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2012-10-20 03:25:00 PM  
"The driver didn't violate Metro policy - she felt she had to advocate for her passengers by politely and apologetically asking the woman to exit the bus."

Good work, Metro.
 
2012-10-20 04:14:32 PM  
"He had just pooped in his diaper as soon as I got on [the bus]," she told ABC News.

"Right after that, the bus driver told me to get off the bus," Hakimian said. "I said, 'why is that?' She said, 'your baby ... smells really bad. And it's not fair that we all have to smell that.'"


Good on the bus driver. You have absolutely zero right to inflict your soiled child on the general public. The woman should have changed the kid's diaper before getting on the bus.
 
2012-10-20 04:24:12 PM  
Nope, sorry, no sympathy. If your baby craps itself, I understand, they do that, but it is not my responsibility to have to deal with it. Get a transfer, get off the bus, get the kid cleaned up and changed, and then get on the next bus. You may be used to the smell of babys**t, and I understand that as a parent, it doesn't bother you, but I do not have kids for exactly that reason. Keep your kid's feces out of my face.

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
 
2012-10-20 04:42:50 PM  

davidphogan: "The driver didn't violate Metro policy - she felt she had to advocate for her passengers by politely and apologetically asking the woman to exit the bus."


suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2012-10-20 06:37:23 PM  
"You don't just come out of nowhere and kick a mom off a bus with a sick child,"

Apparently you do.
 
2012-10-20 06:56:11 PM  
I say we go send Olivia Wilde to shiat on the hood of her car (if she has a car), alternatively, her AC unit so that stench gets passed around a bit.
 
2012-10-20 06:56:50 PM  

FloydA: Nope, sorry, no sympathy. If your baby craps itself, I understand, they do that, but it is not my responsibility to have to deal with it. Get a transfer, get off the bus, get the kid cleaned up and changed, and then get on the next bus. You may be used to the smell of babys**t, and I understand that as a parent, it doesn't bother you, but I do not have kids for exactly that reason. Keep your kid's feces out of my face.

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)


Irish twins?
 
2012-10-20 06:57:07 PM  
God only knows what would have happened on an American Airlines flight.
 
2012-10-20 06:57:50 PM  
The bus driver did what was right. Why let the other passengers suffer by letting a poopy kid on the bus? People will say "But babies will be babies...", but do we let rapists be rapists? Do we let criminals be criminals? If some guy decides to pee/poo while still on the bus and uses the "it's part of my culture to pee/poo anywhere" or "oh it's a medical condition, pay no attention to me" reason, should we allow him to stay on the bus?

No.

The other commuters are just like you. They pay the fare and hope to get to their destination as quickly as possible with as little trouble. Nobody is perfect. Some may use strong cologne, some may have not taken a shower for a few days. Still, there's a certain limitation to tolerance. Most little annoyances aren't as strong as a baby's poo. Others can easily be ignored, but imagine yourself having to travel a long distance with the smell of baby's crap flowing into your nose non-stop and there's no way to avoid it. Now what?

Yes, babies will be babies. They can't stop themselves from pooping their diapers because they don't have that ability yet. Still, as much responsibility a parent has for his/her child, so should the parent consider how inconvenienced other people might be due to the baby's problems.

Having a baby does not give you special permit to cause trouble to others.
 
2012-10-20 06:58:53 PM  
Relevant yahoo comment on the story:

"If *Stink* is now the criteria for throwing someone off the bus, there are going to be a lot of empty buses driving around."
 
2012-10-20 06:59:42 PM  
The driver of the next bus that picked them up must have had a cold.
 
2012-10-20 06:59:56 PM  
she should have removed the diaper before leaving her seat, dropped it in the aisle and squashed the shiat out of it on her way out.
 
2012-10-20 07:00:41 PM  
Should have had a HERO tag.
 
2012-10-20 07:01:02 PM  
would she have preferred the alternative?
 
2012-10-20 07:01:06 PM  

FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)


Irish twins.
 
2012-10-20 07:02:50 PM  

bagfed: she should have removed the diaper before leaving her seat, dropped it in the aisle and squashed the shiat out of it on her way out.


Would have been really fun to see her outrage when she was arrested for vandalism and littering.
 
2012-10-20 07:03:59 PM  
If you put the soiled diaper in a dog poopie bag it holds in the smell.

My daughter is almost 3 and isn't potty trained yet. She's just not quite ready to do it.
 
2012-10-20 07:04:40 PM  
I figured fat, but I missed it on the honkey.
 
2012-10-20 07:05:38 PM  
I'll bet that if I shiat my pants that I'd get the
 
2012-10-20 07:05:48 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I say we go send Olivia Wilde to shiat on the hood of her car (if she has a car), alternatively, her AC unit so that stench gets passed around a bit.


Why do I feel as if you've revealed just a bit too much about a personal fetish?
 
2012-10-20 07:05:59 PM  
'..your baby ... smells really bad..'
Your baby is ugly, too.
 
2012-10-20 07:06:30 PM  
She had to walk to the Dr.'s office while four months pregnant?"

/I got news for you Jonah, lots of pregnant women work their whole pregnancy, and are on their feet. Maybe if you lost some weight you would be able to walk around easier? Lay off the bon bons and twinkies lardy.

/Trolling? mabye i am, maybe not.
 
2012-10-20 07:07:21 PM  
In Portland a couple years ago, a homeless dude got on the bus and sat right behind me. The guy absolutely reeked. It was a long-stewing odor of bacterially-fermented sweat, urine, feces, hair oil and whatever the hell he'd been rolling in. People quickly moved away from him, filling all the available seats possible. I was prepared to stick it out, but once my gorge began to rise and I started gagging, I just got off the bus. I felt like I was covered with a physical film of stench. I wish the driver had told his ass to get off the bus.
 
2012-10-20 07:09:28 PM  
Achievement unlocked: odor in the court. Getting a smelly baby and parent out of the bus.
 
2012-10-20 07:10:19 PM  
what about the smelly old people who piss and crap their pants. What about the tool who wears an entire bottle of cologne? what about the jerk who ate 40 cloves of garlic and reeks while he sweats and breathes? tons of people smell. That's why i thank god for my allergies.
 
2012-10-20 07:12:29 PM  
Chances are she folded up three seats to accommodate the SUV-sized stroller her little snowflake was in, or she was blocking the aisle. She shouldn't force the other passengers to smell her kid's shiat on top of everything else. Good on the driver for throwing her off
 
2012-10-20 07:14:26 PM  

5monkeys: what about the smelly old people who piss and crap their pants. What about the tool who wears an entire bottle of cologne? what about the jerk who ate 40 cloves of garlic and reeks while he sweats and breathes? tons of people smell. That's why i thank god for my allergies.


I'd actually be good with kicking them off too.
 
2012-10-20 07:16:22 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: If you put the soiled diaper in a dog poopie bag it holds in the smell.

My daughter is almost 3 and isn't potty trained yet. She's just not quite ready to do it.


Try locking her in the bathroom for a few days.
 
2012-10-20 07:18:06 PM  
Single childess farkers...everywhere..everywhere the eye can see.
 
2012-10-20 07:18:14 PM  
That is one of several reasons why I chose not to breed.

Babies drive me insane. Their screaming cry can drive me close to homicide. I want to take a baseball bat to every freakin' parent who just has to keep shopping in a store with their screaming kid and shoot those who do the same in a restaurant.

I'm not sure which is worse, riding a bus with a reeking kid or walking through a wet parking lot, after a summer rain on a hot day and having to jog around the inevitable, disposable, used diapers pigs have dropped out of their cars, to simmer in the puddles.

Even nicer once a car or two runs them over.

Years back, when smoking was cool, in a restaurant, I was asked by a young couple with an infant sitting next to me, to not smoke. It bothered the baby.

They sat in the friggin' SMOKING area.

I'm afraid I insulted them a tad.
 
2012-10-20 07:18:41 PM  

FormlessOne: DeathByGeekSquad: I say we go send Olivia Wilde to shiat on the hood of her car (if she has a car), alternatively, her AC unit so that stench gets passed around a bit.

Why do I feel as if you've revealed just a bit too much about a personal fetish?


Because you haven't seen the movie Butter yet, which involves Olivia Wilde threatening to shiat on the hood of a car.
 
2012-10-20 07:19:24 PM  

MemeSlave: I figured fat, but I missed it on the honkey.


Really? she's white so she's OUTRAGED and demands RETRIBUTION. if she was black, she'd have choked a biatch or held up traffic or threw rocks at the bus. Different story completely.
 
2012-10-20 07:19:54 PM  

BilldaCat10: Relevant yahoo comment on the story:

"If *Stink* is now the criteria for throwing someone off the bus, there are going to be a lot of empty buses driving around."



Theres a big difference between "guy at the end of the bus who hasnt showered for a few days" versus the "baby with incredibly offensive fecal odor permeating the entire bus" . You think an employee with a stellar record, who is quite used to smelling people, would stop this one woman and ask her to leave just to be mean to her?

My daughters were babies once, I remember taking care of their stinky asses, it was a hassle. Doesnt mean she can inflict her pain on the rest of the public, though. Get off the bus, clean your damn kid up so it smells acceptable, then get back on the bus.
 
2012-10-20 07:20:07 PM  

5monkeys: . What about the tool who wears an entire bottle of cologne? .


I drive people around for a hotel and I wish to God I could refuse people based on heavy cologne/perfume use. There are times where I've actually had to drive that van around for 5-10 minutes with all windows open (in winter) to get rid of the stench of heavy cologne and perfume after I've dropped them off. (The worst offenders seem to come from India)

Soap and water people, learn it, use it, love it.
 
2012-10-20 07:20:52 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: bagfed: she should have removed the diaper before leaving her seat, dropped it in the aisle and squashed the shiat out of it on her way out.

Would have been really fun to see her outrage when she was arrested for vandalism and littering.


You're right. Drop it in the driver's little wastebasket instead.
 
2012-10-20 07:22:14 PM  
That's the price you pay for being poor and relying on public transit. If you don't want to deal with kids on the bus, try saving up money and buying a car.
 
2012-10-20 07:23:20 PM  

Keigh: MemeSlave: I figured fat, but I missed it on the honkey.

Really? she's white so she's OUTRAGED and demands RETRIBUTION. if she was black, she'd have choked a biatch or held up traffic or threw rocks at the bus. Different story completely.



She doesnt look white to me, nor does her last name seem to indicate white.

/that racist just made you act racist
 
2012-10-20 07:23:34 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-20 07:23:58 PM  

bagfed: Freudian_slipknot: bagfed: she should have removed the diaper before leaving her seat, dropped it in the aisle and squashed the shiat out of it on her way out.

Would have been really fun to see her outrage when she was arrested for vandalism and littering.

You're right. Drop it in the driver's little wastebasket instead.


That's no way to speak about your wife!
 
2012-10-20 07:25:06 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: That's the price you pay for being poor and relying on public transit. If you don't want to deal with kids on the bus, try saving up money and buying a car.


Something tells me the public is picking up the tab for her kids as well.
 
2012-10-20 07:25:37 PM  
Other people have to deal with the fact that children poop in their diapers. For the same reason you pay for maternity leave and education. Yes the welfare of children is more important then your worthless complaints.
 
2012-10-20 07:26:22 PM  

bagfed: You're right. Drop it in the driver's little wastebasket instead.


Yeah! That'd inconvenience him for almost a whole minute while he tied off the bag and moved on. VENGEANCE!
 
2012-10-20 07:26:27 PM  
Hhhhmmm.... it's strange that in the story there's no mention of the father being outraged as well.

/berry, berry strange.
 
2012-10-20 07:27:26 PM  

D_Evans45: doesnt look white to me


uuuhhhhhhhhh, oookkaaayyy?

/i have black friends
 
2012-10-20 07:29:23 PM  

Fark It: "He had just pooped in his diaper as soon as I got on [the bus]," she told ABC News.

"Right after that, the bus driver told me to get off the bus," Hakimian said. "I said, 'why is that?' She said, 'your baby ... smells really bad. And it's not fair that we all have to smell that.'"

Good on the bus driver. You have absolutely zero right to inflict your soiled child on the general public. The woman should have changed the kid's diaper before getting on the bus.


Know how I know you didn't read your quote?
 
2012-10-20 07:33:49 PM  

Thisbymaster: Yes the welfare of children is more important then your worthless complaints


How was the child's welfare endangered by having to be pushed in a stroller for a few blocks?

Hell, considering how filthy people are, bringing a young child onto a bus at all is more endangering than that. They explore with hands and mouths and a bus is basically a petri dish...
 
2012-10-20 07:34:16 PM  
Jesus, some people in this thread are pretty shocking..

I get on a public transit, people smell. If a HOMELESS person is next to me and they were able to afford a fair that is a luxury, what kind of ninny am I that I can't survive a few minutes of discomfort out of my relatively wonderful existence so he or she can have a minute of something nice. A mother gets on the bus to take a sick child to a doctor, the child shiats its pants the minute she gets on the bus...and what is she supposed to do? Are we all such delicate flowers now we can't just suck it up for a few minutes so she can get where she needs to go?

Y'all are pretty selfish.
 
2012-10-20 07:38:04 PM  

lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.


Also known as stupidity.
 
2012-10-20 07:39:48 PM  

gulogulo: Jesus, some people in this thread are pretty shocking..

I get on a public transit, people smell. If a HOMELESS person is next to me and they were able to afford a fair that is a luxury, what kind of ninny am I that I can't survive a few minutes of discomfort out of my relatively wonderful existence so he or she can have a minute of something nice. A mother gets on the bus to take a sick child to a doctor, the child shiats its pants the minute she gets on the bus...and what is she supposed to do? Are we all such delicate flowers now we can't just suck it up for a few minutes so she can get where she needs to go?

Y'all are pretty selfish.


I think that its pants were the best possible place the baby could have shat in that situation.
 
2012-10-20 07:39:54 PM  

MemeSlave: I figured fat, but I missed it on the honkey.


She's not honky (WASP)... google says Hakimian is Armenian?

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Hhhhmmm.... it's strange that in the story there's no mention of the father being outraged as well.

/berry, berry strange.


Father, or fathers?

/men stay loving whores
//men stay fking whores
///men need to be more discerning
 
2012-10-20 07:40:37 PM  

FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.


Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?
 
2012-10-20 07:40:50 PM  

gulogulo: Jesus, some people in this thread are pretty shocking..

I get on a public transit, people smell. If a HOMELESS person is next to me and they were able to afford a fair that is a luxury, what kind of ninny am I that I can't survive a few minutes of discomfort out of my relatively wonderful existence so he or she can have a minute of something nice. A mother gets on the bus to take a sick child to a doctor, the child shiats its pants the minute she gets on the bus...and what is she supposed to do? Are we all such delicate flowers now we can't just suck it up for a few minutes so she can get where she needs to go?

Y'all are pretty selfish.


No. Not really. We just expect to enjoy public conveyances as one would expect in a developed country instead of the hygiene standards of a third-world shiathole.

You want to ride the bus with goats, chickens, pooping kids? There are plenty of other cultures where that's accepted. I prefer not to.
 
2012-10-20 07:41:16 PM  
FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?
 
2012-10-20 07:42:09 PM  

lohphat: gulogulo: Jesus, some people in this thread are pretty shocking..

I get on a public transit, people smell. If a HOMELESS person is next to me and they were able to afford a fair that is a luxury, what kind of ninny am I that I can't survive a few minutes of discomfort out of my relatively wonderful existence so he or she can have a minute of something nice. A mother gets on the bus to take a sick child to a doctor, the child shiats its pants the minute she gets on the bus...and what is she supposed to do? Are we all such delicate flowers now we can't just suck it up for a few minutes so she can get where she needs to go?

Y'all are pretty selfish.

No. Not really. We just expect to enjoy public conveyances as one would expect in a developed country instead of the hygiene standards of a third-world shiathole.

You want to ride the bus with goats, chickens, pooping kids? There are plenty of other cultures where that's accepted. I prefer not to.


So we'll kick everyone out that doesn't fit your bourgeoisie standards? It's public transport..not private. You don't want to deal with ALL of the public, then get in your car.
 
2012-10-20 07:42:12 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?


"He accidentally had sexual congress with me."

Accidents are usually caused by people who shouldn't be driving.
 
2012-10-20 07:43:20 PM  

lohphat: gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?

"He accidentally had sexual congress with me."

Accidents are usually caused by people who shouldn't be driving.


Or a condom breaks. We don't know. Why label her like that?
 
2012-10-20 07:44:47 PM  

OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?


Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree
 
2012-10-20 07:46:02 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?


Is this one of those things where no one can criticise anything a woman does because it's misogynistic and shaming?
 
2012-10-20 07:46:32 PM  

misanthropic1: OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?

Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree


No kids for the poor folks. Got it.
 
2012-10-20 07:47:32 PM  

gulogulo:
So we'll kick everyone out that doesn't fit your bourgeoisie standards? It's public transport..not private. You don't want to deal with ALL of the public, then get in your car.


No. I travel a lot and don't see the sort of selfish "whatever I do at home I can do in public" childish behavior. If that's "bourgeoisie" to you then so is indoor plumbing and sanitary toilets by your standards.

Don't see it in Japan, but do in China. Don't see it in Scandinavia, France, Germany, UK, Czech Republic, etc.

Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.

Raise your civil standards a bit.

/you smell filthy
 
2012-10-20 07:48:04 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?


Fking without protection is not an accident.
She's just a ho.
Condom misusage is more normal than condom breakage, right?
 
2012-10-20 07:48:06 PM  

FunkOut: gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?

Is this one of those things where no one can criticise anything a woman does because it's misogynistic and shaming?


No. This is one of those things where people are criticizing her for just daring to be a mother that took a bus. And making wild conjectures why she is in that predicament, while they are sitting I bet in relatively more comfortable lifestyles than she is. Are you listening to yourselves?
 
2012-10-20 07:49:04 PM  

gulogulo: misanthropic1: OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?

Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree

No kids for the poor folks. Got it.


No. My grandparents were poor but had the self respect not to act like undisciplined mouth-breathing fools in public.
 
2012-10-20 07:49:35 PM  

Fark It: "He had just pooped in his diaper as soon as I got on [the bus]," she told ABC News.

"Right after that, the bus driver told me to get off the bus," Hakimian said. "I said, 'why is that?' She said, 'your baby ... smells really bad. And it's not fair that we all have to smell that.'"

Good on the bus driver. You have absolutely zero right to inflict your soiled child on the general public. The woman should have changed the kid's diaper before getting on the bus.


So, the next time I'm on some form of public transportation on which there is also some female who bathed in perfume, should I expect the bus driver to ask her to get off the bus because I believe she has zero right to inflict her overpowering scent on the general public?
 
2012-10-20 07:50:34 PM  

BilldaCat10: Relevant yahoo comment on the story:

"If *Stink* is now the criteria for throwing someone off the bus, there are going to be a lot of empty buses driving around."


Or there damn well ought to be.
 
2012-10-20 07:50:43 PM  

lohphat: No. I travel a lot and don't see the sort of selfish "whatever I do at home I can do in public" childish behavior. If that's "bourgeoisie" to you then so is indoor plumbing and sanitary toilets by your standards.


Yes. Those are, to someone who may be riding the bus who you just are so delicate that you just can't stand to be next to, those might in fact be very bourgeoisie. Or would you prefer we just erase the homeless from public existence? Or the poor who take the bus with their kids and have kids that oh my god, you poor flower, just soiled their diapers forcing YOU..poor YOU to stand next to them for a whole ..five minutes. I mean you poor thing. Why is no one thinking of YOUR needs in all of this, right?
 
2012-10-20 07:51:12 PM  

lohphat: Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.


No, its being effete.
 
2012-10-20 07:51:54 PM  

FloydA: (Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)


I guess it's too much to expect a misogynist to understand a woman's reproductive organs.
 
2012-10-20 07:52:10 PM  

lohphat: No. My grandparents were poor but had the self respect not to act like undisciplined mouth-breathing fools in public.


Define mouth-breathing fool. A kid soiling his diaper=mouth-breathing fool? Do you know any actually poor people now, or are you just thumbing your nose at them from a distance?
 
2012-10-20 07:53:05 PM  

bagfed: lohphat: Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.

No, its being effete civilized.


FTFY
 
2012-10-20 07:54:13 PM  

D_Evans45: BilldaCat10: Relevant yahoo comment on the story:

"If *Stink* is now the criteria for throwing someone off the bus, there are going to be a lot of empty buses driving around."

Theres a big difference between "guy at the end of the bus who hasnt showered for a few days" versus the "baby with incredibly offensive fecal odor permeating the entire bus" . You think an employee with a stellar record, who is quite used to smelling people, would stop this one woman and ask her to leave just to be mean to her?

My daughters were babies once, I remember taking care of their stinky asses, it was a hassle. Doesnt mean she can inflict her pain on the rest of the public, though. Get off the bus, clean your damn kid up so it smells acceptable, then get back on the bus.


Wonder if she would have stopped aforementioned woman if she was wearing an excessive amount of perfume... which others might find offensive?

People need to get over the offensensitivity.
 
2012-10-20 07:54:21 PM  
Having a kid and diapers and being pregnant is quite common. That way you don't get used to not having to change diapers in between babies.

I had three within 5 years.
 
2012-10-20 07:55:26 PM  

gulogulo: lohphat: No. My grandparents were poor but had the self respect not to act like undisciplined mouth-breathing fools in public.

Define mouth-breathing fool. A kid soiling his diaper=mouth-breathing fool? Do you know any actually poor people now, or are you just thumbing your nose at them from a distance?


No, the mother is for the attitude that the world has to put up with her situation as if she's entitled. She's not.

Your bus fare, like a plane fare, does NOT mean you can do or behave as you would at home or in your own car.

Some cultures understand this, you clearly do not.
 
2012-10-20 07:55:34 PM  

gulogulo: misanthropic1: OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?

Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree

No kids for the poor folks. Got it.


In an ideal world; the average cost of raising a child to adulthood is over 100K, and the US has utterly meager social services compared to the rest of the developed world. If your goal is to raise a nation of underprivileged, under-educated malcontents to fill privatized prisons (where you can't talk them into going off to die in foreign wars), I suppose you'd want them to keep breeding at the rate they are...
 
2012-10-20 07:56:59 PM  

gulogulo: lohphat: gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?

"He accidentally had sexual congress with me."

Accidents are usually caused by people who shouldn't be driving.

Or a condom breaks. We don't know. Why label her like that?


I've had that happen. I went and got a pill from the doctor the day after it happened. I like living in modern times.
 
2012-10-20 07:57:05 PM  

lohphat: bagfed: lohphat: Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.

No, its being effete civilized.

FTFY


I think civilized people would have found a solution that didn't fark two members of the group out of equal treatment.
 
2012-10-20 07:58:20 PM  

lohphat: No, the mother is for the attitude that the world has to put up with her situation as if she's entitled. She's not.


You know, mom with sick child and rushing to make a doctors appointment that has to take a bus? I betting dimes to donuts you'd survive and your delicate sensibilities will get over your discomfort while she has to take care of things a bit more important than matters that offend you. Get over yourself. She did nothing wrong. I can tell you've never dealt with sick kids. I can tell you've never really been poor. You don't get it, and I feel sorry for you. It must be hard going through life being offended by all the folks who are not as well off as you.
 
2012-10-20 07:59:48 PM  
gulogulo is really freaking out here.
 
2012-10-20 08:01:10 PM  

misanthropic1: gulogulo: misanthropic1: OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?

Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree

No kids for the poor folks. Got it.

In an ideal world; the average cost of raising a child to adulthood is over 100K, and the US has utterly meager social services compared to the rest of the developed world. If your goal is to raise a nation of underprivileged, under-educated malcontents to fill privatized prisons (where you can't talk them into going off to die in foreign wars), I suppose you'd want them to keep breeding at the rate they are...


So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?
 
2012-10-20 08:02:47 PM  

FloydA: (Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)


childbirth is a miracle.
 
2012-10-20 08:03:41 PM  

FunkOut: gulogulo is really freaking out here.


Maybe it's just a sudden realization how awful people can be. There was a time I would have agreed..but holy shiat, I'm pretty appalled. It's like how many towns have 'scrubbed' the homeless from their towns. These people have nothing and we can't stand to look at them. We really don't treat these people in our society very well. I was only mildly annoyed with the comment about the woman getting kicked off ith her child, but when someone brought up the stinky homeless ..well..just wow. Listen to yourselves.
 
2012-10-20 08:04:26 PM  
Wow,lots of whiners here.

The kid takes a dump as soon as she gets on the bus. Unpleasant, sure. Will it kill you? nope. Kids do that. YOU did that. Shiat happens (pun intended)
It was a mile and a half to the doctor's office, not a TransAtlantic flight. Maybe you'd have rather had her change the diaper ON the bus?

Get over yourselves, you self-absorbed adolescents.
 
2012-10-20 08:04:35 PM  

gulogulo: lohphat: No, the mother is for the attitude that the world has to put up with her situation as if she's entitled. She's not.

You know, mom with sick child and rushing to make a doctors appointment that has to take a bus? I betting dimes to donuts you'd survive and your delicate sensibilities will get over your discomfort while she has to take care of things a bit more important than matters that offend you. Get over yourself. She did nothing wrong. I can tell you've never dealt with sick kids. I can tell you've never really been poor. You don't get it, and I feel sorry for you. It must be hard going through life being offended by all the folks who are not as well off as you.


So dragging a sick person into a closed container of presumably healthy people sounds ok to you? Are you the guy who shows up to work with the flu because you just have to get work done?

I take this person had no alternatives than to risk everyone else's Heath and wage earning potential by getting them sick is ok.

As long as I know where you stand.
 
2012-10-20 08:05:06 PM  

gulogulo: misanthropic1: gulogulo: misanthropic1: OnlyM3: FloydA

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)
Why are you having kids when you can't afford a car?

Amazed it took that long.

/completely agree

No kids for the poor folks. Got it.

In an ideal world; the average cost of raising a child to adulthood is over 100K, and the US has utterly meager social services compared to the rest of the developed world. If your goal is to raise a nation of underprivileged, under-educated malcontents to fill privatized prisons (where you can't talk them into going off to die in foreign wars), I suppose you'd want them to keep breeding at the rate they are...

So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?


You'll note upon a closer rereading of my comments, that nowhere did I advocate any sort of mandate against the poor breeding. My snark was to the effect of it being a very bad idea for both the individuals and society at large; which part of that would you like to disagree with?
 
2012-10-20 08:05:19 PM  

gulogulo:
So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?


Wow.

Buh-bye.
 
2012-10-20 08:06:41 PM  

lohphat: gulogulo: lohphat: No, the mother is for the attitude that the world has to put up with her situation as if she's entitled. She's not.

You know, mom with sick child and rushing to make a doctors appointment that has to take a bus? I betting dimes to donuts you'd survive and your delicate sensibilities will get over your discomfort while she has to take care of things a bit more important than matters that offend you. Get over yourself. She did nothing wrong. I can tell you've never dealt with sick kids. I can tell you've never really been poor. You don't get it, and I feel sorry for you. It must be hard going through life being offended by all the folks who are not as well off as you.

So dragging a sick person into a closed container of presumably healthy people sounds ok to you? Are you the guy who shows up to work with the flu because you just have to get work done?

I take this person had no alternatives than to risk everyone else's Heath and wage earning potential by getting them sick is ok.

As long as I know where you stand.


You don't know in what way he was sick, do you? But your fear of germs, I might make a recommendation: don't EVER go out in the public. It is filthy, filthy place.
 
2012-10-20 08:07:50 PM  
With the exception of gulogulo, y'all are farking shatholes. You'd be the first ones to criticize the woman for not taking her sick child to the doc if the story was about her kid dying.

Her kid was sick. She took him to the doctor's like a good parent. The child shat after getting on the bus-- as sick children will do.

You have no right to criticize her for anything else based on facts not in evidence. Maybe she's a welfare queen taking her second-check baby to the doctor. Maybe she's a working mom who gave up her car so she could afford to take in her dead sister's kid. Fark you all for assuming the worst about people.

And fark you for being such selfish d*cks that you'd kick a pregnant lady off a bus because your precious snowflake nose is "offended." Fark you. Shatholes.
 
2012-10-20 08:07:52 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: gulogulo is really freaking out here.

Maybe it's just a sudden realization how awful people can be. There was a time I would have agreed..but holy shiat, I'm pretty appalled. It's like how many towns have 'scrubbed' the homeless from their towns. These people have nothing and we can't stand to look at them. We really don't treat these people in our society very well. I was only mildly annoyed with the comment about the woman getting kicked off ith her child, but when someone brought up the stinky homeless ..well..just wow. Listen to yourselves.


I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.
 
2012-10-20 08:08:28 PM  

Harridan: Wow,lots of whiners here.

The kid takes a dump as soon as she gets on the bus. Unpleasant, sure. Will it kill you? nope. Kids do that. YOU did that. Shiat happens (pun intended)
It was a mile and a half to the doctor's office, not a TransAtlantic flight. Maybe you'd have rather had her change the diaper ON the bus?

Get over yourselves, you self-absorbed adolescents.


Yeah I did that. And when I misbehaved in public, like a restaurant, I was taken outside ASAP instead of the mouth-breathing "hey look we made a babby" crowd who just sit there and have their kid ruin everyone else's paid night out.

The world is not your personal living room.
 
2012-10-20 08:09:13 PM  

lohphat: gulogulo:
So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?

Wow.

Buh-bye.


Oh, so that was offensive to you, but implying I want to create lots of poor people was not. That's pretty hypocritical.
 
2012-10-20 08:10:57 PM  

FunkOut: I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.


I'm willing to bet you're probably doing ok. But, if I'm wrong, mea culpa.
 
2012-10-20 08:11:49 PM  

Harridan: Wow,lots of whiners here.

The kid takes a dump as soon as she gets on the bus. Unpleasant, sure. Will it kill you? nope. Kids do that. YOU did that. Shiat happens (pun intended)
It was a mile and a half to the doctor's office, not a TransAtlantic flight. Maybe you'd have rather had her change the diaper ON the bus?

Get over yourselves, you self-absorbed adolescents.


A mile and a half is walking distance. Unless there was a highway to cross, which makes taking the bus kosher. Otherwise, walk it. The time it takes to get to the bustop, wait, enter the bus, wait, exit the bus, she could have walked and had time to sit and rest.
 
2012-10-20 08:12:58 PM  

brimed03: With the exception of gulogulo, y'all are farking shatholes. You'd be the first ones to criticize the woman for not taking her sick child to the doc if the story was about her kid dying.

Her kid was sick. She took him to the doctor's like a good parent. The child shat after getting on the bus-- as sick children will do.

You have no right to criticize her for anything else based on facts not in evidence. Maybe she's a welfare queen taking her second-check baby to the doctor. Maybe she's a working mom who gave up her car so she could afford to take in her dead sister's kid. Fark you all for assuming the worst about people.

And fark you for being such selfish d*cks that you'd kick a pregnant lady off a bus because your precious snowflake nose is "offended." Fark you. Shatholes.


This. But I'll simmer down now. I think I've made my point.
 
2012-10-20 08:13:44 PM  

gulogulo: lohphat: gulogulo:
So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?

Wow.

Buh-bye.

Oh, so that was offensive to you, but implying I want to create lots of poor people was not. That's pretty hypocritical.


Let's get it straight here, I implied that advocacy like yours seeks to create a larger underclass; credit where credit is due...
 
2012-10-20 08:14:33 PM  
They could have held their noses.
 
2012-10-20 08:15:53 PM  

misanthropic1: gulogulo: lohphat: gulogulo:
So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?

Wow.

Buh-bye.

Oh, so that was offensive to you, but implying I want to create lots of poor people was not. That's pretty hypocritical.

Let's get it straight here, I implied that advocacy like yours seeks to create a larger underclass; credit where credit is due...


Yes I know. But he was commenting on my post to your response. I don't want a larger underclass and I think that's a pretty offensive conclusion to jump to, for the mere reason that I don't think restricting who gets to have babies is the way to fix it.
 
2012-10-20 08:16:02 PM  
4 months pregnant =/= 9 months pregnant.

At 4 months, most women barely even show through their clothes. THIS woman is obviously quite overweight, which means that at 4 months, she would barely even notice the difference. It would be worse for her if she had an orange in her pocket.
 
2012-10-20 08:18:25 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.

I'm willing to bet you're probably doing ok. But, if I'm wrong, mea culpa.


Oh, yeah, mea culpa right in yer face.

And I merely said it was stupid to have two children so close. It's unhealthy for the woman's body to go through that. My one grandmother was pregnant 18 times due to stupidity and Catholicism. I view that as very uncool.
 
2012-10-20 08:18:36 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: That's the price you pay for being poor and relying on public transit. If you don't want to deal with kids on the bus, try saving up money and buying a car.


Well, if the farkin' LANDLORDS weren't such greedy farks..but, you "charge what the market will bear" just because you can get away with it.
 
2012-10-20 08:18:49 PM  

bagfed: lohphat: Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.

No, its being effete.


And snobbish. And intellectual, too.

www.boomertoyou.com
 
2012-10-20 08:19:27 PM  

FunkOut: gulogulo: FunkOut: I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.

I'm willing to bet you're probably doing ok. But, if I'm wrong, mea culpa.

Oh, yeah, mea culpa right in yer face.

And I merely said it was stupid to have two children so close. It's unhealthy for the woman's body to go through that. My one grandmother was pregnant 18 times due to stupidity and Catholicism. I view that as very uncool.


Oh, so you've had a kid, no car, and had to take the bus when they were sick one time?
 
2012-10-20 08:19:30 PM  

lohphat: Harridan: Wow,lots of whiners here.

The kid takes a dump as soon as she gets on the bus. Unpleasant, sure. Will it kill you? nope. Kids do that. YOU did that. Shiat happens (pun intended)
It was a mile and a half to the doctor's office, not a TransAtlantic flight. Maybe you'd have rather had her change the diaper ON the bus?

Get over yourselves, you self-absorbed adolescents.

Yeah I did that. And when I misbehaved in public, like a restaurant, I was taken outside ASAP instead of the mouth-breathing "hey look we made a babby" crowd who just sit there and have their kid ruin everyone else's paid night out.

The world is not your personal living room.


Children "misbehaving" in a restaurant has fark-all to do with a sick child being transported to the Dr's office. If she were treating the bus as her "living room", I suspect she'd have laid the kid on the floor and changed his diaper in front of everyone.

I repeat - get over yourself.
 
2012-10-20 08:19:42 PM  

FunkOut:
I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.


This is not a question of money, it's a question of personal responsibility.

In all my frequent and lengthy travels I only see this level of self-absorbed public behavior at this scale in the US. Eating/drinking/spitting on buses/trams/trains when it's posted not to. Playing radios loudly. Vandalism.

It's the "screw you, I do what I want" culture run amok.

Yes, I am trying to leave. I'd gladly pay higher taxes for clean, modern infrastructure, medical services and schooling that won't bankrupt me.

And don't even try to play the race card. 3rd generation mutt.

Yes, I'm part Chinese and the filth you see in America's Chinatowns mirrors the homeland. No wonder new flu strains get started there.

It all comes down to culture and part of that is what is considered acceptable in public and respect of others right to use and enjoy that public space.

Yes, I have a kid, and no there's no bus rides until diapers were in the past and certainly not if they're sick.
 
2012-10-20 08:20:10 PM  

gulogulo: misanthropic1: gulogulo: lohphat: gulogulo:
So your answer is yes: poor people should not be allowed to have babies, right? How, pray tell do you plan to bring on this brave new world?

Wow.

Buh-bye.

Oh, so that was offensive to you, but implying I want to create lots of poor people was not. That's pretty hypocritical.

Let's get it straight here, I implied that advocacy like yours seeks to create a larger underclass; credit where credit is due...

Yes I know. But he was commenting on my post to your response. I don't want a larger underclass and I think that's a pretty offensive conclusion to jump to, for the mere reason that I don't think restricting who gets to have babies is the way to fix it.


There you go getting after that strawman again. I get that he apparently makes you very upset, but I'm not the one that threw him up; you did...

/generally best to argue against the dickish things I did say
 
2012-10-20 08:20:26 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

hello BART
 
2012-10-20 08:21:38 PM  

mycathatesyou: Having a kid and diapers and being pregnant is quite common. That way you don't get used to not having to change diapers in between babies.

I had three within 5 years.


Diapers?
 
2012-10-20 08:22:00 PM  
GTFO... Come back after the changing. The rest of the bus didn't shiat on her.... A mile and a half didn't kill her either.

/your stress is YOURS.
 
2012-10-20 08:22:52 PM  

Harridan:
I repeat - get over yourself.


Sorry for expecting enclosed public spaces being forced into close quarters with sick poopy kids.

Mile and a half? Get a cab. Call a friend. Don't play Typhoid Mary.
 
2012-10-20 08:24:04 PM  

misanthropic1: There you go getting after that strawman again. I get that he apparently makes you very upset, but I'm not the one that threw him up; you did...


Threw him up...what? Can you rephrase that? You said that i wanted a larger underclass merely for the reason that I don't think people should be restricted by their income on whether or not they can have babies. Am I wrong? That was a pretty big straw man there, yourself, buddy.
 
2012-10-20 08:26:32 PM  

lohphat: Harridan:
I repeat - get over yourself.

Sorry for expecting enclosed public spaces being forced into close quarters with sick poopy kids.

Mile and a half? Get a cab. Call a friend. Don't play Typhoid Mary.


Spoken like an entitled snob.
If she was riding the bus, she probably had no money for a cab. If she lived in a city, likely none of her friends own cars either. Walking with a sick toddler? Possibly, but difficult if she also did not own a stroller.

Get over yourself.
 
2012-10-20 08:30:05 PM  

gulogulo: misanthropic1: There you go getting after that strawman again. I get that he apparently makes you very upset, but I'm not the one that threw him up; you did...

Threw him up...what? Can you rephrase that? You said that i wanted a larger underclass merely for the reason that I don't think people should be restricted by their income on whether or not they can have babies. Am I wrong? That was a pretty big straw man there, yourself, buddy.


I can, but I like my phrasing as-is; kind of a multiple level thing. You are so far the only person discussion "restrictions" on breeding (IE a strawman), so yes; you are wrong to attribute that position to me for the sake of railing against it. If you'd like to discuss my scorn and derision of culture I believe engenders massive suffering, feel free. If you want to attack a figment of your imagination, also feel free; just don't address me like you're responding to something I said.

/only on fark am I a bleeding heart and/or a nazi, thread depending
 
2012-10-20 08:30:54 PM  
*discussing
 
2012-10-20 08:31:30 PM  

Harridan:

Spoken like an entitled snob adult.

If she was riding the bus, she probably had no money for a cab. If she lived in a city, likely none of her friends own cars either. Walking with a sick toddler? Possibly, but difficult if she also did not own a stroller.

Get over yourself.


I can see how you would view my opinion that way if you viewed the word as your cat box where your childish actions have no consequences on others.

Buh-bye.
 
2012-10-20 08:33:00 PM  
Go be fat, poor and stinky somewhere else.

But don't take the bus there.
 
2012-10-20 08:33:39 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: gulogulo: FunkOut: I like how you are presuming to know everyone in this thread's socioeconomic status. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions about who you think is making the comments you don't like.

I'm willing to bet you're probably doing ok. But, if I'm wrong, mea culpa.

Oh, yeah, mea culpa right in yer face.

And I merely said it was stupid to have two children so close. It's unhealthy for the woman's body to go through that. My one grandmother was pregnant 18 times due to stupidity and Catholicism. I view that as very uncool.

Oh, so you've had a kid, no car, and had to take the bus when they were sick one time?


I never said anything about the people taking the bus. Did you not read what I just wrote? I only commented on the closeness of the pregnancies. I said nothing about the bus ride. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Why demand questions from me concerning that part?

And you know, I walked to the doctor and the store when I was pregnant the first time. I took the bus to the hospital. Most of this during heavy snow. The worst was walking over thick ice with wind gusts that sometimes knocked you over. I'm a rather small person.
 
2012-10-20 08:34:19 PM  
A mile and a half with a sick toddler can be a really, really long walk. And speaking as someone who takes the bus in Seattle almost every day, I refuse to believe that the passengers haven't encountered far worse smells than an ill toddler's diaper.
 
2012-10-20 08:35:58 PM  
OK, here's the thing I don't get about the story AND all the comments.

Unlike a hobo with bad BO, or a woman doused in cheap perfume, a baby's diaper is transitory. And nowhere does the story say this was a rural area with 90 miles between bus stops. Why didn't the driver drop mom and stinky baby at the next stop, she drops the diaper in the trash can that every city has at the stop, gets on the next bus and goes on to her destination? Most cities I've taken busses in have at least one or two buses per route, it's not like you take one per day and if you miss it you're SOL till the next day. Why didn't she just take the next bus?

And if the driver really did make her get off the bus in between stops with a mile and a half to the next stop, then in most places, that's actually illegal--the driver can't just stop mid-route and put a passenger off unless there's some kind of physical danger and then they have to call the cops or a supervisor. Drivers can't just stop willy-nilly and let passengers off here and there for liability reasons. If the driver forced a woman off the bus where there was no stop and didn't notify a supervisor, then the driver should be disciplined.

Something's not adding up here.
 
2012-10-20 08:36:43 PM  
In the video she was like.. waving the kid back and forth. That is so gross. I have kids (lots of them) and I would never inflict my child's crappy diaper on someone else in a confined space.
 
2012-10-20 08:38:16 PM  
You realize that the conversation was a bit of mashup between both of you speaking about the same topic, replying to one another, and to me? You felt anyone who didn't own a car didn't deserve to have kids. I asked you if poor people (people who can't aford cars) shouldn't have kids, and you responded with articulate argument of why you were right, and then bring in the strawman about me wanting MORE poor people, which is totally irrelevant and not germane to anything that I was saying. I'm responding to something you decided to respond to..in argument for the issue I was taken up against. You're playing a game. lolphat decided me taking issue with you suggestion about poor people more offensive than applying that I want people to be poor (and lots of them). You were given credit for the statements you made.

So what exactly is your problem?
 
2012-10-20 08:38:34 PM  
So... if she should be able to stink up a bus with her kids smelly diaper, and commuters who wear too much perfume/cologne should be allowed to stink up the bus, and homeless people who havent bathed in weeks should be allowed to stink up the bus...

Why cant someone stink up a bus with a cigarette?
 
2012-10-20 08:38:40 PM  
Seriously, is there not always a stinky person on the bus? I might be slightly de-sensitized to the smell of poo since I work in the wastewater business, but I think the smell of people who smoke or work at a fast food kitchen is MUCH worse. And yet, I can deal with it and sit next to them without being a jerk.

And I don't think that it would normally hurt a pregnant woman to walk, but not all pregnancies are the same and for some women it could be incredibly difficult. In any case, it is a public bus and her had not pooped before she got on the bus, she wasn't bothering anyone on purpose or posing any threat to anyone.

Can't people get over themselves and be nice to each other? The lady had a sick kid, I don't think she was having a great day, cut her some slack.
 
2012-10-20 08:39:22 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Go be fat, poor and stinky somewhere else.

But don't take the bus there.


I don't care how rich or poor she is. Don't force your problems on others without their consent.
 
2012-10-20 08:40:52 PM  

FunkOut: I never said anything about the people taking the bus. Did you not read what I just wrote? I only commented on the closeness of the pregnancies. I said nothing about the bus ride. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Why demand questions from me concerning that part?


Well, that's what I was farking talking about. Why are you complaining, again?
 
2012-10-20 08:41:12 PM  

Cyno01: So... if she should be able to stink up a bus with her kids smelly diaper, and commuters who wear too much perfume/cologne should be allowed to stink up the bus, and homeless people who havent bathed in weeks should be allowed to stink up the bus...

Why cant someone stink up a bus with a cigarette?


I've Ben on busses where the driver has prevented homeless or people clearly impaired firm getting on. All you have to do is sit on a damp seat once to appreciate the driver s doing everyone a public service.

Since when is hygiene bourgeoisie?
 
2012-10-20 08:42:29 PM  

gulogulo: You realize that the conversation was a bit of mashup between both of you speaking about the same topic, replying to one another, and to me? You felt anyone who didn't own a car didn't deserve to have kids. I asked you if poor people (people who can't aford cars) shouldn't have kids, and you responded with articulate argument of why you were right, and then bring in the strawman about me wanting MORE poor people, which is totally irrelevant and not germane to anything that I was saying. I'm responding to something you decided to respond to..in argument for the issue I was taken up against. You're playing a game. lolphat decided me taking issue with you suggestion about poor people more offensive than applying that I want people to be poor (and lots of them). You were given credit for the statements you made.

So what exactly is your problem?


This was meant as a reply to misanthropic1. Sorry.
 
2012-10-20 08:42:44 PM  

99.998er: God only knows what would have happened on an American Airlines flight.


It's funny because this happened to me on a flight into Houston. Baby loaded his diaper in a most convincing manner about 20 minutes out. Since the "stay seated" announcement had already been given, had to sit there awash in the aroma. The mother was at least apologetic.

That was before I had kids. Afterwards it probably wouldn't have bothered me as much since my sense of smell has now been damaged beyond repair.

/ laying out SBD's on planes is still good fun though.
 
2012-10-20 08:43:43 PM  

lohphat: Since when is hygiene bourgeoisie


When not everyone has access to daily showers. Or clean clothes. You'd think with as many people suddenly rendered homeless recently we'd be a bit more sensitive to this.
 
2012-10-20 08:43:55 PM  

spidermilk:
Can't people get over themselves and be nice to each other? The lady had a sick kid, I don't think she was having a great day, cut her some slack.


Because a responsible adult would have taken herself off the bus until she could get a handle on the situation before reboarding. But apparently that's too bourgeoisie.
 
2012-10-20 08:45:17 PM  

gulogulo: You realize that the conversation was a bit of mashup between both of you speaking about the same topic, replying to one another, and to me? You felt anyone who didn't own a car didn't deserve to have kids. I asked you if poor people (people who can't aford cars) shouldn't have kids, and you responded with articulate argument of why you were right, and then bring in the strawman about me wanting MORE poor people, which is totally irrelevant and not germane to anything that I was saying. I'm responding to something you decided to respond to..in argument for the issue I was taken up against. You're playing a game. lolphat decided me taking issue with you suggestion about poor people more offensive than applying that I want people to be poor (and lots of them). You were given credit for the statements you made.

So what exactly is your problem?


Who are you talking to?
 
2012-10-20 08:46:25 PM  

FunkOut: gulogulo: You realize that the conversation was a bit of mashup between both of you speaking about the same topic, replying to one another, and to me? You felt anyone who didn't own a car didn't deserve to have kids. I asked you if poor people (people who can't aford cars) shouldn't have kids, and you responded with articulate argument of why you were right, and then bring in the strawman about me wanting MORE poor people, which is totally irrelevant and not germane to anything that I was saying. I'm responding to something you decided to respond to..in argument for the issue I was taken up against. You're playing a game. lolphat decided me taking issue with you suggestion about poor people more offensive than applying that I want people to be poor (and lots of them). You were given credit for the statements you made.

So what exactly is your problem?

Who are you talking to?


see above
 
2012-10-20 08:46:28 PM  

FloydA: Nope, sorry, no sympathy. If your baby craps itself, I understand, they do that, but it is not my responsibility to have to deal with it. Get a transfer, get off the bus, get the kid cleaned up and changed, and then get on the next bus. You may be used to the smell of babys**t, and I understand that as a parent, it doesn't bother you, but I do not have kids for exactly that reason. Keep your kid's feces out of my face.

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)


Why is it a problem to be pregnant and have a child in diapers? I got married young and had three sons by the time I was 21. We had a happy family and I never regretted it. There was always some nosey ass like you trying to imply that I was a freak for not being a single, shallow, club whore. As far as it being unhealthy you are wrong there too. If you are in good health to begin with then having children does not harm you. You seem to be highly ignorant on the subject. Educate yourself. You sound ridiculous.
 
2012-10-20 08:49:16 PM  

Nick Nostril: 99.998er: God only knows what would have happened on an American Airlines flight.

It's funny because this happened to me on a flight into Houston. Baby loaded his diaper in a most convincing manner about 20 minutes out. Since the "stay seated" announcement had already been given, had to sit there awash in the aroma. The mother was at least apologetic.

That was before I had kids. Afterwards it probably wouldn't have bothered me as much since my sense of smell has now been damaged beyond repair.

/ laying out SBD's on planes is still good fun though.


I don't mind kids on planes either if their parents are attentive and deal with any issues promptly.

Once upon a time you didn't see toddlers and babies on planes out of deference to their comfort and that of others. Pressure changes really hurt the ears and its not their fault when they cry. The solution used to be no trips until the kid was 3 or so and could behave and understand how to release the pressure in their ears.

What happened? Cheap fares and lowering of the acceptable behavior bar in public/confined spaces.
 
2012-10-20 08:53:46 PM  

Mija: FloydA: Nope, sorry, no sympathy. If your baby craps itself, I understand, they do that, but it is not my responsibility to have to deal with it. Get a transfer, get off the bus, get the kid cleaned up and changed, and then get on the next bus. You may be used to the smell of babys**t, and I understand that as a parent, it doesn't bother you, but I do not have kids for exactly that reason. Keep your kid's feces out of my face.

(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Why is it a problem to be pregnant and have a child in diapers? I got married young and had three sons by the time I was 21. We had a happy family and I never regretted it. There was always some nosey ass like you trying to imply that I was a freak for not being a single, shallow, club whore. As far as it being unhealthy you are wrong there too. If you are in good health to begin with then having children does not harm you. You seem to be highly ignorant on the subject. Educate yourself. You sound ridiculous.


You know, not all women who don't immediately have children right out of high school are stupid shallow immoral sluts. Sometimes they go to school for 8 years because they are stupid lame nerds who can't get a man to give them babies like a proper lady.
 
2012-10-20 08:55:03 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: If you put the soiled diaper in a dog poopie bag it holds in the smell.

My daughter is almost 3 and isn't potty trained yet. She's just not quite ready to do it.


Look online for a video called Once Upon A Potty. My grandchild watched this a few times a day for a few days. He potty trained himself in a week at the age of two.
 
2012-10-20 08:58:31 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I say we go send Olivia Wilde to shiat on the hood of her car (if she has a car), alternatively, her AC unit so that stench gets passed around a bit.


Olivia Wilde can't shiat.

An ass that righteous cannot be capable of producing so foul. If anything, orange sherbert ice cream with sprinkles comes out.
 
2012-10-20 08:59:58 PM  

FunkOut: You know, not all women who don't immediately have children right out of high school are stupid shallow immoral sluts. Sometimes they go to school for 8 years because they are stupid lame nerds who can't get a man to give them babies like a proper lady.


Rowr... I'll get you a baby... baby.

$50,000... what color you want?
 
2012-10-20 09:05:00 PM  

Harridan: lohphat: Harridan:
I repeat - get over yourself.

Sorry for expecting enclosed public spaces being forced into close quarters with sick poopy kids.

Mile and a half? Get a cab. Call a friend. Don't play Typhoid Mary.

Spoken like an entitled snob.
If she was riding the bus, she probably had no money for a cab. If she lived in a city, likely none of her friends own cars either. Walking with a sick toddler? Possibly, but difficult if she also did not own a stroller.

Get over yourself.


...which leads back to.... why is this biatch pregnant AGAIN? so soon? monday morning quarterbacking, sure, but damn. who's the dick(s) continuing to impregnant this cow?
 
2012-10-20 09:08:06 PM  

gulogulo: FunkOut: lohphat: FloydA:
(Also, why are you 4 months pregnant when you've still got one infant in diapers?)

Irish twins.

Also known as stupidity.

Or you know, an accident. They do happen. Or are we going to shame her for that, now, too?


I think that's what the mother expected. You would not find the mother being asked to leave the bus in the civilized world, being Europe. You need to travel to a place with higher infant mortality and a lower general standard of health care, like the USA.
 
2012-10-20 09:10:27 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: FunkOut: You know, not all women who don't immediately have children right out of high school are stupid shallow immoral sluts. Sometimes they go to school for 8 years because they are stupid lame nerds who can't get a man to give them babies like a proper lady.

Rowr... I'll get you a baby... baby.

$50,000... what color you want?


I'll need a metallic purple one with a unicorn horn, silver pinstriping, dual exhaust and a Tesla coil.
 
2012-10-20 09:10:42 PM  
Holy crap!
Slowly backs out of thread....
 
2012-10-20 09:13:51 PM  

brimed03: With the exception of gulogulo, y'all are farking shatholes. You'd be the first ones to criticize the woman for not taking her sick child to the doc if the story was about her kid dying.

Her kid was sick. She took him to the doctor's like a good parent. The child shat after getting on the bus-- as sick children will do.

You have no right to criticize her for anything else based on facts not in evidence. Maybe she's a welfare queen taking her second-check baby to the doctor. Maybe she's a working mom who gave up her car so she could afford to take in her dead sister's kid. Fark you all for assuming the worst about people.

And fark you for being such selfish d*cks that you'd kick a pregnant lady off a bus because your precious snowflake nose is "offended." Fark you. Shatholes.


Whooah... there, Junior... let's calm down, take a breath and back the retard bus up because it seems you have missed your stop.

Speaking of which, is that you in this picture:

www.tonyrogers.com

 
2012-10-20 09:15:31 PM  
There is exactly one appropritate response to the smell of a child's dirty diaper. Laughter. Get over yourselves.
 
2012-10-20 09:26:37 PM  
Do I have to do everything around here?

t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-20 09:31:58 PM  

Mija: Why is it a problem to be pregnant and have a child in diapers? I got married young and had three sons by the time I was 21. We had a happy family and I never regretted it. There was always some nosey ass like you trying to imply that I was a freak for not being a single, shallow, club whore. As far as it being unhealthy you are wrong there too. If you are in good health to begin with then having children does not harm you. You seem to be highly ignorant on the subject. Educate yourself. You sound ridiculous.



Actually, youre advised to wait at least 18 months between pregnancies, run-on births are associated with low birth weight, small size for gestational age, preterm birth, and uterine rupture in women who attempt vaginal birth after a C-section, and could be linked to autism in second born. Source: Mayo Clinic.

/Not foolish to expect a young hormonal Mexicans to space out her litter, what with Mexican culture, compounded with Catholicism
 
2012-10-20 09:33:54 PM  

FunkOut: Pray 4 Mojo: FunkOut: You know, not all women who don't immediately have children right out of high school are stupid shallow immoral sluts. Sometimes they go to school for 8 years because they are stupid lame nerds who can't get a man to give them babies like a proper lady.

Rowr... I'll get you a baby... baby.

$50,000... what color you want?

I'll need a metallic purple one with a unicorn horn, silver pinstriping, dual exhaust and a Tesla coil.


Yeah... you see... the thing is... that's gonna be a special order. I got a guy that can do the painting, horn and the Tesla Coil no problem. The real biatch is the dual exhaust.
 
2012-10-20 09:34:46 PM  

lohphat: "He accidentally had sexual congress with me."


Congress is always to blame.
 
2012-10-20 09:36:25 PM  

lohphat: I don't mind kids on planes either if their parents are attentive and deal with any issues promptly.

Once upon a time you didn't see toddlers and babies on planes out of deference to their comfort and that of others. Pressure changes really hurt the ears and its not their fault when they cry. The solution used to be no trips until the kid was 3 or so and could behave and understand how to release the pressure in their ears.

What happened? Cheap fares and lowering of the acceptable behavior bar in public/confined spaces.


When was this time? Is it a special imaginary time? My younger brother had his first airplane flight at the age of 2 months in 1962.
Flying in general was not that common but people flew with babies. My own children frequently flew coast to coast. We were not the only ones. I'd love to know when you think this imaginary time was when babies did not accompany their mothers.
 
2012-10-20 09:49:02 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I say we go send Olivia Wilde to shiat on the hood of her car (if she has a car), alternatively, her AC unit so that stench gets passed around a bit.


shiat on the door handles and jizz on it.

/Epic Volkszone thread.
//NSFW text.
 
2012-10-20 10:07:34 PM  

buckler: In Portland a couple years ago, a homeless dude got on the bus and sat right behind me. The guy absolutely reeked. It was a long-stewing odor of bacterially-fermented sweat, urine, feces, hair oil and whatever the hell he'd been rolling in. People quickly moved away from him, filling all the available seats possible. I was prepared to stick it out, but once my gorge began to rise and I started gagging, I just got off the bus. I felt like I was covered with a physical film of stench. I wish the driver had told his ass to get off the bus.


I used to live in NYC and one of the first things I learned during morning rush hour is that if half a subway car is empty, there a good goddamned reason for it usually involving a pile of vomit, a fragrant homeless guy, or both. If you need to move an exhumed corpse anywhere on the subway system you'll never get caught if you just dress like a hobo and push it in a shopping cart.
 
2012-10-20 10:15:08 PM  
Seattle Metro opened an investigation into the incident and said the driver in question is a 9-year veteran employee with an excellent record, according to KOMO.

Nine years! Imagine the odors that this lady must tolerate on a daily basis. That kid must have smelled really, really bad.
 
2012-10-20 10:16:00 PM  

J Noble Daggett: lohphat: I don't mind kids on planes either if their parents are attentive and deal with any issues promptly.

Once upon a time you didn't see toddlers and babies on planes out of deference to their comfort and that of others. Pressure changes really hurt the ears and its not their fault when they cry. The solution used to be no trips until the kid was 3 or so and could behave and understand how to release the pressure in their ears.

What happened? Cheap fares and lowering of the acceptable behavior bar in public/confined spaces.

When was this time? Is it a special imaginary time? My younger brother had his first airplane flight at the age of 2 months in 1962.
Flying in general was not that common but people flew with babies. My own children frequently flew coast to coast. We were not the only ones. I'd love to know when you think this imaginary time was when babies did not accompany their mothers.


Sorry. Didn't see them as frequently.
 
2012-10-20 10:20:07 PM  
You live in Seattle. You're a mile and a half from your doctor's office. Your baby is sick.

TAKE A farkING CAB.

Save me the whole 'poor mom' excuse. A two-way bus ride in Seattle costs at least $4.50, and two 1& a 1/2 mile trips in a Seattle Yellow cab would cost less than $14, get you there in half the time, prevent you from keeping your sick baby outside in October, and exposing her/him to other folks. I have all the sympathy in the world for single moms, but If less than $10 is an impediment to properly caring for your baby that's a failure of yours, not mine or societies. Even then, I'd be on her side if she weren't demanding that the bus driver be punished with this kind of bloviated over-statement "When you do something wrong - no matter what it is, no matter what circumstance - you need to be punished for that." None of these things are any sort of crime, but they all lend to the feeling that this lady seems more concerned about being personally disrespected than the health of her baby.
 
2012-10-20 10:25:44 PM  

thesloppy: Even then, I'd be on her side if she weren't demanding that the bus driver be punished with this kind of bloviated over-statement "When you do something wrong - no matter what it is, no matter what circumstance - you need to be punished for that." None of these things are any sort of crime, but they all lend to the feeling that this lady seems more concerned about being personally disrespected than the health of her baby.


So much this
 
2012-10-20 10:30:21 PM  
I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.
 
2012-10-20 10:37:03 PM  

hankhorsey: I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.


If you can't handle it I'm sure someone will adopt what you've made so you don't have to deal with both the struggle of parenthood AND people being wrong on the internet.
 
2012-10-20 10:45:21 PM  

hankhorsey: I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.


Cue the "OH LOOK WE MADE A BABBY" apologist that can't parent and think this is all acceptable behavior.

/have a 2/5 year old, change diapers, don't make my problems other people's problems
//you sound mouth-breathery
 
2012-10-20 10:47:07 PM  
"HA HA! I am BABBY momther! I am throw OFF BUS! REVENGE! BABBY to use to punshi da buse drivra!!!"
 
2012-10-20 11:00:34 PM  
Well, too be honest, she doesn't look pregnant.

She's just a gigantic lard ass.
 
2012-10-20 11:05:08 PM  

lohphat: hankhorsey: I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.

Cue the "OH LOOK WE MADE A BABBY" apologist that can't parent and think this is all acceptable behavior.

/have a 2/5 year old, change diapers, don't make my problems other people's problems
//you sound mouth-breathery


So if you got on a bus and your kid crapped his diaper you'd get off the bus immediately and...what? Change the diaper on the sidewalk? Or would you stick it out for a mile and half and keep your appointment? I can't wait to read about all your heroic and selfless parenting moves.

It's PUBLIC transportation. You get subsidized transportation, and in exchange you put up with the crazies and the weirdos and sick babies who shiat their pants.
 
2012-10-20 11:05:26 PM  
I ride the King County bus system (Seattle) and they have done away with the free-ride area downtown (which was implemented as a means to board buses faster and reduce congestion downtown). I guess the free-ride area did move buses faster, but it was inadvertently used to shuttle around loads of homeless and street addicts to their destinations. Having a bum sit next to you on the bus as you are commuting to work can be an unpleasant experience. This is good to only have fare-paying riders on the bus.

But some farking young black people playing their bullshiat music out of their shiatty phones with no earplugs is ridiculous. I always have earbuds in so I'm not subjected to their rudeness and awful music, and pity the older generation of riders who don't use ipods and have to listen to that shiat.

/not racist, culturalist
//fark hip hop
 
2012-10-20 11:19:01 PM  

RenownedCurator: A mile and a half with a sick toddler can be a really, really long walk. And speaking as someone who takes the bus in Seattle almost every day, I refuse to believe that the passengers haven't encountered far worse smells than an ill toddler's diaper.


For the bus driver to kick them off the bus it must have been an extra special horrific stench.
 
2012-10-20 11:19:49 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: If you put the soiled diaper in a dog poopie bag it holds in the smell.

My daughter is almost 3 and isn't potty trained yet. She's just not quite ready to do it.


Mental retardation could be a family trait.
 
2012-10-20 11:25:19 PM  
I am a divorced childfree misanthrope and I'm on the mom's side. Buses are cheap public transit, not a habitat for Speshul Snowflakes. Sometimes a baby's going to have a smelly diaper. Sometimes someone will throw up or fart or break out in flop sweat or a diesel truck next to the bus is going to disgorge a cloud of black smoke. I grew up in NYC and took public transit when NYC was a dangerous and dirty place. I learned to breathe lightly through my mouth when buses and trains were smelly. No one dies from fart smell.
 
2012-10-20 11:39:25 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: bagfed: lohphat: Being civilized and sanitary and respectful of others right to not be inflicted with poop is not being bourgeoisie.

No, its being effete.

And snobbish. And intellectual, too.

[www.boomertoyou.com image 234x312]


grow a penis.


/obscure?
 
2012-10-21 12:24:25 AM  

hankhorsey: lohphat: hankhorsey: I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.

Cue the "OH LOOK WE MADE A BABBY" apologist that can't parent and think this is all acceptable behavior.

/have a 2/5 year old, change diapers, don't make my problems other people's problems
//you sound mouth-breathery

So if you got on a bus and your kid crapped his diaper you'd get off the bus immediately and...what? Change the diaper on the sidewalk? Or would you stick it out for a mile and half and keep your appointment? I can't wait to read about all your heroic and selfless parenting moves.

It's PUBLIC transportation. You get subsidized transportation, and in exchange you put up with the crazies and the weirdos and sick babies who shiat their pants.


This! For all of you telling the mom to buy a car, or take a taxi, you're free to do the same if you don't want to deal with it.
 
2012-10-21 12:30:18 AM  
Why didn't the stupid biatch change her baby's diaper and then catch another bus? At least do it for the kid's sake. Jeeze.
 
2012-10-21 12:33:05 AM  
Love all the morons comparing this to someone wearing too much perfume. Too much perfume isn't a sanitary issue. We're talking about shiat, and we understand how precious your snowflakes are, but your right to inflict your angel on the rest of us ends at our noses and immune systems.
 
2012-10-21 12:36:33 AM  

gulogulo: I'm a dickhead.


FTFY
 
2012-10-21 12:40:04 AM  

gulogulo: We really don't treat these people in our society very well.


That's because they enter places that society owns (like businesses) and berate people until they get bought "gifts" or get given free stuff. Want to be treated well by society? Treat society well.
 
2012-10-21 12:45:54 AM  

hankhorsey: I know all you Farkers have never seen a naked woman, and therefor never made a baby, but you're stinking up this thread and I think you should all STFU and GTFO.Being a new parent is hard enough without having deal with dumbasses like you.


So why'd she get herself pregnant again, if it was already "hard enough" for her? She damn well knows how babies are made by the time the first one comes along.
 
2012-10-21 01:20:51 AM  
Human decency is dead.

/that is all
 
2012-10-21 02:35:24 AM  
Babies and very young children do not belong on public transit especially if they are sick. Call a cab or a friend. It'll be easier on the baby, you, and the potential fellow passengers.
 
2012-10-21 02:35:42 AM  

El Brujo: /not racist, culturalist
//fark hip hop


No, I remember your name from before, pretty sure it's the first one.
 
2012-10-21 03:01:33 AM  
Conservatives refuse to acknowledge that people who are unable to take responsibility for themselves are still humans.

Liberals refuse to concede that people who are unable to take responsibility for themselves shouldn't be allowed to produce offspring.

I have a compromise that goes something like this; If you ask the government will give you a reasonable (just above poverty level) amount of money to live on from cradle to grave, but the price for accepting that money is regular birth control treatments administered by a medical professional (or certification that you are unable to produce offspring).
 
2012-10-21 03:14:29 AM  

Fark It: Love all the morons comparing this to someone wearing too much perfume. Too much perfume isn't a sanitary issue. We're talking about shiat, and we understand how precious your snowflakes are, but your right to inflict your angel on the rest of us ends at our noses and immune systems.


You know nothing. You smell very small molecules. Bacteria are huge. More than a billion times larger. They are not airborn via a dirty diaper. Whatever disgust you feel from your latent issues with your own potty training, your immune system is not at risk from the smell of a babe that drops a load. Your attitude is as irrational as you "science".

Parents, see what happens when you screw up potty training? Poopy diapers are funny. Laugh.
 
2012-10-21 04:03:58 AM  

LemSkroob: TheGreatGazoo: If you put the soiled diaper in a dog poopie bag it holds in the smell.

My daughter is almost 3 and isn't potty trained yet. She's just not quite ready to do it.

Mental retardation could be a family trait.


Ha, my niece realized, about potty training time, what ultimate power she had over the rest of us by refusing to exercise control over her bowels. All the promise of pretty undies, going potty like a big girl, no more poopy diapies...it was nothing to her because all the adults around her were begging her to learn to use the toilet. "But I like poopy diapies," she said coolly at one point.

My sister finally gave up and started ignoring her. My niece was potty trained within a week.
 
2012-10-21 04:10:30 AM  

A. Snatchfold: El Brujo: /not racist, culturalist
//fark hip hop

No, I remember your name from before, pretty sure it's the first one.


If I were racist, I would hold the belief that I am of a superior race than others. I don't. I do think that prevailing black American culture sucks.
 
2012-10-21 04:30:36 AM  

El Brujo: A. Snatchfold: El Brujo: /not racist, culturalist
//fark hip hop

No, I remember your name from before, pretty sure it's the first one.

If I were racist, I would hold the belief that I am of a superior race than others. I don't. I do think that prevailing black American culture sucks.


I think you are confusing 'culture' with stereotypes, and believing the stereotype is indeed the actual 'culture'. As most people do.
 
2012-10-21 05:08:29 AM  



1.bp.blogspot.com

 
2012-10-21 05:51:36 AM  
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
 
2012-10-21 06:25:48 AM  

Pattuq: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.


She had a need, to make a doctor's appointment for her child. They had desire - not to be offended by said child for a few minutes.

So should the desires of many outweigh the need of one? Seriously, that's some farked up shiat.
 
2012-10-21 07:51:17 AM  
Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.

Given the driver's length of service, I think its reasonable to assume the smell was pretty bad.

You live in Seattle. This isn't Manhatten or even San Francisco - lots and lots of people have cars. You have a sick infant, and you're pregnant, and you couldn't find *anybody* to drive you to the doctor? Its possible, but it seems rather likely she either didn't put in the effort to plan very well, or she's alienated everyone who knows her so thoroughly they won't even drive her sick infant to the doc.

That's some seriously poor social skills.

Yeah, if its enough to make people retch, you need to get off the bus. Not all that difficult to find a public restroom and change the kid, in most areas. Or call a cab. Or walk.

You're poor, and you have a baby. That entails a certain amount of sympathy and extra leeway from society, but it isn't unlimited. When you're making me literally gag, unless its an emergency, you're over the line.

The homeless guy who smells? Might not have an alternative. The idiot wearing too much perfume? Not the same as feces, though if its bad enough, I have no problem with a driver telling them they're not boarding.
 
2012-10-21 08:06:48 AM  

MisterRonbo: Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.

Given the driver's length of service, I think its reasonable to assume the smell was pretty bad.

You live in Seattle. This isn't Manhatten or even San Francisco - lots and lots of people have cars. You have a sick infant, and you're pregnant, and you couldn't find *anybody* to drive you to the doctor? Its possible, but it seems rather likely she either didn't put in the effort to plan very well, or she's alienated everyone who knows her so thoroughly they won't even drive her sick infant to the doc.

That's some seriously poor social skills.

Yeah, if its enough to make people retch, you need to get off the bus. Not all that difficult to find a public restroom and change the kid, in most areas. Or call a cab. Or walk.

You're poor, and you have a baby. That entails a certain amount of sympathy and extra leeway from society, but it isn't unlimited. When you're making me literally gag, unless its an emergency, you're over the line.

The homeless guy who smells? Might not have an alternative. The idiot wearing too much perfume? Not the same as feces, though if its bad enough, I have no problem with a driver telling them they're not boarding.


That's a whole lot of conjecture about what kind of person she is. Based on the facts of what we have alone, she had to take the bus. That's all we know. Not if people were retching or people were literally gagging. Not if she had people she could call.
 
2012-10-21 10:17:23 AM  
I just spent a coast to coast flight sitting next to a woman like this with her fat ass husband and their precious little shiat machine. I am not only ok with this I farking applaud this driver and demand she be given a raise and an award.

Fark you parents who drag your babies and toddlers everywhere and demand that we just put up with you. I hope you die.
 
2012-10-21 10:53:21 AM  

gulogulo: lohphat: No. I travel a lot and don't see the sort of selfish "whatever I do at home I can do in public" childish behavior. If that's "bourgeoisie" to you then so is indoor plumbing and sanitary toilets by your standards.

Yes. Those are, to someone who may be riding the bus who you just are so delicate that you just can't stand to be next to, those might in fact be very bourgeoisie. Or would you prefer we just erase the homeless from public existence? Or the poor who take the bus with their kids and have kids that oh my god, you poor flower, just soiled their diapers forcing YOU..poor YOU to stand next to them for a whole ..five minutes. I mean you poor thing. Why is no one thinking of YOUR needs in all of this, right?


ooookaaaaaaayyyyy... let's slow your roll down here a little bit.

you're going to need to recognize the fact that if a mother of two is living without water/plumbing in an american city in modern times, that's not her "doing without the bourgeoisie" or some such. that's her raising children in a dangerously poor (and i'm referring to quality, here) environment.

regardless of your opinion of the matter as a whole, please don't be trying to claim that someone who would be raising children in a first-world country without plumbing is anything other than note-worthily sub-standard even if the parent(s) is not to blame.
 
2012-10-21 11:00:28 AM  

Rik01: I'm not sure which is worse, riding a bus with a reeking kid or walking through a wet parking lot, after a summer rain on a hot day and having to jog around the inevitable, disposable, used diapers pigs have dropped out of their cars, to simmer in the puddles.


WHAT? What hellhole do you live in that people think it is appropriate to toss soiled diapers out the window like cigarette butts?
 
2012-10-21 11:12:55 AM  

Heliodorus: Rik01: I'm not sure which is worse, riding a bus with a reeking kid or walking through a wet parking lot, after a summer rain on a hot day and having to jog around the inevitable, disposable, used diapers pigs have dropped out of their cars, to simmer in the puddles.

WHAT? What hellhole do you live in that people think it is appropriate to toss soiled diapers out the window like cigarette butts?


We have that around my hometown. Self-important tourists, mostly; folks who went vacationing with the kids, are "miles" away from a trash can, states away from anyone that they know, and just dump it as quickly as possible. Hey, I remember my own folks doing it when I was very little, when they were dealing with my baby sisters. It's not uncommon, just tends to involve people outside of their home area (unless they're REALLY farked up people).

I'm sorry, is this when someone's gonna jump down my throat for belittling the poor parents that bravely dump diapers on the side of the street?

/i keeeeeed, i keeeeeeed
 
2012-10-21 11:25:18 AM  

gulogulo: MisterRonbo: Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.

Given the driver's length of service, I think its reasonable to assume the smell was pretty bad.

You live in Seattle. This isn't Manhatten or even San Francisco - lots and lots of people have cars. You have a sick infant, and you're pregnant, and you couldn't find *anybody* to drive you to the doctor? Its possible, but it seems rather likely she either didn't put in the effort to plan very well, or she's alienated everyone who knows her so thoroughly they won't even drive her sick infant to the doc.

That's some seriously poor social skills.

Yeah, if its enough to make people retch, you need to get off the bus. Not all that difficult to find a public restroom and change the kid, in most areas. Or call a cab. Or walk.

You're poor, and you have a baby. That entails a certain amount of sympathy and extra leeway from society, but it isn't unlimited. When you're making me literally gag, unless its an emergency, you're over the line.

The homeless guy who smells? Might not have an alternative. The idiot wearing too much perfume? Not the same as feces, though if its bad enough, I have no problem with a driver telling them they're not boarding.

That's a whole lot of conjecture about what kind of person she is. Based on the facts of what we have alone, she had to take the bus. That's all we know. Not if people were retching or people were literally gagging. Not if she had people she could call.


Allow me to clear up the conjecture.
I know this woman I won't say how but I know her.

I call the bus driver a hero. The woman is a fowl mouthed psycho example of what is wrong with public assistance.
She has 4 kids, want to know where the other 3 are? They are in NY where they were taken away by child protective services. She tried to get custody back of the first, when the other 2 were taken away. Her lawyer (paid for with your tax dollars) was given a bit of a dress down by the judge as to how he though she could get custody back of a child when 2 were taken away 2 months prior.
She cares so much about them that she went to the other side of the country because the benefits are better there. All 3 children are in various therapy programs because they were abused and severely neglected by her and the various fathers (1 every time they located him to garnish child support he would quit his job after the first check showed the deduction and move on). However the child protective services of the various states do not communicate so her current child and future child will not be taken away until a report is made (which is just a matter of time).

It wouldn't surprise me if the kid hadn't "just" soiled his diaper but the same diaper had been on for hours in need of a change, because she couldn't be bothered to change him.
She gets the transportation for free, she could have gotten off the bus, changed him then gotten on the next one. As for no discipline for the bus driver, the company wouldn't have to look hard to find Nicole's background and realize any discipline could be easily challenged by the bus driver.
 
2012-10-21 12:01:01 PM  

A. Snatchfold: El Brujo: A. Snatchfold: El Brujo: /not racist, culturalist
//fark hip hop

No, I remember your name from before, pretty sure it's the first one.

If I were racist, I would hold the belief that I am of a superior race than others. I don't. I do think that prevailing black American culture sucks.

I think you are confusing 'culture' with stereotypes, and believing the stereotype is indeed the actual 'culture'. As most people do.


fair enough
 
2012-10-21 02:19:12 PM  
Isn't that why we have the buses? To keep society's shiat in?
 
2012-10-21 05:03:55 PM  

MisterRonbo: Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.


Except that's not true. You're trained to act that way, often by parents who said things about dirty dirty diapers from before you even remember. The world is a big place. If you travel you might observe that all people don't share your view. Most can laugh a a pungent poop. Grow up on a farm and you understand the smells of "nature". But mostly, don't invent these lies about how we evolved to defend your precious little faults.
 
2012-10-21 06:09:03 PM  

J Noble Daggett: MisterRonbo: Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.


Except that's not true. You're trained to act that way, often by parents who said things about dirty dirty diapers from before you even remember. The world is a big place. If you travel you might observe that all people don't share your view. Most can laugh a a pungent poop. Grow up on a farm and you understand the smells of "nature". But mostly, don't invent these lies about how we evolved to defend your precious little faults.


Its a fact that many species of mammal innately avoid the feces of their own species. From an evolutionary point of view, its pretty obvious why, as it is a good source of disease. That's why it doesn't carry over on the farm: different species.

Behavior around feces has a huge variance across even closely related species, primates being a good example. Some gorillas eat one another's excrement, but in humans that would be a pretty bad idea. So I can understand your confusion.

Pro-tip: When someone cites science, google up the actual science before ridiculing them and calling them a liar. Its saved me from looking like a dick quite a few times.
 
2012-10-21 06:17:22 PM  

MisterRonbo: J Noble Daggett: MisterRonbo: Humans evolved to really, really want to avoid feces. The smell makes us gag, even vomit. This is different from strong smelling perfume or body odor. *If* the smell is powerful enough, it will literally make some people get sick on the spot, and start hurling.


Except that's not true. You're trained to act that way, often by parents who said things about dirty dirty diapers from before you even remember. The world is a big place. If you travel you might observe that all people don't share your view. Most can laugh a a pungent poop. Grow up on a farm and you understand the smells of "nature". But mostly, don't invent these lies about how we evolved to defend your precious little faults.

Its a fact that many species of mammal innately avoid the feces of their own species. From an evolutionary point of view, its pretty obvious why, as it is a good source of disease. That's why it doesn't carry over on the farm: different species.

Behavior around feces has a huge variance across even closely related species, primates being a good example. Some gorillas eat one another's excrement, but in humans that would be a pretty bad idea. So I can understand your confusion.

Pro-tip: When someone cites science, google up the actual science before ridiculing them and calling them a liar. Its saved me from looking like a dick quite a few times.


Cite the scientific research then chief. But don't give me your arm chair evolution and expect me to buy it.
 
2012-10-21 06:35:36 PM  
UPDATE PASSENGERS SET POOPED_PANTS=1 WHERE POOPER=1
DELETE FROM BUS WHERE POOPER=1
 
2012-10-21 07:52:27 PM  
Good job lady! You can't watch 1/2 a mile but your crotchfruit will keep you in lawsuits & entitlement for the rest of your days.
 
2012-10-21 08:39:10 PM  

thelunatick:

Allow me to clear up the conjecture.
I know this woman I won't say how but I know her.

I call the bus driver a hero. The woman is a fowl mouthed psycho example of what is wrong with public assistance.
She has 4 kids, want to know where the other 3 are? They are in NY where they we ...


If that's true, that made me lose what sympathy I had for the mother.
 
2012-10-21 09:00:47 PM  
She knew what she was getting into. She could have chosen not to have the baby, she had the option of condoms and abortions but instead she went through with it and now she has to take eeeeeeeeeverything that goes with it. At the end of the day it all comes down to a choice.
 
2012-10-21 09:20:57 PM  

leonel: She knew what she was getting into. She could have chosen not to have the baby, she had the option of condoms and abortions but instead she went through with it and now she has to take eeeeeeeeeverything that goes with it. At the end of the day it all comes down to a choice.


This is why the GOP is against contraception and abortions. Without this demographic of unplanned and unmanaged children and reliance on further assistance, they lose a rallying cry for their racist constituents.

When women are allowed to control when/if they want kids, education improves and crime lowers.

The GOP can't stand for that to happen.
 
2012-10-22 01:09:29 AM  

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: brimed03: With the exception of gulogulo, y'all are farking shatholes. You'd be the first ones to criticize the woman for not taking her sick child to the doc if the story was about her kid dying.

Her kid was sick. She took him to the doctor's like a good parent. The child shat after getting on the bus-- as sick children will do.

You have no right to criticize her for anything else based on facts not in evidence. Maybe she's a welfare queen taking her second-check baby to the doctor. Maybe she's a working mom who gave up her car so she could afford to take in her dead sister's kid. Fark you all for assuming the worst about people.

And fark you for being such selfish d*cks that you'd kick a pregnant lady off a bus because your precious snowflake nose is "offended." Fark you. Shatholes.

Whooah... there, Junior... let's calm down, take a breath and back the retard bus up because it seems you have missed your stop.

Speaking of which, is that you in this picture:


*yawn*
-1/10
 
2012-10-22 03:09:59 AM  

J Noble Daggett:
MisterRonbo: Pro-tip: When someone cites science, google up the actual science before ridiculing them and calling them a liar. Its saved me from looking like a dick quite a few times.

Cite the scientific research then chief. But don't give me your arm chair evolution and expect me to buy it.


Oh dear, not able to look it up yourself. Seriously?

Google: instinct to avoid excrement of their own species
Take the very first result, which is a New York Times article on how we raise meat

Many animals' instinctive aversion to their own feces and to the carcasses of their species may represent similar strategies to avoid infectious microbes and parasites.

Let me guess: you also think humans have a taboo against cannibalism only because their mommies and daddies told them it was bad, and not for reasons that resulted from natural selection.

See pro-tip above. Especially for something like this, which isn't even counter-intuitive.
 
2012-10-22 04:01:32 AM  

MisterRonbo: J Noble Daggett:
MisterRonbo: Pro-tip: When someone cites science, google up the actual science before ridiculing them and calling them a liar. Its saved me from looking like a dick quite a few times.

Cite the scientific research then chief. But don't give me your arm chair evolution and expect me to buy it.

Oh dear, not able to look it up yourself. Seriously?

Google: instinct to avoid excrement of their own species
Take the very first result, which is a New York Times article on how we raise meat

Many animals' instinctive aversion to their own feces and to the carcasses of their species may represent similar strategies to avoid infectious microbes and parasites.

Let me guess: you also think humans have a taboo against cannibalism only because their mommies and daddies told them it was bad, and not for reasons that resulted from natural selection.

See pro-tip above. Especially for something like this, which isn't even counter-intuitive.


In fact, I'm very able to look it up and find nothing legitimate. A New York Times article is not scientific research. I can easily find psychological studies that make claims like you made but nothing that equals scientific research. Instead, it's just unsubstantiated assertions. Your own earlier comments that there is great diversity in primates regarding coprophagy is your first clue that it isn't a legitimately evolved instinct. Gorillas for instance, have no deep aversion to their own feces and are in fact coprophagous. Chimps, both standard chimps and bonobos, have no deep set aversion to their own feces. They find it quite funny to fling them about. None of our closest primate relatives shows this "evolved" aversion you claim. It is further observed that this claimed aversion does not exist across human cultures. I find no legitimate biological evidence that humans have an innate, evolved disgust of feces as you claimed. I've published in the scientific literature on evolution and on human sensory science (separately, not the evolution of human sensory attributes). I know the difference between legitimate claims of evolution and hopeful "just so" stories. I also know that a great deal of human sensory response is learned.

Add to that, I've potty trained kids and seen others potty train kids, including watching people do it wrong. Doing it wrong has a very strange side effect. It turns out that a significant number of cases of adults severely beating infants surrounds adults who can't handle kids pooping. They get horribly made at a kid for doing what they can't avoid.

"more abuse occurs during toilet training than during any other developmental step".American Academy of Pediatricians

So this isn't just a case of silly internet back and forth. The position you are advocating sits behind a very real problem, adults who have an over-developed sense of disgust with poop. The very real truth is that this leads some of take their frustration and anger out on children who cannot avoid pooping. The good news is, humans can get over bad potty training and learn that you don't get germs from smelling poop and can easily wash your own hands after changing a poopy diaper. You don't need to be a victim of how you were treated as an infant. Get over yourself and learn to laugh.
 
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