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2012-10-21 05:12:24 PM

Weaver95: while there have been some silly business with the polls....I've been out on the campaign trail in my local area and I can say I haven't seen any evidence of fraud on the part of the GOP. well, at least in my area anyways. In fact I haven't seen the GOP out there at all. plenty of signs but no door to door canvassing and no phone banks.

there was one questionable incident that I can verify I've seen with my own eyes - in the black neighborhoods there have been GOP flyers being posted with incorrect information about Pennsylvania's voter ID law. someone in the GOP (or who's leaning GOP) has been pushing flyers that say the voter ID law is still in effect. this is untrue, since the courts have suspended the law until after the current election is over. so either the GOP is ill informed...or they're playing stupid on purpose. either way it's scummy behavior.

but that's the only thing I can say i've seen done with my own eyes. if there's any other funny bidness going on, I haven't seen any evidence of it.


yeah afaik the dept of state is still running ads notifying the public about the new voter id law. that isn't in force but that doesn't stop them from misinforming people.
 
2012-10-21 05:16:52 PM

DubyaHater: That was a little too much paranoia for me. Two stolen elections, murder, multicultural riots in the streets, black people "not being pussies" when it comes to protesting/rioting (wut?).
All we can do is vote because guess what, if Romney wins, nothing is going to happen. The morning of November 7th, we will all wake up and go about our daily lives. There will be no rioting, no protests. It will be another day.
These paranoid rants are not helping the cause, and giving attention to these ridiculous articles only hurts voter turnout. These articles only give people a feeling of hopelessness.


More legitimate news sources are talking about this story...don't know why this was greenlit.

If the polling in Ohio remains consistent (+2 or +3 for Obama), and Romney somehow wins, then people will start to get pissed. Not riot level pissed, mind you...they still have their iPhones and football and stupid BS to distract them just enough from caring. But it will be another nail in the coffin.
 
2012-10-21 05:42:57 PM
Harper's magazine did a recent cover story on right-wing voter fraud since 2000. It's well-researched, chilling, and not tinfoil-hat nonsense.

The full article is paywalled but an excerpt is here: http://harpers.org/#hbc-90008943
 
2012-10-21 05:46:46 PM
What the 2000 elections taught me was that we never really bothered to count oversea military service members ever. Their votes just ship over and end up in a void. I have also learned that Al Gore could not have been happier about this fact.
 
2012-10-21 06:03:48 PM
FEMA CAMPS AND DEBTORS PRISON ALONG WITH ENDLESS WARS WITH MEXICO AND BEING OWNED BY CHINESE CANADIANS AND GETTING IT UP THE ASS BY ESKIMOS AND HULK HOGAN AND SANTA CLAUSE HOLY HIT THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY THEORY SINCE THE WWF SUED THE WWF AND FORCED THEM TO CHANGE THEIR NAME TO WWE
 
2012-10-21 06:05:20 PM
It's important to keep a proper perspective. The guy who wrote the article is a dyed-in-the-wool 9/11 truther. He actually believes that JOOS DID 9/11.

http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/247897.html

//Notice the TLD?
 
2012-10-21 06:09:20 PM

ceebeecates4: It's important to keep a proper perspective. The guy who wrote the article is a dyed-in-the-wool 9/11 truther. He actually believes that JOOS DID 9/11.

http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/247897.html

//Notice the TLD?


It doesn't matter. This guy says something that the left wants to believe, so they are supporting him. Same goes with Alex Jones and the right. He is a batshiat insane truther, but since he says a lot of things right wingers want to believe, they treat him like he is normal.
 
2012-10-21 06:23:41 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: You know, I'd almost like to see Romney elected just for the entertainment value here on Fark. You people will lose your ever-lovin' minds.


I was in a bar in downtown San Francisco on election night 2004 (it was my pool league night otherwise I wouldn't have been is such a hipster\douchebaggy type place, I mean seriously, beer and wine but no liquor in a bar? But I digress). Watching the mood change in the room from 7 pm to 11 pm was interesting to watch as it unfolded. I swear there were about half a dozen girls in tears as it was called for Bush and some really bummed out looking guys who probably cried when they got home that night.
 
2012-10-21 06:32:04 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Except that it's been overturned for the coming election; even those not showing ID in PA will be allowed to vote.


scroll up some or click on that other link below and then tell me all is well. this is disgusting. and no it's not some over zealous staffer. it's systemic abuse of the system.

Hobodeluxe: yeah afaik the dept of state is still running ads notifying the public about the new voter id law. that isn't in force but that doesn't stop them from misinforming people.

 
2012-10-21 06:34:10 PM

Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.


This. The Romney clan has to know that even the appearance of impropriety is to be avoided at all costs. So why this curious investment? What could possibly be the motivation of the Romneys, knowing it doesn't pass the smell test?
 
2012-10-21 06:36:09 PM

dickfreckle: Delay: Weaver95: it would strike me as questionable...but not conclusive.

Fair enough, but why would Romney do such a questionable thing if it were not necessary. Seems as if he knows not owning the voting machines, which have no paper audit, they're black box machines, would be worse for him than not owning them. Same reasoning with the release of his income taxes. Romney knew showing them would be worse than the implication that he had stuff to hide.

This. The Romney clan has to know that even the appearance of impropriety is to be avoided at all costs. So why this curious investment? What could possibly be the motivation of the Romneys, knowing it doesn't pass the smell test?


They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.
 
2012-10-21 06:38:47 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.


I never thought I would ever find something more full of shiat than a porta-john, but hey, I found it.
 
2012-10-21 06:48:31 PM

cman: A Dark Evil Omen: They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.

I never thought I would ever find something more full of shiat than a porta-john, but hey, I found it.


Let me elaborate

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.
 
2012-10-21 06:50:31 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: "And it gets worse. Karl Rove and the Republican election fraud machine not only stole the 2004 elections, they murdered the computer expert who orchestrated the theft, Mike Connell, shortly before he was scheduled to testify in court against Rove."

The basement in which this was written must be a very, very scary place.


Like "pathetic" scary, or Buffalo Bill scary?
 
2012-10-21 06:50:38 PM

cman: The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


Actually, I was kinda hoping Romney would win.

Doesn't change the fact that the media treats the right wing with kid gloves and you're an idiot or shill if you have convinced yourself otherwise.
 
2012-10-21 06:52:07 PM

cman:

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


except that Romney has been caught telling complete fabrications more than once. And not just 'shading the truth a little'. i'm talking full on complete fantasy - if if was anyone else, you'd recommend they be sent for a psych evaluation...THAT'S the level of delusion we're talking about here. And nobody seems willing to point out to Romney that he's delusional.
 
2012-10-21 06:53:57 PM

Weaver95: cman:

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.

except that Romney has been caught telling complete fabrications more than once. And not just 'shading the truth a little'. i'm talking full on complete fantasy - if if was anyone else, you'd recommend they be sent for a psych evaluation...THAT'S the level of delusion we're talking about here. And nobody seems willing to point out to Romney that he's delusional.


That has nothing to do with anything.

Both Obama and Romney are getting hammered in the press. Dark Omen made the statement that Romney wasnt being attacked in the press. I was schooling him otherwise.
 
2012-10-21 06:56:26 PM

cman: I was schooling him otherwise.


That's a laugh.
 
2012-10-21 06:59:13 PM

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


As I've already said, the GOP has been pushing the voter fraud theory hard so that if their guy loses they can cry foul almost before the last vote is tallied and demand a recount. They've had to back of a little recently now that the vote looks like it could be close, because it could backfire on them: All cases of "voter fraud" have been Republican in nature, and the Democrats are sure to call for a recount in any close swing states if Obama loses, especially since the Republicans have been shrieking about fraud all this time.

If either side wins decisively, there will probably be no calls of voter fraud; but if it comes down to one or two swing states, like it did in 2000, you can brace yourself for another Supreme Court decision. UNLESS the state in question has iron-clad recount laws already in place, something I don't think either party has considered: The reason it went to the Court in 2000 was that Florida had just switched over to new recount laws, and they'd never been tested before the Presidential election. Any state with old, tested laws is not going to have that problem, and a recount is not going to be an issue.
 
2012-10-21 06:59:13 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: cman: The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.

Actually, I was kinda hoping Romney would win.

Doesn't change the fact that the media treats the right wing with kid gloves and you're an idiot or shill if you have convinced yourself otherwise.


No, they dont. You want to be a victim so you see it that way.

The truth is is that the media does not care about left v right. All they care about is showing morons because thats what the American public wants to see. No one gives a shiat about free trade when the media can play a newsclip filled with a bunch of tea party members with racist slogans on them.

There is a man named Drew Curtis. He wrote a book on how the media works. If I were you I would check it out.
 
2012-10-21 07:02:36 PM

cman: cman: A Dark Evil Omen: They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.

I never thought I would ever find something more full of shiat than a porta-john, but hey, I found it.

Let me elaborate

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.


The media (MSM and otherwise) has attacked Obama and Romney plenty, but over stupid stuff, like "binders of women" or "put y'all back in chains." Voter fraud is way to complicated to register with most news organizations, so it won't get any major play no matter who is being accused.
 
2012-10-21 07:04:40 PM

The Green Manalishi: cman: cman: A Dark Evil Omen: They're rich and a significant percentage of the voting public would vote for them if Romney was caught on tape raping kittens, just so long as he had the R after his name. Rich in this country? Neither the law nor rules of polite society apply to you. Politically connected on the right? The media will never dare look askance at you. The Romneys are both.

I never thought I would ever find something more full of shiat than a porta-john, but hey, I found it.

Let me elaborate

Obama supporters feel that Obama is getting attacked all the time in the press while Romney gets a free ride. Romney supporters feel that Romney is getting attacked all the time in the press while Obama gets a free ride. The truth of the matter is that both are being attacked in the press. You farkers just want to see yourself as a victim so you convince yourself otherwise.

The media (MSM and otherwise) has attacked Obama and Romney plenty, but over stupid stuff, like "binders of women" or "put y'all back in chains." Voter fraud is way to complicated to register with most news organizations, so it won't get any major play no matter who is being accused.


Exactly my point.

As I said right about your post, The truth is is that the media does not care about left v right. All they care about is showing morons because thats what the American public wants to see. No one gives a shiat about free trade when the media can play a newsclip filled with a bunch of tea party members with racist slogans on them.

There is a man named Drew Curtis. He wrote a book on how the media works. If I were you I would check it out.
 
2012-10-21 07:14:51 PM

cman: Exactly my point.

As I said right about your post, The truth is is that the media does not care about left v right. All they care about is showing morons because thats what the American public wants to see. No one gives a shiat about free trade when the media can play a newsclip filled with a bunch of tea party members with racist slogans on them.

There is a man named Drew Curtis. He wrote a book on how the media works. If I were you I would check it out.


So you are suggesting that News Corp, with their acknowledged public bias, doesn't exist? You are asking me to believe that a mass media that universally supported the Bush administration call to war and deliberately ignored the mass dissent is somehow even-handed or not pushing an agenda? You are suggesting that the mass media in this country, universally corporate-owned and funded, is not going to support a right-wing corporatist message? That's like suggesting a shark should pass up a meal out of the goodness of its heart!

Either you are a pathetically credulous cretin, or you think everyone else is. Or, most likely, both.
 
2012-10-21 07:15:05 PM
Hold it. Wait a second. When did Willard flood the streets with cocaine?

I know about the vulture fund stuff and the being a total upper class twit stuff, but I thought it was the CIA that flooded the streets with crack, and not cocaine, which is a rich man's drug.

They're mixing all the conspiracy theories together promiscuously again, aren't they?

They always do that.

You start out with a well documented and sensible conspiracy (such as Republican ownership, control and abuse of voting machines) and then they go and muddle it all up.

Let's keep it together people. You have to stick to the real conspiracies, the facts, and plausibility or else everything washes out like when you combine all the colours in your paint box in hopes of getting something really cool and all you get is a brownish muck-gray.

One, you should get rid of voting machines altogether and use a simple paper ballot which you mark with a pencil, and two, the Romneys are upper class shiats and should never be allowed near power in a democracy.

That's all you need to know.

Oh, and the Mormon religion is totally made-up crap, not unlike so many other religions, if not all of them. You might as well elect a GD scientologist or a right wing Protestant for all the good that it'll get you.
 
2012-10-21 07:19:05 PM
GOP electoral fraud and voter suppression

"How to Rig an Election: The G.O.P. aims to paint the country red"
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2012/10/hbc-90008943

GOP admits it wants to making it more difficult to vote
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/you-gotta-fight-for-yo u r-right-to-vote
http://www.freep.com/article/20120807/COL33/120807094/Stephen-Henders o n-A-lousy-feeling-on-Election-Day-thanks-to-Secretary-of-State-Ruth-Jo hnson

4 GOP staffers indicted in "blatant and disgraceful" election fraud
http://politic365.com/2012/08/09/4-republican-staffers-indicted-for-b l atant-and-disgraceful-voter-fraud-in-michigan/

Proven GOP voter fraud. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convic ted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=1

More GOP fraud. This time in Massachusetts
http://www.wgbhnews.org/post/galvin-calls-voter-fraud-allegations-pre t ty-extreme

GOP voter fraud in Texas
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Fort-Bend-candidate-v o ted-twice-in-same-3937458.php

More suspicious voter forms found in Florida
After reports of irregularities, state GOP fires company hired to register people
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49227596/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/# . UGjV_hi7ZGY

Columbus Ohio GOP Chair Opposes More Early Voting, Saying It Helps African-Americans
"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. "Let's be fair and reasonable."
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-p o ll-hours-isnt-just-political.html
 
2012-10-21 07:22:22 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: cman: Exactly my point.

As I said right about your post, The truth is is that the media does not care about left v right. All they care about is showing morons because thats what the American public wants to see. No one gives a shiat about free trade when the media can play a newsclip filled with a bunch of tea party members with racist slogans on them.

There is a man named Drew Curtis. He wrote a book on how the media works. If I were you I would check it out.

So you are suggesting that News Corp, with their acknowledged public bias, doesn't exist? You are asking me to believe that a mass media that universally supported the Bush administration call to war and deliberately ignored the mass dissent is somehow even-handed or not pushing an agenda? You are suggesting that the mass media in this country, universally corporate-owned and funded, is not going to support a right-wing corporatist message? That's like suggesting a shark should pass up a meal out of the goodness of its heart!

Either you are a pathetically credulous cretin, or you think everyone else is. Or, most likely, both.


When it comes down to it, all Rupert Murdock wants is money. He doesn't care how he gets it. Hell, look at Fox News versus the Fox Network. One is a batshiat insane network filled with idiotic shows that add no value and the other is a tv network. They are WORLDS apart. Fox Network has programming that is the exact opposite of what Fox News shows. It's about the green, and appealing to morons on the right brings it in for him on Fox News, while appealing to the general public brings it in for him in the Fox Network.
 
2012-10-21 07:31:04 PM
All the GOP is saying is that we need a verifiable form of voter ID, such as a photo ID, in the dozen counties that will decide the election in a dozen swing states. Districts that are safely GOP, or guaranteed Democrat? It's been shown that voter fraud doesn't happen there.

So we just need to make sure that ACORN doesn't swing a dozen counties in a dozen swing states.

Which is totally common sense and patriotic.
 
2012-10-21 07:48:51 PM

Empty Matchbook: Remember, kids: Birtherism, a theory based on pieces of evidence such as the President won while black, while having a non-protestant sounding name, and while being raised by a foreign-born parent but no ACTUAL evidence is something STILL worth investigating but Republican election fraud, which has evidence such as actual messages with misleading dates, gerrymandering districts and now voting machines paid for by the retroactively-retired CEO of the company is just idiotic libs making idiotic lib noises.


This
 
2012-10-21 07:52:16 PM
Those who know history are doomed to helplessly watch it repeat itself.
 
2012-10-21 08:02:48 PM

AbbeySomeone: Hey listen trollmitter, TFA is factual.


lolwut?

interlockroc.org 

Oh the other side of this conspiracy is that Obama already knows he lost and is setting up his base for riots. This theft will give him the reason to populate the FEMA camps he's been setting up for the last four years every hurricane season with to prevent the "stolen" election.

/Or maybe if you believe either of these "conspiracies" you're a nutter. Forget the run on guns, this about the run on Reynolds wrap. Get double thickness in case they use higher frequencies.
 
2012-10-21 08:05:00 PM
TomD9938 2012-10-21 02:19:58 PM

FTA : Former President Jimmy Carter says that American elections, unlike elections in banana republics, are so hopelessly corrupt that they are not even worth monitoring

Well, it's certainly true that Carter won by fraud, so the writer may have a point.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-21 08:06:27 PM

Dinki: While I'm a big skeptic of the whole "hacked voting machine" conspiracy theory, there is little doubt that the GOP has taken the position that since they can't win by simply counting votes, that voter suppression is the way to go.


If Dems refrain from petitioning the courts to keep stronghold polling places open longer in close districts, I'll pay attention to "voter suppression" nonsense.
 
2012-10-21 08:06:31 PM

Kittypie070: TomD9938 2012-10-21 02:19:58 PM

FTA : Former President Jimmy Carter says that American elections, unlike elections in banana republics, are so hopelessly corrupt that they are not even worth monitoring

Well, it's certainly true that Carter won by fraud, so the writer may have a point.

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I dunno what that posters intentions were, but I am assuming that he was being sarcastic.
 
2012-10-21 08:09:40 PM
www.bloggernews.net

He's destroyed countries with far less BS
 
2012-10-21 08:12:07 PM

jjorsett: This is the forth article I've seen recently predicting social unrest if Romney wins. The lefties are whipping themselves into a pre-loss frenzy and telling their minions that they're justified in rioting if they don't get what they want.

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Since most people can see that this article was written by a crazy, could you show me a link to a few of the other articles that you've been hearing so much about ? I haven't seen any and I'm looking to join up with a good riot crew if Romney wins. But like I say, I haven't seen any of those types of credible articles...
 
2012-10-21 08:18:14 PM
I see the contemptible Republican spastics have finished masturbating and are now poking away at their crusty keyboards. Yay.
 
2012-10-21 08:36:20 PM

cman: Kittypie070: TomD9938 2012-10-21 02:19:58 PM

FTA : Former President Jimmy Carter says that American elections, unlike elections in banana republics, are so hopelessly corrupt that they are not even worth monitoring

Well, it's certainly true that Carter won by fraud, so the writer may have a point.

[i.imgur.com image 560x468]

I dunno what that posters intentions were, but I am assuming that he was being sarcastic.


The idea was that all American elections are fraudulent (per Jimmy Carter according to some truther/Iran Guy) and Carter won an American election. So, by definition, his election was fraudulent/corrupt.

It was poorly crafted and should have been killed on the table (in preview), I admit.
 
2012-10-21 08:39:15 PM
jjorsett 2012-10-21 03:44:06 PM

This is the forth article I've seen recently predicting social unrest if Romney wins. The lefties are whipping themselves into a pre-loss frenzy and telling their minions that they're justified in rioting if they don't get what they want.

Stop lying, moran.

In the Virginia Republican Committee newsletter, there is nothing to imply that protecting Americans from the "prey of the rich on the poor" is the reason for calling for armed rebellion. According to the newsletter, President Obama, is a "political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized," and that the only option is "armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November:" If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a "political socialist ideologue," the newsletter claims President Obama "shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might," and that under Obama, "the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution."

Republicans calling for armed insurrection against the government is nothing new, and few are apt to forget congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN) saying "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back," and went on to specifically cite Jefferson's quote from 1787. Bachmann continued that, "we the people are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country," and encouraged Americans "to do everything we can to thwart the Democrats at every turn," and apparently that included armed rebellion.
 
2012-10-21 08:46:34 PM
Maybe doesn't mean anything but our predominantly "vote democrat" neighborhood has a heck of a lot more "vote republican" signs out in the front yards than the last go round. 200k+ homes sandwiched in between 300k to 900k+ home neighborhoods.
I'm guessing moderates had a change of heart?
 
2012-10-21 08:54:15 PM

Weaver95: while there have been some silly business with the polls....I've been out on the campaign trail in my local area and I can say I haven't seen any evidence of fraud on the part of the GOP. well, at least in my area anyways. In fact I haven't seen the GOP out there at all. plenty of signs but no door to door canvassing and no phone banks.

there was one questionable incident that I can verify I've seen with my own eyes - in the black neighborhoods there have been GOP flyers being posted with incorrect information about Pennsylvania's voter ID law. someone in the GOP (or who's leaning GOP) has been pushing flyers that say the voter ID law is still in effect. this is untrue, since the courts have suspended the law until after the current election is over. so either the GOP is ill informed...or they're playing stupid on purpose. either way it's scummy behavior.

but that's the only thing I can say i've seen done with my own eyes. if there's any other funny bidness going on, I haven't seen any evidence of it.


Was over turned Oct2- Check the publication date of the distributed material and when it was distributed as it may be dated.
 
2012-10-21 09:11:33 PM
If Obama loses next month, it's just a rope-a-dope with an eye for the long game.
 
2012-10-21 09:13:48 PM

Chimperror2: If Dems refrain from petitioning the courts to keep stronghold polling places open longer in close districts, I'll pay attention to "voter suppression" nonsense.


What would be wrong with allowing more people to vote?
 
2012-10-21 09:15:50 PM
Wow, lots of headers without posts in here.
 
2012-10-21 09:20:16 PM

Curious: Dwight_Yeast: Except that it's been overturned for the coming election; even those not showing ID in PA will be allowed to vote.

scroll up some or click on that other link below and then tell me all is well. this is disgusting. and no it's not some over zealous staffer. it's systemic abuse of the system.


Let me put it like this: I'm happy that no one will be unfairly and improperly turned away from the polls on election day; everyone who's registered to vote will be able to vote, which means confusion is the only weapon they have left.

Here's how bad it is: the current AG stipulated in the case against this that he had no proof that voter fraud was a problem and that he had no evidence of any voter fraud ever happened in the state, yet he still said he fully supported the law. The current gov. (former state AG) has sworn up and down that the law is perfectly legal and necessary, though he's never offered a reason why we need it.

If Corbett (current PA gov) or the AG get re-elected in three years, I will be deeply shocked.
 
2012-10-21 09:22:47 PM

Kittypie070: jjorsett 2012-10-21 03:44:06 PM

This is the forth article I've seen recently predicting social unrest if Romney wins. The lefties are whipping themselves into a pre-loss frenzy and telling their minions that they're justified in rioting if they don't get what they want.

Stop lying, moran.

In the Virginia Republican Committee newsletter, there is nothing to imply that protecting Americans from the "prey of the rich on the poor" is the reason for calling for armed rebellion. According to the newsletter, President Obama, is a "political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized," and that the only option is "armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November:" If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a "political socialist ideologue," the newsletter claims President Obama "shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might," and that under Obama, "the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution."

Republicans calling for armed insurrection against the government is nothing new, and few are apt to forget congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN) saying "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back," and went on to specifically cite Jefferson's quote from 1787. Bachmann continued that, "we the people are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country," and encouraged Americans "to do everything we can to thwart the Democrats at every turn," and apparently that included armed rebellion.


what does GOP stupid have to do with this author's stupid?
 
2012-10-21 09:25:25 PM

clowncar on fire: Maybe doesn't mean anything but our predominantly "vote democrat" neighborhood has a heck of a lot more "vote republican" signs out in the front yards than the last go round. 200k+ homes sandwiched in between 300k to 900k+ home neighborhoods.
I'm guessing moderates had a change of heart?


"Anecdote" is not the plural of "data".

From what I've seen, no one, even in the diehard GOP strongholds of the NE, has Romney signs out this year. I didn't see any Romney signs until a month ago, and the first one took me by surprise, as I couldn't figure out why it seemed strange, until I realized it was the first I'd seen.

Contrast that to four years ago when there were plenty of McCain signs to be seen, especially in (heavily Democratic) South Philly. My favorite were "Italian-Americans for McCain" which translates to "We're not voting for the eggplant."
 
2012-10-21 09:45:34 PM

Dwight_Yeast: clowncar on fire: Maybe doesn't mean anything but our predominantly "vote democrat" neighborhood has a heck of a lot more "vote republican" signs out in the front yards than the last go round. 200k+ homes sandwiched in between 300k to 900k+ home neighborhoods.
I'm guessing moderates had a change of heart?

"Anecdote" is not the plural of "data".

From what I've seen, no one, even in the diehard GOP strongholds of the NE, has Romney signs out this year. I didn't see any Romney signs until a month ago, and the first one took me by surprise, as I couldn't figure out why it seemed strange, until I realized it was the first I'd seen.

Contrast that to four years ago when there were plenty of McCain signs to be seen, especially in (heavily Democratic) South Philly. My favorite were "Italian-Americans for McCain" which translates to "We're not voting for the eggplant."


I live in heavily Republican Orange County (CA), and oddly, the only election signs I've seen have gone up in the last week; and they have ALL, without exception, been local politicians. I've not seen one endorsing either Obama OR Romney.

Maybe just an attempt to keep the peace locally.
 
2012-10-21 09:48:32 PM

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


This issue is so farking silly.

From what I've read, tagg's firm has co-invested with the PE firm that bought intercivic years ago, on completely separate deals.

Only a tinfoil hatted lunatic would be concerned about this. I'm embarrassed for you and any others who are making hay here.
 
2012-10-21 09:51:53 PM

Mugato: Can you republicans put down the farking partisan bullshiat for two seconds and honestly say that there's nothing shady about Romney's son buying out voting machines in a swing state? If you saw that in a comedy movie you would yell bullshiat.


the people who yell at movies aren't in a strongly Republican demographic
 
2012-10-21 09:57:17 PM
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