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2012-10-19 01:21:42 PM

jaylabs: I drink 4-12 regular sodas a day, along with terribly "unhealthy" food in quantities of 4000+ calories. I do not excercise. My bloodwork came back perfectly, I have no medical issues that I'm aware of, my teeth are pearly white and my BMI is 18.5.

I remain unconvinced that food can have as extreme of an impact as we're lead to believe.


How old are you?
 
2012-10-19 01:24:08 PM
With a pH of 3.2, diet soda is very acidic. (As a point of reference, the pH of battery acid is 1. Water is 7.)

The article is interesting but that is a terrible point of reference. With some additional outside knowledge you might be able to gauge what a 3.2 is, but if you have that level of knowledge then you already knew that water has a pH of 7 anyway.
 
2012-10-19 01:28:32 PM

TNel: That whole article is just bs crap.

#1. No proof but it might be the cause
#2. "Whether that link is attributed to an ingredient in diet soda or the drinkers' eating habits is unclear. But is that one can really worth it?" So it's not the drinks fault but the persons.
#3. "That means people who consume diet foods might be more likely to overeat, because your body is being tricked into thinking it's eating sugar, and you crave more." Again same thing not the drinks fault.
#4. Get drunk faster... I'm in!!!!
#5. As per the article they don't use that ingrediant anymore and the new one in pure form (not mixed) is an irritant.. Who cares I'm not mixing it myself
#6. Pepsi is 2.46 which is MORE acidic than diet pepsi
#7. "Sometimes, the vessel for your beverage is just as harmful. Diet or not, soft drink cans are coated with the endocrine disruptor bisphenol A (BPA), which has been linked to everything from heart disease to obesity to reproductive problems. That's a lot of risktaking for one can of pop." WTF is this crap

Wow that was someone that likes normal soft drinks and wanted to try and justify why Diet ones are bad. Don't get into the positives just look at rumored negatives.


This. The article says with certainty what none of the academic articles even attempt to conclude, and then uses fallacious tactics like, "is it worth that one can a day?" to try to guilt the reader into giving up diet soda.

Here's an interesting fact: most of the food we eat and even the water we drink is safe for consumption, but far from optimal. "Healthy" food like fresh fruits and vegetables are often coated with pesticides, preservative sprays and wax to make them last longer on the shelves. Juice and rice are being found to have higher levels of arsenic due to the fertilizers used. Many commonly-consumed meats are treated with preservatives like nitrates that, in large quantities, may cause cancer.

And yet somehow, people eat this stuff everyday and manage just fine. Perhaps the real message we should be preaching is that tried-and-true advice, "Enjoy things in moderation." Our bodies are far more capable of dealing with this stuff than we give them credit for, and as long as we're mixing up that diet soda consumption with other beverages (and especially water, which can flush a lot of this crap out of our guts), we'll be fine.
 
2012-10-19 01:33:42 PM
Sounds like a lot of people in this thread are gonna die soon.

Too bad, I like the Fark community.
 
2012-10-19 01:34:06 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Well...shiat.

I drink at least two diet sodas a day. Probably closer to four or five.

I am the poster child for part of what this article is about. I am borderline metabolic syndrome and I can't seem to lose weight. Maybe ten pounds here or there. My diet hasn't been stellar, but I should be losing more.

God damn it so much. I really like my Diet Coke.

Guess I'll have to ditch that and switch to Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Fark it all to hell.


I read "Why We Get Fat" and was intrigued to learn how much of our diets consist of carbohydrates, and how cutting carbs down dramatically will naturally cause you to lose weight because of how the body processes carbs and releases insulin. I cut my carbs down to no more than 20-40g a day and I've been dropping weight quite easily after struggling for years. Unlike this article, cutting carbohydrates down is well-supported by the literature and is known to be a major contributor to weight gain. I also never realized how dramatic a role insulin plays in keeping us fat, or how even the thought of food can trigger the hormone.

Though it's not a diet book, the author suggests just trying a high-protein diet and switching out sugar for artificial sweeteners. I figured it was worth a try. So far, I've found it quite enjoyable, though a biatchallenging!
 
2012-10-19 01:34:11 PM
My dad's been +300lbs most of my life, and he's one of those fat people who only drinks diet soda. Do I blame the soda? Nope, I blame it on the fact he'll eat an entire tray of sugary breakfast danishes for breakfast, multiple Big Mac's and giant sized fry for lunch, a giant sized dinner, plus snacks of sugary foods all day long, with 0 exercise.

I've talked to him about the diet soda choice, and his response to me is he'd rather eat calories than drink them.

I'm sure he's not the only fatty who thinks like this, and I'm sure it sku's some of those studies.

/On the other hand, I'm not a big soda drinker, but I've found that if I do drink soda, I often find myself craving other sugary foods. So if you are on a diet, and don't have enough will power to overcome urges, it might be a good idea to cut any sweet drinks out of your diet to head of urges to eat sugary foods.
 
2012-10-19 01:34:27 PM

traylor: It took me a whole 3 weeks to get used to the taste of coke zero. After drinking it exclusively for 5 years I can't drink the sugary coke anymore. When I try it I can only taste sugar. Which makes me want to vomit.

It proves that the sugar tastes likes shiat.


Oh and btw if you wonder how much sugar there is in a cup of coke,

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]


That's weird. I drink diet sodas all the time, but when I drink regular coke for some reason, it doesn't taste overly sweet to me. Actually, it tastes way less sweet than the diet stuff.

And recently to kick the diet soda habit, I've switched to these types of drinks:

static.caloriecount.about.com

no caffeine either.
 
2012-10-19 01:34:30 PM

CrappityCrap: Any kind of soda is bad for you. Whether diet or regular.

/drink water instead


What about soda water?
 
2012-10-19 01:35:23 PM
Here's something you didn't know about your diet soda: It might be bad for your kidneys.

Oh. Look. This lie.

I actually discussed this with a nephrologist. He pointed out that there is a correlation, but no evidence of causation, and that it's more likely that people who already have kidney disease may suffer complications from some compounds in diet sodas so as a precaution they tell people who are at-risk for kidney disease or already have declining function that it's a no-no. Since you have to be very, very careful about the volume of fluids you drink anyway if you already have kidney failure, diet sodas are generally out just because of that if you already are on dialysis.

The rest are just as big of crap. The acid one is bullshiat aimed at people who don't understand logarithms (the Ph of a lemon is about 2.5 so you better not drink water with a twist in it or clearly YOU'RE TEETH WILL FALL FROM YOUR FACE!), the BPA one is a widespread packaging problem for almost all sodas and many, many things that aren't soda (and god help you if you put plastic plates in the microwave to heat food), the "hangover" one is just a side-effect of the fact that diets have no calories and therefore don't restrict digestion (better just stop drinking water since it has no calories and a whiskey on the rocks shot will "get you drunk faster!") and the others sound like the typical "science" reporting bullshiat: "science say x has an association with y so media reports that x causes y"

I've often suspected that shows like Today are mainly aimed at dumb people who have nothing better to do during the day when competent people are at work. I think this offers strong evidence of my hypothesis.
 
2012-10-19 01:35:30 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: jaylabs: I drink 4-12 regular sodas a day, along with terribly "unhealthy" food in quantities of 4000+ calories. I do not excercise. My bloodwork came back perfectly, I have no medical issues that I'm aware of, my teeth are pearly white and my BMI is 18.5.

I remain unconvinced that food can have as extreme of an impact as we're lead to believe.

How old are you?


Some people just don't gain weight no matter how hard they try. It all catches up to them when they hit about 35-40 though.
 
2012-10-19 01:37:04 PM
I suspect that studies linking diet soft drinks to obesity or metabolic syndrome are flawed by what Nietzsche identified as one of the most common errors of philosophers and other thinking people, namely confusing cause and effect.

People who drink diet soda are already fatter and more sickly. They are trying to take the easy way out, or to make a small step in the right direction. They can sometimes, but not always, be delusional in the way that so many of us suspect, namely rationalizing away bad behaviour because of one "good" habit that supposedly counters the effects of eating too much but doesn't really. We've seen both the studies and real life examples of this a-plenty.

These two forces, self-delusion and error, are the most powerful forces in human affairs of any kind. Any study that does not study to remove the effects of these two factors is sure to produce unreliable or even bogus results.

The only way to test whether diet soft drinks are better or worse than regular soft drinks would be a double-blind study where the taste differences between the two products is artfully concealed.

In this way, the participants could not delude themselves and the common error of confusing cause and effect could be eliminated by carefully selecting non-soft drink consumers so as to eliminate self-selection as a factor.

Because you are, or are not, the type of person who drinks diet soda.

Personally I dislike diet sodas generally and especially diet colas. They just don't have the same taste or mouth feel. The carbonisation seems different also. They seem fizzy, with tiny, tiny bubbles instead of "normal-sized" bubbles. I'm not one to suppose that something is good for you because it tastes bad, or bad for you because it is pleasing. In any case, the harm is often in the dosage, not innate.

The only diet beverage I like much is Fresca. You may be surprised to know that it still exists, but it does. However, I am addicted more to cola than soda per se, so I am unlikely to consume only Fresca or even too much Fresca on a daily basis.

In my experience factors in weight gain are as follows:

not sleeping right;
eating too many snacks just because they are there;
eating too much at meals more than occasionally;
depression, including sustained bad weather;
not exercising as much as I used to, or being as active;
periodically eating sweets or chocolate or high calorie foods (in combination with one of the preceeding triggers)
Fark.com.

Yes, Fark.com is in my top ten reasons why I am too fat. It combines with the preceeding triggers or factors, exacerbating them. Alone it would not be a problem. The same is probably true of eating too much and eating the wrong snacks--they reenforce each other, or else they would not be so bad.

People who smoke and drink too much coffee and eat badly often do so in combination.

People who eat too much, don't exercise and don't sleep usually are doing these three things for deeper reasons that make the three a deadly combo--perhaps stress or denial or some emotional-social-family issue.

Boredom is the enemy of princes, says an old proverb. It is the enemy of us all, not to mention everything within our reach.

Our vice is stronger, our virtue weaker, than we acknowledge, and few of us are even aware that our vices and virtues are very often the same thing and have the same roots. Having read the Maxims of the Duke of LaRochefoucald, I realize that this is sound psychology, but it doesn't help to wrestle with yourself. You have to trick yourself, bribe yourself, or frighten yourself into action, because thinking does nothing, believing means nothing, knowing with inaction is worse than acting without knowledge.

Good instincts sustain us, bad instincts lead us into error and destruction, and very often there's really no difference between the two--they are just instincts that work part of the time and betray us part of the time.

Still, self-awareness is better than no awareness. Knowing that you are your own worst enemy helps to arm you for a lifetime struggle that some people manage to win, if only because their vices are weaker than the vices of those who don't succeed.

As the philosopher said, many people congratulate themselves on leaving their vices, when in fact, their vices have left them.
 
2012-10-19 01:43:29 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: jaylabs: I drink 4-12 regular sodas a day, along with terribly "unhealthy" food in quantities of 4000+ calories. I do not excercise. My bloodwork came back perfectly, I have no medical issues that I'm aware of, my teeth are pearly white and my BMI is 18.5.

I remain unconvinced that food can have as extreme of an impact as we're lead to believe.

How old are you?


28. I'm assuming my metabolism will deteriorate in the next 5 years, but still. That's a pretty good run.
 
2012-10-19 01:46:41 PM

jigger: Some people just don't gain weight no matter how hard they try. It all catches up to them when they hit about 35-40 though.


Not necessarily. There are also those very few rat bastards who manage to win the genetic lottery that allows them to eat like that to the day they die without any adverse weight consequences. Kind of like those freakshows that can chain smoke from their 16th birthday to their 100th without a single health issue.

Genetics are a weird thing. The key here, though, for our friend jaylabs, is that those people are uncommon to the point of being abnormalities. The normal state for people who don't exercise as they age is for their metabolism to slow and cause them to get fatter.

There are some small number of people who can consume obnoxious amounts of food without ever gaining a pound, but they are outliers and can be simply removed from the dataset.
 
2012-10-19 01:47:13 PM

boogie_down: Sounds like a lot of people in this thread are gonna die soon.

Too bad, I like the Fark community.


Ha! Yeah, right. I drink 100 cans of soda a day, and I feel perfe
 
2012-10-19 01:47:14 PM

TNel: That whole article is just bs crap.

#1. No proof but it might be the cause
#2. "Whether that link is attributed to an ingredient in diet soda or the drinkers' eating habits is unclear. But is that one can really worth it?" So it's not the drinks fault but the persons.
#3. "That means people who consume diet foods might be more likely to overeat, because your body is being tricked into thinking it's eating sugar, and you crave more." Again same thing not the drinks fault.
#4. Get drunk faster... I'm in!!!!
#5. As per the article they don't use that ingrediant anymore and the new one in pure form (not mixed) is an irritant.. Who cares I'm not mixing it myself
#6. Pepsi is 2.46 which is MORE acidic than diet pepsi
#7. "Sometimes, the vessel for your beverage is just as harmful. Diet or not, soft drink cans are coated with the endocrine disruptor bisphenol A (BPA), which has been linked to everything from heart disease to obesity to reproductive problems. That's a lot of risktaking for one can of pop." WTF is this crap

Wow that was someone that likes normal soft drinks and wanted to try and justify why Diet ones are bad. Don't get into the positives just look at rumored negatives.


I'm just surprised a hit piece like this isn't on CNN.

#1, #5, and #7 are all true... in massive quantities, like water-poisoning quantities if soda is your main vehicle. Rats need something like the equivalent of 100 cans a day to even start showing effects, and for one of them I think it was 1000 cans a day worth. Proportional math, what is it good for?

Oh, and #5 and #7 are in regular soda, too. I think it's not a diet lover, it's a water or tea puritan who wants to make anyone enjoying something sweet feel guilty, whose only vice is fine wine and thinks beer and liquor are evil. I used to meet them a little too often, now I mostly hang out with the drunken art crowd who doesn't give a damn.

Unless you're fat. Hipsters hate fatties and mostly exist on the cheap beer diet.
 
2012-10-19 01:49:16 PM
I also heard diet soda drinkers are more likely to be overweight!
 
2012-10-19 01:49:57 PM

CrappityCrap: Any kind of soda is bad for you. Whether diet or regular.

/drink water instead


What about baking?

/Alright, that was lame
//Need coffee
 
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2012-10-19 01:50:56 PM
I don't drink soda or diet soda much, but I like to keep some of this around the house.

www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com

0 calories, 0 nutrasweet and 0 mg of sodium. Sodium can cause weight gain by making you retain more water than you need.

The soda tastes ok for diet soda but since I don't drink it much it doesn't really matter, sometimes I need something that tastes sweeter than unsweetened tea, beer, coffee or water.
 
2012-10-19 01:54:24 PM

Mr.BobDobalita: Well played SUBBY... I LoLd....



I don't see why people say DIET TASTES LIKE CRAP!!! It's not supposed to taste the same and is an entirely different product.

It's like trying to say "Sprite tastes like crap... it tastes nothing like Pepsi.."


That said, yes, it's bad for you in excess... just like anything else.


Actually, diet sodas ARE supposed to taste the same as their sugary counterparts (or as close as the formulators can make them).

And they do taste like crap.
 
2012-10-19 02:10:02 PM
I don't drink soda at all any more, regular or diet. Maybe once in a blue moon at a movie theatre. I switched to sparkling mineral water, sometimes the fruit flavored ones. Soda tastes way too sweet now.
 
2012-10-19 02:11:37 PM

mizchief: TNel: That whole article is just bs crap.

#1. No proof but it might be the cause
#2. "Whether that link is attributed to an ingredient in diet soda or the drinkers' eating habits is unclear. But is that one can really worth it?" So it's not the drinks fault but the persons.
#3. "That means people who consume diet foods might be more likely to overeat, because your body is being tricked into thinking it's eating sugar, and you crave more." Again same thing not the drinks fault.
#4. Get drunk faster... I'm in!!!!
#5. As per the article they don't use that ingrediant anymore and the new one in pure form (not mixed) is an irritant.. Who cares I'm not mixing it myself
#6. Pepsi is 2.46 which is MORE acidic than diet pepsi
#7. "Sometimes, the vessel for your beverage is just as harmful. Diet or not, soft drink cans are coated with the endocrine disruptor bisphenol A (BPA), which has been linked to everything from heart disease to obesity to reproductive problems. That's a lot of risktaking for one can of pop." WTF is this crap

Wow that was someone that likes normal soft drinks and wanted to try and justify why Diet ones are bad. Don't get into the positives just look at rumored negatives.

Thank you, was about to make the same point. And also couldn't you mitigate #6 by using a straw an bypassing your teeth? OJ is around 2.8 since it has more of the same citric acid

#7 was the only legit one assuming the claim is true.


*sigh* if you guys would prefer to ignore insights offered by science, that's your choice. but just to pick out one of these and address it - your arguments against point 6 do not address the point (TNel) or are mostly incorrect (mizchief). first, the article is about diet soda, not regular - this is not a treatise on drinking regular soda instead of diet. it's just an argument for not drinking diet soda, so a 3.2 pH may be low enough to support the position - you have to decide, they're your teeth. and the idea of a straw is productive, sort of, but largely misses the point - your mouth is a mucous membrane, so any contact with soda at the back of it will lead to contact with it, to some extent, in the rest of it. furthermore, the physiological reaction to food (or in this case a beverage) in your mouth is to create saliva, which also lowers the pH of your mouth. bottom line, both regular and diet soda directly AND indirectly damage your teeth, straw or not, and saying one is worse than the other does not, by itself, disprove that the one causes damage.

/you will be more healthy if you just drink water
 
2012-10-19 02:14:49 PM

TNel: That whole article is just bs crap.

#1. No proof but it might be the cause
#2. "Whether that link is attributed to an ingredient in diet soda or the drinkers' eating habits is unclear. But is that one can really worth it?" So it's not the drinks fault but the persons.
#3. "That means people who consume diet foods might be more likely to overeat, because your body is being tricked into thinking it's eating sugar, and you crave more." Again same thing not the drinks fault.
#4. Get drunk faster... I'm in!!!!
#5. As per the article they don't use that ingrediant anymore and the new one in pure form (not mixed) is an irritant.. Who cares I'm not mixing it myself
#6. Pepsi is 2.46 which is MORE acidic than diet pepsi
#7. "Sometimes, the vessel for your beverage is just as harmful. Diet or not, soft drink cans are coated with the endocrine disruptor bisphenol A (BPA), which has been linked to everything from heart disease to obesity to reproductive problems. That's a lot of risktaking for one can of pop." WTF is this crap

Wow that was someone that likes normal soft drinks and wanted to try and justify why Diet ones are bad. Don't get into the positives just look at rumored negatives.


At least some people aren't sheep. You and I know they've been spewing the same rhetoric for years. This is a typical fear mongering fill in Friday "I don't wanna work so I'll rehash" story.
 
2012-10-19 02:20:51 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Well...shiat.

I drink at least two diet sodas a day. Probably closer to four or five.

I am the poster child for part of what this article is about. I am borderline metabolic syndrome and I can't seem to lose weight. Maybe ten pounds here or there. My diet hasn't been stellar, but I should be losing more.

God damn it so much. I really like my Diet Coke.

Guess I'll have to ditch that and switch to Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Fark it all to hell.


I lost almost 100 pounds drinking Diet Coke and eating carbs (bagels, cereal, pizza, macaroni etc). If you listen to anyone, they'll tell you you can't have soda and carbs and still diet, just eat meat and tea. Bullshiat. If you keep your fat at 20gs a day and your calories at 1200 a day, you can eat cake for every meal as long as the slices are small enough. I only ate the occasional burger, hate steak/roast beef etc. I drink 3-4 liters of diet coke every day, have been sine high school (early 90s). I ain't dead yet.

For every scare tactic these authors put out there, I can show you a 85 yr old 3 pack a day smoker without lung cancer and a 92 year old daily Vodka drinker.
 
2012-10-19 02:23:23 PM
I agree that artificial sweeteners all taste crummy, I'd rather drink water than almost any diet soda (and often do). For me, there's only one exception, though it has its own limited flavor appeal and other factors: Monster Energy drink. I was drinking a couple of 16 ounce cans a day. I finally tried their diet version, 10 calories, and though I can still taste the hint of Aspartame, it's still very similar to the original and very easy to enjoy. I went even further and now drink the Monster Zero. No calories, and a bit less caffeine. I really can't tell it apart from the 'low cal' version.

I've tried many energy drinks, and most of them taste like punishment, but the Monster flavor is great to me.I definitely recommend giving it a try if you partake. It's easy to find for $2 or so a can, and Costco and Sams usually have cases of 24 for $25-$30 (closer to $30 most of the time).
 
2012-10-19 02:24:38 PM

Pezander: Seems like some people just hate the idea of fat people having anything to enjoy as they try to lose weight.


FTFY.

Seriously though, there is some good scientific evidence that artificial sweeteners are counterproductive for weight loss, although the mechanism by which this happens is still unknown. One hypothesis is that artificial sweetners are SO sweet (orders of magnitude sweeter per gram) that they over-stimulate your system and create cravings for more sweet stuff.

I'm trying to cut out diet soda, but I need a comparable caffeine source to function at work. I really don't like hot coffee and I drink unsweetened iced tea faster than I can brew it.
 
2012-10-19 02:30:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrY-zrXH9i0

from Hamburger the Motion Picture
 
2012-10-19 02:30:18 PM
Club soda is the best thing ever. All the fizz with none of the sweeteners, natural or unnatural or otherwise.
 
2012-10-19 02:37:12 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I'll take a rum and coke hold the coke and give me the bottle


Should we hold the hookers and Blackjack too?
 
2012-10-19 02:43:40 PM

palad: Club soda is the best thing ever. All the fizz with none of the sweeteners, natural or unnatural or otherwise.


Second best. Natural sparkling mineral water is best (preferably with calcium carbonate vs sodium carbonate). Club soda is a man-made imitation.

/loves me some San Pelligrino
 
2012-10-19 02:46:06 PM
I don't drink any of it - I dislike sweetened beverages. Unsweetened iced tea and black coffee for me, thanks.

Cola is great for mixing with whiskey or rum, though.

TFA left out a couple of actual issues, though - the phosphoric acid can disrupt the calcium balance in some people, and there's some question as to whether the caramel coloring causes problems with some people's immune systems.
 
2012-10-19 02:51:41 PM
Only artificially sweetened right? (for the other 6 reasons). Stevia soda won't do all that other crap.
 
2012-10-19 02:52:07 PM

clyph: Seriously though, there is some good scientific evidence that artificial sweeteners are counterproductive for weight loss, although the mechanism by which this happens is still unknown...


Here you go...the sweet taste in your mouth triggers a defensive release of insulin. There is, however, no sugar on which to work, so your blood sugar begins to drop. Your liver converts glycogen to make up for the drop, and you feel the urge to eat. The presence of insulin in your blood interrupts the release of fatty acids from fat storage, and when you DO eat to keep your blood sugar stable, you then tend to pack away pudge instead of burning it.
 
2012-10-19 03:09:35 PM
Nmissi: it also cut my soda-drinking habit down to nice, normal levels. I have one or two bottled sodas a day, now, not half a carton of cans.

Normal? doesnotmeanwhatyouthinkitmeans.jpg 

Perhaps normal in modern Real America™. Soda is horrible for you. Having one, much less two a day is not healthy.
 
2012-10-19 03:14:09 PM
I don't see why people say DIET TASTES LIKE CRAP!!! It's not supposed to taste the same and is an entirely different product.

It's like trying to say "Sprite tastes like crap... it tastes nothing like Pepsi.."


There are things that make your taste buds sing and things that taste like crap. Diet soda is the latter. It doesn't matter what taste they were trying for, it tastes like crap.

palad: Club soda is the best thing ever. All the fizz with none of the sweeteners, natural or unnatural or otherwise.

Not for bitter-tasters.

I'd like to get off soda, but coffee and tea are too bitter and I need the caffeine. I tried a 5-hour energy drink, but it didn't seem to have any effect.
 
2012-10-19 03:22:20 PM

Nogale: That having been said, Diet Dr. Pepper is the most normal-tasting diet soda on the market, IMHO. For a while I stuck with Zero Coke but it gave me the runs.


Not only that, but if I leave cans of diet dr pepper in the fridge at work, noone will steal it, because I am the only person here who knows its delicious.
 
2012-10-19 03:32:29 PM
Cell Damage
Diet sodas contain something many regular sodas don't: mold inhibitors. They go by the names sodium benzoate...


1.bp.blogspot.com
/does not approve
 
2012-10-19 03:37:54 PM

grandma's famous pot pie recipe: Nmissi: it also cut my soda-drinking habit down to nice, normal levels. I have one or two bottled sodas a day, now, not half a carton of cans.

Normal? doesnotmeanwhatyouthinkitmeans.jpg 

Perhaps normal in modern Real America™. Soda is horrible for you. Having one, much less two a day is not healthy.


It's not unhealthy, either.
 
2012-10-19 03:55:03 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: grandma's famous pot pie recipe: Nmissi: it also cut my soda-drinking habit down to nice, normal levels. I have one or two bottled sodas a day, now, not half a carton of cans.

Normal? doesnotmeanwhatyouthinkitmeans.jpg 

Perhaps normal in modern Real America™. Soda is horrible for you. Having one, much less two a day is not healthy.

It's not unhealthy, either.


I'll disagree with that, and say that consuming 40-100 grams of processed sugar per day IS unhealthy.

Perhaps I've listened to too much Robert Lustig. I do like a good polemic.
 
2012-10-19 03:58:18 PM

jaybeezey: Mock26: It tastes horrible! That is reason enough for me.

Have you had a Sprite Zero, it's far better than regular Sprite.


"Well that's just, like, your opinion, man." I went to grab a Sprite the other day at work and was shocked at how much it tasted like crap. I obviously wasn't paying attention and had grabbed a Sprite Zero. Has the same terrible diet taste and even worse aftertaste as all other diet drinks.
 
2012-10-19 04:08:24 PM

Optimal_Illusion: Smeggy Smurf: I'll take a rum and coke hold the coke and give me the bottle

Should we hold the hookers and Blackjack too?


Screw the hookers and cheat at blackjack
 
2012-10-19 04:29:16 PM

traylor: It took me a whole 3 weeks to get used to the taste of coke zero. After drinking it exclusively for 5 years I can't drink the sugary coke anymore. When I try it I can only taste sugar. Which makes me want to vomit.

It proves that the sugar tastes likes shiat.


Oh and btw if you wonder how much sugar there is in a cup of coke,

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]


Sugar or Corn Syrup?
 
2012-10-19 04:51:09 PM

Mock26: Sugar or Corn Syrup?


I live in the EU so it must be sugar made out of sugar beet.
 
2012-10-19 05:00:18 PM
Whatever

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2012-10-19 05:10:09 PM

ThurmanMerman: So basically, everything in life that I enjoy is going to kill me in one way or another.

/gotta die sometime


#YOLO
 
2012-10-19 05:17:04 PM
all goes back to swallow or spit.
 
2012-10-19 05:20:59 PM
A lot of runners drink diet soda. These are generally very healthy people who are smart enough to realize that drinking a couple hundred calories worth of sugar every day is stupid. OTOH people who are fat and drink diet soda are simply fat people who happen to also drink diet soda. If they replaced diet soda with water, they'd still be just as fat and unhealthy. The problem is not the diet soda. IMHO.
 
2012-10-19 05:27:50 PM

jaybeezey: Mock26: It tastes horrible! That is reason enough for me.

Have you had a Sprite Zero, it's far better than regular Sprite.


I've had it and, no, it isn't.


jaylabs: I remain unconvinced that food can have as extreme of an impact as we're lead to believe.


"I'm completely unlike 99% of the population, therefore 99% of the population is misguided". Does that really seem like a logical conclusion to you?


traylor: It proves that the sugar tastes likes shiat.


No it doesn't, it proves that we get accustomed to anything.
Coke Zero makes me want to vomit. Does that "prove" Coke Zero tastes like shiat?


NotARocketScientist: palad: Club soda is the best thing ever. All the fizz with none of the sweeteners, natural or unnatural or otherwise.

Not for bitter-tasters.


That's for damn sure. Club soda tastes terrible by itself.
 
2012-10-19 05:30:28 PM

jaybeezey: Mock26: It tastes horrible! That is reason enough for me.

Have you had a Sprite Zero, it's far better than regular Sprite.


Much to my regret, Yes. I have had Sprite Zero. I imagine that diabetic, syphilitic, rancid, watery horse piss tastes the same.
 
2012-10-19 05:33:33 PM
Being boarderline near-underweight, I skip out on the Diet soda. I can always use a few extra calories.

\Prefer Pepsi Throwback or Sierra Mist Natural...real sugar and doesn't cost anymore (when it's Pepsi's week to be "on sale" at the grocery store).
\Will drink Pepsi Next or Max though..they aren't terrible for diet sodas.
 
2012-10-19 05:53:22 PM

Gawdzila: traylor: It proves that the sugar tastes likes shiat.

No it doesn't, it proves that we get accustomed to anything.
Coke Zero makes me want to vomit. Does that "prove" Coke Zero tastes like shiat?



You are wrong, Coke Zero is absolutely fine, and sugar indeed tastes like shiat.

/take it easy, my original comment was made in the light of the prior comments in the thread, stating that artificial sweeteners taste like fecal matter
/see first and second comments
/no I don't know what real shiat tastes like
 
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