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2012-10-19 08:24:33 AM  
God dammit. Just admit that you farked up and be a man about it! Stop being a douche.
 
2012-10-19 08:31:54 AM  

TV's Vinnie: God dammit. Just admit that you farked up and be a man about it! Stop being a douche.


He didn't fark up at all. He is a total douche, and he has no choice in the matter. He will only stop being a douche on the day that he dies. And a pedo douche, at that.
 
2012-10-19 08:31:57 AM  
" I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.
 
2012-10-19 08:34:03 AM  
Classic Homer: "Yes sir. I'm sorry, sir. An older boy made me do it, sir."
 
2012-10-19 08:34:12 AM  

ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.


What is reddit, again?
 
2012-10-19 08:34:35 AM  

TV's Vinnie: God dammit. Just admit that you farked up and be a man about it! Stop being a douche.


He's obviously Republican, as they don't apologize for anything.

In truth, he's just milking this for everything it's worth. I'm confident he has an Internet Addiction, and he somehow thinks he's gone meta with his posts and is 'popular' in real life now. Some trolls will try to spin everything going on into a troll attempt. Somewhere in his brain, he's honest in his belief he's some kind of hero and has brought 'it' up a notch. What 'it' is is anybody's guess, but he needs help. He doesn't think what he has done is wrong, and is only remorseful he doesn't get paid to ignore work and post on Reddit anymore.

He's a hypocrite! Now, if you'll excuse me, there's a thread in the Politics I need to get back to.
 
2012-10-19 08:36:37 AM  
Oh, look. A typically whiny crybaby who enjoyed hiding behind the protections of free speech and internet anonymity to be an awful person doing awful things and then wanted to call a do-over when his anonymity was blown.

He did and said despicable shiat that he knew would have consequences for his employment and family if (when?) he was exposed and he chose to do them anyway. Well, too farking bad. If the government comes and wants to shut you up, let me know, but until then, go die in a gutter you bottom-feeding scumsucker.

Assholes like you and the admins on reddit don't protect free speech, you endanger it through selfish abuse for all those people who have unpopular but important things to say. With any luck this loser will be penniless and giving $0.50 BJs to truckers behind the local safeway before the year is out.
 
2012-10-19 08:37:24 AM  

ghostwind: ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.

What is reddit, again?


It's kind of like Fark for pedophiles.
 
2012-10-19 08:37:57 AM  

ghostwind: What is reddit, again?


Depending on how you want to look at it, it's either Fark without any of the charm and wit or 4chan without the prominent hyperlink to /b/.
 
2012-10-19 08:37:58 AM  

James!: ghostwind: ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.

What is reddit, again?

It's kind of like Fark for pedophiles.


Don't forget.. this guy HAS a Fark handle too.
 
2012-10-19 08:41:02 AM  

PallMall: James!: ghostwind: ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.

What is reddit, again?

It's kind of like Fark for pedophiles.

Don't forget.. this guy HAS a Fark handle too.


Anyone with an email address can get a Fark handle.  Reddit made him a moderator. 
 
2012-10-19 08:42:45 AM  
As someone who only went on Reddit like 5 minutes ago for the first time, I am having a hard time understanding this situation.

To me, it just sounds like one of those internet dramas that only users of a specific forum get into has spilled out into the real world. Please correct me, though.

//I'm not saying he doesn't sound like an idiot.
///I'm just saying that internet != real life.
 
2012-10-19 08:43:45 AM  

PallMall: James!: ghostwind: ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.

What is reddit, again?

It's kind of like Fark for pedophiles.

Don't forget.. this guy HAS a Fark handle too.


Who? And what was he posting that was so bad?
 
2012-10-19 08:44:28 AM  

James!: Reddit made him a moderator.


That's not a big deal, really. Anyone can start a sub-reddit and once you do, you are a moderator of it.
Or something like that.
 
2012-10-19 08:48:13 AM  

James!: PallMall: James!: ghostwind: ChrisDe: " I was playing to an audience of college kids"

There's no way the average age of reddit readers is college kids. Mid-teen, maybe.

What is reddit, again?

It's kind of like Fark for pedophiles.

Don't forget.. this guy HAS a Fark handle too.

Anyone with an email address can get a Fark handle.  Reddit made him a moderator.


You are automatically a moderator of any subreddit you create. Any user can create any subreddit they want. You want to have a place to discuss your love of Bavarian Smoked Cheese? It will take you 2 seconds and you'll instantly be a moderator of that section.
 
2012-10-19 08:49:19 AM  
reddit's policy on how someone becomes a moderator doesn't excuse them from allowing this f*cked up subreddits to exist for so long.
 
2012-10-19 08:50:20 AM  

ModernLuddite: As someone who only went on Reddit like 5 minutes ago for the first time, I am having a hard time understanding this situation.

To me, it just sounds like one of those internet dramas that only users of a specific forum get into has spilled out into the real world. Please correct me, though.

//I'm not saying he doesn't sound like an idiot.
///I'm just saying that internet != real life.


I try to always post with the image in my head that everything I put out there on the net will be dredged up and picked over by some future cyber investigator. This is purely a mental exercise; I have no reason to think that a cyber investigator will ever need to be all up in my shiat. But it helps me to self-censor if I think, "If I go missing some day, would I want this post in my FBI file and possibly leaked to the media?" before I hit post. Doing so has stopped me from posting some of the more outrageous thoughts that run through my head.

Some, not all, unfortunately.
 
2012-10-19 08:50:36 AM  

ModernLuddite: ///I'm just saying that internet != real life.


The people in the exploitation pictures he posted were real. Yes, yes it is real life. Just like a conversation with a eprson on a phone is real life. Email is real life. Letters are real life.
 
2012-10-19 08:50:46 AM  
whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal

in the mean time, seth mcfarlane is basically peddling exact same shiat for 90 minutes every sunday in prime time and is getting $100,000,000 for it
 
2012-10-19 08:52:12 AM  
It's going to be hilarious when this sort of thing starts happening more and more. Imagine in about 5-10 years when a political candidate has his Freeper account tied back to him.
 
2012-10-19 08:54:40 AM  

Aquadyne: whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal


Isn't about the legality of it, though there is some grey area concerning the jailbait pics. In any case, this has been rehashed. this is not about protecting free speech. This is not about legality. This is about someone who did something the majority of society finds reprehensible, and thought he could do it because of this false sense of anonymity the internet provides. That anonymity is not protected by law. You are susceptible to being discovered, he was, society found out, and now he's dealing with the repercussions of his actions. Don't want this to happen to you? Don't do things like he did.
 
2012-10-19 08:56:40 AM  

Aquadyne: whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal

in the mean time, seth mcfarlane is basically peddling exact same shiat for 90 minutes every sunday in prime time and is getting $100,000,000 for it


And if Seth McFarelane wants to give VA a job making manatee jokes about dead sexualized children, he has that legal right. Just because you do something that is legal doesnt mean that you get to force other people to like you or want to hang around you.

Not wearing deodorant is 100% legal, but if you come to work smelling like the fetid drippings of a diseased yak anus, it may affect your continued employability.

Short form: We all get rights, including the right to not like the crap other people do. The first amendment wins!
 
2012-10-19 08:56:45 AM  

gulogulo: Aquadyne: whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal

Isn't about the legality of it, though there is some grey area concerning the jailbait pics. In any case, this has been rehashed. this is not about protecting free speech. This is not about legality. This is about someone who did something the majority of society finds reprehensible, and thought he could do it because of this false sense of anonymity the internet provides. That anonymity is not protected by law. You are susceptible to being discovered, he was, society found out, and now he's dealing with the repercussions of his actions. Don't want this to happen to you? Don't do things like he did.


Not only that he was found out in part because he went to an in real life meet up for redditors and told people his username.
 
2012-10-19 08:57:35 AM  
Stop feeding the trolls, CNN.
 
2012-10-19 08:57:53 AM  
this guy having his life ruined is hypocrite bullshiat. plenty of sites offer what his corner of reddit offered. reddit didn't mind because they are a large site willing to please as many as possible. posters that compare his stuff to a paedo are ignorant. non-nude jailbait pics are not paedo fare, grow up. and there are plenty of sites on the internet that have all sorts of objectionable trash, you know it, i know it. this fat bastard didn't have a corner on the market. its not right his life is being ripped to pieces. i feel bad for the jerk. i wouldn't want it to happen to you or to me.
 
2012-10-19 09:00:09 AM  

gulogulo: Aquadyne: whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal

Isn't about the legality of it, though there is some grey area concerning the jailbait pics. In any case, this has been rehashed. this is not about protecting free speech. This is not about legality. This is about someone who did something the majority of society finds reprehensible, and thought he could do it because of this false sense of anonymity the internet provides. That anonymity is not protected by law. You are susceptible to being discovered, he was, society found out, and now he's dealing with the repercussions of his actions. Don't want this to happen to you? Don't do things like he did.


BS.

This is just a double standard because this guy fits your average basement dweller creepy uncle image so people piled up on him. Seriously, what he has done is no more offensive than what i see on network TV every week - jokes about racism, hitler, misogyny, jail bait, rampant drug shiat, homosexuality, transexualism. and thats on TV, not some dark corner of internet nerdery like reddit

sucks that he lost a job. seems like a pretty harmless guy
 
2012-10-19 09:00:11 AM  

KrispyKritter: this guy having his life ruined is hypocrite bullshiat. plenty of sites offer what his corner of reddit offered. reddit didn't mind because they are a large site willing to please as many as possible. posters that compare his stuff to a paedo are ignorant. non-nude jailbait pics are not paedo fare, grow up. and there are plenty of sites on the internet that have all sorts of objectionable trash, you know it, i know it. this fat bastard didn't have a corner on the market. its not right his life is being ripped to pieces. i feel bad for the jerk. i wouldn't want it to happen to you or to me.


Once again - if you like what VA did, if you feel he is a cool guy - that is your right as an American. You can scrape together money to give him a job so he can keep doing what you like.

It appears, however, the vast majority of people don't like what he does. Why should they be forced to think otherwise?
 
2012-10-19 09:03:19 AM  

Aquadyne: sucks that he lost a job. seems like a pretty harmless guy


I suppose that depends on your outlook of harmless. Was it harmless to the people who did not to be exploited in those pics? Even if it was perfectly legal, it was considered perfectly despicable by most of society.

Did you frequent these sub boards or something? If you did, would you openly admit to it?
 
2012-10-19 09:04:26 AM  

Aquadyne: BS.

This is just a double standard because this guy fits your average basement dweller creepy uncle image so people piled up on him. Seriously, what he has done is no more offensive than what i see on network TV every week - jokes about racism, hitler, misogyny, jail bait, rampant drug shiat, homosexuality, transexualism. and thats on TV, not some dark corner of internet nerdery like reddit

sucks that he lost a job. seems like a pretty harmless guy



Once again, it appears that you are his intended audience. Cool - as long as his postings/boards were within the boundaries of law, you totally have the right to totally like what he posted/did. You have the right to support him, to give him money, to give him support - heck, after Lawrence v. Texas, you have the right to do whatever you want to him in the privacy of your/his home. And as someone who swore an oath to the constitution, i would defend your right to do so.

However, other people have the same rights - and if they think what he did was deeply creepy and objectionable - they get the right to feel that way and the right to express that displeasure legally. They can say he is disgusting, they can avoid interacting with him, and they can refuse to contract with him going forward.
 
2012-10-19 09:05:35 AM  

Teiritzamna: You have the right to support him, to give him money, to give him support


D'oh. It appears i like "support"
 
2012-10-19 09:08:35 AM  

Teiritzamna: However, other people have the same rights - and if they think what he did was deeply creepy and objectionable - they get the right to feel that way and the right to express that displeasure legally. They can say he is disgusting, they can avoid interacting with him, and they can refuse to contract with him going forward.


When it comes to public opinion, too, majority does rule. This is why these exploitation shots of celebrities are considered socially acceptable because they are viewed as 'public citizens.' I don't agree with this view point, but I'm in the minority there, so it isn't likely going to change.

In this case, I'm on the side of public opinion.
 
2012-10-19 09:08:36 AM  

KrispyKritter: i wouldn't want it to happen to you or to me.


You know how you avoid that? Don't do it.

It's not hypocritical and you know it. Free speech doesn't mean consequence free. He knew what he was doing would be offensive to the people around him in his regular life and they would likely not want to be associated with him if those people found out.

The internet isn't a magical barrier that gives you a whole second life divorced from your first. If you don't want people in your day to day life to abandon you for being a weird asshole, don't go on the internet and be a weird asshole.
 
2012-10-19 09:11:08 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: don't go on the internet and be a weird asshole.


Which is doubly funny, as all the weird assholes i have seen have been on the internet.

I mean i have never seen someone stick a bushel of apples in their pooper in meatspace.

/perhaps i go to the wrong bars?
 
2012-10-19 09:12:13 AM  

gulogulo: Aquadyne: sucks that he lost a job. seems like a pretty harmless guy

I suppose that depends on your outlook of harmless. Was it harmless to the people who did not to be exploited in those pics? Even if it was perfectly legal, it was considered perfectly despicable by most of society.

Did you frequent these sub boards or something? If you did, would you openly admit to it?


i went on reddit like twice in my life and the format made me X out of it in 10 minutes
 
2012-10-19 09:15:29 AM  
I read about this on Reddit before Fark posted a Verge link.
 
2012-10-19 09:18:27 AM  

Aquadyne: i went on reddit like twice in my life and the format made me X out of it in 10 minutes


Ok. So if you visited forums like jailbat that posted pictures of kids (clothed), or creepshots of upskirt shots of unsuspecting women. Or 'rapebait' or 'chokeabiatch' would you openly admit that to your friends, your boss, your mother, sisters, whomever? No caveats of 'research,' but saying you frequent those sites, would you be willing to tell anyone and everyone that you do?
 
2012-10-19 09:22:30 AM  

ModernLuddite: I'm just saying that internet != real life.


Completely ridiculous.

What you do on the internet is, in fact, what you do in real life. It's not an alternate reality. It is simply a different medium of communication. It's all behavior you are responsible for. Consider this analogy: you're on a boat. Across the water from you, 200 yards away, is another boat. Using semaphore you call the people on the other boat all sorts of rude names. The passengers of that boat confront you on the dock later, and you claim that was just your "boating persona" and it doesn't really count as something you actually did. See how foolish that is?

If you say, do, or suggest things online that you would never say to someone in person it makes you either a coward in person, or extremely immature online. Probably both.
 
2012-10-19 09:25:06 AM  

Teiritzamna: /perhaps i go to the wrong bars?


I'd say right or wrong in that context is really a matter of taste.

/ tastes like apples
// I think maybe you're going to the wrong websites, but, again... tastes differ and I won't judge you if you don't judge me
 
2012-10-19 09:25:38 AM  
Nobody has come off looking good in this whole mess. Not Violentacrez, not Adrien Chen, not the subreddits that decided to self-righteously boycott Gawker sites, and not Gawker and their pants-on-head-retarded news formatting, and certainly not the outside media trying to report on this entire nonsense.

The bottom line is:

VA didn't do anything illegal, he's just an industrial-grade creep and pervert.

Chen now has a name for himself because of a bunch of useless drama.

Gawker got more hits to their website.

r/shiatredditsays is still a worthless group of self-aggrandizing trolls

r/subredditdrama can't make popcorn fast enough

People on Fark biatching about Reddit and people on Reddit biatching about fark both need to get the ever-loving fark over themselves.
 
2012-10-19 09:28:19 AM  

WinoRhino: ModernLuddite: I'm just saying that internet != real life.

Completely ridiculous.

What you do on the internet is, in fact, what you do in real life. It's not an alternate reality. It is simply a different medium of communication. It's all behavior you are responsible for. Consider this analogy: you're on a boat. Across the water from you, 200 yards away, is another boat. Using semaphore you call the people on the other boat all sorts of rude names. The passengers of that boat confront you on the dock later, and you claim that was just your "boating persona" and it doesn't really count as something you actually did. See how foolish that is?

If you say, do, or suggest things online that you would never say to someone in person it makes you either a coward in person, or extremely immature online. Probably both.


So you wouldn't mind explaining to a group of actual Winos why you've chosen to apparently take their name in humorous reference (or chosen it at all)?
 
2012-10-19 09:28:23 AM  

UNC_Samurai: People on Fark biatching about Reddit and people on Reddit biatching about fark both need to get the ever-loving fark over themselves.


I don't care about reddit. I care that a creep pervert got his comeuppance. Why do you and others keeping on bringing up that it's not illegal? Very people who are happy with this outcome are making that claim.
 
2012-10-19 09:33:06 AM  

Aquadyne: whole lot of a bullshiat is what this is. this guy didnt do anything illegal


And he didn't get arrested for anything. So cry some more.
 
2012-10-19 09:33:09 AM  
said in an interview that he made a "huge mistake" in creating subreddits that served as places to share everything from rape jokes to pictures of pregnant women.

What's wrong with pictures of pregnant women?
 
2012-10-19 09:33:48 AM  

DeathByGeekSquad: So you wouldn't mind explaining to a group of actual Winos why you've chosen to apparently take their name in humorous reference (or chosen it at all)?


Perhaps he is a drunken Ceratotherium simum?
 
2012-10-19 09:33:53 AM  
Hey look. It's the guy who was in charge of removing illegal content from creepy subreddits.

Hey look, he's got bad taste. Lets burn him alive, because we all know nobody ever tells lies on the internet, and if he's removing illegal content he must be a pedophile.

And so the which hunt goes on.

We should ban pictures of Muhammad as well. They are creepy and offensive to Muslims, and since we're now banning anything anyone doesn't like, well, we might as well start with the stuff that people get murdered over, like images of Muhammad.
 
2012-10-19 09:34:15 AM  

UNC_Samurai:

VA didn't do anything illegal, he's just an industrial-grade creep and pervert.

Chen now has a name for himself because of a bunch of useless drama.

Gawker got more hits to their website.


Adrian Chen already has a name for himself; I'm not sure you really appreciate how big the Gawker media property really is. Hint: he's got more name recognition than 98% of all cable news personalities today and a bigger audience to boot. If you stopped 50 random people on the streets of New York City today, its 50/50 they'd know who Shep Smith or Sam Donaldson are. I guarantee they'd recognize Chen.
 
2012-10-19 09:36:13 AM  

fluffy2097: Hey look. It's the guy who was in charge of removing illegal content from creepy subreddits.

Hey look, he's got bad taste. Lets burn him alive, because we all know nobody ever tells lies on the internet, and if he's removing illegal content he must be a pedophile.

And so the which hunt goes on.

We should ban pictures of Muhammad as well. They are creepy and offensive to Muslims, and since we're now banning anything anyone doesn't like, well, we might as well start with the stuff that people get murdered over, like images of Muhammad.


Hey fun question - explain to me where banning anything happened?

To make your analogy more correct, let us assume he did computer work for a local mosque and in his spare time made websites with offensive pictures of the prophet. His employer finds out. They fire him, as is their right.

What pray tell is wrong with this scenario?
 
2012-10-19 09:36:25 AM  

fluffy2097: Hey look. It's the guy who was in charge of removing illegal content from creepy subreddits.

Hey look, he's got bad taste. Lets burn him alive, because we all know nobody ever tells lies on the internet, and if he's removing illegal content he must be a pedophile.

And so the which hunt goes on.

We should ban pictures of Muhammad as well. They are creepy and offensive to Muslims, and since we're now banning anything anyone doesn't like, well, we might as well start with the stuff that people get murdered over, like images of Muhammad.


www.gamesprays.com
 
2012-10-19 09:36:59 AM  

willfullyobscure: Adrian Chen already has a name for himself; I'm not sure you really appreciate how big the Gawker media property really is. Hint: he's got more name recognition than 98% of all cable news personalities today and a bigger audience to boot. If you stopped 50 random people on the streets of New York City today, its 50/50 they'd know who Shep Smith or Sam Donaldson are. I guarantee they'd recognize Chen.


Chen made a name for himself when he pretended to have cancer.

And when he put up a website so people could stalk celebrities.

also. Gawkers upskirt website. Dedicated to taking pictures of a woman's pussy. No, Gawker and Chen aren't creepy at all.
 
2012-10-19 09:37:16 AM  
Breaking Bad is a fictional tale filled with people who do bad things, and a lawbreaking guy who has morals fighting guys who do worse things.

It's NOT the same, but you can draw parallels -- at least I do. I don't watch Breaking Bad, so I can't make the argument stick, but there are other cases out there.

In short, it takes a deviant to police deviants. I suspect that was why he was made a moderator.

It doesn't keep him from being judged by the rest of us, or condemned by the schoolmarms.
 
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