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(SFGate)   Good: Winning a Freedom of Information Act judgment. Better: Against the FBI. Best: For $470,000   (sfgate.com) divider line 5
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2012-10-21 11:19:07 AM  
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dwg: Of tax payers money. You're welcome!


The book he wrote is probably worth it to the tax payers.

Hoover's obsession with the university intensified in 1959, when a test for incoming freshmen included the question "What are the dangers to democracy of a national police organization, like the FBI, which operates secretly and is unresponsive to criticism?" What followed was one of those laugh-to-keep-from-crying moments that students of FBI history know too well: The bureau acted like a fascist organization by targeting anyone accusing it of acting like a fascist organization, all in order to publicly prove it was nothing like a fascist organization....

That's simply the public record. And now we have the private record. In 1966, Rosenfeld shows, Hoover secretly helped get Reagan elected governor, then in 1967 conspired with him to get Kerr fired. Around the same time, the FBI helped Reagan cover up lies on a report in which he omitted his past membership to organizations officially deemed subversive by the attorney general-and Reagan signed a form acknowledging that such false statements were punishable as a felony.


That and a lot of crushing of free speech activities and government surveillance of students.

And considering the winnings reflect 8 minutes of war in Afghanistan, this is really not a lot of money.
2012-10-21 10:00:03 AM  
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SDRR: Justice Department attorneys, who represented the FBI, argued that the agency would have released the documents even if Rosenfeld hadn't filed suit. They said "bureaucratic difficulty, not recalcitrant behavior" slowed the releases.

Oh, well nevermind then!

WTF


Actually they are probably right. In many cases, the rules restricting the release of the information require line-by-line reviews and then a full-blown public affairs review as well. Budgets for these offices have shrunk dramatically over the last decade, so in many cases you have a team of two or three people doing all of the review and public affairs work for an entire agency. Even small agencies can rack up millions of pages of information, so we're not talking nickels and dimes here. Tack onto this fact that there is no centralized control of information within the government and you have not merely a huge mess but a huge nightmare as well. shiat just sits around rotting on the shelves because there's no staff to do it and little money to pay the staff. And that's not exactly something you can outsource.
2012-10-21 09:36:05 AM  
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Jenna Tellya: BarkingUnicorn: "$470,459 in attorneys' fees "

"The money will go to the nonprofit First Amendment Project of Oakland, which represented Rosenfeld pro bono, and to the San Francisco law firm of Bryan Cave."

Didn't know you could win attorney's fees for pro bono work. My mind is blown, but congratulations to them!


Because giving something away automatically makes it not cost you anything. Did you know that people who work for non-profit organizations are paid for their work? The nerve of those people to demand such a thing! Do you want to sit together on the short bus to school on Monday?
2012-10-21 09:33:34 AM  
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I would call this a win, but I just realized that if the FBI coughs up the cash, it will be with our tax dollars. So was society on the winning or losing end of this judgement?
2012-10-21 08:39:33 AM  
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Unless this is linked to pay cuts or other disciplinary action, it will have no deterrent effect.
 
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