Henriksen RT@lancehenriksen
Bill Moseley @choptopmoseley
Danny Trejo @officialDannyT
Survival of the Dead @OfficialRomero
Ti West @Ti_West
Eli Roth @eliroth
Clive Barker @RealCliveBarker
2012-10-22 10:09:07 AM
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serial_crusher: dickfreckle: This is a humorous, meme-y way to leave the world a little better than you found it. And that, my brothers and sisters, is the meaning of life. There, I've settled the age-old question for you where philosophers have failed.

I haven't donated yet. I don't like that some of the money is going to GLAAD (not because I have anything against gay people, but I don't think GLAAD is addressing a pressing enough issue that they need my money).

Anyhow, I think for things that support multiple charities like this, donors should be presented with some checkboxes saying where their share of the money should go. I'd gladly donate to the other 3 charities.


I can understand that. We've blanketed donations across several charities to give donators the opportunity to give to one of the charities that they prefer. If this doesn't suit you, you can always make a charitable donation to the ones you prefer individually. Here are the links:

Biden Breast Health Initiative
www.bbhi4health.org/

Doctors Without Borders
www.doctorswithoutborders.org/

Wounded Warrior Project
www.woundedwarriorproject.org/
2012-10-22 09:06:58 AM
1 votes:
As said in other GJTB threads, I admire you people.

I piss on those who find this effort meaningless, or view it through partisan lenses.

This is a humorous, meme-y way to leave the world a little better than you found it. And that, my brothers and sisters, is the meaning of life. There, I've settled the age-old question for you where philosophers have failed.

I'd also like to remind everyone that charity is a lifelong commitment, and I hope your generosity will extend to non-Trans-Am-related concerns. I'm not rich, either. But it's the least we can do.
 
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