ghare: Sounds like a lot of you are lazy parents or childless dickwads. I never had to spank my kids, the school never had to spank my kids, and they're honor students with no problems.My WIFE, on the other hand.../just kidding honey
Ummon: More parents need to spank their kids. It shouldn't be your first option for punishment but sometimes the little shiats need their asses tanned
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bk3k: But never hit a child when you are angry. Only ever do it out of love ...Yeah that sounds ridiculous but people who think spanking is abuse seem pretty ridiculous to me.
orbister: bk3k: But never hit a child when you are angry. Only ever do it out of love ...Yeah that sounds ridiculous but people who think spanking is abuse seem pretty ridiculous to me.People who think that it is acceptable deliberately and calmly to inflict pain on a child and then tell them you're doing it "out of love" don't just seem ridiculous to me. They seem downright creepy. I find it far easier to understand someone who hits a child in the heat of the moment than someone who is capable of calming down, reflecting and then dispassionately hitting them.Would you hit a sixteen year old in this way, or would it have to be someone small enough for you to overpower?Oh noes! A child must feel a little pain! We must work hard to ensure that a child never experiences what pain feels like until they become adults. Don't spank them. Don't let them play(its dangerous and they could get HURT). In fact lets just duck tape them to a chair to make sure they never get hurt.The pain is temporary. As for age - a parent who spanks isn't going to need to do it to an older child. I don't think me or my 3 younger brothers ever needed to get spanked past 4-5 years old and very rarely on the upper end. As we age, more logical thinking sets in. Plus we had learned behavior.We understood actions have consequences - one of the possible consequences could be spanking. We also where made to understand and care that our actions affected those around us. We where not the kids you always see now throwing tantrums in the store(while there parents do NOTHING). Our parents had a much easier time taking their 4 boys in public than many do with only 1. Even as a small child I could see the contrast.I never thought that my parents hated me for getting spanked. They coupled the spanking with explanation. Its called "parenting" - you might look the term up.You sound like a gigantic wimp frankly. Its not bullying - its not about feeling "powerful" through physical domination over your child. Its about correcting behavior early enough. Learned behavior in early life becomes hard to overcome later in life. But early in life - logic really does not reach children. They operate mostly on animal instinct and this is one thing they DO instinctively understand.It also provides a sharp contrast when coupled with positive reinforcement. Most of the time, you will be doing good for your child. This time, you are causing them a little pain. They will understand that something has caused this change in behavior from you and will more easily get that their behavior is unacceptable in a way that words alone cannot at that age.orbister:Why can't people who dislike abortions simply JUST NOT GET ABORTIONS and those who oppose spanking simply JUST NOT SPANK YOUR OWN KIDS? You could look at so many subjects this way.Indeed you could. Against child rape? Don't rape children. Against lynching black people? Don't lynch black people? Against flying aircraft into skyscrapers? Don't fly aircraft into skyscrapers. How dare these godless liberals enforce their own hippy beliefs on everyone else, eh?Conveniently ignoring my last 2nd to last which puts to rest all your examples - The behaviors that need to be outlawed are those that cause verifiable harm to others.Rape, lynching, and bad piloting cause harm to other people.
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