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(Live Science)   Expert says that baby-naming regret is on the rise among parents, and that it damn well should be with all the little Braden Jaden Aidens and Kayeghleighs and Dacrons and Sinutabs out there   (livescience.com) divider line 609
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2012-10-20 11:27:50 PM

ThighsofGlory: Shyla: AverageAmericanGuy: Shyla: Currently trying to talk my daughter out of naming her daughter Saorise. I have 2 months left and I'm afraid I'm not going to be successful.

How would that be pronounced? Sow-ree-say? Sow-rise? Sow-ree-zee?

From what I understand the pronunciation is 'Seer-sha', it's Irish, wish neither my family or baby daddy's family are.

What's the middle name? This is important.
/son's middle name is Thelonious.


They haven't decided yet. Hoping for something somewhat normal. I'm guessing you are a jazz fan. Cool name.
 
2012-10-20 11:30:36 PM

rickythepenguin: namegoeshere: That's why my kid's name is Honda Civic.


my youngest is named "Burger King Bathroom"


She did more than hold your pickle.
 
2012-10-20 11:34:23 PM

Ed_Severson: Again -- your opinion, which quite literally nobody cares about. That is the point.


You care enough to respond.

I'll just point out, since you've been crying for hours about ad hominem, that you called me "a derpy parent" before I directed one word toward you.

That doesn't negate what you've been doing. Try again. By the way, conversing in small bits at a time over the course of hours is not the same as "crying for hours". Straw manning me wont allow you a moral or maturity based victory.

And just in case you try the "crying for hours" thing again, you've been here going at it just as long as me.

Once again, I don't give a fark what you think,


Yet you keep responding... Are you trying to convince me of that, or yourself?

I have no interest in your boring tirade about Thomas Edison's moral compass. I'm just responding because, at this point, it's kind of amazing to me that my not-quite-3-year-old son gets the point faster than a presumably grown man.

The point that you claim that don't care? Or the point that you named your son after a famous asshole? Which point? "It's family history!" doesn't negate what happened in that history. Some things aren't worth praising.

I can see how it might appear that way to someone stupid. On my side of the fence, it's a little different. Failing to acknowledge a direct question from a raving moron whose opinion I value less than dogshiat about a topic I don't care about? Well, that's just good common sense.

Dodging the question still while keeping up with the personal attacks. You're classy.

What else would you like to not discuss?

How I damaged your pride and how you seem damn invested in making be believe otherwise. But maybe if you say it enough times it'll come true. Maybe if you can make me renege my point it'll stop existing and you can stop the uncomfortable knowledge of who your son is named after. In any case he still has a last name as a first. And regardless of who last name that is, it's a pretty dumb thing to do.

/This remains fun
//Time isn't wasted if you enjoy what you're doing
 
2012-10-20 11:34:45 PM
My daughter was born in July. We went for the simple name: Elizabeth. I've always found it to be very pretty.

Should our second child be a boy, I really want to name him Kevin, after my dad. I also like Thomas (after an uncle), but I'm afraid my now three-year-old- nephew's obsession with the train cartoon will take that one out of the running.

If we have another girl, I like Amanda or Charlene.
 
2012-10-20 11:40:25 PM
Ohh forgot one. I used to do some work for a guy named Harry Johnson. Seriously, WTF were his patents thinking?!?
 
2012-10-20 11:49:05 PM
I miss the days when the East Alabama Medical Center website allowed access to their baby names section... just have to settle for the archives...

for example on this page we have lil' Cu'Darieus Demiere born to (Curran & Litivia)
 
2012-10-20 11:51:09 PM

TotesCrayCray: "It's family history!" doesn't negate what happened in that history. Some things aren't worth praising.


Here's a fun exercise, since you've got such a stiffy about answering direct questions. What, exactly, do you think my family history is as it relates to this topic?

This should be entertaining.
 
2012-10-20 11:51:59 PM

radiobiz: Ohh forgot one. I used to do some work for a guy named Harry Johnson. Seriously, WTF were his patents thinking?!?


Talked to guy one time on the phone whose last name was "Dick". For some reason his parents thought it was a good idea to name him "Richard".

That's right. Dick Dick. I think they must have hated him since I can think of no other plausible explanation for doing that to your child.
 
2012-10-20 11:58:58 PM

Ed_Severson: Here's a fun exercise, since you've got such a stiffy about answering direct questions. What, exactly, do you think my family history is as it relates to this topic?

This should be entertaining.


I asked first, you answer first.
 
2012-10-21 12:05:26 AM

Ed_Severson: TotesCrayCray: "It's family history!" doesn't negate what happened in that history. Some things aren't worth praising.

Here's a fun exercise, since you've got such a stiffy about answering direct questions. What, exactly, do you think my family history is as it relates to this topic?

This should be entertaining.


You know, for someone who repeatedly claims to not care what I think, you're sure trying to find out what it is that I think.
 
2012-10-21 12:12:06 AM

Coco LaFemme: Atypical Person Reading Fark: Can anyone explain why Olivia is so popular?

I didn't know it was all that popular, but I think it's beautiful. It's simple, easy to spell, easy to pronounce, has no unnecessary punctuation marks, and is short. Your name is what you're stuck with your whole life, unless you decide to legally change it when you're 18. So it should at least be something ages well with you, looks good on a resume, doesn't sound retarded coming out of someone's mouth, etc.,

I can't remember if I read it here first or somewhere else, but a good rule of thumb when picking names for a baby girl is to grab a hairbrush or remote control and in your best strip club announcer voice, say "And now dancing on the main stage, ___________!" If it sounds like it fits in that sentence, don't give that name to your baby.


I think it's a lovely name, kind of pleasantly old-fashioned (its primary associations for me are with Olivia Newton-John, and Mrs. Walton from TV's "The Waltons"). It's made all out of smooth, fluid sounds. And "O" is a graphically versatile initial for monograms.

As a side topic if noone's brought it up yet, parents, please do pay attention to the kids' initials when you're picking names for them. Your little Colin Ulysses Malloy or Whitney Therese Frobisher might want some monogrammed luggage some day.
 
2012-10-21 12:14:15 AM

TotesCrayCray: I asked first, you answer first.


No thanks.

Your attitude about this leads me to believe that you're convinced I engage in serious hero worship of Edison (I don't) and that it's your responsibility to talk me out of it (it isn't). I know it may seem impossible to believe, but I can appreciate the man's scientific and engineering prowess without embracing everything about him. Nobody is flawless. Naming my son after my dad would no more have been an endorsement of my father's flaws than naming him Edison is an endorsement of the inventor's. Your core belief about the guy seems to be that he was a terrible person. Good for you. I don't care. I think he was a solid engineer and his last name sounds nice. That's all that matters to me.

Your numerous questions are totally irrelevant, which is precisely why I've not bothered to answer any of them -- you're arguing against a bunch of things that never happened in the first place, for a purpose that must be a complete mystery to everyone who's had the misfortune to read this thread.

Clear enough?
 
2012-10-21 12:15:36 AM

kc278: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kc278: Not to break up the circlejerk, but I gave my daughter a "non-traditional" name.

It's a real word, has deep personal meaning for me, is beautful sounding, isn't especially difficult to spell or pronounce phonetically, and is readily shortened to a "normal" sounding (but still uncomon) name.

Eikasia (Εικασία: archaic Greek for "imagination"). Kasey for short.

My point is that stunt naming can be pulled off, but it requires a little more thought than many people seem to be able to muster.

Ike-Asia? Yikes

It's closer to "ah-Kasia." The first syllable is soft and unaccented.

In any event, it's been thirteen years and I haven't heard any complaints.


I just didn't know how it was pronounced. "Ah Kasia" is nice.
 
2012-10-21 12:16:55 AM

rickythepenguin: namegoeshere: That's why my kid's name is Honda Civic.


my youngest is named "Burger King Bathroom"


Shock G?
 
2012-10-21 12:18:20 AM

TotesCrayCray: You know, for someone who repeatedly claims to not care what I think, you're sure trying to find out what it is that I think.


I'm only trying to find out what it is you hope to accomplish, because I'll be damned if I can figure it out. Unless Thomas Edison raped your great great grandmother with a molded elephant cock and you think I'm a distant relative of his, the fury with which you've attacked both me personally for choosing the name and the inventor for whatever else you've rambled on about is completely out of proportion for a rational person. I will freely admit, I am fascinated to learn why you hate the guy so much and why your mission in life today seems to be to make me hate him too. It just doesn't make any sense.
 
2012-10-21 12:40:45 AM
I named my first daughter Isabella. When she was three that gorram "Twilight" book came out and ruined her name :(
I also have a Cecelia and an Elizabeth. My husband's name is French and a little tricky for some people to pronounce correctly (Rejean) so he swore our kids would have easy, obvious, classic names.
 
2012-10-21 12:52:37 AM

Bathia_Mapes: radiobiz: Ohh forgot one. I used to do some work for a guy named Harry Johnson. Seriously, WTF were his patents thinking?!?

Talked to guy one time on the phone whose last name was "Dick". For some reason his parents thought it was a good idea to name him "Richard".

That's right. Dick Dick. I think they must have hated him since I can think of no other plausible explanation for doing that to your child.


Obviously, his parents liked dick.
 
2012-10-21 01:00:49 AM

Ed_Severson: No thanks.


Unwilling to do that which you request of others. Such a shame.

Good for you. I don't care.

Yet you're still responding and even inquired to know more about opinions that you don't care about?

I think he was a solid engineer and his last name sounds nice. That's all that matters to me.

Names kid after someone, yet cherry picks the qualities desired and ignores the overwhelming bad of that namesake. Awesome decision making skills.

Oh, and wasn't that great of an engineer. He stole almost all of the big things that he was accredited with. He was a ruthless business man, but a so-so inventor.

Your numerous questions are totally irrelevant, which is precisely why I've not bothered to answer any of them -- you're arguing against a bunch of things that never happened in the first place, for a purpose that must be a complete mystery to everyone who's had the misfortune to read this thread.

Clear enough?


The character of your son's namesake is irrelevant. Gotcha.

If you just liked the name, then fine. But you admitted that Thomas Edison is the inspiration and namesake. So that brings the person in question into the spotlight. When this particular person is illuminated, bad things are seen.

I'm only trying to find out what it is you hope to accomplish

But you've said over and over and over again that you don't care.

I will freely admit, I am fascinated to learn why you hate the guy so much and why your mission in life today seems to be to make me hate him too. It just doesn't make any sense.

What doesn't make sense is giving someone a last name as a first name. What doesn't make sense is naming your son after someone (which should be a great honor) who deserves little praise. It's like naming someone after Caligula because he was a great ruler. Oh, all that other stuff? Doesn't matter.

Your rationalizing and willful ignorance is baffling. And the fact that you keep coming back is proof that you do, indeed care.
 
2012-10-21 01:03:03 AM
It's time for sleep. I wonder what this thread will hold by tomorrow.
 
2012-10-21 01:11:57 AM

TotesCrayCray: But you've said over and over and over again that you don't care.


I don't. I'm fascinated by the arrogance that drives your self-appointed role as the name police, and totally mystified as to why you think I or anyone else should give a fark about your views on a historical figure you never met or should clamor for your approval when naming our children. Even for the internet, you've embarked on an amazingly ridiculous, utterly moronic, and pathetically desperate and fruitless crusade to impose your viewpoint on somebody else. What a sad existence.

Have fun with that, skippy.
 
2012-10-21 01:15:22 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Bathia_Mapes: radiobiz: Ohh forgot one. I used to do some work for a guy named Harry Johnson. Seriously, WTF were his patents thinking?!?

Talked to guy one time on the phone whose last name was "Dick". For some reason his parents thought it was a good idea to name him "Richard".

That's right. Dick Dick. I think they must have hated him since I can think of no other plausible explanation for doing that to your child.

Obviously, his parents liked dick.


Or dik-diks.
 
2012-10-21 01:24:09 AM

croesius: So, I've got twins on the way, and we are just starting to get into the name debate...I'm torn between finding something literary or slightly geekish, a family historical name, or maybe of a favorite musician. My problem is convincing the wife. I doubt she'd be in line with the first two, but I'm working on her with regards to Sascha.

/rip the system!


Is it pronounced "Sasha"? If so, save yourself some trouble and just name her Sasha. Everyone will automatically assume that's how it's spelled anyway.
 
2012-10-21 01:30:55 AM
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Im gonna name my girl Kayexalate
 
2012-10-21 03:11:14 AM

Heamer: I had a friend in high school who used to babysit a girl named Crystal Lear. Her middle name? Shanda.

I'm not even joking.


I worked with a Chanda Lear in the '80s @ Disneyland. Her claim to fame? She could pee standing up.
 
2012-10-21 03:31:48 AM
Son: Jack Vonnegut (grandpa/writer)
Daughter: Holiday (cowboy)
Son: Larsen (rapper Eyedea)

My poor children.
 
2012-10-21 03:32:50 AM

Iceman_Cometh: rickythepenguin: namegoeshere: That's why my kid's name is Honda Civic.


my youngest is named "Burger King Bathroom"

She did more than hold your pickle.


You need to wrap your Whopper.
 
2012-10-21 04:01:43 AM
Gonna name my babby Tabernanthe Ibogaine.
 
2012-10-21 04:15:40 AM

Maralyn Minks: If I ever have kids, I like Gaston, Raphael, or Constantine for a boy. For a girl, I like Ophelia, Odile, or Sabine.

I'm pretty sure I have weird taste.


My friend just named her daughter Ophelia.
 
2012-10-21 04:24:08 AM

Baby Buzzard: I've come across a lot of interesting old names while doing genealogy, including a lot of "mother's maiden names" as first names. i>

My daughter's middle name is my mother's maiden name.

 
2012-10-21 08:30:53 AM

kc278:
Eikasia (Εικασία: archaic Greek for "imagination"). Kasey for short.

My point is that stunt naming can be pulled off, but it requires a little more thought than many people seem to be able to muster.


Maybe stunt naming can be pulled off, but you certainly didn't pull it off. You gave your kid a crappy name because it had special meaning for you. Did it ever occur to you that the name wasn't yours? That maybe you should name your kid for them? Eeeek-asia is a dumb name. And Kasey is neither the correct spelling nor "short" for eek asia.

/Your naming abilities are bad and you should feel bad.
//But it'll be your child that's forced to feel bad instead.
 
2012-10-21 09:40:27 AM

amo: My grade school Phys Ed teacher's name was Soda Popp,


This is the name of a character in a S E Hinton book. His brother's name is Ponyboy.
 
2012-10-21 09:48:24 AM

lohphat: Heamer: I had a friend in high school who used to babysit a girl named Crystal Lear. Her middle name? Shanda.

I'm not even joking.

I worked with a Chanda Lear in the '80s @ Disneyland. Her claim to fame? She could pee standing up.


I am... upset... that there are so many of these poor girls. I went to school with Shanda Lier. I swear she used to get paged to the office constantly. For teh lulz.
 
2012-10-21 09:48:59 AM

Ed_Severson: TotesCrayCray: But you've said over and over and over again that you don't care.

I don't. I'm fascinated by the arrogance that drives your self-appointed role as the name police, and totally mystified as to why you think I or anyone else should give a fark about your views on a historical figure you never met or should clamor for your approval when naming our children. Even for the internet, you've embarked on an amazingly ridiculous, utterly moronic, and pathetically desperate and fruitless crusade to impose your viewpoint on somebody else. What a sad existence.

Have fun with that, skippy.


You keep saying that. Do you believe it yet? I sure don't. For someone who says he doesn't want my approval you seem determined to see me stop giving disapproval. Or maybe you're just one of those "last word" type of people. As if that'll make you "win" or something.

More personal attacks, while avoiding the reality of the situation, and ending it with a belittling gesture. It's really unfortunate to see someone crumble and resort to such actions.

/Oh noes! He called me skippy! I feel so little and weak now!!1!
//What ever shall I do?
 
2012-10-21 09:51:26 AM

TotesCrayCray: Ed_Severson: TotesCrayCray: But you've said over and over and over again that you don't care.

I don't. I'm fascinated by the arrogance that drives your self-appointed role as the name police, and totally mystified as to why you think I or anyone else should give a fark about your views on a historical figure you never met or should clamor for your approval when naming our children. Even for the internet, you've embarked on an amazingly ridiculous, utterly moronic, and pathetically desperate and fruitless crusade to impose your viewpoint on somebody else. What a sad existence.

Have fun with that, skippy.

You keep saying that. Do you believe it yet? I sure don't. For someone who says he doesn't want my approval you seem determined to see me stop giving disapproval. Or maybe you're just one of those "last word" type of people. As if that'll make you "win" or something.

More personal attacks, while avoiding the reality of the situation, and ending it with a belittling gesture. It's really unfortunate to see someone crumble and resort to such actions.

/Oh noes! He called me skippy! I feel so little and weak now!!1!
//What ever shall I do?


How about just farking drop it.
It's getting tired for the rest of us.
 
2012-10-21 09:56:59 AM
Don't like it, mr this guy's alt or white knight? Then use the ignore list.
 
2012-10-21 10:11:39 AM

sno man: How about just farking drop it.


His ego won't allow it. Every thread has an overbearing asshole; he's found his niche here.
 
2012-10-21 10:24:32 AM
My ego? This is funny coming from the person who seems fervent about caring, while claiming to not, about what others think of the validity of his life choices. You did a silly thing. People don't like when that's pointed out. It's ok. I understand.
 
2012-10-21 11:30:31 AM

TotesCrayCray: My ego? This is funny coming from the person who seems fervent about caring, while claiming to not, about what others think of the validity of his life choices. You did a silly thing. People don't like when that's pointed out. It's ok. I understand.


ok, seriously, you're being a tool. There's lots of people out there that share names with worse people than Thomas goddamn Edison. The guy has some kind of connection to edison and liked the name. You have an irrational hatred of a dead guy.

How dare people use the name William after William the Conquerer invaded England! How dare anyone name their kid Francis with what Francisco Pizzaro did to the Incas!

/you're a tool
 
2012-10-21 11:51:00 AM

amishkarl: ok, seriously, you're being a tool. There's lots of people out there that share names with worse people than Thomas goddamn Edison. The guy has some kind of connection to edison and liked the name. You have an irrational hatred of a dead guy.

How dare people use the name William after William the Conquerer invaded England! How dare anyone name their kid Francis with what Francisco Pizzaro did to the Incas!

/you're a tool


BZZZT!

Liking a name is one thing. Naming someone specifically after someone (as was admitted to) is another. Try again. And as always, last names as first names is just silly.
 
2012-10-21 11:54:40 AM
Oh, and I don't hate Edison. I have no personal reason to do so. However, I hold no delusions about who he was and what he did. There's a difference. I do, however, enjoy opening people's eyes. Living in a world of delusion for the sake of happiness is just sad.

That being said, push me and I'll push back. Simple as that.
 
2012-10-21 12:17:14 PM

amishkarl: TotesCrayCray: My ego? This is funny coming from the person who seems fervent about caring, while claiming to not, about what others think of the validity of his life choices. You did a silly thing. People don't like when that's pointed out. It's ok. I understand.

ok, seriously, you're being a tool. There's lots of people out there that share names with worse people than Thomas goddamn Edison. The guy has some kind of connection to edison and liked the name. You have an irrational hatred of a dead guy.

How dare people use the name William after William the Conquerer invaded England! How dare anyone name their kid Francis with what Francisco Pizzaro did to the Incas!

/you're a tool


Delusion is a dangerous thing for the feeble-minded. A psychologist's wet dream, that one.
 
2012-10-21 12:32:59 PM
Again with the holier than thou thing. All you seem to do in come back to insult. Yet you call me the asshole. So childish.
 
2012-10-21 12:37:52 PM

TotesCrayCray: Again with the holier than thou thing. All you seem to do in come back to insult. Yet you call me the asshole. So childish.


That's all you're worth. If you don't like being called an asshole, try not to be an asshole.
 
2012-10-21 12:41:50 PM
Hrm. He's from Indianapolis. That makes sense. My years spent in that hell hole were awful. Indy is overflowing with puffy chested, arrogant, ignorant fools who think that their shiat don't stink. Cocks of the walk, as it were. Heaven forbid you point out their idiocy, too. They rage with the butthurt of a thousand online 12 year olds. Goddamn being in Indianapolis sucked.

/Plus anything south of Indy is pretty much Northern Kentucky.
//It's as bad as it sounds.
 
2012-10-21 12:45:26 PM

Ed_Severson: TotesCrayCray: Again with the holier than thou thing. All you seem to do in come back to insult. Yet you call me the asshole. So childish.

That's all you're worth. If you don't like being called an asshole, try not to be an asshole.


I don't really care what you call me. It doesn't hurt my feelings. Unlike you, I have tough skin. I'm just pointing out the irony and asinine nature of your behavior.

If pointing out the truth makes one an asshole, then I'd gladly wear it as a badge of honor.

Name calling seems to be all you're good for. You've been woefully unable to actually converse on an adult level.

Plus I can tell that you really want the last word. Another sign of immaturity.
 
2012-10-21 12:48:44 PM
You've committed literally every offense you've complained about. There's no adult conversation to be had here ... you're just arguing for no purpose at all. It's pathetic.
 
2012-10-21 12:53:52 PM
TotesCrayCray:

From the time Ed_Severson started his comments here, I have come to one conclusion: He sounds vain. 
 
2012-10-21 12:54:35 PM

Ed_Severson: You've committed literally every offense you've complained about. There's no adult conversation to be had here ... you're just arguing for no purpose at all. It's pathetic.


I started by making a point. You refused to actually discuss anything, dodged every single direct question while wanting me to answer yours (how very authoritarian of you), and instead went straight to insults.

You named your son after a horrible human being. You're behaving as an immature man-child with thin skin.

It's been so very fun pointing out your bad decisions and immaturity, but I have better things to do on a Sunday. So, I'm out. Go ahead and have your "last word" and proclaim victory. I'll never see your last word, so you'll never really get to stick it to me, as it were. Impotent rage is all I'll leave you with.

I pity your wife for being stuck with you and I pity your child for having your genes.
 
2012-10-21 12:57:24 PM

Breech Birth: TotesCrayCray:

From the time Ed_Severson started his comments here, I have come to one conclusion: He sounds vain.


I got the same vibe. He seemed so proud of his naming thing. It's super awesome wonderfullness was questioned, by multiple people, and all he's done is lash out. It's like his ego was under attack.
 
2012-10-21 01:04:08 PM

sno man: TotesCrayCray: Ed_Severson: TotesCrayCray: But you've said over and over and over again that you don't care.

I don't. I'm fascinated by the arrogance that drives your self-appointed role as the name police, and totally mystified as to why you think I or anyone else should give a fark about your views on a historical figure you never met or should clamor for your approval when naming our children. Even for the internet, you've embarked on an amazingly ridiculous, utterly moronic, and pathetically desperate and fruitless crusade to impose your viewpoint on somebody else. What a sad existence.

Have fun with that, skippy.

You keep saying that. Do you believe it yet? I sure don't. For someone who says he doesn't want my approval you seem determined to see me stop giving disapproval. Or maybe you're just one of those "last word" type of people. As if that'll make you "win" or something.

More personal attacks, while avoiding the reality of the situation, and ending it with a belittling gesture. It's really unfortunate to see someone crumble and resort to such actions.

/Oh noes! He called me skippy! I feel so little and weak now!!1!
//What ever shall I do?

How about just farking drop it.
It's getting tired for the rest of us.


I'm enjoying it.
 
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