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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Newsflash for that one person in the world who didn't already know it: Paranormal Activity 4 is a bad movie   (hollywoodreporter.com ) divider line
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2012-10-21 07:04:49 AM  
I don't care for horror films, but I don't remember anyone talking about the others.
 
2012-10-21 07:13:55 AM  

Alphax: I don't care for horror films, but I don't remember anyone talking about the others.


The first one was fairly original and cleverly done, everything else, bleh.
 
2012-10-21 07:24:52 AM  
I would imagine not having seen the first three, I would be totally lost and unable to really get into the story.
 
2012-10-21 07:36:01 AM  
These "found footage" movies aren't going anywhere. They cost like a couple mill so there's no risk and they make a shiatton profit. They're like the reality TV of movies. And just as real.
 
2012-10-21 07:45:40 AM  
I refer to them as "Para-boring Activity" movies. By the time the creepiness starts happening, you're already asleep.
 
2012-10-21 08:05:35 AM  

GonzoNihilist: I would imagine not having seen the first three, I would be totally lost and unable to really get into the story.


There's a story?

I like seeing these movies when they're out on DVD with friends. They make for fairly easy MST3Ks, and can be decently amusing. I never saw the second one, and the first one had two completely different endings (one very dumb and one even dumber).
 
2012-10-21 08:21:43 AM  

Flappyhead: Alphax: I don't care for horror films, but I don't remember anyone talking about the others.

The first one was fairly original and cleverly done, everything else, bleh.


You're awfully forgiving about the first one.
 
2012-10-21 08:24:54 AM  

Mugato: These "found footage" movies aren't going anywhere. They cost like a couple mill so there's no risk and they make a shiatton profit. They're like the reality TV of movies. And just as real.


This. Anything interesting about this genre was born and died with the Blaire With Project.
It's a one-shot concept.
 
2012-10-21 08:41:09 AM  
Is there even a Horror genre any more?
It should be renamed Gore And Loud Noises.
 
2012-10-21 08:43:16 AM  

Flappyhead: Alphax: I don't care for horror films, but I don't remember anyone talking about the others.

The first one was fairly original and cleverly done, everything else, bleh.


You mean something that was successful the first time and then Hollywood beat it until there wasn't even the dust of the bones left? No way!
 
2012-10-21 09:03:13 AM  
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2012-10-21 09:13:08 AM  
Ok, I'll say it. The first one freaked me out. That demonic/possession stuff always has. The second was pretty "meh" and the third was downright lame. "Grandma's in a satanic cult! zOMFG! The 70's called and they want their plot device back!"
I have no doubt the 4th will continue the downward spiral...but I'll probably see it anyways.
I think we're too jaded for horror anymore. I think the best a movie can do is creepy/disturbing.

/Thought Sinister sucked, BTW
 
2012-10-21 09:31:24 AM  
I saw #4 last night, and I thought it had a decent amount of spookiness in it.
 
2012-10-21 09:54:27 AM  
The story got too hokey through the first three movies. That being said I will still probably watch 4 only because I choked down the others.
 
2012-10-21 09:57:29 AM  
so "bad" = "good"?

/old person here
 
2012-10-21 10:02:00 AM  
I think these movies are secretly furniture commercials, because that's all you look at for 97 minutes. Still shots of furniture.

Raymour and Flannigan presents: Paranormal Activity 5
 
2012-10-21 10:10:44 AM  

CPennypacker: I think these movies are secretly furniture commercials, because that's all you look at for 97 minutes. Still shots of furniture.

Raymour and Flannigan presents: Paranormal Activity 5


"Find the well... it's the passage... to IKEA! COVER IT!"
 
2012-10-21 10:16:20 AM  

titwrench: The story got too hokey through the first three movies. That being said I will still probably watch 4 only because I choked down the others.


That sounds like depressing thing to realize about yourself.
 
2012-10-21 10:21:03 AM  
Whenever I see the commercials for movies like this, I think: Do you have to drop a bowling ball on your bare foot to determine if it will hurt or not hurt?

/Wife and daughter went to the matinee show to see that POS movie.
//Wish there was a way to get the $12 back.
 
2012-10-21 10:23:40 AM  
After the third one I'm done with the series because it was a bad movie. Besides I'm tired of the trailers showing good scenes that aren't even in the movie.

Want to see a scary movie this weekend? Go see "The Master".
 
2012-10-21 10:25:32 AM  

clancifer: I saw #4 last night, and I thought it had a decent amount of spookiness in it.


This is the why they're make part 5.

/stop paying to see crappy movies!
 
2012-10-21 10:31:11 AM  
Some friends called me over a while back to see "this amazingly scary movie". It was the first of the bunch and I had to restrain laughter all the way through. It was easily one of the worst things I have ever seen... and I saw Nathan Lane in "The Producers"! The characters were completely unlikable and poorly acted. There was one half-decent effect where the wife gets dragged from the room by a ghost and I thought it was good for the budget they worked with.

Movie #1 was pure shiat.
 
2012-10-21 10:48:55 AM  
I'd rather see these bad attempts at suspense than the torture-porn genre. What you don't see is always more interesting than what they put right in front of your face.

/I still like following the 'SlenderMan' mythos. Even though you can see how the community around has evolved the character, it's still creepy as hell.
 
2012-10-21 10:55:50 AM  

parkerlewis: I refer to them as "Para-boring Activity"


Well said, the first was lame, by the time I got talked into going to the 2nd one, I decided I didn't want to see any others.
 
2012-10-21 10:55:56 AM  
Is she in this one too? Yes? Then I will be seeing it.

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2012-10-21 10:58:05 AM  
#1 was creepy when I watched it at 3 in the morning

#2/3/4 are just farking stupid
 
2012-10-21 11:14:39 AM  
I really liked the first one, though it probably had more to do with the moviegoing experience than the actual quality of the movie (saw it with a group of friends late at night near Halloween in a crowded theatre, it was a lot of fun). But the second and third ones didn't really appeal that much to me, and the previews for the 4th look kinda meh.
 
2012-10-21 11:16:06 AM  
Spoiler Alert: This movie sucked the big one.

The ending was probably the worst part of the movie. I think the best part of the movie was when someone in the theater I was sitting in yelled out "bullshiat!" and left.
 
2012-10-21 12:00:29 PM  

Con Fabulous: titwrench: The story got too hokey through the first three movies. That being said I will still probably watch 4 only because I choked down the others.

That sounds like depressing thing to realize about yourself.


No, not really.
 
2012-10-21 12:13:45 PM  
Wanna know how I could spot a bad movie? "4"

Aye, ye been 4-warned.
 
2012-10-21 12:28:31 PM  
I liked the first two, 3 was eh, and 4...just let this crap end!
 
2012-10-21 12:57:18 PM  

jso2897: This. Anything interesting about this genre was born and died with the Blaire With Project.
It's a one-shot concept.


Not necessarily
 
2012-10-21 01:04:31 PM  
I love Paranormal Activity. The reason I love it is because I had a very unique theater experience. The way the movie moves slow at first, and then builds and quickens. The theater patrons around me were all giggles and guffaws at first, the silly little things, loud bangs and doors moving... But slowly the movie ramped up, and the giggles died down. Replaced with murmurs and even a few audible gasps. This all lead up to the films big set piece, Katie being dragged down the hallway, which had the entire audience flipping out.

I loved it.

I also liked the second one. The subtly had been knocked back a notch, but it became slightly more visceral to compensate. The switch from hand held cameras to a security feed was a nice change of formula to give us an interesting twist on the premise, not to mention less floor gazing and shaky cam that plagues found footage movies... And hey, they were building a back story for what was obviously becoming a franchise, I'm down.

Then the third movie came. I... I want to like it, I really do. There's a lot to enjoy, I like the spinning camera they added to it, the characters were good, and they got some kids that didn't completely suck at acting. But they just didn't DO anything. There was no building to the tension, the scares were becoming more blatant and jumpy, they did barely ANYTHING with the spinning camera, and then the ending.

Dear god the ending,

The ending was terrible, not just because it completely breaks the continuity of the previous films, which it does in every conceivable way, but was just shiat. Really? Cloak wearing witches coven? We're going there? I thought this film was going to explain the house fire that both Kristi and Katie talk about... But not even a mention. Some BS about brainwashing them to forget, marriage to the demon... Just... terrible.

And now the fourth. I want to see it, but I don't know. Kinect? That's our new twist on the premise? Guess Microsoft has the patent on farking ghost detection hardware now.

I had hoped to myself that this film would be the Saw killer... But it seems to just be another saw, A fantastic first film with a strong sequel, followed by a third that starts a downward spiral into just... crap.
 
2012-10-21 01:17:00 PM  
We'll still shell out millions for this dreck, and yet no one watches American Horror Story.
 
2012-10-21 01:45:54 PM  

I Like Bread: Is there even a Horror genre any more?
It should be renamed Gore And Loud Noises.


And how is it different from anything in the past 30 years?

Maybe Saw 1.

Slow To Return: We'll still shell out millions for this dreck, and yet no one watches American Horror Story.


Because there's shiat.

And then there's shiat you don't even tell people you watch.
 
2012-10-21 01:58:26 PM  

Flappyhead: Alphax: I don't care for horror films, but I don't remember anyone talking about the others.

The first one was fairly original and cleverly done, everything else, bleh.


That pretty much describes the "Saw" series. The first was clever, and then it caught a major case of "Sequelitis".
 
2012-10-21 01:58:56 PM  

Snapper Carr: jso2897: This. Anything interesting about this genre was born and died with the Blaire With Project.
It's a one-shot concept.

Not necessarily


That really goes a bit outside the "found footage" genre. A "pure" found footage film is told entirely in found footage, presented in what appears as an unedited or minimally edited format.
I'm just saying that it's a narrow concept, and one difficult to adapt in an original manner - especially if you are just cranking out vehicles to make money off a fad.
The first (that I know of), and probably best film of the genre isn't a horror film - it's a French gangster movie called "Man Bites Dog". I'm pretty sure the makers of "Blaire Witch" must have seen it before they made their film.
 
2012-10-21 02:17:43 PM  

wildcardjack: Wanna know how I could spot a bad movie? "4"


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"Woul' ye mind repeating that, laddie?"
 
2012-10-21 02:34:01 PM  

Will-Mun: I love Paranormal Activity. The reason I love it is because I had a very unique theater experience. The way the movie moves slow at first, and then builds and quickens. The theater patrons around me were all giggles and guffaws at first, the silly little things, loud bangs and doors moving... But slowly the movie ramped up, and the giggles died down. Replaced with murmurs and even a few audible gasps. This all lead up to the films big set piece, Katie being dragged down the hallway, which had the entire audience flipping out.


Actually, I've always argued that you can tell a good, intense horror film by the number of people who laugh during the frightening parts in the first half of the film. The laughter is incredibly uncomfortable. By the time the film kicks into gear, the theatre is dead silent.

/The Ring and The Grudge
 
2012-10-21 02:36:26 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: wildcardjack: Wanna know how I could spot a bad movie? "4"

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"Woul' ye mind repeating that, laddie?"


I'll see your IV and raise you this

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You'll note that a bunch of sequeling franchises avoid numbers or at least the number 4. Children of the Corn 4 got a title change before hitting theaters. Hellraiser get's a new title every few years since they did number three. I can't think of any James Bond movies with a number in their title.
 
2012-10-21 02:41:21 PM  
I actually really liked the first three. My wife and I went and saw this one on Friday night. We weren't very impressed to way the least. Like a few other before have said, it's usually really fun to go see it in a crowded theater but man, this one was boring almost the entire time.
 
2012-10-21 02:42:53 PM  

jso2897: That really goes a bit outside the "found footage" genre. A "pure" found footage film is told entirely in found footage, presented in what appears as an unedited or minimally edited format.


IIRC correctly there are a few minimal scenes of security camera footage and maybe some news footage cutaways during the climax so technically you're correct but I think most critics would put it squarely within the found footage genre.

jso2897: The first (that I know of), and probably best film of the genre isn't a horror film - it's a French gangster movie called "Man Bites Dog"


Very good movie although Cannibal Holocaust(generally considered the foundation of the genre) predates it by 12 years
 
2012-10-21 03:36:01 PM  
Katie got some big ass titttays
 
2012-10-21 04:11:49 PM  
if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.
 
2012-10-21 04:29:14 PM  

JudgeSmails: if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.


I disagree. The 2nd one is solid and adds to the story. 3rd, meh.

Now, if you liked "Quarantine", run far away from its sequel. Far away!

I saw "V/H/S" last week. (WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) Bottom line is that it's essentially a collection of found footage shorts from various directors held loosely together by another short.(/WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) As a coherent film, it's a failure, but taken as the collection it is, it's fun. It made me realize that HBO or Showtime should actually have a found footage shorts series similar to Masters of Horror. I think it could be great fun as the short format works very well for this style as opposed to the full length of a PA.
 
2012-10-21 04:56:49 PM  

vrax: JudgeSmails: if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.

I disagree. The 2nd one is solid and adds to the story. 3rd, meh.

Now, if you liked "Quarantine", run far away from its sequel. Far away!

I saw "V/H/S" last week. (WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) Bottom line is that it's essentially a collection of found footage shorts from various directors held loosely together by another short.(/WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) As a coherent film, it's a failure, but taken as the collection it is, it's fun. It made me realize that HBO or Showtime should actually have a found footage shorts series similar to Masters of Horror. I think it could be great fun as the short format works very well for this style as opposed to the full length of a PA.


I saw quarantine and the sequel and agree. What I hated about rec 2 was it went from infection to possession. it had me right up until I saw hs collar and I just sighed. I haven't seen v/h/s yet but did catch Atrocious on Netflix which used video tape in certain parts. it's ok but within 10 minutes you will be able to call it.
 
2012-10-21 05:05:43 PM  

JudgeSmails: vrax: JudgeSmails: if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.

I disagree. The 2nd one is solid and adds to the story. 3rd, meh.

Now, if you liked "Quarantine", run far away from its sequel. Far away!

I saw "V/H/S" last week. (WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) Bottom line is that it's essentially a collection of found footage shorts from various directors held loosely together by another short.(/WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) As a coherent film, it's a failure, but taken as the collection it is, it's fun. It made me realize that HBO or Showtime should actually have a found footage shorts series similar to Masters of Horror. I think it could be great fun as the short format works very well for this style as opposed to the full length of a PA.

I saw quarantine and the sequel and agree. What I hated about rec 2 was it went from infection to possession. it had me right up until I saw hs collar and I just sighed. I haven't seen v/h/s yet but did catch Atrocious on Netflix which used video tape in certain parts. it's ok but within 10 minutes you will be able to call it.


Well, I popped "Atrocious" in my queue anyway. Good for a late night. If you haven't already seen it, "Apartment 143" on Netflix is worth a watch. It's pretty much PA with more of the activity part. V/H/S definitely has some strong bits. The last short of the film is quite fun.
 
2012-10-21 05:09:44 PM  

vrax: JudgeSmails: vrax: JudgeSmails: if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.

I disagree. The 2nd one is solid and adds to the story. 3rd, meh.

Now, if you liked "Quarantine", run far away from its sequel. Far away!

I saw "V/H/S" last week. (WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) Bottom line is that it's essentially a collection of found footage shorts from various directors held loosely together by another short.(/WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) As a coherent film, it's a failure, but taken as the collection it is, it's fun. It made me realize that HBO or Showtime should actually have a found footage shorts series similar to Masters of Horror. I think it could be great fun as the short format works very well for this style as opposed to the full length of a PA.

I saw quarantine and the sequel and agree. What I hated about rec 2 was it went from infection to possession. it had me right up until I saw hs collar and I just sighed. I haven't seen v/h/s yet but did catch Atrocious on Netflix which used video tape in certain parts. it's ok but within 10 minutes you will be able to call it.

Well, I popped "Atrocious" in my queue anyway. Good for a late night. If you haven't already seen it, "Apartment 143" on Netflix is worth a watch. It's pretty much PA with more of the activity part. V/H/S definitely has some strong bits. The last short of the film is quite fun.


I just added that one to my queue. if you haven't seen The Host, that's just a fun one. Also Dumplings, you may have seen that in the Asian fright fest that used to be and maybe still happens on Sundance.
 
2012-10-21 05:25:29 PM  

JudgeSmails: vrax: JudgeSmails: vrax: JudgeSmails: if you like the movie [Rec] you want to consider skipping the 2nd and the 3rd one.

I disagree. The 2nd one is solid and adds to the story. 3rd, meh.

Now, if you liked "Quarantine", run far away from its sequel. Far away!

I saw "V/H/S" last week. (WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) Bottom line is that it's essentially a collection of found footage shorts from various directors held loosely together by another short.(/WEAKEST SPOILER EVER) As a coherent film, it's a failure, but taken as the collection it is, it's fun. It made me realize that HBO or Showtime should actually have a found footage shorts series similar to Masters of Horror. I think it could be great fun as the short format works very well for this style as opposed to the full length of a PA.

I saw quarantine and the sequel and agree. What I hated about rec 2 was it went from infection to possession. it had me right up until I saw hs collar and I just sighed. I haven't seen v/h/s yet but did catch Atrocious on Netflix which used video tape in certain parts. it's ok but within 10 minutes you will be able to call it.

Well, I popped "Atrocious" in my queue anyway. Good for a late night. If you haven't already seen it, "Apartment 143" on Netflix is worth a watch. It's pretty much PA with more of the activity part. V/H/S definitely has some strong bits. The last short of the film is quite fun.

I just added that one to my queue. if you haven't seen The Host, that's just a fun one. Also Dumplings, you may have seen that in the Asian fright fest that used to be and maybe still happens on Sundance.


I've seen "The Host" and it is a good one. "Dumplings" has been in my queue for a while and I've been meaning to watch since it first came out. My queue is stupid long. Found footage wise I really liked "Troll Hunter". Not as horrific as it is just interesting and fun. "Dream Home" on instant is still probably one of my somewhat recent favorites.
 
2012-10-21 05:29:18 PM  
I saw a found footage movie called "Evidence" the other day and liked it. The first half was pretty creepy and unsettling and the end was just bizarre and crazy and out of left field. Like they took the first part of one movie and added the end from a "Doom" sequel. I guess that it was really unpredictable appealed to me.
 
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