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(Fox News)   War may be imminent between China and Japan over disputed islands in the East China Sea. Possibly a repeat from 1534 and 1895   (foxnews.com) divider line 138
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2012-10-19 02:38:56 PM

Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry Fark Account: StoneColdAtheist: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: AliceBToklasLives: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: gopher321: StoneColdAtheist: Note to China: Be on the alert for sneak attacks.

False: "for a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times. From that alliance has come an era of peace in the Pacific."

WUT? Did I miss a meeting? I don't even...wut?

LOL...that was my reaction. ;)

From ~1950-2000; half the 20th century. 2001-2012, the entirety of the known 21st century. Thus, century and a half.


Oh. Didn't get that. And that's why I don't have a Yale/Harvard education and the author of the quote does.
 
2012-10-19 02:43:57 PM

myrrh: Underscoring China's sharper stance, it also protested the scrambling of a Japanese military plane in the direction of the disputed islands

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When I lived in Tulsa there was a guy who owned a replica Zero that flew in Tora! Tora! Tora!

Kind of weird to be outside and see it flying overhead complete with a torpedo underneath.
 
2012-10-19 02:49:57 PM
A word of warning to China: Never, ever defeat Japan in a war.
You will live to regret it.
 
2012-10-19 02:55:30 PM
War may be imminent

Holy shiat! That's serious!!!

Oh... Fox News. Fark that shiat. Seriously.
 
2012-10-19 02:56:48 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: myrrh: Underscoring China's sharper stance, it also protested the scrambling of a Japanese military plane in the direction of the disputed islands

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When I lived in Tulsa there was a guy who owned a replica Zero that flew in Tora! Tora! Tora!

Kind of weird to be outside and see it flying overhead complete with a torpedo underneath.


Wasn't a zero if it was a torpedo underneath.
Drop tank maybe.
If it was a torpedo he was flying a Kate, Jill, or Grace. (B5N, B6N, and B7A, respectively)
 
2012-10-19 02:57:36 PM
No subby. Don't confuse a Faux Noise story with reality.

/The USSA and Japan have a defense pact. Touch one little hair on one little Japanese head and you'll be dealing with some incoming cruise missiles.
 
2012-10-19 03:11:16 PM

fat boy: StoneColdAtheist: Note to China: Be on the alert for sneak attacks.

They also surrender after a couple of nukes.


pnmedia.gamespy.com

And China is generous... so generous...
 
2012-10-19 03:18:45 PM
Both of these two need to realize Formosa isn't worth the trouble.
 
2012-10-19 03:22:38 PM

jso2897: A word of warning to China: Never, ever defeat Japan in a war.
You will live to regret it.


Care to elaborate?
 
2012-10-19 03:47:31 PM
So Mecha godzilla is about to be brought out?
 
2012-10-19 03:47:37 PM

ceebeecates4: jso2897: A word of warning to China: Never, ever defeat Japan in a war.
You will live to regret it.

Care to elaborate?


I'd guess he's talking about how prosperous Japan became after we defeated it in WWII. Remember how we used to manufacture electronics in the US? Not anymore. First they went to Japan, then to China.
 
2012-10-19 03:55:09 PM
...now all we need is for a Chinese anarchist to assassinate an arch-duke in Japan and we'll be all set for WWI v2.0 or "All Really Quiet on the Western Front".
 
2012-10-19 04:32:39 PM
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"How come every time a hard-working Chinese man open a business, some smelly Japanese dog has to come and try invade him?"
 
2012-10-19 04:47:44 PM
Don't forget 1931 when they occupied Manchuria. Oh and 1937 where they tried to get more Chinese land.
 
2012-10-19 05:42:28 PM
AD 2012. War was beginning.
What happen ?
Somebody set up us the bomb.
We get signal.
What !
Main screen turn on.
It's you !!
How are you gentlemen !!
All your island are belong to us.
You are on the way to destruction.
What you say !!
You have no chance to survive make your time.
Ha ha ha ha ...
Captain !!
Take off every 'SHIP'!!
You know what you doing.
Move 'SHIP'.
For great justice.
 
2012-10-19 05:54:05 PM
I know they're in a military dick-waving contest, but is there a non-Faux source that thinks this has a real chance of escalating into a war?
 
2012-10-19 06:16:05 PM
We had our Chinese team visiting recently and I actually asked one of the girls (who spoke some English) what she thought of it and she almost blew a gasket for me even asking. It got worse when I asked why they couldn't share the island because she said that their leader said it was theirs and war is the only option.

It was odd talking to someone who couldn't grasp the possibility of other solutions to a problem.
 
2012-10-19 07:04:32 PM

WhoGAS: We had our Chinese team visiting recently and I actually asked one of the girls (who spoke some English) what she thought of it and she almost blew a gasket for me even asking. It got worse when I asked why they couldn't share the island because she said that their leader said it was theirs and war is the only option.

It was odd talking to someone who couldn't grasp the possibility of other solutions to a problem.


Did she still fark you?
 
2012-10-19 07:10:50 PM

WhoGAS: We had our Chinese team visiting recently and I actually asked one of the girls (who spoke some English) what she thought of it and she almost blew a gasket for me even asking. It got worse when I asked why they couldn't share the island because she said that their leader said it was theirs and war is the only option.

It was odd talking to someone who couldn't grasp the possibility of other solutions to a problem.


In AD 2012. War was beginning. What happen? Somebody set us up the bomb. We get signal. What! Main screen turn on. All your island are belong to us!

/for great justice
 
2012-10-19 08:26:08 PM

uber humper: WhoGAS: We had our Chinese team visiting recently and I actually asked one of the girls (who spoke some English) what she thought of it and she almost blew a gasket for me even asking. It got worse when I asked why they couldn't share the island because she said that their leader said it was theirs and war is the only option.

It was odd talking to someone who couldn't grasp the possibility of other solutions to a problem.

Did she still fark you?


Oh, god no! I'm far too fat for that.
 
2012-10-19 08:40:12 PM
Save for the fact that US is bound to defend Japan in a conflict, I wonder if Japan could hold out long enough against a Chinese attack for the US to assemble enough forces to make any level of difference.
 
2012-10-19 08:44:48 PM
I looked up the location of Yonaguni, and... Japan needs to stfu on this one. It's a joke that they're up in arms about Chinese ships there. Do they seriously expect to be allowed to wall off the East China Sea because of their little string of 742 sandbars?
 
2012-10-19 08:52:34 PM

WhoGAS: uber humper: WhoGAS: We had our Chinese team visiting recently and I actually asked one of the girls (who spoke some English) what she thought of it and she almost blew a gasket for me even asking. It got worse when I asked why they couldn't share the island because she said that their leader said it was theirs and war is the only option.

It was odd talking to someone who couldn't grasp the possibility of other solutions to a problem.

Did she still fark you?

Oh, god no! I'm far too fat for that.


yea, that's one thing about Chinese women, they don't make 'em very sturdy.
 
2012-10-19 09:11:37 PM
In 50 years Japan will be called East China. It's what happens when you don't produce children to go to war and your neighbors have produced like Pfizer-fed rabbits.

// that's if we don't "I am Legend" ourselves foist.
/ or something
 
2012-10-19 09:33:56 PM
Fox News needs to calms down. Nobody in the Chinese or Japanese governments want there to be any shooting.
 
2012-10-19 09:40:36 PM

jpo2269: Save for the fact that US is bound to defend Japan in a conflict, I wonder if Japan could hold out long enough against a Chinese attack for the US to assemble enough forces to make any level of difference.


Unless China sent a couple nukes flying Japan could hold China off. The Japanese have a more modern and better trained navy. There's also the Japanase air force (F-15's). Also you do realise the US has a large military presence in Japan right? 3rd Marine division (Okinawa mainly), 3rd Marine airwing (Okinawa/mainland Japan), Kadena AFB (Okinawa). I think our Navy has ships home ported in Japan though not sure on carriers since they retired the Kittyhawk. They did not allow nuclear vessels to ports, I don't know if thats changed. I'm sure I missed some more of our assets there. In 20-30 years maybe they could beat Japan. Present time I highly doubt it.
 
2012-10-19 09:42:35 PM

Bucky Katt: Fox News needs to calms down. Nobody in the Chinese or Japanese governments want there to be any shooting.


They don't want shooting, they want their islands.
 
2012-10-19 10:00:37 PM
Actually...the Chinese REALLY REALLY hate the Japanese. No I mean it. So is war imminent....no. The rulers of both countries know how much of a clusterfark it would be. The thing that actually concerns people is that someone could make a drastic miscalculation or mistake....and bad things would happen. How much, or how far is hard to say. Its why folks are a bit nervous here.

One other concern is that the Chinese leadership might be thinking a small war COULD be the ticket to blame for other woes. Its a REALLY bad plan as I dont think the US would be as restricted as the chinese think we would be if they say...took out a carrier. Yeah. So theres some concern that people are either going to make a stupid mistake, or if some leadership position level guy doesn't understand the seriousness of what would occur in a conflict. Even worse is occasionally someone buys into their own propoganda
 
2012-10-19 10:49:58 PM

DECMATH: martid4: It would be tough picking sides since they all look alike.

Hey enough with the Canada/US wisecracks. It's getting old.


Nah, Canadians are unique because they rarely get out in the sun. They don't even need x-rays, they just hold them up to the light.
 
2012-10-19 11:15:30 PM

gopher321: d23: Arkanaut: d23:
There are hot Chinese girls in Taiwan as well...



*facepalm*


Why? He's not wrong. People of Taiwan, unless aboriginals, are ethnic Chinese, with Chinese language, culture, and traditions. frkkien and Hakka are just dialects, not ethnicities.
 
2012-10-20 12:09:30 AM

Greywar: Actually...the Chinese REALLY REALLY hate the Japanese. No I mean it. So is war imminent....no. The rulers of both countries know how much of a clusterfark it would be. The thing that actually concerns people is that someone could make a drastic miscalculation or mistake....and bad things would happen. How much, or how far is hard to say. Its why folks are a bit nervous here.

One other concern is that the Chinese leadership might be thinking a small war COULD be the ticket to blame for other woes. Its a REALLY bad plan as I dont think the US would be as restricted as the chinese think we would be if they say...took out a carrier. Yeah. So theres some concern that people are either going to make a stupid mistake, or if some leadership position level guy doesn't understand the seriousness of what would occur in a conflict. Even worse is occasionally someone buys into their own propoganda


China invaded India, unless India invaded China. It depends on who you ask. But in the end, if things go south for a country of a billion people, they'll find someone to have a war with. Bringing ill-gotten booty home and taking over dead people's land are always a solution to a sour economy.
 
2012-10-20 12:18:47 AM

Intoxoman: jpo2269: Save for the fact that US is bound to defend Japan in a conflict, I wonder if Japan could hold out long enough against a Chinese attack for the US to assemble enough forces to make any level of difference.

Unless China sent a couple nukes flying Japan could hold China off. The Japanese have a more modern and better trained navy. There's also the Japanase air force (F-15's). Also you do realise the US has a large military presence in Japan right? 3rd Marine division (Okinawa mainly), 3rd Marine airwing (Okinawa/mainland Japan), Kadena AFB (Okinawa). I think our Navy has ships home ported in Japan though not sure on carriers since they retired the Kittyhawk. They did not allow nuclear vessels to ports, I don't know if thats changed. I'm sure I missed some more of our assets there. In 20-30 years maybe they could beat Japan. Present time I highly doubt it.


The USS George Washington is always in the area. That's a LOT of force projection for the Americans right there.
 
2012-10-20 01:34:53 AM

jpo2269: Save for the fact that US is bound to defend Japan in a conflict, I wonder if Japan could hold out long enough against a Chinese attack for the US to assemble enough forces to make any level of difference.


I read somewhere (seemed legit) that it would take Japan no more than 2 weeks to have 1 or more operational nukes, with delivery systems.
 
2012-10-20 01:36:29 AM
Also of interest. After we withdrew from Vietnam, China tried to pull some shiat with the North Vietnamese. The NVA cleaned their clocks.
 
2012-10-20 03:41:33 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Also of interest. After we withdrew from Vietnam, China tried to pull some shiat with the North Vietnamese. The NVA cleaned their clocks.


Yup. They may not admit it, but the war with the NVA shows them that they needed to modernize. They still believed in human wave attacks with crap equipment up to that point, but after the NVA showed them tactics can make up for numbers, the Chinese started to modernize their military to European and American tactics and training in utilizing specialized and well equipped teams rather than those idiot human wave attacks.
 
2012-10-20 01:18:48 PM

Dadoody: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Also of interest. After we withdrew from Vietnam, China tried to pull some shiat with the North Vietnamese. The NVA cleaned their clocks.

Yup. They may not admit it, but the war with the NVA shows them that they needed to modernize. They still believed in human wave attacks with crap equipment up to that point, but after the NVA showed them tactics can make up for numbers, the Chinese started to modernize their military to European and American tactics and training in utilizing specialized and well equipped teams rather than those idiot human wave attacks.


It's amazing Korea didn't do that. With the number of troops they comitted, they should have easily pushed us into the sea. Instead the best they could manage was stalemate.
 
2012-10-22 08:23:39 AM

Soymilk: gopher321: d23: Arkanaut: d23:
There are hot Chinese girls in Taiwan as well...



*facepalm*

Why? He's not wrong. People of Taiwan, unless aboriginals, are ethnic Chinese, with Chinese language, culture, and traditions. frkkien and Hakka are just dialects, not ethnicities.


Because it's like saying there are hot French girls in Quebec- it's stating the obvious. YEAH, NO SH*T, SHERLOCK.
 
2012-10-22 01:14:01 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: When I lived in Tulsa there was a guy who owned a replica Zero that flew in Tora! Tora! Tora!

Kind of weird to be outside and see it flying overhead complete with a torpedo underneath.


Not weird, he's just looking for a ship.
 
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