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2012-10-21 03:01:41 PM  
7 votes:
The U.S. is supposed to be the paragon of democracy. There shouldn't even be any doubt or question to the system that we use to cast and count our votes. That there is, should be a giant red flag. No one that would call themselves a patriot should stand for any possible flaw, no matter how slight or unlikely it is to effect the outcome.

That the family of a candidate for POTUS can own the company that owns the voting machines, machines with no means of authenticating votes, isn't just ridiculous, it's a national embarrassment.
2012-10-21 12:32:30 PM  
6 votes:

Delay: Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.

The same son, Tagg, when asked what he wanted to do at the debate, "Well, jump out of your seat and you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at him. But you know, you can't do that because - well, first, 'cause there's a lot of Secret Service between you and him."

Republicans have done everything they can do to suppress Democrats vote. The have rigged voting hours, attempted to have poll workers "mistakes" invalidate votes (Ohio), purged voter lists and now this. As Tagg Romney says, Republicans would physically do more illegal stuff, except it might them put themselves in danger.


I think what bothers me most about team Romney is the smug attitude of entitlement. Romney seems to believe that he should be president because he's rich and he wants it.
2012-10-21 12:04:31 PM  
6 votes:
Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.
2012-10-21 02:45:43 PM  
5 votes:
Remember, kids: Birtherism, a theory based on pieces of evidence such as the President won while black, while having a non-protestant sounding name, and while being raised by a foreign-born parent but no ACTUAL evidence is something STILL worth investigating but Republican election fraud, which has evidence such as actual messages with misleading dates, gerrymandering districts and now voting machines paid for by the retroactively-retired CEO of the company is just idiotic libs making idiotic lib noises.
2012-10-21 02:28:53 PM  
5 votes:

Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.


More importantly, why isnt our so called liberal media all over it like white on rice.

You know they would be if Obama or Democrats owned voting machines and was quoted as saying they'd like to take a swing at the president.

Fair and Balanced means Right Wing Only.
2012-10-21 12:26:23 PM  
5 votes:

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


The same son, Tagg, when asked what he wanted to do at the debate, "Well, jump out of your seat and you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at him. But you know, you can't do that because - well, first, 'cause there's a lot of Secret Service between you and him."

Republicans have done everything they can do to suppress Democrats vote. The have rigged voting hours, attempted to have poll workers "mistakes" invalidate votes (Ohio), purged voter lists and now this. As Tagg Romney says, Republicans would physically do more illegal stuff, except it might them put themselves in danger.
2012-10-21 02:53:54 PM  
4 votes:

Dinki: While I'm a big skeptic of the whole "hacked voting machine" conspiracy theory, there is little doubt that the GOP has taken the position that since they can't win by simply counting votes, that voter suppression is the way to go.


How big of a skeptic can you be when TFA talks about the consistent 5% difference between exit polls and the "results"(Favoring the Republicans every time), as well as the mysterious 6% swing in Ohio in the middle of the night, as well as the fact that Scott Walker wouldn't have won his recall without that 5% difference.

Here's the problem: There is no way to audit the machine. It returns end results, but nothing on a per-voter basis. They are also extremely easy to break into, no security at all, and if and when someone DOES break in, there's no real need to cover their tracks, because it's such a simple system that it doesn't keep records regarding access...

Really though, the important part of the story isn't the Black Boxes themselves, but the part about the Romney family investing heavily in the company that owns a major chunk of these. It doesn't matter if the boxes are legit or not, this is a major conflict of interest that should be illegal, and the "blind trust" excuse fails to pass muster on this, there is no way someone with Romney's money can't call his accountant and tell them to get his farking money out of something that is going to compromise his principles. Of course, that would be assuming that Romney HAS principles.

Either way, these things come to your local voting precinct just BEGGING to be hacked, it doesn't require Kevin Mitnick, and then we have the Republican candidate(The party the machines already seem to favor) investing in the company that manufactures a bunch of these? Pretty hard to be skeptical when there is that much data out there, but beng America, the Internet, and Fark, you are most definitely welcome to your opinion.
2012-10-21 12:42:12 PM  
4 votes:

Weaver95: I think what bothers me most about team Romney is the smug attitude of entitlement. Romney seems to believe that he should be president because he's rich and he wants it.


Weaver, I agree with you. Suppose you learned that in some country, lets pick Kazakhstan, they held their election and one candidate and his company owned the voting machines. What would that tell you about the candidate and the process?
2012-10-21 12:11:59 PM  
4 votes:

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state?


No.

Mugato: If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


If Michele bought a similar amount, the right would start killing people.
2012-10-21 11:55:44 AM  
4 votes:
No matter what Republicans say, voting is a right, not a crime.
2012-10-21 04:16:06 PM  
3 votes:

jjorsett: This is the forth article I've seen recently predicting social unrest if Romney wins. The lefties are whipping themselves into a pre-loss frenzy and telling their minions that they're justified in rioting if they don't get what they want.

[i49.tinypic.com image 504x323]


Try to be a rational, thinking person for a change and please tell me what would the reaction be from the right if a close relative of Obama's owned the voting machines in several states, and a state senator from a state that had just passed laws which would disenfranchise a large number of Republican voters said that it was to guarantee Obama's victory.

Tell me what Fox and Rush and Beck and people like you here on Fark would be saying about these developments.
2012-10-21 01:30:39 PM  
3 votes:

RedPhoenix122:
The worst part is it's not in the past, Bain is about to close down one in Freeport, Illinois and I'm noticing a small amount, but not much, discussion about it, and a complete silence from the Romney camp.

Also, per my list earlier, voter coercion. Several companies are now threatening to lay off people if Obama is reelected. The total amount of BS in this election is staggering.


OWS ran into the same sort of wall of silence. the corporate press DOES NOT want to talk about US companies moving jobs out of this country. they'd rather talk about the weather, or which hollywood starlett is sleeping around with which director/producer. anything other than our fiscal problems or the very well documented flaws in what we laughingly call 'capitalism'. people are angry...but they're not yet starving. we're in that weird 'in between' phase when everyone is mad as hell about the elite bankers but it's too early to start shooting the bastards.

for my part, I am continually amazed at rank and file republicans who think Romney (or the GOP in general) cares about the plight of workers in this country. there are piles of evidence that the GOP doesn't give a shiat about helping the middle class. yet, they still keep right on voting Republican. sometimes you just have to let 'em burn.
2012-10-21 12:41:52 PM  
3 votes:
I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood back in the 2004 election. In our neighborhood, there were like 2 voting machines for everyone registered in the area. I had to take an entire day off of work just to wait in line.

Interestingly, in the white suburbs, there were no lines at all. Guess who got to decide how to distribute the machines? One of George W's former campaign advisers. I'm sure there was nothing sketchy about that at all.
2012-10-21 12:20:16 PM  
3 votes:

RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: RedPhoenix122:
There's also the numerous voter ID laws being pushed, the gerrymandering of districts to favor republicans, and the link between Bain Capital and voting machines in swing states.

As despicable as that is, it's legal.

Oh, I know, but it still evidence of voter suppression. I also forgot to mention the multiple incidents of people throwing away voter registration forms.


now - throwing away voter reg forms is highly illegal, and we've got at least ONE documented case of it happening this year. if there's more, or if it shows up that it's part of a larger/organized effort to disenfranchise voters then we've got a very big problem.

I have to admit, i'm a bit concerned. we're out there pushing the vote hard: phone banking, knocking on doors, running social media sites and doing all the things we're supposed to do to get someone elected. But the Republicans aren't pushing as hard. we're not seeing them out there organizing anywhere near the level we are. there's some phone banking going on but nobody is knocking on doors like we are. And we would have seen them by now. our teams have been all over the place. we even managed to get people to knock on doors FOR DEMOCRATS in Perry county...which is redneck territory. But we're not seeing GOP types out there knocking on doors. we've seen signs everywhere though. professional ones, big and small. them things cost some bucks too, lemme tell ya. so i'm thinking the GOP has decided to go with TV ads and signs, at least for this phase of the campaign. They're coming down to the wire though and if they decide to only push on the last week prior to the election then they're going to find we've been there first and talking to people for a while now.
2012-10-21 11:49:37 AM  
3 votes:
While I'm a big skeptic of the whole "hacked voting machine" conspiracy theory, there is little doubt that the GOP has taken the position that since they can't win by simply counting votes, that voter suppression is the way to go.
2012-10-21 06:36:09 PM  
2 votes:

dickfreckle: Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.

This. The Romney clan has to know that even the appearance of impropriety is to be avoided at all costs. So why this curious investment? What could possibly be the motivation of the Romneys, knowing it doesn't pass the smell test?


They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.
2012-10-21 03:32:57 PM  
2 votes:

cc_rider: Dammit. Fark threw away my link to the author's wiki page: Link


*click*

In April and October 2007, Barrett did a series of speaking engagements in Michigan, Chicago, and Wisconsin with William Rodriguez. The month after this tour, Barrett announced to the press his intention to fly to Morocco to "apprehend accused 9/11 hijacker Waleed al-Shehri." [16] Unable to locate his quarry, Barrett had to content himself with penning dispatches from cafes, and a humorous airport story.

dafuq?

Barrett began promoting Captain Eric May and his numerological predictions of upcoming "false flag" (faked) terrorist attacks, none of which ever came to pass.

Okay, got it now, slightly unstable 911 troofer, Islamic convert in the "no one as zealous as" sense with a chronic case of Attention Whore Syndrome and not enuff juice to make it as a guest on Coast2Coast.

Surprised he doesn't have a Fark handle.
2012-10-21 03:28:44 PM  
2 votes:
Let's skip the text and look for the subtext....

He's one of the primary 9/11 Truthers.

Yet the mainstream media, owned by the same interests behind the "black-box" voting machines that manufacture election outcomes, won't touch the issue.


He believes it's all a monolithic GOP backing conspiracy ala Bilderburg & Bohemian Grove.

He might have a point, but he's so full of whargarble I wouldn't associate myself with him.
2012-10-21 03:27:40 PM  
2 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: Semantic Warrior: The U.S. is supposed to be the paragon of democracy. There shouldn't even be any doubt or question to the system that we use to cast and count our votes. That there is, should be a giant red flag. No one that would call themselves a patriot should stand for any possible flaw, no matter how slight or unlikely it is to effect the outcome.

That the family of a candidate for POTUS can own the company that owns the voting machines, machines with no means of authenticating votes, isn't just ridiculous, it's a national embarrassment.

This post is the embarrassment.


Most of your posts are.
2012-10-21 03:12:12 PM  
2 votes:

Cubs300: Maybe I'm being naive, but it doesn't make sense.


Could be both. You are naive and voter suppression should be illegal.
2012-10-21 02:55:51 PM  
2 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Delay: No matter what Republicans say, voting is a right, not a crime.

And no matter what rational people say, if Romney wins it will be considered a theft by some.


So there's absolutely nothing sketchy about Romney's son buying voting machines in Ohio. If you think otherwise, you're not rational
2012-10-21 02:49:45 PM  
2 votes:
So apparently as a country we have learned precisely NOTHING from 2000 and 2004.
2012-10-21 02:47:34 PM  
2 votes:

AbbeySomeone: That word implies choice. Many people feel that the decision has already been made and we are just participating in a charade at this point.


I understand how you feel, but I'm not that cynical.

We do have a choice, and mostly it's to vote or not. Nate Silver had an column on it, or whatever you call his New York Times gig. He summarized polls show folks who are considered unlikely to vote, for one reason or another, favor Obama over Romney something like 3:1. I'm too lazy today to look it up.

Every get out the vote effort helps typical working folks and hurts Romney. So, it's not a charade. Be sure to vote.
2012-10-21 02:43:37 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah, these voting machines have been suspect since they hit the street, yet they're still being used. Go figure.

I just want to see where they go with the 'Romney Family Owns Electronic Voting Machine Company' angle. I hope someone scrapes the slime off this story next week and really breaks it... So far, it's kind of small potatoes, but seems to be picking up some steam.

Jesus, they run on the 'morals' platform, yet they're crooked as all fark.
2012-10-21 01:09:00 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.


I think he understands, I just think he doesn't care.
2012-10-21 12:51:36 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.


Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.
2012-10-21 12:12:45 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: RedPhoenix122:
There's also the numerous voter ID laws being pushed, the gerrymandering of districts to favor republicans, and the link between Bain Capital and voting machines in swing states.

As despicable as that is, it's legal.


Oh, I know, but it still evidence of voter suppression. I also forgot to mention the multiple incidents of people throwing away voter registration forms.
2012-10-21 12:03:24 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Dinki: While I'm a big skeptic of the whole "hacked voting machine" conspiracy theory, there is little doubt that the GOP has taken the position that since they can't win by simply counting votes, that voter suppression is the way to go.

well....I've seen evidence that the GOP is putting out incorrect information, but nothing more than that. the assumption is that they're deliberately misinforming minority voters but I couldn't prove it.


There's also the numerous voter ID laws being pushed, the gerrymandering of districts to favor republicans, and the link between Bain Capital and voting machines in swing states.
2012-10-21 12:03:14 PM  
2 votes:
It will be a close election. Both sides will cry fraud.

I want a 269 tie where the house voted in Romney and the Senate votes in Biden as Veep.
2012-10-21 11:47:08 AM  
2 votes:
while there have been some silly business with the polls....I've been out on the campaign trail in my local area and I can say I haven't seen any evidence of fraud on the part of the GOP. well, at least in my area anyways. In fact I haven't seen the GOP out there at all. plenty of signs but no door to door canvassing and no phone banks.

there was one questionable incident that I can verify I've seen with my own eyes - in the black neighborhoods there have been GOP flyers being posted with incorrect information about Pennsylvania's voter ID law. someone in the GOP (or who's leaning GOP) has been pushing flyers that say the voter ID law is still in effect. this is untrue, since the courts have suspended the law until after the current election is over. so either the GOP is ill informed...or they're playing stupid on purpose. either way it's scummy behavior.

but that's the only thing I can say i've seen done with my own eyes. if there's any other funny bidness going on, I haven't seen any evidence of it.
2012-10-21 11:39:28 AM  
2 votes:
Hey listen trollmitter, TFA is factual.
2012-10-22 01:03:45 AM  
1 votes:

nmemkha: Who cares? Its all theater anyway. We chose between two carefully selected front men, already groomed and ready to implement the wishes of those with money. Its an open secret, but we have grown too distracted, lazy, and complacent to care more than a few angry internet post or a nice day in the sunshine holding up misspelled signs.


Actually, you're welcome to study the rather long list of accomplishments this administration has achieved and take that smug "both parties are the same" crap and stuff it.
2012-10-21 10:01:35 PM  
1 votes:

A Dark Evil Omen: dickfreckle: Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.

This. The Romney clan has to know that even the appearance of impropriety is to be avoided at all costs. So why this curious investment? What could possibly be the motivation of the Romneys, knowing it doesn't pass the smell test?

They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.


The media's utter lack of teeth is really beginning to piss me off. I'm 38, and even though I was a very young man I recall a time when the press was a pack of wolves and you hoped not to cross them. Well, they still are, but it's more about celebrity now.

Sadly, were a member of Obama's family to have investments in voting machines, the press would be on fire for weeks. Were Democratic operatives responsible for the rash of voter fraud cases - no matter how minor - the press and FOX (note that I separated them) would be in a feeding frenzy. So why, WHY, are Republicans getting a pass on virtually everything they do, unless it's as mind-numbingly stupid as "legitimate rape?" And they only reported on that because they had no choice. It was already viral.

That anyone can look me in the face and, without a trace of a sarcastic grin, claim that the media is "liberal" just astounds me. Hell, look at the Tea Party vs. OWS. The TP got sh*t-tons of coverage on all major networks and in all newspapers/periodicals, and it was mostly to probe their side of the issues and not to mock them. OWS?

DRUM CIRCLES! HIPPIES!
2012-10-21 09:13:48 PM  
1 votes:

Chimperror2: If Dems refrain from petitioning the courts to keep stronghold polling places open longer in close districts, I'll pay attention to "voter suppression" nonsense.


What would be wrong with allowing more people to vote?
2012-10-21 07:52:16 PM  
1 votes:
Those who know history are doomed to helplessly watch it repeat itself.
2012-10-21 07:15:05 PM  
1 votes:
Hold it. Wait a second. When did Willard flood the streets with cocaine?

I know about the vulture fund stuff and the being a total upper class twit stuff, but I thought it was the CIA that flooded the streets with crack, and not cocaine, which is a rich man's drug.

They're mixing all the conspiracy theories together promiscuously again, aren't they?

They always do that.

You start out with a well documented and sensible conspiracy (such as Republican ownership, control and abuse of voting machines) and then they go and muddle it all up.

Let's keep it together people. You have to stick to the real conspiracies, the facts, and plausibility or else everything washes out like when you combine all the colours in your paint box in hopes of getting something really cool and all you get is a brownish muck-gray.

One, you should get rid of voting machines altogether and use a simple paper ballot which you mark with a pencil, and two, the Romneys are upper class shiats and should never be allowed near power in a democracy.

That's all you need to know.

Oh, and the Mormon religion is totally made-up crap, not unlike so many other religions, if not all of them. You might as well elect a GD scientologist or a right wing Protestant for all the good that it'll get you.
2012-10-21 07:02:36 PM  
1 votes:

cman: cman: A Dark Evil Omen: They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.

I never thought I would ever find something more full of shiat than a porta-john, but hey, I found it.

Let me elaborate

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


The media (MSM and otherwise) has attacked Obama and Romney plenty, but over stupid stuff, like "binders of women" or "put y'all back in chains." Voter fraud is way to complicated to register with most news organizations, so it won't get any major play no matter who is being accused.
2012-10-21 06:59:13 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


As I've already said, the GOP has been pushing the voter fraud theory hard so that if their guy loses they can cry foul almost before the last vote is tallied and demand a recount. They've had to back of a little recently now that the vote looks like it could be close, because it could backfire on them: All cases of "voter fraud" have been Republican in nature, and the Democrats are sure to call for a recount in any close swing states if Obama loses, especially since the Republicans have been shrieking about fraud all this time.

If either side wins decisively, there will probably be no calls of voter fraud; but if it comes down to one or two swing states, like it did in 2000, you can brace yourself for another Supreme Court decision. UNLESS the state in question has iron-clad recount laws already in place, something I don't think either party has considered: The reason it went to the Court in 2000 was that Florida had just switched over to new recount laws, and they'd never been tested before the Presidential election. Any state with old, tested laws is not going to have that problem, and a recount is not going to be an issue.
2012-10-21 06:52:07 PM  
1 votes:

cman:

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


except that Romney has been caught telling complete fabrications more than once. And not just 'shading the truth a little'. i'm talking full on complete fantasy - if if was anyone else, you'd recommend they be sent for a psych evaluation...THAT'S the level of delusion we're talking about here. And nobody seems willing to point out to Romney that he's delusional.
2012-10-21 06:50:38 PM  
1 votes:

cman: The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


Actually, I was kinda hoping Romney would win.

Doesn't change the fact that the media treats the right wing with kid gloves and you're an idiot or shill if you have convinced yourself otherwise.
2012-10-21 06:34:10 PM  
1 votes:

Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.


This. The Romney clan has to know that even the appearance of impropriety is to be avoided at all costs. So why this curious investment? What could possibly be the motivation of the Romneys, knowing it doesn't pass the smell test?
2012-10-21 05:42:57 PM  
1 votes:
Harper's magazine did a recent cover story on right-wing voter fraud since 2000. It's well-researched, chilling, and not tinfoil-hat nonsense.

The full article is paywalled but an excerpt is here: http://harpers.org/#hbc-90008943
2012-10-21 03:59:05 PM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: Except that it's been overturned for the coming election; even those not showing ID in PA will be allowed to vote.


Yeah, but the billboards are still up threatening jail for those PA voters that attempt to vote without showing proper ID. fark Republicans.
2012-10-21 03:39:16 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: in the black neighborhoods there have been GOP flyers being posted with incorrect information about Pennsylvania's voter ID law


this one is state sponsored. and Hispanic. the PA state government has done everything in their power to push the ID law even disobeying a federal court order.

remember: voter ID which will allow Romney to win PA - done
2012-10-21 03:29:09 PM  
1 votes:
like I said - at least in my area, we're not seeing the Republicans out there doing the work necessary to get Romney elected. which is awesome...but it makes me wonder what their plan is...
2012-10-21 02:57:12 PM  
1 votes:
I look at it like this one time a caught my kid putting the step ladder next to the refrigerator where the cookies are on top of. " What are you doing? "

" Nothing why do you think im doing something?!? " my kid says with the most innocent face she could muster

Voter ID laws that are made JUST for people who vote Democratic IE minorities and elderly in swing states, Romney's own kid buying election machines just for Ohio ( ?!??!) guy who works for election company for VA caught red handed throwing away democratic voter registration forms, company still is working for VA, Billboard in african american neighborhoods in cleveland warning about voter fraud and only in those neighborhoods ( they look more like they are trying to scare people from voting ), Voter card in spanish that give the wrong date when the election is in AZ.

Nope nothing to see here ..herp a derp!
2012-10-21 02:48:46 PM  
1 votes:
fta: And it gets worse. Karl Rove and the Republican election fraud machine not only stole the 2004 elections, they murdered the computer expert who orchestrated the theft, Mike Connell, shortly before he was scheduled to testify in court against Rove.

Oh, FFS.

If you flip the Vince Foster conspiracy coin over is this what's on the other side?

That noted, Republican efforts to rig the vote through gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisement, caging, misinformation campaigns, and biased election officials are all real causes for concern and not the trolly variety.
2012-10-21 02:37:17 PM  
1 votes:
5 individuals in Washington DC are going to make sure Romney is elected. All the GOP has to do is make the theft look reasonable. Just keep the margin supposedly close.
2012-10-21 02:28:08 PM  
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: Hey listen trollmitter, TFA is factual.


I guess I'll take your word for it, since all I got was...

http://edition.presstv.ir/iphone/

/this is NOT an iphone, jackholes!

xkcd-server-attention-span.jgp
2012-10-21 01:24:06 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.

I think he understands, I just think he doesn't care.

that's also a valid possibility.

I think what bugs me the most is he talks about the problems with outsourcing jobs to China...WHILE outsourcing jobs to China.

...and then gets angry when someone calls him out on that sort of bullshiat...


The worst part is it's not in the past, Bain is about to close down one in Freeport, Illinois and I'm noticing a small amount, but not much, discussion about it, and a complete silence from the Romney camp.

Also, per my list earlier, voter coercion. Several companies are now threatening to lay off people if Obama is reelected. The total amount of BS in this election is staggering.
2012-10-21 01:20:47 PM  
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RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.

I think he understands, I just think he doesn't care.

that's also a valid possibility.

I think what bugs me the most is he talks about the problems with outsourcing jobs to China...WHILE outsourcing jobs to China.


...and then gets angry when someone calls him out on that sort of bullshiat...
2012-10-21 01:15:16 PM  
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Weaver95: RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.

I think he understands, I just think he doesn't care.

that's also a valid possibility.


I think what bugs me the most is he talks about the problems with outsourcing jobs to China...WHILE outsourcing jobs to China.
2012-10-21 01:10:23 PM  
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RedPhoenix122: Weaver95: I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.

I think he understands, I just think he doesn't care.


that's also a valid possibility.
2012-10-21 01:08:21 PM  
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will Americans -- especially African-Americans -- take to the streets

I think I know which Farker wrote that article.
2012-10-21 12:56:14 PM  
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Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.


again - questionable but not illegal. And not evidence of a conspiracy. however...why hide it? you could make the case that Romney simply wanted to avoid controversy...but he certainly didn't seem to care about openly refusing to release his tax returns. so he isn't afraid of controversy. why hide purchasing voting machines then? the only thing I can think of is that Romney doesn't seem to think buying a bunch of voting machines presents any sort of conflict of interest. given what i've seen of the man, I don't think he understands the concept of 'conflict of interest'.
2012-10-21 12:46:27 PM  
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Delay: Weaver95: I think what bothers me most about team Romney is the smug attitude of entitlement. Romney seems to believe that he should be president because he's rich and he wants it.

Weaver, I agree with you. Suppose you learned that in some country, lets pick Kazakhstan, they held their election and one candidate and his company owned the voting machines. What would that tell you about the candidate and the process?


it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.
2012-10-21 11:58:56 AM  
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Delay: No matter what Republicans say, voting is a right, not a crime.


Only if you're not a white male landowner.
 
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