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2012-10-19 12:20:20 PM
9 votes:
This is the what men who are secure in their sexuality sound like.

I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor. But I do think that men who are secure in their sexuality really don't give a shiat about the sexuality of others.
2012-10-19 12:59:17 PM
8 votes:
Yep. Anti-gay rights people are farked in the head. Let us suppose "Roger" loves "Michael" and they have lived and loved together for ten years or so, or even six months. Who cares? They had a civil union ceremony because that is all they can get in their state. Roger's family disowned him years ago when they found out he was gay. Now Roger has cancer and is dying. Thanks to bigoted laws, the only people allowed to make decisions for him, visit him and take care of him are the same people who disowned him for his lifestyle.

Fark that shiat. It is bad enough his asshole family disowned him but now the law won't let him be comforted in his final days by someone who truly loves him?

If either of my kids turns out to be gay, that shiat will not happen. In another 50 years, this probably won't be an issue and our generation will be looked back at with incredulity at how small minded we were.

Hats off to Kluwe, and for you gay guys, pants off to Kluwe.
2012-10-19 03:44:45 PM
3 votes:
Chris Kluwe is f*cking awesome.
2012-10-19 03:19:39 PM
3 votes:

kid_icarus: That's always been my experience. When I was a kid I used to think all straight guys hated queers...then as I got older I realized it was actually just the immature asshat ones riddled with insecurity. And who wants to be friends with them, anyway?


For me, it was the day I realized that gay men are not in competition with me for tail. I started down the road thinking "wait, if every other man on earth were homosexual, then all the women would be mine."

From that day forward, I have been incredibly sympathetic to gay rights. I encourage other men to take up the cock.
2012-10-19 12:23:00 PM
3 votes:

Diogenes: This is the what men who are secure in their sexuality sound like.

I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor. But I do think that men who are secure in their sexuality really don't give a shiat about the sexuality of others.


That's always been my experience. When I was a kid I used to think all straight guys hated queers...then as I got older I realized it was actually just the immature asshat ones riddled with insecurity. And who wants to be friends with them, anyway?
2012-10-19 08:27:32 PM
2 votes:

Garble: Diogenes: This is the what men who are secure in their sexuality sound like.

I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor. But I do think that men who are secure in their sexuality really don't give a shiat about the sexuality of others.

I believe homophobia is the flip side of sexism. A person who believes women should be subservient to men believes that a relationship is based on dominance. From a sexist point of view, two men together means that one of them is being abused (by being forced to act as a woman).


It further explains why anti-homosexual slurs focus on the receiver (e.g. cawksucker, taking it up the ass, etc.) as opposed to the giver (no one calls anyone a beej-receiver as an insult); and also explains why they don't mind femme lesbians nearly as much.
2012-10-19 08:23:15 PM
2 votes:

Diogenes: This is the what men who are secure in their sexuality sound like.

I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor. But I do think that men who are secure in their sexuality really don't give a shiat about the sexuality of others.


I believe homophobia is the flip side of sexism. A person who believes women should be subservient to men believes that a relationship is based on dominance. From a sexist point of view, two men together means that one of them is being abused (by being forced to act as a woman).
2012-10-19 07:11:16 PM
2 votes:

MrEricSir: A guy who gets paid to jump on piles of sweaty men is in favor of gay marriage? What a shock.


Clearly you DNRTFA. This guy gets paid to avoid sweaty men at all costs.
2012-10-19 05:25:48 PM
2 votes:

Cerebral Knievel: Monogomous hetero couples have the option of getting married


And that's why SC's "standard argument" is full of shiat.
2012-10-19 04:39:27 PM
2 votes:
I'm not sure why the party of small government is filled with people who are perfectly okay with the government telling you who you can marry.
2012-10-19 04:29:24 PM
2 votes:
to go on te hetero angle, I must invoke my mother and my dead step father.

well... not really step they never married, and that was the problem, niether of them wanted to get married again, him, because he had been married to a succubus. that woman refused to sign any divorce papers so he was stuck out there in that way, my mother was of the belief that you only ever get married once. she wouldn't have married him anyways because of that ( shacking up apperntly was Okay though huh ma? ;-) love ya babe.)

they, my mother and charlie lived a very love filled life together for some 20 years, until the man got himself a bad case of the pancreatic cancer and died within four months of diagnosis. the old ex wife, knowing the man had ammased a mess of assets in realestate continued to refuse a divorce on the grounds she had thought she had won the redneck lottery.

there really wasn't any time to FIX anything.

so charlie died.... mom was the power of attorney, the executor of the will. stood by the mans bed side for the entire four months sitting with him as he passed away and as soon as it happened, the family ran all over the whole scene. the "wife" claimed the body, disreguarded any funeral wishes and proceeded to play the jilted widow card, sued my mother repeatidly, called her a whore of babylon and all that stuff. charlie had left that woman about 15 years prior to have ever meeting my mother might I add.

but that's where it stood... the jilted widow could make all that fuss because of her legal familial standing and it almost trumped all the legal Power of attorney stuff.

things could've been handled better all over the place, do not get me wrong. a lot of it was stubborn people being stubborn and screwing themselves and others in the process.

the point is, next of Kin laws mess with gay couples and non married hetero couples all the time. the case I point out is admittedly an extreme one, but an overriding point is that if you've been shacked up with your old lady for some 20 years, any old estranged family member can come in and throw a giant wrench into the works if you don't have that legal protection. straight couples usually, at least, have an option to fix that shiat, but gay couples, usually, do not.

it must also be noted, that back in the day, there were many fundies out there that considered anyone out of their racial and religious world view to either not have a, or have an inferior soul. So, to them, a white person wanting to be with a black person was like committing an act of Bestiality to them.
2012-10-19 03:27:35 PM
2 votes:

alienated: Mrtraveler01: Gay marriage has done the impossible:

It's made this Steelers fan actually support and defend a Baltimore Raven.

Its made a Packers fan like both a Viking and a Raven. Funny world


This Viking and his Ravens are a package deal:

3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-10-19 03:24:12 PM
2 votes:
Chris Kluwe? *checks* Chris Kluwe.


I'm not a vikings fan, but I may have to buy that guy's jersey.
2012-10-19 03:17:10 PM
2 votes:

Quasar: I love Chris Kluwe.

In a non-gay way.


Fark that, if the man shows up with flowers and a blood test I'd have to think about it.
2012-10-19 01:14:27 PM
2 votes:

SphericalTime: serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.

To whom would the rights go to, for unmarried people? Most of the time these rights involve things like property transfer, mutual ownership, or joint decisions in the case of incapacity. They sort of require a close relationship with a second person. For straight people, the state recognizes that with civil marriage. For gay people . . . on the federal level, they've basically got nothing.


I agree philosphicly with serial crusher there. But I also agree with Spherical time, that it is a straw man argument.

Monogomous hetero couples have the option of getting married at the last second if its the fan.

While there are many ways that they can protect themselves and thier loved ones, gay couples will always face the risk of a family member coming in at the last second and mucking it all up, and there not much recourse when that happens
2012-10-19 12:25:09 PM
2 votes:
In addition to being a hero for equal rights, Kluwe is gonna get so much tail for being outspoken like that. Chicks dig dudes whoa re straight, manly and yet have a heart.

I know, as I used to be pretty manly. I should work on getting that back.
2012-10-19 11:04:49 PM
1 votes:

Cerebral Knievel: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Dusk-You-n-Me: Diogenes: I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor.

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn

Because guys who you might think of as "homophobic" yet go sign up to watch male porn, are a great indicator of all guys who aren't cool with teh buttsex. Yeah, I could sign up for a study in which I have to watch animals being thrown into combines, but even though I've never seen any such thing, I'll still avoid that shiat at all costs.. now people who secretly enjoy torturing animals on the other hand, they'll probably sign up.

that is a good point, its a selective study at best.


Does anyone have a copy of the full paper (I can just find the abstract)? The recruitment for those studies typically (if done correctly) done so that the people signing up do not know the details of the study, if even the general field. The don't recruit as a "Come watch gay porn", they recruit as "Come participate in a sex study". They then ask all kinds of questions, some of which have no relevance to the study (1: "rate gay sex on 1 to 10, 1 being teh gay, 10 being awesomesauce"..... 2: Rate beer drinking.... 3: Rate art films... etc).

Then, you tell them they'll watch an explicit video (and explain the whole "why we're hooking up stuff to your junk"), but not tell them what the vids are, just that they must watch them to the end).

Now, I can't read the paper, so I don't know if it details the recruitment methodology, on if the authors actually know how to recruit or if they did it poorly and biased their data.
2012-10-19 10:41:00 PM
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: Diogenes: I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor.

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn


To do that test properly, you would need to make sure there isn't a big difference in the amount of gay porn that each group had already viewed. It would be best to test subjects that had not already watched significant amounts of gay porn. I just don't think you can find a statistically significant sample size of homophobic men that fit that criteria.
2012-10-19 10:21:52 PM
1 votes:
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2012-10-19 09:44:16 PM
1 votes:
BTW folks...

lustful c*ckmonsster....

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2012-10-19 08:14:54 PM
1 votes:

austerity101: If you want to buy into the idea that marriage is a onerous sacred institution, fine, but understand that you can't get the benefits until you actually marry someone.


That, plus you need to understand that that idea doesn't actually exist in the law, just your own head, so don't complain that the law is the problem and should be changed. :)
2012-10-19 08:12:23 PM
1 votes:
I just can't see where society has a compelling interest in preventing gay marriage.
I cannot get a response from any of the "anti's" on this.
Where is the compelling interest?
And , if there is not one, this being America - should not the default postion be to permit it?
I don't get it.
2012-10-19 08:05:01 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: austerity101: If you want the benefits of marriage, get married. Sorry that being married comes with certain legal and social responsibilities and repercussions, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

Part of the problem is that the people arguing for this are still thinking of marriage as the "sacred holy union" of religion, leading them to think "gosh, I can't marry my girlfriend of 4 years, because I'm just not ready yet! Or the wedding will be so expensive! Or I'm too young to get married! Or I don't know if we'll stay together!"
Marriage is a contract, and can have any reasonable conditions attached to it you want in a pre-nup or even post-nup in some states, and can be just as easily voided as any other contract (or bitterly fought over, just like any other contract). If more people thought of marriage like car insurance, we wouldn't have all these fights about it.


Yes, exactly. I put in the bit about "social responsibilities" but you explained it far better than I did. We ascribe a lot of emotional/spiritual/social meaning to marriage, and we don't have to. If you want to buy into the idea that marriage is a onerous sacred institution, fine, but understand that you can't get the benefits until you actually marry someone.

It doesn't have to be a big deal--we just make it one.
2012-10-19 07:21:31 PM
1 votes:

Rambino: MrEricSir: A guy who gets paid to jump on piles of sweaty men is in favor of gay marriage? What a shock.

Clearly you DNRTFA. This guy gets paid to avoid sweaty men at all costs.


Well, unless nobody else can manage to farking tackle the punt return.

And we ARE talking about the Vikes here.
2012-10-19 06:52:40 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: skepticultist: serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.

What?

How the hell would that even work? I mean take a sample issue: hospital visitation rights. You're suggesting that unmarried people should get the same visitation rights as spouses?

So...I should be able to visit a complete stranger in the hospital, speak to their doctor, make decisions regarding their care, in the same way their spouse would? That would be "equal rights?"

You're dumb.

CSB: My ex-girlfriend hospitalized herself on a ski trip with me. The hospital wouldn't let me visit her and wouldn't give me any info until her parents got there, like 10 hours later. Yeah, that pretty much sucked.

So, legalized gay marriage is a helpful bandaid for a tiny number of people who find themselves in that position, but if we fixed the root of the problem we could solve it for everybody.


Huh. When my fiance (then-girlfriend) had a stroke (in her late twenties. While I had brought her *home for thanksgiving break* for the first time, to meet my parents.), the ER doctors let me stay with her.

/She's completely, totally, amazingly fine now. The only thing is she says she "thinks she swallows" differently than she did before the stroke.
//UNC-Chapel Hill Hospital Neurologists, you are like tiny little gods.
2012-10-19 05:41:32 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.


What?

How the hell would that even work? I mean take a sample issue: hospital visitation rights. You're suggesting that unmarried people should get the same visitation rights as spouses?

So...I should be able to visit a complete stranger in the hospital, speak to their doctor, make decisions regarding their care, in the same way their spouse would? That would be "equal rights?"

You're dumb.
2012-10-19 05:27:03 PM
1 votes:
hooray kluwe.... and the other guy in the article.

but, basically, in 50 years, the next generations are going to look at us like we look at our grandparents with the issue of race. and we will be considered assholes, because this issue will be won in favor of civil rights. (it'll just take several decades)

there needs to be more people like kluwe speaking out to audiences who are not traditionally going to hear the argument, and who definitely won't hear the argument from a source that they will listen to.
2012-10-19 04:55:37 PM
1 votes:

Cerebral Knievel: the point is, next of Kin laws mess with gay couples and non married hetero couples all the time. the case I point out is admittedly an extreme one, but an overriding point is that if you've been shacked up with your old lady for some 20 years, any old estranged family member can come in and throw a giant wrench into the works if you don't have that legal protection. straight couples usually, at least, have an option to fix that shiat, but gay couples, usually, do not.


I was executor of the will of a friend of mine more than a few years ago. He and his partner were together some 30 years. When he died his sister came barging in, attempted to take over the funeral planning, demand access to the will, and started (literally) taking things. She threaten to sue and asked when his partner was going to move out. We finally cornered her in a bedroom and explained to her that the house, the property, the cars, etc wasn't in her brothers name and if she continued she would be forcibly removed from the premises. When my friend first came down with cancer the first time he started to quietly transfer all property to his partner - sometimes paying large sums of taxes in the process - so in the end he didn't really own anything of significance. She left in a huff and didn't bother coming to the funeral.

/made executing the will easy
//his partner is still contently living in the house
///many people don't have the luxury of time to get their affairs together
2012-10-19 04:23:32 PM
1 votes:
Chris Kluwe will debate a chair on this topic tonight. It will be moderated by a local radio personality.

Ms. Bachmann has not responded to her invitation.

Link
2012-10-19 04:09:01 PM
1 votes:

Aidan: Aidan: This reminds me of a site (that I can't find right now)

Found it! A Pragmatic Pro-Gay-Rights Argument


Unfortunately pragmatism is often overtaken by some people's "Ick Factor" and/or archaic thinking.
2012-10-19 03:58:58 PM
1 votes:
If you can play, you can play

NHL is on-board as are a ton of minor and college hockey teams. Every major and minor league should be on-board with this campaign.

Really...that's what it comes down to. If you can play, then you can play.
2012-10-19 03:51:47 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: In addition to being a hero for equal rights, Kluwe is gonna get so much tail for being outspoken like that. Chicks dig dudes whoa re straight, manly and yet have a heart.

I know, as I used to be pretty manly. I should work on getting that back.


He's married. And part of the reason he is speaking out is because his brother-in-law is gay.
2012-10-19 03:38:50 PM
1 votes:
The one thing that I noticed about the fundie crowd when they were prattling on this one time about all the "immorality" that they imagined that went on a gay pride parade .. they reminded me of the gay guy you some times see at the bar a sort of bar fly that gossips about everyone and everyone's sex life and they want to tell you every detail -- that is the christian fundie -- I personally do not think of what the old people next door do in their bedroom ,, i don't think of what the Gay guy across the street does either ( I m in Canada so this whole thing ( gay marriage ) now is like watching people argue over if the world is round .

If gay people want to choose one person in this world and say that they love them above all others and they get their stuff when they are dead and pull the plug when a vegetable and make it all legal and binding and have no way some douche bag religion to butt in later and say "" Ohhhh we mean real 'marriage' not your 'civil union ' , so you may not visit your dying loved one ! .... Fark it let gay people marry it is a contract nothing more .
2012-10-19 03:38:41 PM
1 votes:

antidisestablishmentarianism: You know Ayanbadejo used to be a Bear right?


Nobody is perfect
2012-10-19 03:25:34 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Cerebral Knievel: SphericalTime: serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.

To whom would the rights go to, for unmarried people? Most of the time these rights involve things like property transfer, mutual ownership, or joint decisions in the case of incapacity. They sort of require a close relationship with a second person. For straight people, the state recognizes that with civil marriage. For gay people . . . on the federal level, they've basically got nothing.

I agree philosphicly with serial crusher there. But I also agree with Spherical time, that it is a straw man argument.

Monogomous hetero couples have the option of getting married at the last second if its the fan.

While there are many ways that they can protect themselves and thier loved ones, gay couples will always face the risk of a family member coming in at the last second and mucking it all up, and there not much recourse when that happens

What specifically are you talking about family members mucking up? Is this the "I'm in a coma, spouse knows I want to pull the plug, fundie parents don't want to" situation?
1) How'd that turn out for Terri Schiavo
2) Doesn't an unmarried person who disagrees with his parents have the same problem?

I just don't think a marriage certificate is the right solution to that one.




Cute, but basically misses the point. Gay couples, in circumstances sufficiently similar to those of straight couples, are treated differently under the law. The fact that single individuals - individuals in circumstances that are nothing at all like those of a gay or straight couple - are treated differently under the law is entirely unremarkable, insofar as the law treats people in different circumstances differently by design. Different tax rates for people with different incomes. Different laws for people of different ages (i.e. minors vs adults). See how that works?

Also, Terri Schiavo, really? You want to use THAT to make a point?

I once got into a debate with this gay acquaintance about gay marriage, which he was opposed to. What reason, I asked him, could a gay person have for opposing gay marriage?! He told me he had a longterm relationship with a guy that turned out to be a real asshole, and had gay marriage been legal, he would surely have married him and now he'd be married to aforementioned asshole.

You sound like that guy.
2012-10-19 03:24:50 PM
1 votes:

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: kid_icarus: That's always been my experience. When I was a kid I used to think all straight guys hated queers...then as I got older I realized it was actually just the immature asshat ones riddled with insecurity. And who wants to be friends with them, anyway?

For me, it was the day I realized that gay men are not in competition with me for tail. I started down the road thinking "wait, if every other man on earth were homosexual, then all the women would be mine."

From that day forward, I have been incredibly sympathetic to gay rights. I encourage other men to take up the cock.


And we can be highly effective wing men for our straight friends.
2012-10-19 03:23:29 PM
1 votes:
Seriously, what is this headline?

"Are athletes who speak their minds out of bounds?"

It's like, fark, I work in retail. I'm not going to listen to 'shut up and stock'. Why should Kluwe have to listen to 'shut up and kick'?
2012-10-19 03:22:50 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Cerebral Knievel: SphericalTime: serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.

To whom would the rights go to, for unmarried people? Most of the time these rights involve things like property transfer, mutual ownership, or joint decisions in the case of incapacity. They sort of require a close relationship with a second person. For straight people, the state recognizes that with civil marriage. For gay people . . . on the federal level, they've basically got nothing.

I agree philosphicly with serial crusher there. But I also agree with Spherical time, that it is a straw man argument.

Monogomous hetero couples have the option of getting married at the last second if its the fan.

While there are many ways that they can protect themselves and thier loved ones, gay couples will always face the risk of a family member coming in at the last second and mucking it all up, and there not much recourse when that happens

What specifically are you talking about family members mucking up? Is this the "I'm in a coma, spouse knows I want to pull the plug, fundie parents don't want to" situation?
1) How'd that turn out for Terri Schiavo
2) Doesn't an unmarried person who disagrees with his parents have the same problem?

I just don't think a marriage certificate is the right solution to that one.


See this.

serial_crusher: SphericalTime: serial_crusher: I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.

To whom would the rights go to, for unmarried people? Most of the time these rights involve things like property transfer, mutual ownership, or joint decisions in the case of incapacity. They sort of require a close relationship with a second person. For straight people, the state recognizes that with civil marriage. For gay people . . . on the federal level, they've basically got nothing.

Income tax rates are my big gripe. They can either help or hurt depending on your respective income levels. In my perfect world, the IRS would expect married couples to file two individual returns, with no special checkboxes or different rates.
(I'd also settle for making it legal to marry my dog. Under the current tax code, a stay at home spouse would save me a shiatload of money).


I can kind of see that, although marriage laws in this country were specifically written to make it easier for a man to support his stay at home wife. Even now, the tax codes do benefit a division-of-labor couple, one who makes more and another who can do more around the house. But you're asking for the benefit for yourself . . . alone. I can see the benefit for a couple, but I'm not sure what applying the discount to single people would do, aside from lower a whole bunch of people's taxes. Might as well just ask for a tax break.

serial_crusher: For most cases I'd rather see the privileges taken away from married couples rather than granted to unmarried individuals. Say, tax free inheritance. Ideally I'd like to see your spouse just have to pay inheritance taxes just like any other person would if you willed something to them. Or alternatively, get rid of inheritance taxes for everybody.


Gods, that's . . . I mean. That applies to property as well, you know? A minorly famous gay science fiction writer committed suicide when his partner died and he was asked to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes for inheriting half of their shared NYC apartment. He didn't have the money. And think of all the straight couples that could be utterly devastated by this if it were removed . . .

I'm gay, in MA, but not married to my boyfriend of four years. I make a decent living, but he makes a lot more than I do. If we did get married and he later died, I wouldn't be able to keep the house. I'd basically lose everything.

serial_crusher: On the joint decisions in case of incapacity thing, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to pick an arbitrary person to make those decisions for me. Of course, I can fill out some paperwork to give somebody power of attorney to solve that problem. But, so can a gay couple, so there's really no reason to include it in the discussion. You can argue that it's unfair that gay couples have to pay more money to file powers of attorney than straight couples do to get a marriage certificate, but then isn't it also unfair that a single person has to pay more? Lower prices ...


Er . . . no, it's a lot more than that. Visitation, co-adoption, and a whole host of other things that really can't be covered by power of attorney. Not to mention that you actually have to present paperwork at the time that you're invoking power of attorney.
2012-10-19 03:17:01 PM
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: Dusk-You-n-Me: Diogenes: I don't subscribe to the idea that all men who hate gays are secretly gay themselves, though I think that's sometimes a factor.

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn

I bet Gay Men are Most Aroused by Gay Porn.


Precisely.
2012-10-19 03:13:29 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Gay marriage has done the impossible:

It's made this Steelers fan actually support and defend a Baltimore Raven.


Its made a Packers fan like both a Viking and a Raven . Funny world
2012-10-19 02:22:59 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Jackson Herring: Diogenes: Now I want to go as a lustful c**kmonster.

You need a costume for that?

I have to dress down to that level.


i.imgur.com
2012-10-19 01:45:00 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: Diogenes: Now I want to go as a lustful c**kmonster.

You need a costume for that?


I have to dress down to that level.
2012-10-19 01:41:29 PM
1 votes:
Chris Kluwe can be sort of hit-or-miss with me with his opinions, but he's dead-on right here. And "lustful c**kmonster" makes me guffaw out loud.
2012-10-19 01:07:33 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Yep. Anti-gay rights people are farked in the head. Let us suppose "Roger" loves "Michael" and they have lived and loved together for ten years or so, or even six months. Who cares? They had a civil union ceremony because that is all they can get in their state. Roger's family disowned him years ago when they found out he was gay. Now Roger has cancer and is dying. Thanks to bigoted laws, the only people allowed to make decisions for him, visit him and take care of him are the same people who disowned him for his lifestyle.

Fark that shiat. It is bad enough his asshole family disowned him but now the law won't let him be comforted in his final days by someone who truly loves him?


I saw a documentary where a man in the Northern midwest had his home taken away from him after his partner died due to a technicality in the will that was challenged by estranged family members (cousins, no less) of the deceased. It all pretty much came down to the ruling of one judge, who was most likely a bigoted prick.

The surviving member of that couple was a sad sight to see. Not sure if it was his natural demeanor, but he seemed to be struggling with a mild depression at the time of the interview. He had a large storage shed/container that the extended family of the deceased had broken into to steal things as well, as if being awarded the property and the house wasn't enough.

Pretty sad.
2012-10-19 12:47:48 PM
1 votes:
I know nothing about football whatsover but based on this statement alone I suppose I could call this guy my favourite football player.
2012-10-19 12:25:13 PM
1 votes:
I'm going to bring up my standard gripe about the "equal rights" talk being disingenuous. If you really wanted equal rights, you'd have a problem with all unmarried people being denied the benefits that come along with marriage, not just gay couples.
2012-10-19 12:20:17 PM
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Diogenes: TheManofPA: How can we be so sure that he hasn't turned into a lustful c**kmonster after the magazine interview?

/love Kluwe's twitter
//gotta learn English

I wasn't going to get dressed up for Halloween this year. Now I want to go as a lustful c**kmonster.


There's an nsfw photo out there that you'll probably find if you GIS "dildo costume", but I'm not going to do that because, well, I'm at work.
2012-10-19 12:14:15 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: TheManofPA: How can we be so sure that he hasn't turned into a lustful c**kmonster after the magazine interview?

/love Kluwe's twitter
//gotta learn English

I wasn't going to get dressed up for Halloween this year. Now I want to go as a lustful c**kmonster.


Take pics. I gotta see your interpretation of a 'lustful c**kmonster."
2012-10-19 11:49:35 AM
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says straight NFL football player getting flack for being pro-gay marriage

Nobody will give Kluwe flack, mainly because they're scared to death that he'll eviscerate them with his awesome replies.

I love the guy, definitely my favorite player in the NFL.
 
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