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2012-10-20 04:21:30 PM  
Colman's mother, Jennifer Chadam, told the San Francisco Chronicle she listed Colman's genetic condition on his school health form.

Do not list genetic conditions on school health forms unless you want your kid to be treated like someone who actually has the disease associated with those genes.
 
2012-10-20 04:22:29 PM  

Tyrosine: Even if the lung infection risk were legitimate, and looking at the literature it real dubious, this is still false logic: 1 in 28 caucasians carry at least one of the many known mutations in the CFTR gene that lead to cystic fibrosis. Given that frequency CF sufferers encounter hetrozygous carriers multiple times per day (the vast majority of carriers would not even know are carriers), meaning any benefit the child with CF would receive is negligible.

Also, does the kid with CF have siblings? If so, each has a 50% chance of being a carrier. Are they segregated from him as well?


Not to mention both of his parents are carriers.
 
2012-10-20 04:26:14 PM  

Petorian Guard: Not to mention both of his parents are carriers.


Correct.
 
2012-10-20 04:31:56 PM  
Sounds to me like he is more of a threat to his own offspring than any of his peers.
 
2012-10-20 04:41:45 PM  

Lachwen: TheOther: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.

That's not how cystic fibrosis works. The kid will never "get" CF. You're either born with full-blown CF or you're not, and if you're born without it you will never get it. Carriers can pass on the gene for it, and if they fark another carrier their kid might have CF, but that's it.


the idea is that cf carriers have reduced cftr function and therefore are more likely to harbor organisms that, if the cf patient gets, has the potential to drastically reduce the cf patient's health. The kid in the article is at no risk. The other kid at the school might be, theoretically, but mostly this seems like bs. The idea of separating cf kids is a good one. Many cf patients have been colonized as a result of large cf clinics (they are now designed better with filtration to reduce such risks) and cf events (fund raisers, camps ect).
 
2012-10-20 04:45:41 PM  

Tyrosine: Even if the lung infection risk were legitimate, and looking at the literature it real dubious, this is still false logic: 1 in 28 caucasians carry at least one of the many known mutations in the CFTR gene that lead to cystic fibrosis. Given that frequency CF sufferers encounter hetrozygous carriers multiple times per day (the vast majority of carriers would not even know are carriers), meaning any benefit the child with CF would receive is negligible.

Also, does the kid with CF have siblings? If so, each has a 50% chance of being a carrier. Are they segregated from him as well?


your math is off.1/4 cf 1/2 carrier 1/4 normal. If his sibling doesn't have cf their is a 2/3 chance they carry the gene
 
2012-10-20 04:50:23 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: White people problems

/amidoingitrite?



funny thing though- even though wikipedia says it's mostly white people that have the condition, they show a picture of a black girl with c.f..

'sup with that?
 
2012-10-20 04:53:59 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: Lachwen: TheOther: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.

That's not how cystic fibrosis works. The kid will never "get" CF. You're either born with full-blown CF or you're not, and if you're born without it you will never get it. Carriers can pass on the gene for it, and if they fark another carrier their kid might have CF, but that's it.

the idea is that cf carriers have reduced cftr function and therefore are more likely to harbor organisms that, if the cf patient gets, has the potential to drastically reduce the cf patient's health. The kid in the article is at no risk. The other kid at the school might be, theoretically, but mostly this seems like bs. The idea of separating cf kids is a good one. Many cf patients have been colonized as a result of large cf clinics (they are now designed better with filtration to reduce such risks) and cf events (fund raisers, camps ect).


And, again, as stated in TFA, the man in charge of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation Burkholderia cepacia Research Laboratory and Repository at the University of Michigan says that it's not really that big of a deal:

However, LiPuma said, with proper hygiene, it's highly unlikely that any infection will occur, even if students come in close contact.

"These people do not have CF and should not be treated differently based on having a single gene," said LiPuma. "To do otherwise is simply acting contrary to facts, borne out of ignorance or malice."


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that Dr. John LiPuma knows more about the actual risks faced by cystic fibrosis patients and carriers than the school administration does.
 
2012-10-20 04:55:02 PM  
For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?
 
2012-10-20 05:01:27 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: Tyrosine: Even if the lung infection risk were legitimate, and looking at the literature it real dubious, this is still false logic: 1 in 28 caucasians carry at least one of the many known mutations in the CFTR gene that lead to cystic fibrosis. Given that frequency CF sufferers encounter hetrozygous carriers multiple times per day (the vast majority of carriers would not even know are carriers), meaning any benefit the child with CF would receive is negligible.

Also, does the kid with CF have siblings? If so, each has a 50% chance of being a carrier. Are they segregated from him as well?

your math is off.1/4 cf 1/2 carrier 1/4 normal. If his sibling doesn't have cf their is a 2/3 chance they carry the gene


I was referring to the calculated chance not knowing any of the phenotypes for the sake of illustrating a point. I agree, you can eliminate all homozygote recessives from the equation since their genotype is known.

The real point here is that transferring the carrier to another school serves no purpose/
 
2012-10-20 05:02:05 PM  
I see a lot of derpy derp in here from the "AHH CHRISTIANS BAD, SCIENCE GOOD" crowd who obviously don't possess the reading skills to look through and understand that it's all about science in the article.

30 seconds people. 30 seconds and you wouldn't have looked like an idiot.
 
2012-10-20 05:03:19 PM  

clipperbox: the_vegetarian_cannibal: White people problems

/amidoingitrite?


funny thing though- even though wikipedia says it's mostly white people that have the condition, they show a picture of a black girl with c.f..

'sup with that?


Racism.
 
2012-10-20 05:04:00 PM  
Seems like Mommy listed the info so her snowflake would be even MORE special, and is now dealing with the blowback.

/NEVER share that kind of info
 
2012-10-20 05:07:06 PM  
Yay GATTACA! Here we go!
 
2012-10-20 05:08:55 PM  

epoch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?


You (and the school) got the derp backwards. The boy being kicked out is the one who's "at risk"; the other boy already has the disease. To spell it out for you, the kicked-out boy is perfectly healthy but at risk of catching the disease from the cystic fibrosis carrier who is already attending the school. But the thing is that the risk isn't all that high if the two kids keep a reasonable distance and practice good hygiene.

The mutation is common - so common that many other kids in the school also have it. They just don't know it. And now in the future those who know they have it but aren't sick probably won't disclose it because they know the school is going to over-react.
 
2012-10-20 05:18:06 PM  

baltimoreblonde: Seems like Mommy listed the info so her snowflake would be even MORE special, and is now dealing with the blowback.

/NEVER share that kind of info


Should've just listed him as a Cherokee.
 
2012-10-20 05:35:44 PM  
School absolutely cannot win, no matter what they do. CF is a pretty brutal and sometimes unpredictable condition. If the kid with active CF suddenly has a bad episode or his condition gets worse, the school will not be able to prove that it WASN'T from cross-contamination from the carrier. They will be sued right into the ground by upset parents claiming the school didn't care enough to keep their son safe.

Instead, they're being sued into the ground by a different set of parents because they did what they're supposed to do - listen to the advice of a doctor who told them the most effective way to minimize risk. Now, if the medical advice they got is shiat, then there's a doctor who needs to get fired from his advisory capacity. But they really haven't done anything malicious or stupid.
 
2012-10-20 05:40:48 PM  

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


Yes.

ONE paper does not make it standard practice. Want another example? Look around the vitamin shelves at the Condroitin/Glucosamine snake oil proposing that taking it will save your joints. There was only ONE study that showed a miniscule delta between those taking the compounds and the control group. IIRC there have been no follow-up studies yet sheeple continue to drain their wallets and swallow what amounts to a placebo.

I work in Palo Alto. It's a hotbed of 1%-er entitlement and zero tolerance stupidity to protect the snowflakes of the nouveau riche.

A hefty lawsuit will realign school policy.
 
2012-10-20 05:51:52 PM  

clipperbox: the_vegetarian_cannibal: White people problems

/amidoingitrite?


funny thing though- even though wikipedia says it's mostly white people that have the condition, they show a picture of a black girl with c.f..

'sup with that?


Honkeys in the woodshed.
 
2012-10-20 05:56:15 PM  
God I'm glad the school I went to didn't have its head that far up its own ass. Got annoying having to stop by the nurse's office every day before lunch to pick up the dose of enzymes I need to make eating worth anything though, but that was pretty minor.

/age 30, has CF
//at least one other student at my high school also had it
 
2012-10-20 06:18:29 PM  

FormlessOne: There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.


inigomontoya.jpg

One paper is not "enough".
 
2012-10-20 06:19:31 PM  

clipperbox: the_vegetarian_cannibal: White people problems

/amidoingitrite?


funny thing though- even though wikipedia says it's mostly white people that have the condition, they show a picture of a black girl with c.f..

'sup with that?


Inclusiveness. Don't want black people feeling left out of the CF fun.
 
2012-10-20 06:32:16 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: maybe he should get aids

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It's spelled aides, you retard.
 
2012-10-20 06:39:42 PM  

epoch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?


I suppose I might share your... concern.
 
2012-10-20 07:06:15 PM  

lohphat: FormlessOne: There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

inigomontoya.jpg

One paper is not "enough".


I can't even find that one paper. The only one published by the cited doc in 2003 has to do with CF patients in a hospital setting. Doesn't seem related to CF gene carriers.

The school should lose on this one. There is no rational basis for fearing that a gene is infectious.
 
2012-10-20 07:24:20 PM  

turbidum: Jon iz teh kewl: maybe he should get aids

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It's spelled aides, you retard.


No, I think you mean Ayds...

harryallen.info
 
2012-10-20 07:36:12 PM  
Nobody is a 'carrier' of cystic fibrosis. To be a 'carrier' means you have vectors of a contagious disease without symptoms of that disease. Cystic fibrosis is not contagious, so this kid is not a 'carrier'.
 
2012-10-20 07:40:16 PM  
My take on what happened:

Principal: Does your son have any medical conditions?
Mother: Yes, he is a carrier of the cystic fibrosis mutation
Principal: Is he taking medication or something for it?
Mother: No.
Principal: Okay...

The mother leaves, and the principal goes to the school nurse

Principal: Is there any reason the school needs to know if a child is a carrier for cystic fibrosis?
Nurse: Not that I know of.
Principal: Well there has to be something. Why else woulkd a parent bother notifying the school?
Nurse: Google?

They go to a computer and google "medical concerns for carriers of cystic fibrosis" and find some articles saying carriers of cystic fibrosis are normal children with a slightly higher risk of developing lung infections. That risk may be increased if there is contact with a child who has cystic fibrosis. Therefore, carriers and those affected with the disease should not be in the classroom or within three feet of each other.

Principal: Ohh... She must told us so that we could separate her son from the kid who has cystic fibrosis. Too bad the kid with CF was here first. Oh well...
 
2012-10-20 08:00:55 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: Steal a valid ID, and sleep with Uma Thurman

WIN WIN


Came for the Gatteca reference, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-10-20 08:04:20 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.


Ummm, this is in Palo Alto, arguably one of the most scientifically educated and atheist communities in the US.

The headline (of the article and this thread) are being sensationalistic, the actual issue was that having multiple kids with CF is a danger (to each other) and the other kid was there first.
 
2012-10-20 08:08:45 PM  

kevinatilusa: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

If (as noted above) 4% of the population of European-descent is a carrier, this policy sets an effective limit of an average of 25 white kids per middle school.

My guess is it's the equivalent of "OMG! Someone could get hurt playing outside! Better cancel recess!"


It is, pretty much.

They have one student with CF. This student (the one transferred) has the CF gene and is at risk for it becoming activated, which it could be if he's exposed to an active CF infection.

The school, in it's infinite paranoia and terror of lawsuits, decided the best way to prevent any danger was not to put the kids in different classrooms, but instead was to put them in different schools. I'm sure that if they could, they would put them in different states.

The other alternative would be to have the transferred kid's mom have signed a waiver saying she accepted the risk...but we know that would never have worked.
 
2012-10-20 08:35:45 PM  

jabelar: JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.

Ummm, this is in Palo Alto, arguably one of the most scientifically educated and atheist communities in the US.

The headline (of the article and this thread) are being sensationalistic, the actual issue was that having multiple kids with CF is a danger (to each other) and the other kid was there first.


So we build a new school for each kid based upon ONE paper in the subject?

What are the odds the kid gets in a car wreck to/from school vs some infection that they could get on a bus or at the movies from another unknown CF carrier?

Humans really can't evaluate risk potentials very well in daily life. They'd rather get in a car than on a plane because they feel safer.

/derp
 
2012-10-20 08:44:18 PM  
Setting most of the bs aside about the carrier vs the expressor.....will not the little lambs (CF) full expression be "exposed" to all the other snot nosed urchins with shiat stained hands, pneumonia laden breath and of course who could forget the haemophilus species of doom? Yes, lets ban everyone from the school except for the two "precious's"
 
2012-10-20 08:52:20 PM  
CF full expression folks are gonna die...much sooner than the general population......and usually a much more miserable death too...........How are you gonna legislate, isolate, and pc this?

Everybody takes there chances in this lottery......some get better deals than others....so if you catch lets say the fungal meningitis by taking steroids and your brains are being eaten by fungal zombies....well .....really what can you do?????

If a CF kid catches a cold and has an exponentially greater chance for a higher morbidity and mortality rate......seriously...what the eff you going to do???

Awwww shiat, just go cry at the kids funeral cursing god...in a few years.....
 
2012-10-20 09:09:59 PM  

Gyrfalcon: This student (the one transferred) has the CF gene and is at risk for it becoming activated, which it could be if he's exposed to an active CF infection.


This is fractally wrong.
 
2012-10-20 09:22:36 PM  

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


I did, but I'm exhuasted and having trouble following it.

Is it that he's got the full blown version, and the other kid (who was there first) doesn't and so would be at risk with this second kid coming in?

...'cause that would make sense.
 
2012-10-20 09:39:42 PM  
The school admin dude is waaaay beyond stoopid.

CF is a recessive genetic mutation. Both parents must have the gene and produce an offspring. The product of their union has a 1:4 chance of actually having the disease; a 2:4 chance of being a "carrier;" and a 1:4 chance of being neither a carrier nor having the disease. You cannot catch it. It isn't a virus. It's not bacterial. It's genetic. The kid who has the disease simply has the disease. Another student who happens to carry the recessive trait will have no impact on this unless he impregnates the other student who has the disease.

Somebody needs to take a course in remedial biology.

Sheesh.
 
2012-10-20 09:57:52 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: Gyrfalcon: This student (the one transferred) has the CF gene and is at risk for it becoming activated, which it could be if he's exposed to an active CF infection.

This is fractally wrong.


Wrong doesn't even begin to cover the fail here. You can't activate the recessive gene. Kid two does not have it and cannot get it. He won't get sick more often and it would be very unlikely the he poses a risk to the kid with CF.

I expect better, Gyrfalcon.
 
2012-10-20 10:05:52 PM  

epoch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?


If the school has, say, 250 students, then there are already about ten carriers walking around. This one more does not significantly increase his risk.

1 in 25 are carriers. So the CF child is constantly being exposed to carriers. If this is a concern for the parents, then it is their child who needs to be isolated. Which would be a damned shame.

Isolated from them (the parents) too, as they are both carriers.
 
2012-10-20 10:09:34 PM  

hankhorsey: ch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?

You (and the school) got the derp backwards. The boy being kicked out is the one who's "at risk"; the other boy already has the disease. To spell it out for you, the kicked-out boy is perfectly healthy but at risk of catching the disease from the cystic fibrosis carrier who is already attending the school. But the thing is that the risk isn't all that high if the two kids keep a reasonable distance and practice good hygiene.


No. No he's not. You can't catch CF. He is a carrier. He will never have CF.

TFA is discussing secondary bacterial infections, NOT CF.
 
2012-10-20 10:09:41 PM  

epoch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?


I would recognize that the risk is negligible, and write it off as such. To do otherwise in the face of such tiny numbers would be nothing but cowardice: a service to no one.
 
2012-10-20 10:52:45 PM  

namegoeshere: hankhorsey: ch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?

You (and the school) got the derp backwards. The boy being kicked out is the one who's "at risk"; the other boy already has the disease. To spell it out for you, the kicked-out boy is perfectly healthy but at risk of catching the disease from the cystic fibrosis carrier who is already attending the school. But the thing is that the risk isn't all that high if the two kids keep a reasonable distance and practice good hygiene.

No. No he's not. You can't catch CF. He is a carrier. He will never have CF.

TFA is discussing secondary bacterial infections, NOT CF.


correct. The risk is that the carrier may have enough lung disfunction that he can be colonized by atypical bacteria. These atypical bacteria do not cause him any disease but if spread to a cf patient who has a much greater diminishment in cftr activity will have serious complications. However the problem with this is there is already probably several kids in the school who are carriers without knowing it. plus we have no idea if the kid being banned is colonized or not, just that it is more likely due to his genetics. The school district is being incredibly dumb which makes me wonder if somehow the cf student's parents are somehow behind this.
 
2012-10-20 11:21:34 PM  
Have the parents sign a hold harmless agreement & be done with it.

Though I have to say....everyone screaming how stupid this is would be the first screaming that the school didn't do enough if something should happen.
 
2012-10-20 11:31:04 PM  

jabelar: JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.

Ummm, this is in Palo Alto, arguably one of the most scientifically educated and atheist communities in the US.

The headline (of the article and this thread) are being sensationalistic, the actual issue was that having multiple kids with CF is a danger (to each other) and the other kid was there first.


The kid being transferred DOES NOT HAVE CF!
 
2012-10-21 05:36:16 AM  

Anastacya: Employers can't legally ask you about your medical conditions during an interview, why should a school have that information?


Not sure if people on this thread are idiots or ... yes, yes they are.

The school has a legal obligation to ensure the safety of the students. Of course they need to be informed if say.. you have a communicable disease or any serious medical condition. Parents generally offer that to school administration before having children attend since the school is assuming supervision because it would literally endanger the safety of their child to not do so. The state would rightly have child protective services deem a parent unfit, for putting their child or other children at risk in the case of withholding vital medical information that resulted in a lethal condition or death due to thinking the school shouldn't have medical information on hand. The civil suit would be a slam dunk.

The fact that there is a genetic trait that makes a disease more likely to be communicable is odd (fark!), but irrelevant to the issue of who is due a public education (both children) and who should be assigned to another school in the district...probably the at risk student since the school has already been appraised and prepared for the existing CF student's condition (including the ability to recognize the risk a genetic trait might pose). This story is a matter of practicality, nothing to do with genetics per se but the administrative complications of a diverse population.

The question is one of degree. Is this overreaction? The kid needs to be separated? Medically, it's advised they should. The school made no determination beyond that, nor is there a need to. It solves the liability problem.
 
2012-10-21 07:23:16 AM  
FTFA for those that need to re-read it.
" While Colman, who has the mutation, may be at higher risk for lung infections, he poses no risk to children without cystic fibrosis or those who do not have the gene for the disease. However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.

Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease, according to a paper published in 2003 by Dr. Lisa Saiman, a professor of clinical pediatrics at Columbia University Medical Center in New York."

Points from this quote:
1. CF carriers are at a higher than normal risk of getting lung infections.
2. Those with CF are also at a higher than normal risk of getting a lung infection.
3. These 2 points infer that since CF carriers and those with CF have a higher than normal chance for infection, it increases the risk for both.

"Carriers and children with cystic fibrosis can attend the same school as long as they are not placed in the same classroom or stay at least three feet away from each other, according to infection control guidelines from the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation."

So instead of following the CF Foundation guidelines, the school decides to transfer the carrier to another school.
School districts with multiple schools have some leeway in cases like this to put kids in another schools for a multitude of reasons. Is this reason an over-reaction? Maybe. What would they have done if there wasn't another middle school in the same district?
 
2012-10-21 08:49:43 AM  

Jack9: The question is one of degree. Is this overreaction? The kid needs to be separated? Medically, it's advised they should.


This is a large school: 1000 students. It's a little more than half caucasian. (Caucasians are more likely to carry the gene or have CF. Others can, though) so let's take 55%, for an argument. 550 students. about 22 of them are carriers. Not to mention staff.

Any school with more than 25 caucasian students will likely expose this kid to at least one carrier. Adding one more carrier to the 22+ already walking around the school does not increase his risk significantly.

Also, if the child should be separated from carriers, then he's going to have to be removed from his family and placed in foster care. His parents are both carriers. His sibs likely are.

This is why I doubt cf kid's parents are behind this nonsense. They will know that they are carriers, and that their child is constantly exposed to carriers.
 
2012-10-21 11:27:19 AM  

Lachwen: I did. I also read all the way to the end, where the director of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation Burkholderia cepacia Research Laboratory and Repository at the University of Michigan said what the school was doing was stupid and not factually based.


THIS. When my husband and I got engaged his CF clinic had me tested for carrier status because I have frequent sinus infections and that's a sign that I might be a carrier. They did the test in case we were thinking of having children. They've told me over and over and over and over and over again that I can't catch the cepacia or psudomonas strains that will eventually kill him, and I also can't pass them to him. This article and school are full of fail.
 
2012-10-21 11:34:29 AM  

epoch_destroi: For all of you in here calling this 'derp'-- if the article were instead about the other CF boy dying because the school did nothing about the risk of having a second carrier in close contact with the school, what would you be saying?

What it were your child at risk?


If my hypothetical kid with CF was wandering around the school with someone diagnosed as having cepacia and I found out that they were wrestling in gym class, I'd be pissed. Since my hypothetical CF child can't catch something from a carrier and my hypothetical CF kid would know to wash hands, cover mouth with elbow, etc. I'd be fine.

My hypothetical CF kid's at more risk of catching bad viruses from your norm kid. You should kick all your normal kids out of school.

/this thread may have hit a nerve, i dunno. ;)
 
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