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2012-10-20 12:22:24 PM
Another school teaching more derp than science?
 
2012-10-20 12:57:07 PM
When they find the other kid that he is suppose to be a risk to, is the other kid going to be kicked out as well?
 
2012-10-20 01:02:28 PM
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I don't know if they're accepting applications.
 
2012-10-20 01:10:31 PM
You know who else forced people out because of their genes?
 
2012-10-20 03:16:52 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-20 03:35:39 PM
www.lolwut.com
 
2012-10-20 03:36:36 PM
This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.
 
2012-10-20 03:38:34 PM

OtherLittleGuy: When they find the other kid that he is suppose to be a risk to, is the other kid going to be kicked out as well?


According to the article that I read earlier, since the other kid was there first, he gets first dibs on being a student in the school. Not to mention that the other kid actually has full-blown cystic fibrosis, while the kid in the article is only a carrier.

Employers can't legally ask you about your medical conditions during an interview, why should a school have that information? I can understand advising the school of a full-blown medical situation (has asthma, carries an epi-pen...), but why on earth do they need to know if you're a carrier of a disease? Talk about a slippery slope.

/you know who else liked to segregate people because of genetic "inferiority"?
//yea I Godwin'd the thread...
 
2012-10-20 03:38:34 PM
"However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?
 
2012-10-20 03:38:57 PM
Getting kicked out over genes would make more sense than jeans.
 
2012-10-20 03:39:08 PM

OtherLittleGuy: When they find the other kid that he is suppose to be a risk to, is the other kid going to be kicked out as well?


That's what makes no sense about this. The kid who doesn't have CF was kicked out because there are already TWO kids with CF in the school!
 
2012-10-20 03:39:25 PM
He got cooties
 
2012-10-20 03:40:19 PM
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease, according to a paper published in 2003 by Dr. Lisa Saiman, a professor of clinical pediatrics at Columbia University Medical Center in New York.

Sorry, religion haters, this bullshiat is based on pure Science.

Of course, the logical conclusion of this is that every cystic fibrosis carrier would have to be treated like a leper, wearing a sign and ringing a bell lest they unwittingly come too close to one another.
 
2012-10-20 03:40:42 PM
As someone who went to school with a boy that had CF, this is utter bullshiat. These people need kicked in the head. Repeatedly and hard. With steel toed boots. With spikes.

RIP Walter Sauerwein, you enriched all our lives.
 
2012-10-20 03:41:32 PM
1/25 people of European descent is a carrier for this disease. Most do not know they are carriers. How in the world is this school going to transfer every single carrier?

Bacterial Cross-Contamination or no, this is logistically untenable.
 
2012-10-20 03:41:42 PM
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
 
2012-10-20 03:42:46 PM
maybe he should get aids

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2012-10-20 03:44:50 PM

JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.


Sounds more like lawyer-induced paranoia to me.
 
2012-10-20 03:44:59 PM

RandomCommenter: 1/25 people of European descent is a carrier for this disease. Most do not know they are carriers. How in the world is this school going to transfer every single carrier?

Bacterial Cross-Contamination or no, this is logistically untenable.


That was my thought. My ex-sister in law found out she was a carrier when she was pregnant at 32.
 
2012-10-20 03:45:27 PM

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


My reaction as well. School isn't work - unfortunately, parents actually expect schools to take care of their kids, and so schools try to minimize risk where they can.

Whether the parents like it or not, their kid is at risk because another kid carries the gene. Keeping them apart minimizes that risk. What's the problem?

mcwehrle: As someone who went to school with a boy that had CF, this is utter bullshiat. These people need kicked in the head. Repeatedly and hard. With steel toed boots. With spikes.

RIP Walter Sauerwein, you enriched all our lives.


Didn't RTFA, eh?

While Colman, who has the mutation, may be at higher risk for lung infections, he poses no risk to children without cystic fibrosis or those who do not have the gene for the disease. However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.

Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease, according to a paper published in 2003 by Dr. Lisa Saiman, a professor of clinical pediatrics at Columbia University Medical Center in New York.


The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.
 
2012-10-20 03:47:18 PM

5monkeys: RandomCommenter: 1/25 people of European descent is a carrier for this disease. Most do not know they are carriers. How in the world is this school going to transfer every single carrier?

Bacterial Cross-Contamination or no, this is logistically untenable.

That was my thought. My ex-sister in law found out she was a carrier when she was pregnant at 32.


And, now that she knows about it, she has some small responsibility, right?

That's the school's case. No, they can't test every kid. However, they know they have two kids in the same location with the CF gene, and so they have some small responsibility in separating them to minimize the clearly identified risk. Makes sense.
 
2012-10-20 03:47:21 PM
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Steal a valid ID, and sleep with Uma Thurman

WIN WIN
 
2012-10-20 03:47:42 PM
Genes? So it would be like catching the ghey or having black rub off on your own lily white skin?
 
2012-10-20 03:48:15 PM

FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.


If (as noted above) 4% of the population of European-descent is a carrier, this policy sets an effective limit of an average of 25 white kids per middle school.

My guess is it's the equivalent of "OMG! Someone could get hurt playing outside! Better cancel recess!"
 
2012-10-20 03:48:26 PM

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


I did. I also read all the way to the end, where the director of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation Burkholderia cepacia Research Laboratory and Repository at the University of Michigan said what the school was doing was stupid and not factually based.
 
2012-10-20 03:50:07 PM

FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.


Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.
 
2012-10-20 03:52:10 PM
White people problems

/amidoingitrite?
 
2012-10-20 03:52:35 PM

FormlessOne:

Didn't RTFA, eh?

While Colman, who has the mutation, may be at higher risk for lung infections, he poses no risk to children without cystic fibrosis or those who do not have the gene for the disease. However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.

Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease, according to a paper published in 2003 by Dr. Lisa Saiman, a professor of clinical pediatrics at Columbia University Medical Center in New York.

The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.


Actually, I did read the article, several days ago, on another site, and this one as well. That STILL does not excuse the segregation of a child due to information that his parents did not have to divulge. Where does it stop? There is not enough scientific data to correlate to "a child with active CF WILL cause a child with a latent CF gene will contract it". There is scientific evidence that it MAY escalate matters. That is the issue. May =/= Will.

But yeah, let's just isolate everyone. Bubbles for all.
 
2012-10-20 03:54:08 PM

TheOther: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.


That's not how cystic fibrosis works. The kid will never "get" CF. You're either born with full-blown CF or you're not, and if you're born without it you will never get it. Carriers can pass on the gene for it, and if they fark another carrier their kid might have CF, but that's it.
 
2012-10-20 03:55:06 PM
Even if the lung infection risk were legitimate, and looking at the literature it real dubious, this is still false logic: 1 in 28 caucasians carry at least one of the many known mutations in the CFTR gene that lead to cystic fibrosis. Given that frequency CF sufferers encounter hetrozygous carriers multiple times per day (the vast majority of carriers would not even know are carriers), meaning any benefit the child with CF would receive is negligible.

Also, does the kid with CF have siblings? If so, each has a 50% chance of being a carrier. Are they segregated from him as well?
 
2012-10-20 03:56:41 PM
Hey that's the other middle school in my home town. They were our rivals.

/lame story bro
 
2012-10-20 03:59:23 PM
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2012-10-20 04:00:19 PM

FormlessOne: Whether the parents like it or not, their kid is at risk because another kid carries the gene. Keeping them apart minimizes that risk. What's the problem?


1/25 whities is a carrier, so it looks like they're going to have to test the whole damn school so they know who else to kick out.
 
2012-10-20 04:00:19 PM

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Came for Gattaca, leaving happy.
 
2012-10-20 04:02:24 PM
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2012-10-20 04:02:58 PM

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


*raises hand*
 
2012-10-20 04:04:21 PM

JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.


Yes, because California public schools are all about teaching "Christianist "science"" Derp, derp, derp.

//You sound like a graduate of the California public school system.
 
2012-10-20 04:04:24 PM
This is idiotic. So long as these two boys don't start making out, they'll be fine. That's a bit hyperbolic, but it does take close contact to be at greater risk of infection. Keep the kids in different classes when possible, and when not at least not sitting right next to each other. This can be handled with a quick conversation with each child, telling them close contact with the other puts them at risk (and cluing in their teachers each year).
 
2012-10-20 04:07:15 PM
That's ok kid, you really didn't want to go to Mengele Academy anyway.
 
2012-10-20 04:07:37 PM

JasonOfOrillia: This is what happens when you teach Christianist "science" in school instead of real science. I assume their textbooks are of the Texas mandated variety.


This is a public school in Palo Alto. Since the kid is white, I'm going to assume the textbooks are lined with $100 bills.
 
2012-10-20 04:12:05 PM
Maybe they'll win a few million dollars, then the kid can just live a grand life without having to go to school or work.
 
2012-10-20 04:12:27 PM
Can we just round up all of the so called progressives and put them in California, then nuke it from space?
 
2012-10-20 04:12:31 PM

Lachwen: TheOther: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.

That's not how cystic fibrosis works. The kid will never "get" CF. You're either born with full-blown CF or you're not, and if you're born without it you will never get it. Carriers can pass on the gene for it, and if they fark another carrier their kid might have CF, but that's it.


No wai. Genes are contagious.
 
2012-10-20 04:12:49 PM
Johnny has Asthma? OUT!!
Billy has a nut allergy? BE GONE!!
Suzy has Psoriasis? GET THEE TO A NUNNERY!!!
Matter of fact, all you little farkers with any medical condition must be home schooled.
But Sir, there is no-one left.
Well, I guess the town has a budget surplus, now that the schools are closed.
 
2012-10-20 04:13:23 PM

Anastacya: Employers can't legally ask you about your medical conditions during an interview, why should a school have that information?


This. I think they should claim that he isn't a carrier, and make the school prove that he is. Then, when the school asks for medical records, claim confidentiality under hipaa, et al.
 
2012-10-20 04:14:03 PM

Anastacya: OtherLittleGuy: When they find the other kid that he is suppose to be a risk to, is the other kid going to be kicked out as well?

According to the article that I read earlier, since the other kid was there first, he gets first dibs on being a student in the school. Not to mention that the other kid actually has full-blown cystic fibrosis, while the kid in the article is only a carrier.

Employers can't legally ask you about your medical conditions during an interview, why should a school have that information? I can understand advising the school of a full-blown medical situation (has asthma, carries an epi-pen...), but why on earth do they need to know if you're a carrier of a disease? Talk about a slippery slope.

/you know who else liked to segregate people because of genetic "inferiority"?
//yea I Godwin'd the thread...


It's the reverse of too much derp, not enough science -- so much science it produces derp.
 
2012-10-20 04:14:22 PM
Cough cough. I think I have sickish flembosis too.
 
GBB
2012-10-20 04:16:32 PM

TorqueToad: "However, researchers say it may be risky for him to encounter someone who does have the disease.
Exposure can cause bacterial cross-contamination and a higher risk for infections among people who are carriers of the gene or who have the disease"

There's already one kid there who has it. Did anyone actually RTFA?


Exactly!! They've already reached their CF quota.
 
2012-10-20 04:18:52 PM

MoronLessOff: Lachwen: TheOther: FormlessOne: The kid is no risk to you. He's actually the one at risk - encountering another with the CF gene could escalate matters, and the school is just looking out for the welfare of not just him, but the other CF gene kid. There's enough scientific evidence to identify the risk, and so the school is acting on it.

Naw, let the parents win the lawsuit and the kid get CF and die, just for the Darwinlulz.

That's not how cystic fibrosis works. The kid will never "get" CF. You're either born with full-blown CF or you're not, and if you're born without it you will never get it. Carriers can pass on the gene for it, and if they fark another carrier their kid might have CF, but that's it.

No wai. Genes are contagious.


Well, I suppose technically, from parent to child... ;)
 
2012-10-20 04:19:56 PM

zenobia: Anastacya: OtherLittleGuy: When they find the other kid that he is suppose to be a risk to, is the other kid going to be kicked out as well?

According to the article that I read earlier, since the other kid was there first, he gets first dibs on being a student in the school. Not to mention that the other kid actually has full-blown cystic fibrosis, while the kid in the article is only a carrier.

Employers can't legally ask you about your medical conditions during an interview, why should a school have that information? I can understand advising the school of a full-blown medical situation (has asthma, carries an epi-pen...), but why on earth do they need to know if you're a carrier of a disease? Talk about a slippery slope.

/you know who else liked to segregate people because of genetic "inferiority"?
//yea I Godwin'd the thread...

It's the reverse of too much derp, not enough science -- so much science it produces derp.


This guy...
www.whitehouse.gov
 
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