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(io9)   If you make a straight-to-DVD caveman movie called "Age of The Hobbits" (tagline: "They're Not Tolkien's Hobbits...They're Real") don't be surprised when you get sued   (io9.com) divider line 44
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2012-10-18 08:28:13 PM
Bai Ling? her nipples are taller than the average hobbit
 
2012-10-18 08:34:30 PM
Starring Teal'c!
 
2012-10-18 09:21:54 PM
So you're saying this was a... bad Hobbit?
 
2012-10-18 09:27:48 PM
And they're spectacular!
 
2012-10-18 09:34:16 PM
DNRTA,but I'm going to assume that this is an Asylum "mock buster" gone awry.....
 
2012-10-18 09:43:36 PM
www.exploringrockart.com 

I don't understand why they would sue this Age of The Hobbits documentary; it sounds interesting.
 
2012-10-18 09:47:37 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So you're saying this was a... bad Hobbit?


Be careful. Bad puns are hobbit forming.
You just made the short list, buddy.
 
2012-10-18 09:50:05 PM
One the one hand, you've seen one Asylum movie you've seen them all. On the other, if Jackson had put Teal'c in the real Hobbit movies, no one would give the tiniest of shiats.
 
2012-10-18 09:50:51 PM
Age of the Hobbits Preview

They even got Leonard Nimoy to narrate.
 
2012-10-18 09:51:28 PM

GungFu: [www.exploringrockart.com image 800x644] 

I don't understand why they would sue this Age of The Hobbits documentary; it sounds interesting.


Because it uses the word 'hobbit'. This is why D&D uses the word 'halfling' instead to hobbit.

/As much I love Tolkien's work
//The Tolkien copyright lawyers are vicious
 
2012-10-18 09:57:33 PM
They're still real to me, dammit!
 
2012-10-18 10:16:32 PM
paranorm.spithate.com
catering services 
 
2012-10-18 10:17:30 PM
Guess Christopher Judge needs work...
 
2012-10-18 10:19:56 PM
randy newman was right

static.thegloss.com
 
2012-10-18 10:26:23 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: Guess Christopher Judge needs work...


Jaffa gotta eat.
 
2012-10-18 10:26:28 PM

GungFu: [www.exploringrockart.com image 800x644] 

I don't understand why they would sue this Age of The Hobbits documentary; it sounds interesting.


A documentary might be. The dragons make it a little hard to believe as non-fiction though.
 
2012-10-18 10:31:20 PM
Well, it was in the Public Domain, but somebody got their palm greased and it was taken back out. Funny how that works.

Link


"On the other side of the issue were American publishing houses, movie producers, and music industry supporters, all who claimed that granting these rights to foreign works in America is the first step to gaining the same considerations for their writings, movies, and music overseas. The Obama administration agreed with the majority that it is within congress's power to take books back out of the public domain. The law in question was upheld with a vote of 6 - 2."


Obama strikes again. Doing what he wants, when he wants.

This is why I continue to steal all media. They don't want to follow the rules, neither do I.
 
2012-10-18 10:32:35 PM
There's a reason why TSR used "halflings", holmes.
 
2012-10-18 11:03:50 PM
But why do they only have nine fingers?
 
2012-10-18 11:04:46 PM
img12.exs.cx
 
2012-10-18 11:09:07 PM
thehilarioushugheys.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-18 11:09:57 PM
Oh and how Disneyesque.
 
2012-10-19 12:16:28 AM
What I find odd is that I can't find anything on IMDB about this. Nor is it mentioned under either 'stars' profile.

/Indeed...
 
2012-10-19 02:03:03 AM
quenya101.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-19 02:16:24 AM

hbk72777: Well, it was in the Public Domain, but somebody got their palm greased and it was taken back out. Funny how that works.

Link


"On the other side of the issue were American publishing houses, movie producers, and music industry supporters, all who claimed that granting these rights to foreign works in America is the first step to gaining the same considerations for their writings, movies, and music overseas. The Obama administration agreed with the majority that it is within congress's power to take books back out of the public domain. The law in question was upheld with a vote of 6 - 2."


Obama strikes again. Doing what he wants, when he wants.

This is why I continue to steal all media. They don't want to follow the rules, neither do I.


Nice troll. This article is about a trademark issue, not copyright.

/doesn't believe in IP
 
2012-10-19 02:51:39 AM
http://sniffpetrol.com/2010/09/29/lotus-and-lotus-fight-over-lotus/
 
mhd
2012-10-19 02:54:35 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: There's a reason why TSR used "halflings", holmes.


Yeah, that must've been one of the first cases of the Tolkien Estate (i.e. Christopher Tolkien) being their litigious selves. They're rather prone of sending out C&Ds to "copyright/trademark infringers" on the 'net, too. Publish a map of middle-earth on some fansite, and down you go.

I wouldn't mind if JRRT himself were doing this, but heirs? And given how much Tolkien took from public domain mythology...

Having said that:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-19 03:08:38 AM
These are not the hobbits you are looking for.
 
2012-10-19 03:47:50 AM

mhd: SockMonkeyHolocaust: There's a reason why TSR used "halflings", holmes.

Yeah, that must've been one of the first cases of the Tolkien Estate (i.e. Christopher Tolkien) being their litigious selves. They're rather prone of sending out C&Ds to "copyright/trademark infringers" on the 'net, too. Publish a map of middle-earth on some fansite, and down you go.

I wouldn't mind if JRRT himself were doing this, but heirs? And given how much Tolkien took from public domain mythology...

Having said that:

[i.imgur.com image 217x374]


One ring to rule them all, biatch.
 
2012-10-19 03:49:33 AM
Oh,and I have a hard time buying that J.R.R. would have had a problem with this.
 
2012-10-19 04:07:26 AM
No, it's a hobo and a rabbit.


/but they're making a hobbit.
 
2012-10-19 04:47:07 AM
I sincerely thought that Bai Ling had hit bottom with her stint in Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew. I mean, how do you spiral down from that? Oh, midget porn.
 
2012-10-19 05:37:05 AM
Po-TA-toes
 
2012-10-19 06:28:06 AM
Let us not forget that for all the craaaazzzzzeeeee, we still get Bai Ling in animal skins:

www.galaide.org

I'm good with that.
 
2012-10-19 07:47:42 AM

StoPPeRmobile: mhd: SockMonkeyHolocaust: There's a reason why TSR used "halflings", holmes.

Yeah, that must've been one of the first cases of the Tolkien Estate (i.e. Christopher Tolkien) being their litigious selves. They're rather prone of sending out C&Ds to "copyright/trademark infringers" on the 'net, too. Publish a map of middle-earth on some fansite, and down you go.

I wouldn't mind if JRRT himself were doing this, but heirs? And given how much Tolkien took from public domain mythology...

Having said that:

[i.imgur.com image 217x374]

One ring to rule them all, biatch.


Those public domain parts remained public domain, even adopting Tolkien's changes (Tolkien was the first to use the spelling of "Elves" and "Dwarves" instead of the then common "Elfs" and "Dwarfs" to distinguish his races). The hobbits, however, are purely Tolkien's invention, in fact the entire Middle-Earth story was based on his creation of the word hobbit, and the background he wrote just to explain that one word.
 
2012-10-19 07:49:20 AM

DiRF: http://sniffpetrol.com/2010/09/29/lotus-and-lotus-fight-over-lotus/


And yet, Grosjean hasn't wrecked either of the Caterhams.

SockMonkeyHolocaust: There's a reason why TSR used "halflings", holmes.


Remember when everyone thought TSR was trying to trademark "Nazi"?
 
2012-10-19 09:29:23 AM

CygnusDarius: GungFu: [www.exploringrockart.com image 800x644] 

I don't understand why they would sue this Age of The Hobbits documentary; it sounds interesting.

Because it uses the word 'hobbit'. This is why D&D uses the word 'halfling' instead to hobbit.

/As much I love Tolkien's work
//The Tolkien copyright lawyers are vicious


It's also not a documentary, though it does take place in the... well... age of the hobbits.
 
mhd
2012-10-19 09:47:13 AM
According to current law, how long will it be until we could use the term 'hobbit' (origin 1937; author died 1973) like we'd use 'munchkin' (origin: 1900, author died 1919)?

/Not that it's an important question, as those laws will probably change every few years for the sake of Disney
 
2012-10-19 11:43:15 AM

HeartBurnKid: CygnusDarius: GungFu: [www.exploringrockart.com image 800x644] 

I don't understand why they would sue this Age of The Hobbits documentary; it sounds interesting.

Because it uses the word 'hobbit'. This is why D&D uses the word 'halfling' instead to hobbit.

/As much I love Tolkien's work
//The Tolkien copyright lawyers are vicious

It's also not a documentary, though it does take place in the... well... age of the hobbits.


And where are they taking the hobbits?.
 
2012-10-19 03:03:56 PM
Why the fark isn't The Hobbit in the public domain to begin with at this point?
 
2012-10-19 04:24:32 PM

insertsnarkyusername: Why the fark isn't The Hobbit in the public domain to begin with at this point?


upload.wikimedia.org

More than geeks and nerds pay attention now. 

/disneyfied
 
2012-10-19 04:25:59 PM

insertsnarkyusername: Why the fark isn't The Hobbit in the public domain to begin with at this point?


Disney
 
2012-10-20 03:15:55 PM

Dralenan: Those public domain parts remained public domain, even adopting Tolkien's changes (Tolkien was the first to use the spelling of "Elves" and "Dwarves" instead of the then common "Elfs" and "Dwarfs" to distinguish his races). The hobbits, however, are purely Tolkien's invention, in fact the entire Middle-Earth story was based on his creation of the word hobbit, and the background he wrote just to explain that one word.


Amazing how close you are to being right but still just miss it.

Elves (with a v) is based on the archaic form which Tolkien brought back for his books.

Dwarves (with a v) is a aesthetic invention based on Elves. The proper archaic plural form of dwarf would be dwarrow, which also appears in Tolkien's writings, namely the Dwarrowdelf, another name for Moria.

Hobbit is an invention, but not purely Tolkien's. Obscure as it is, the name listed in Michael Aislabie Denham's nineteenth century studies of the supernatural beings of British folklore, appearing with many others such as fairy and hobgoblin. There is no indication Tolkien was aware of this. The archaic word hob (from hobgoblin) has many association that could apply to hobbits: clown, prankster, elf, brownie, rustic person (slang from hobnail), male ferret (burrowers), and literally "side of fireplace" (from hubbe). Again, there's no indication that linguist Tolkien was implying any of these characteristics. Perhaps the name just "fit" in a subconscious way.

Amazing how much I give a shiat.
 
2012-10-20 11:04:39 PM
I argue again for my previous statement. The choice of using "Elves", etc., was a conscious decision by Tolkien of his design. Whether older texts used this spelling isn't the matter, prior Tolkien's work, they had been standardized as "elfs". Any old document written in "English" will have variations in spelling.

As for the prior existence of Hobbit, it certainly did predate Tolkien...in a different context. Tolkien stated he was unaware of the existence of the word, to Tolkien, it was a construct of his own design meaning "Hole-dweller." The word was created as a joke, actually, when Tolkien came up with the word and meaning, and wrote on a piece of paper "In a hole in the ground lived a hobbit." meaning "in a hole dwelt a hole dweller." He was amused by this, and ended up falling in love with the "hole-dwellers" he had discovered. The word "hobbit" may have existed before, no arguing that...but it referring to a short, simple relative to humans. Hobbits as used here are Tolkien's...the "Hobbits" in this movie are named for a species which was named for Tolkien's work, done specifically to coincide with the release of a movie called "The Hobbit".
 
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