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(Tom's Hardware)   Chris Roberts (Wing Commander series, Privateer) has decided that technology has finally caught up to where he needs it to be for his gaming masterpiece. Let's get him the funding he needs to complete it. (w/ vids)   (tomshardware.com) divider line 119
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2012-10-19 12:46:53 PM  
Does our money also go to eradicating the movie from existence?
 
2012-10-19 12:46:54 PM  
Got in on the ground floor of this one, I'm stoked. I played Privateer until my eyes fell out, and I still have nostalgic feelings for the Ferret and Broadsword. Sigh.
 
2012-10-19 12:51:21 PM  
Since it's being built with consumer money does that mean it will be free to play for all?
 
2012-10-19 12:51:52 PM  

swaxhog: Chris Roberts (Wing Commander series, Privateer) has decided that technology Kickstarter hype has finally caught up to where he needs to get in before it goes bust it to be for his gaming masterpiece.

FTFM

Way too many of these projects and all are full of empty promises made it look like guarantees.


looks like he had his own page for donations, but it ended up not being able to handle demand.
So they added kickstarter as well.


TheHopeDiamond: Let's not. I need my money for my own creative dreams, thanks.


so you came in here to tell us you aren't gonna donate? why not save yourself the work and just not post?
 
2012-10-19 12:53:36 PM  

beer4breakfast: Since it's being built with consumer money does that mean it will be free to play for all?


No subscription yeah. just purchase price. which equals $30 if you donate now.
 
2012-10-19 01:00:00 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Does our money also go to eradicating the movie from existence?


That, the late 90s Avengers movie, and Bruno are the only three movies I regret seeing. May the Wing Commander movie burn for all eternity.
 
2012-10-19 01:02:46 PM  

Sargun: swaxhog: Chris Roberts (Wing Commander series, Privateer) has decided that technology Kickstarter hype has finally caught up to where he needs to get in before it goes bust it to be for his gaming masterpiece.

FTFM

Way too many of these projects and all are full of empty promises made it look like guarantees.

You do know there's already a combat prototype and this guy's a farkin' legend, right?


Ohhh, a combat prototype. Sounds like the game is already done why does he need the KS money and 3 more years? I know who he is, he helped create Times of Lore and Wing Commander 1 (along with a lot of help) and has rode that coat tail for 20 years. He's taking money on a promise that is already pushed to 2015. Sorry, if I get neither excited nor willing to give away money with 0 guarantee for a game that might see the light of day in 3 years.  In case you don't realize, saying "give me $X and you get the game" as a reward on Kickstarter means absolutely nothing if he never produces the game which for a KS project is a high probability.
 
2012-10-19 01:04:57 PM  

Kazan: madgonad: Oh, and did I mention that it fully supports mouse/kb OR controller OR joystick/HOTAS?

he's building off crytek 3.. input code is already done for him

plus supporting any input device you want is really not that difficult AT ALL. input code is a triviality in comparison to a bunch of the other stuff he promised.


What makes it work is the physics engine. And having variable gain in all three axis is actually pretty hard. A quality flightstick provides a lot of data points for the engine to manage, a mouse can do two axis almost as well, but thrust is cludgy - generally managed by stepped buttons or a mouse scroll. A true throttle is far more precise. Controllers just lack the precision in general. I will be curious to see what features will be added to the controller control model to give them a chance against the precision of mice and flightsticks? Remember, this is a game in which you can actually target components of another ship to disable them. Precision will be key to doing well in multi-player.
 
2012-10-19 01:06:17 PM  

swaxhog: Chris Roberts (Wing Commander series, Privateer) has decided that technology Kickstarter hype has finally caught up to where he needs to get in before it goes bust it to be for his gaming masterpiece.

FTFM

Way too many of these projects and all are full of empty promises made it look like guarantees.


Unlike those other projects, RSI has actually shown videos of what the game already looks like. Meanwhile it took the Project Eternity two weeks to release a painted over screenshot.

These are not remotely equivalent. Roberts and his team have already done much more work than any Kickstarter has preceding its presentation, implying they started quite a while ago on their own funding.
 
2012-10-19 01:07:03 PM  

Solon Isonomia: UNC_Samurai: Does our money also go to eradicating the movie from existence?

That, the late 90s Avengers movie, and Bruno are the only three movies I regret seeing. May the Wing Commander movie burn for all eternity.


The WC movie wasn't really that bad. It just wasn't really that good.

Except for turning the Kilrathi into damp weasels. That was the Greedo Shooting moment for me.
 
2012-10-19 01:11:39 PM  

swaxhog: Sargun: swaxhog: Chris Roberts (Wing Commander series, Privateer) has decided that technology Kickstarter hype has finally caught up to where he needs to get in before it goes bust it to be for his gaming masterpiece.

FTFM

Way too many of these projects and all are full of empty promises made it look like guarantees.

You do know there's already a combat prototype and this guy's a farkin' legend, right?

Ohhh, a combat prototype. Sounds like the game is already done why does he need the KS money and 3 more years? I know who he is, he helped create Times of Lore and Wing Commander 1 (along with a lot of help) and has rode that coat tail for 20 years. He's taking money on a promise that is already pushed to 2015. Sorry, if I get neither excited nor willing to give away money with 0 guarantee for a game that might see the light of day in 3 years.  In case you don't realize, saying "give me $X and you get the game" as a reward on Kickstarter means absolutely nothing if he never produces the game which for a KS project is a high probability.


I take it you got burned backing that Hello Kitty Adventure Island Kickstarter. It's okay to be bitter, I was really excited for it too.

Your logic is circular. The project needs money to be finished and Kickstarter's a great way to drum up funds. If the project was finished he'd release it and wouldn't need money in the first place. From what I can tell, you're against any Kickstarter and the project has no bearing on that.  Perhaps you could blog about it...
 
2012-10-19 01:31:11 PM  
Oh, you guys are in for one Hell of a fleecing.
 
2012-10-19 01:40:30 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Oh, you guys are in for one Hell of a fleecing.


As if no one ever knowingly makes a risky investment based on uncertain returns. For most people we're talking about maybe, at most, a couple hundred bucks. The average contribution to Project Eternity was $54, nearly the retail price of a game. If that's going to break you, you shouldn't be contributing to Kickstarters in the first place.
 
2012-10-19 01:51:02 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Oh, you guys are in for one Hell of a fleecing.


Eh, I've spent money on projects backed by venture capitalist firms and major studios only to be disappointed. Chris Roberts has sufficient history for me to take a small risk.
 
2012-10-19 01:57:46 PM  
So... time to build a new system anyway, what should I get to run this?
 
2012-10-19 02:03:00 PM  

zarberg: pute kisses like a man: loved privateer.

i want a game with both flight simulation and running around the various docks, buying shiat and occasional violence

So kind of like a more sandbox style Star Wars: tOR on the ground (and in the space stations) and X-wing/TIE Fighter while flying?


actually, that sounds pretty good. I have not played a sim in probably 10+ years... so I'm a little out of touch with what's out there. but, lately, I've really wanted a good space fighter, where you build up your ship, outfit it, buy new one ships, and just run around doing side quests forever (and maybe the occasional main quest).

but, I also really like having an actual human character to play. I'd like to be able to walk around, and have occasional violence, and be able to walk around inside of my vessel as well. and then, change views for flying. 

/ all i want is everything. is that too much to ask?
 
2012-10-19 02:05:36 PM  
That's great and all, but I feel like people always feel like they are getting close to greatness. But the thing is, you are getting too close, you will burn up.
 
2012-10-19 02:06:35 PM  

pute kisses like a man: zarberg: pute kisses like a man: loved privateer.

i want a game with both flight simulation and running around the various docks, buying shiat and occasional violence

So kind of like a more sandbox style Star Wars: tOR on the ground (and in the space stations) and X-wing/TIE Fighter while flying?

actually, that sounds pretty good. I have not played a sim in probably 10+ years... so I'm a little out of touch with what's out there. but, lately, I've really wanted a good space fighter, where you build up your ship, outfit it, buy new one ships, and just run around doing side quests forever (and maybe the occasional main quest).

but, I also really like having an actual human character to play. I'd like to be able to walk around, and have occasional violence, and be able to walk around inside of my vessel as well. and then, change views for flying. 

/ all i want is everything. is that too much to ask?


The Star Trek Online game was kind of like that, but I have to admit. I kept thinking, "This is almost as good as Privateer".
 
2012-10-19 02:08:34 PM  
Galaxy on Fire 2 has already been made.
 
2012-10-19 02:15:55 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: While I never played Wing Commander specifically I do remember all the great flight space sims from that age, I would love to see another with modern technology.

/is SO in


I'd love a remake of the Microprose stealth fighter series. There's a lot to be said about being a sneaky bastard rather that just going in guns blazing and seeing who dies first.
 
2012-10-19 02:22:12 PM  
t3.gstatic.comt1.gstatic.com 

Two of the best games I ever played.
Would love an MMO of this!
 
2012-10-19 02:40:28 PM  
2 million polygons in the hangar deck environment, whew.

I think I'll be saving my money for the system I'll need to run this thing in 2 years...
 
2012-10-19 02:47:00 PM  

Dorf11: I'm looking forward to see which porn star will play the garage mechanic.


Exactly....

My vote is for Nina Mercedez

/not sure how well ol' Ginger L. is holding up these days
 
2012-10-19 02:49:28 PM  
Ah, fark it, I'm in. Even if it's only the combat sim released in a year and a half and it's done, I'll be fine with $30.

That's one of those names from my youth I have to pay attention to. If the Williams started a Kickstarter for a new King's Quest (or, anything?), if Wild Bill popped up, said he'd kidnapped Sid Meier and for $2 million dollars they'd release *any* game with Microprose above the title...
 
2012-10-19 03:02:11 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: I'm already in. His games owned my middle school & high school years.


Elementary school for me. Wing Commander holds a special place in my heart. We didn't have a family computer at the time, but I had a friend whose family owned a convenient store in the neighborhood, and they had a rockin' 286/386? in 1990/1991 (DOS, no Windows, I remember using DOSSHELL at the time) in the backroom. My friend and I spent many summer hours dogfighting Kilrathi. Excellent story, excellent music (even if MIDI). A few years ago I fired up an SNES emulator and revisited that (abridged) version of the game and it's still quite enjoyable.

What else from that era even came remotely close in terms of gameplay and storytelling? Wolfenstein 3D? Psh.
 
2012-10-19 03:02:32 PM  
I'm in already too. If he even hits half his goals for the project, it will still be an amazing game.
 
2012-10-19 03:06:05 PM  

Dorf11: zarberg: Ahhh, full game immersion. Used to do it myself with Microprose's Project: Stealth Fighter for the C-64.

That one got me as well. Planning flights around radar stations and hitting the deck when I was detected.


Lots of sweat-inducing moments in that game.

Room blacked out, contrast on the CRT turned down until I could barely determine horizon from sky. Front 242, "Circling Overland" on the Walkman. I didn't mind the Il-76s - you could sneak up on 'em at barely over stall speed, get to within a few miles, wait until its radar sweep was just about due, pop open the bomb bay doors, deliberately get detected, and then you had to rack up some extra points for the mission by nosing up and shooting it down. Under some rules of engagement, the longer you remained undetected over enemy territory, the higher your score, so if you were sneaky enough, you could get the CMOH carrying nothing but 3 fuel tanks and a camera. If forced into combat, the tricky part was getting back down to the deck and pointed in the right direction before the mix of radars on shore, some pulse, some doppler, could light you up.

Checking my turnaround and starting descent...
 
2012-10-19 03:14:21 PM  
Really, really wish there were a way to play this on Windows 7. If anyone knows of some kind of emulator or whatever, this generic WC knockoff ruled me when I was like 14. 

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-19 03:24:41 PM  

Twilight Farkle: Dorf11: zarberg: Ahhh, full game immersion. Used to do it myself with Microprose's Project: Stealth Fighter for the C-64.

That one got me as well. Planning flights around radar stations and hitting the deck when I was detected.

Lots of sweat-inducing moments in that game.

Room blacked out, contrast on the CRT turned down until I could barely determine horizon from sky. Front 242, "Circling Overland" on the Walkman. I didn't mind the Il-76s - you could sneak up on 'em at barely over stall speed, get to within a few miles, wait until its radar sweep was just about due, pop open the bomb bay doors, deliberately get detected, and then you had to rack up some extra points for the mission by nosing up and shooting it down. Under some rules of engagement, the longer you remained undetected over enemy territory, the higher your score, so if you were sneaky enough, you could get the CMOH carrying nothing but 3 fuel tanks and a camera. If forced into combat, the tricky part was getting back down to the deck and pointed in the right direction before the mix of radars on shore, some pulse, some doppler, could light you up.

Checking my turnaround and starting descent...


Mmmm ... hardcore. I like it.

I used to enjoy getting a purple heart every mission in C-64 Gunship! by finishing the mission, and when coming back to land ignoring the security request from base (which was actually just an early form of copy protection as it required you to have the manual). It wasn't too hard to land quickly, and then the base would open fire on you on the ground, basically obliterating your helicopter, but since you were on the ground you'd survive ... and get the purple heart.
 
2012-10-19 03:36:57 PM  

bootman: Dump your cargo before blow will ya.


I'm on a budget.
 
2012-10-19 03:43:52 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: I found my old school Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Sidewinder joystick in the garage the other day, been trolling through my games collection trying to find something to use it with.


No love for Crimson Skies?
 
2012-10-19 03:52:24 PM  
www.dudelol.com
 
2012-10-19 03:57:42 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Really, really wish there were a way to play this on Windows 7. If anyone knows of some kind of emulator or whatever, this generic WC knockoff ruled me when I was like 14. 

[upload.wikimedia.org image 288x295]


There's all sorts of emulators.
http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=2210&letter=S

/I've attempted to run Wing Commander 1 on my Android phone in DOSBox. It kind of worked. Maybe if I hooked up a Bluetooth keyboard it would work better
 
2012-10-19 04:10:12 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Lemme guess...PC technology has finally gotten to where someone can run this game smoothly?


I got Strike Commander to run pretty well on my machine back in the day, though it required some 1337 DOS hackery.
 
2012-10-19 04:12:34 PM  
This was good enough for me, dammit:

hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-19 04:28:39 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: Fizpez: It's been at least 2 maybe 3 computer builds since I bought a kickass joystick/throttle with 4000 programmable buttons.... just might be able to lure me back.

/Still has one in his basement (Gravis Phoenix?) - course I cant plug it in to my current computer so there's that....

I found my old school Microsoft Force Feedback 2 Sidewinder joystick in the garage the other day, been trolling through my games collection trying to find something to use it with.

So far the only contender is Mechwarrior 4: Mercs.

/needs me some space explosions


X3, its good (if you like very little in the way of railed-story line and a lot of staring at beautiful space things while waiting for your trade empire to flourish)
/ridiculously steep learning curve too
//supports 5760x1080 too, wooot
 
2012-10-19 04:32:22 PM  
Yeah, this falls squarely in the "Shut Up and Take my Money" category.
 
2012-10-19 04:38:54 PM  

legion_of_doo: Scrotastic Method: Really, really wish there were a way to play this on Windows 7. If anyone knows of some kind of emulator or whatever, this generic WC knockoff ruled me when I was like 14. 

[upload.wikimedia.org image 288x295]

There's all sorts of emulators.
http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=2210&letter=S

/I've attempted to run Wing Commander 1 on my Android phone in DOSBox. It kind of worked. Maybe if I hooked up a Bluetooth keyboard it would work better


So this is telling me that DOSBox will let me run my official legit copy of the game?

...and what if my copy of that game is still in my desk, in my old room, 3000 miles away? What if I needed a, um, digital backup of my licensed copy?
 
2012-10-19 04:42:23 PM  

DarthBart: ShadowLAnCeR: While I never played Wing Commander specifically I do remember all the great flight space sims from that age, I would love to see another with modern technology.

/is SO in

I'd love a remake of the Microprose stealth fighter series. There's a lot to be said about being a sneaky bastard rather that just going in guns blazing and seeing who dies first.


Ohhell yes. I still have the midi theme song burned into my memory. Loved this game.

i.techrepublic.com.com 

/hot like a Sidewinder
 
2012-10-19 04:43:39 PM  
And then he sells the rights to EA or Activision who promptly turn it into a cartoony arcade shooter.


You'll have to pardon me. I'm still holding a grudge about SPORE.
 
2012-10-19 05:01:51 PM  

Scrotastic Method: legion_of_doo: Scrotastic Method: Really, really wish there were a way to play this on Windows 7. If anyone knows of some kind of emulator or whatever, this generic WC knockoff ruled me when I was like 14. 

[upload.wikimedia.org image 288x295]

There's all sorts of emulators.
http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=2210&letter=S

/I've attempted to run Wing Commander 1 on my Android phone in DOSBox. It kind of worked. Maybe if I hooked up a Bluetooth keyboard it would work better

So this is telling me that DOSBox will let me run my official legit copy of the game?

...and what if my copy of that game is still in my desk, in my old room, 3000 miles away? What if I needed a, um, digital backup of my licensed copy?


Spend $5.00?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/7760/?snr=1_7_suggest__13
 
2012-10-19 05:02:30 PM  
Dammit, sorry ,thought you meant X-Com...
 
2012-10-19 05:22:11 PM  

Roof Pig: DarthBart: ShadowLAnCeR: While I never played Wing Commander specifically I do remember all the great flight space sims from that age, I would love to see another with modern technology.

/is SO in

I'd love a remake of the Microprose stealth fighter series. There's a lot to be said about being a sneaky bastard rather that just going in guns blazing and seeing who dies first.

Ohhell yes. I still have the midi theme song burned into my memory. Loved this game.

[i.techrepublic.com.com image 500x312] 

/hot like a Sidewinder


I preferred the follow-on F117A Nighthawk game. The F-19 version always had the same damn missions. I got tired of "Destroy the tankfarm at Bandar Buttcrack" and "Destroy the bridge at Rhine". F117A had a much better mission generation system.
 
2012-10-19 05:22:51 PM  
Privateer was one of the finest games ever made, but I'm just not enthused by MMOs. Grinding is not fun and that's what they all come down to.
 
2012-10-19 05:28:32 PM  

bootman: Dump your cargo before blow will ya.


Die by the very weapons you adore.
 
2012-10-19 05:29:20 PM  
This doesn't really sound like your typical MMO though. Sounds more like a persistent world privateer.
 
2012-10-19 05:38:47 PM  

tdpatriots12: TV's Vinnie: Oh, you guys are in for one Hell of a fleecing.

As if no one ever knowingly makes a risky investment based on uncertain returns. For most people we're talking about maybe, at most, a couple hundred bucks. The average contribution to Project Eternity was $54, nearly the retail price of a game. If that's going to break you, you shouldn't be contributing to Kickstarters in the first place.


Interested in some real estate in Florida?
 
2012-10-19 06:00:14 PM  

Hebalo: Dammit, sorry ,thought you meant X-Com...


No worries, I appreciate the help, because I would totally drop $5 to play that game, especially from a platform like Steam that I would expect to be future-proof.
 
2012-10-19 06:04:13 PM  
I used to love Gunship 2000 and F-117A Flight sim. Played hours and hours of those two.

Recently, my dad gave me a box of old CD cases, and I was amazed to find my old copy of the TIE Fighter CD. I fired up DosBox, and sure enough the thing still works. There were some other gems in there, like Red Baron, Leisure Suit Larry and the Land of the Lounge Lizards, both Rebel Assaults 1 and 2, and I think Dark Forces may have been in there too...
 
2012-10-19 06:06:08 PM  
More on topic - looking at this game lets me know it's finally time to start looking in to a new desktop. Somethin tells me my old Core2Duo with a 9800GT just isn't going to cut it. I've always wanted to build my own, and this might just give me the chance.
 
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