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2012-10-18 08:47:19 PM  
Well shiat -- I need to gain some more weight and start drinking again, apparently.

I've never, ever gotten a flu shot, but I think the boy will be getting one tomorrow. He's terribly healthy and now I fear for him.

/not really
//still probably getting him the shot
 
2012-10-18 08:58:40 PM  
We know. We've known since 1918.
 
2012-10-18 09:09:00 PM  
It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!

oh yes and you let your sick kid go to school (infecting other kids, nice one, asshole) and you let him play a game, where he played hard, massively stressing his body; taking energy away from his immune system.

meh
but you know better, and basketball is critically important to everything in life.

SURE, there are nuts on the other extreme, over protective ...
but the FLU was going around and you just ignored it?

where does child abuse begin in these cases?
neglect?
 
2012-10-18 09:10:14 PM  
H1N1 strains - like the infamous "Spanish Flu" kill via cytokine storm - that means the healither you are the more likely you are to die. it is an fatal feedback loop in the immune system.
 
2012-10-18 09:12:21 PM  

Kazan: H5N1


ftfm
 
2012-10-18 09:34:30 PM  

namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!

oh yes and you let your sick kid go to school (infecting other kids, nice one, asshole) and you let him play a game, where he played hard, massively stressing his body; taking energy away from his immune system.

meh
but you know better, and basketball is critically important to everything in life.

SURE, there are nuts on the other extreme, over protective ...
but the FLU was going around and you just ignored it?

where does child abuse begin in these cases?
neglect?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed by that. I was the one in high school who seemed to catch everything. The only reason I went in with something that might be contagious was if I was out of days I could stay home and not automatically fail. So perhaps I'm biased, but I really wanted to punch the parents in the face after that statement.

Last time I had the flu, my best friend and my boyfriend conspired to keep me essentially locked in my room. They brought me food and anything else I needed, but I was not to leave the room except to use the restroom. After about 4 days I was feeling better, and was positively stir crazy by the time they felt I was well enough to leave the dorm. And even though it was the week before finals and I *needed* to go to class, I knew they were right.
 
2012-10-18 09:36:33 PM  

Kazan: H1N1 strains - like the infamous "Spanish Flu" kill via cytokine storm - that means the healither you are the more likely you are to die. it is an fatal feedback loop in the immune system.


You beat me to it. The majority of people who died in the Spanish Flu epidemic were young, healthy people; not the elderly or infants, who you'd think would be most susceptible, even now. In Season 2 of Downton Abbey, when Spanish Flu hit the house, the only one to die was Lavinia....and she was the youngest of all those infected (24 yrs old). Granted the show is fiction, but that outcome was based on what we all know to have happened re: infection and survival.

That's partly why people were so stumped as to what was causing it; they couldn't understand why healthy, young adults were dropping like flies.
 
2012-10-18 09:36:45 PM  

namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!



Yeah, the flu and MRSA.

Minor detail. Little wonder that they waited 'til the nineteenth farking paragraph to mention it.


/Fear mongering vaccine hype
 
2012-10-18 09:41:21 PM  

Luthien's Tempest: namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!

oh yes and you let your sick kid go to school (infecting other kids, nice one, asshole) and you let him play a game, where he played hard, massively stressing his body; taking energy away from his immune system.

meh
but you know better, and basketball is critically important to everything in life.

SURE, there are nuts on the other extreme, over protective ...
but the FLU was going around and you just ignored it?

where does child abuse begin in these cases?
neglect?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed by that. I was the one in high school who seemed to catch everything. The only reason I went in with something that might be contagious was if I was out of days I could stay home and not automatically fail. So perhaps I'm biased, but I really wanted to punch the parents in the face after that statement.

Last time I had the flu, my best friend and my boyfriend conspired to keep me essentially locked in my room. They brought me food and anything else I needed, but I was not to leave the room except to use the restroom. After about 4 days I was feeling better, and was positively stir crazy by the time they felt I was well enough to leave the dorm. And even though it was the week before finals and I *needed* to go to class, I knew they were right.


My junior year of college, flu hit my dorms hard, and I got sick. Sick, sick. Sicker than I'd ever been in my life before that time. My roommates basically did the same thing your friends did. I managed to convince them I was well enough to take my finals, as I got sick the week of my sister's birthday, which is early December....and that's when finals were. Otherwise, I too was quarantined in my room. Thankfully the dorms at my school were apartments, rather than standard dorms, so everyone had their own bedrooms. They didn't wear masks around me, but my best friend bought me disposable plates and flatware to eat off of so I wouldn't use the community dishes and get everyone else sick.

The worse part was that it wasn't the nauseous flu, where you puke a few times, lie in bed for a day or so, and feel better thereafter. This was a week and a half of sheer and utter misery.
 
2012-10-18 09:47:39 PM  

namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!

oh yes and you let your sick kid go to school (infecting other kids, nice one, asshole) and you let him play a game, where he played hard, massively stressing his body; taking energy away from his immune system.

meh
but you know better, and basketball is critically important to everything in life.

SURE, there are nuts on the other extreme, over protective ...
but the FLU was going around and you just ignored it?

where does child abuse begin in these cases?
neglect?


Kids die. It's why your cock doesn't fall off after the first use and you have two ovaries.

The flu is over hyped, over reported, and even at it's deadliest confused by most with the common cold until it's too late. Everyone powers through the cold. You have to.

This is just a tragedy, not a case of abuse. Can't you just be sorry for this family?
 
2012-10-18 09:52:40 PM  

doglover: Kids die. It's why your cock doesn't fall off after the first use and you have two ovaries.



Interesting anatomy.
 
2012-10-18 09:54:44 PM  
Uhmmm, yeah, a strong immune system can cut both ways.

/get the immunization
//anyone that's ever had the real flu will never turn it down
///not talking about that little feel bad for a few days bug that people pass off as the flu
////the real deal, when you are bargaining with god to either take you or make you better
///on day four or five
//and you feel weak for a few weeks
/get the immunization
 
2012-10-18 09:59:43 PM  

basemetal: Uhmmm, yeah, a strong immune system can cut both ways.

/get the immunization
//anyone that's ever had the real flu will never turn it down
///not talking about that little feel bad for a few days bug that people pass off as the flu
////the real deal, when you are bargaining with god to either take you or make you better
///on day four or five
//and you feel weak for a few weeks
/get the immunization


The flu shots are questionable at best though. There are something like 30 different flu strains IIRC, and they have to gamble on which one will be the worst one in any given year. And even if they do get it right, you can still get one of the other strains.
 
2012-10-18 10:00:36 PM  

GAT_00: basemetal: Uhmmm, yeah, a strong immune system can cut both ways.

/get the immunization
//anyone that's ever had the real flu will never turn it down
///not talking about that little feel bad for a few days bug that people pass off as the flu
////the real deal, when you are bargaining with god to either take you or make you better
///on day four or five
//and you feel weak for a few weeks
/get the immunization

The flu shots are questionable at best though. There are something like 30 different flu strains IIRC, and they have to gamble on which one will be the worst one in any given year. And even if they do get it right, you can still get one of the other strains.


I stand by my statement.
 
2012-10-18 10:05:06 PM  

Amos Quito: doglover: Kids die. It's why your cock doesn't fall off after the first use and you have two ovaries.


Interesting anatomy.


Cartman's mom?
 
2012-10-18 10:05:22 PM  
Vaccines, people. They save lives. Your risk of getting autism is very low compared to risk of flu.

Take the risk. Get the shot.
 
2012-10-18 10:06:30 PM  
Can we knock it the fark off with the flu panic already?

It's old. It's been old.
 
2012-10-18 10:08:24 PM  
I can't remember the last time I got the flu. I'm a healthy 23 year old so I've never gotten a flu shot, but the CDC recommends them for everyone now and they are free at the health center in my office so I'm getting one next month. I figure I'm guaranteed to get the flu now.
 
2012-10-18 10:08:28 PM  
Well, I have a crooked nose that, apparently, makes me susceptible to flu, so I'm not that healthy.

/But it raises my chances of getting flu
//So wtf science?
 
2012-10-18 10:11:26 PM  

Amos Quito: namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!


Yeah, the flu and MRSA.

Minor detail. Little wonder that they waited 'til the nineteenth farking paragraph to mention it.

/Fear mongering vaccine hype


My thought exactly....
 
2012-10-18 10:11:53 PM  
So the only truth is despair? Gotcha.
 
2012-10-18 10:13:30 PM  
Uh, he had MRSA as well, it's a whole different kettle of fish than just the flu.
 
2012-10-18 10:13:36 PM  
I enjoy getting the flu every couple years 'cause of the fever dreams, man, the DREAMS

and the pile under the blankets 'cause I'm freezing to death with a 103 temperature. I enjoy that part almost as much as the DREAMS
 
2012-10-18 10:16:38 PM  

namatad: oh yes and you let your sick kid go to school (infecting other kids, nice one, asshole) and you let him play a game, where he played hard, massively stressing his body; taking energy away from his immune system.


Few things piss me off as much as sick people coming to work. I had a guy working next to me pass out at his desk with the flu once. I could understand if we worked hourly and/or didn't get sick days, but Jesus people, they're there for a reason. No, you really aren't that important. Or work from home.

So, I've made it a habit to leave work and rest for them.
 
2012-10-18 10:17:02 PM  

phenn: Can we knock it the fark off with the flu panic already?

It's old. It's been old.


We don't have much of a panic this year, no bird flu or swine flu horror stories.

But for what it costs, a flu shot is well worth it. Even if you live in your mom's basement, eventually you're going to wander out the the 7-Eleven to buy Cheetos and get sneezed on.

Pretty much every year millions of flu shots go unused and there's no good reason for it.
 
2012-10-18 10:18:02 PM  
It's strange, I get sick frequently but never get really deathly sick with a flu. I never seem to get a flu in the winter but I'll get laryngitis once in awhile in early spring.
 
2012-10-18 10:18:30 PM  
Soon, pigs will fly and we'll have to worry about the Bird-Swine Flu.
 
2012-10-18 10:19:30 PM  
Swine flu has left me with some residual health problems. Hooray.

Can't wait until I get good insurance again. Soon...
 
2012-10-18 10:20:09 PM  

Coco LaFemme: My junior year of college, flu hit my dorms hard, and I got sick. Sick, sick. Sicker than I'd ever been in my life before that time. My roommates basically did the same thing your friends did. I managed to convince them I was well enough to take my finals, as I got sick the week of my sister's birthday, which is early December....and that's when finals were. Otherwise, I too was quarantined in my room. Thankfully the dorms at my school were apartments, rather than standard dorms, so everyone had their own bedrooms. They didn't wear masks around me, but my best friend bought me disposable plates and flatware to eat off of so I wouldn't use the community dishes and get everyone else sick.

The worse part was that it wasn't the nauseous flu, where you puke a few times, lie in bed for a day or so, and feel better thereafter. This was a week and a half of sheer and utter misery.


Yeah, I had been feeling blech for a couple days (I'm so used to my allergies hitting me hard, I ignored it (which I would do again three months later with mono, but I'm a slow learner)). Then I woke up Sunday morning with a fever so bad that I was shivering under all of my blankets after my roommate closed the window (they keep the dorms close to 90 in winter for some unknown reason), and then even after she piled her blankets on, too. All we had was a disposable thermometer from my first aid kit, it only went up to 105, so I will never know how bad my fever really was. She called her mom (who is an anatomy and physiology professor, so she got called for about half of our illnesses and injuries, and my mother (an RN) the other half), who said it would be best to call the university's advice nurse. Who basically told us that if my fever hadn't broken by the next day, I should go to health services. There was some vomiting going on, but that happens whenever I get an atrocious fever, so it just added to my misery. I ended up going to class Thursday out of necessity, and up until Wednesday night, I ate what was brought to me - something from the commons, microwave soup with a plastic spoon, or my favorite, some greasy Chinese food that was my first meal after my fever got to a reasonable level and I felt I could eat (I will give my then-bf credit, he tried...).

I was very grateful, my then bf didn't avoid me, assuming that if he was going to catch it, he probably already had, so at least I had occasional company.

Also, atmospheric fluid dynamics + so sick eyes don't focus = what the hell is going on and why are the numbers moving around my page?! 

/That reminds me, I should probably look into getting my flu shot soon
 
2012-10-18 10:20:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Vaccines, people. They save lives. Your risk of getting autism is very low compared to risk of flu.

Take the risk. Get the shot.



I got my shot last week. Now I don't understand love.
 
2012-10-18 10:22:19 PM  

FunkOut: It's strange, I get sick frequently but never get really deathly sick with a flu. I never seem to get a flu in the winter but I'll get laryngitis once in awhile in early spring.


I would claim that I almost never get sick, but I know better than to claim that by now.
 
2012-10-18 10:23:49 PM  

GAT_00: We know. We've known since 1918.


Bingo. When I was researching my family tree, I found two great uncles who were "DOD" (died of disease) in WWI, both buried in the Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery. One of them wrote his mom (quoting) "Some of the boys have a touch of influenza, and I got it too. But I hope to be better soon. We are having wet rainy weather and it is hard to keep well." The next week he was buried.

That got me curious, and so I looked up the Spanish Flu online, and found graphs like this:

upload.wikimedia.org

Which was explained (thanks, Wikipedia) by "...This research concluded, among other things, that the virus kills through a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system), which perhaps explains its unusually severe nature and the concentrated age profile of its victims. The strong immune system reactions of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths."
 
2012-10-18 10:24:21 PM  

basemetal: I stand by my statement.


Actually, it entirely depends on the type of flu.

And I have had the flu... about twice in the last 15 years after being a sickly child. I've also had food poisoning in that time, have developed permanent injuries in a joint and a couple bones, and hate needles. I'd much rather have the flu; not that I like it, but I'll take my chances.

The problem was, of course, one of the flu strains I obtained was that swine flu (and, well, vaccines were limited in my area and were not the standard shots people receive at the beginning of Fall). Two bouts with partial pneumonia later, I still don't have full lung capacity.
 
2012-10-18 10:25:48 PM  

Kazan: H1N1 strains - like the infamous "Spanish Flu" kill via cytokine storm - that means the healither you are the more likely you are to die. it is an fatal feedback loop in the immune system.


Darn it, I replied to a post just before yours, and then you made the same point. :(

But it bears repeating.

/might there be a lesson w/regards to military force?
 
2012-10-18 10:27:12 PM  
Oh, yeah, and I had mono and my throat nearly swelled shut.
And I had an abscess in a wisdom tooth that caused headaches and jaw pain (all were then pulled in a two hour procedure... an hour devoted to the abscessed tooth).
And I currently have regular headaches due to a head injury.

I'd rather have the flu.
 
2012-10-18 10:28:57 PM  

Omahawg: I enjoy getting the flu every couple years 'cause of the fever dreams, man, the DREAMS


Just take melatonin. You'll have wild dreams without the fever.
 
2012-10-18 10:29:44 PM  
Big pharma propaganda at its best. A scare tactic to sell their product.
 
2012-10-18 10:32:12 PM  

GAT_00: We know. We've known since 1918.


It was the Spanish Flu that ended WWI. Not the politicians.

My mother's father was a WWI veteran. He was part of a volunteer Scottish-Canadian unit that was one of the last ones to leave. When the flu hit, it was as devastating as poison gas and machine guns. And when they higher-ups declared the war over, my grandfather's unit had to march through French villages that were completely devoid of human life to get back to port where the transport ships were.
 
2012-10-18 10:32:47 PM  
I went to high school with a girl was was pregnant but didn't know it (and no one could tell she was pregnant...no belly or anything). She played in a school basketball game one night; within 6 hours of the game, she gave birth to a perfectly healthy daughter.
 
2012-10-18 10:33:45 PM  

FizixJunkee: I went to high school with a girl was was pregnant but didn't know it (and no one could tell she was pregnant...no belly or anything). She played in a school basketball game one night; within 6 hours of the game, she gave birth to a perfectly healthy daughter.


And that baby girl's name?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-18 10:36:04 PM  
It was Gods plan.

/If he would have lived it would have been a miracle
//Was there a prayer chain involved? No one paged God? Oh well, there ya go.
///With all the god in politics right now I feel a bit snarky
 
2012-10-18 10:36:45 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: phenn: Can we knock it the fark off with the flu panic already?

It's old. It's been old.

We don't have much of a panic this year, no bird flu or swine flu horror stories.

But for what it costs, a flu shot is well worth it. Even if you live in your mom's basement, eventually you're going to wander out the the 7-Eleven to buy Cheetos and get sneezed on.

Pretty much every year millions of flu shots go unused and there's no good reason for it.


Just as anecdote...

My mum is a former RN, gets a flu shot every year and is sick as hell for a month to two months.

Don't make a shiat-ton of sense to me, friend.

Ask your pharmacist for an ingredient list and he/she will look at you like you lost your damned mind.

Don't let me influence you in the least. But, think enough of yourself to inquire on what's actually in that shiz. I suspect you'll be perfectly dandy without it.
 
2012-10-18 10:38:21 PM  
Flu turned my spouse into a zombie.

/she got better
 
2012-10-18 10:38:53 PM  
My Grandmother grew up in Limehouse in England during the Spanish Flu. She recounted to me how her friends would hang out, one would start coughing, and four days later they'd be dead. She then said towards the end, people were dying faster than they could put them in the ground, and the bodies were stacked like cordwood outside of the rowhouses.

Now, I'd like to also add the Norovirus to things I never want. Violently shiatting over and over whilevomiting into a bucket simultaneously is something I never want to experience ever again. Then the shivers, the fever, the absolute inability to keep anything, and I mean anything down. You can't even sip water. Then the ceaseless, ungodly farting. My guts ended up grumbling in a five-part round I never knew my body could create. I farted almost continuously to the point the stench woke me up and forced me to open a window.

I'll take the shakes, the fever and ick of the flu anytime.
 
2012-10-18 10:39:45 PM  

GAT_00: The flu shots are questionable at best though. There are something like 30 different flu strains IIRC, and they have to gamble on which one will be the worst one in any given year. And even if they do get it right, you can still get one of the other strains.


Actually, they've been shown to be quite effective. The shots do change from year to year based on predictions of which flu strains will be prevalent. But even if the match is off you can get protection from similar flu strains and flu-like illnesses.
 
2012-10-18 10:40:54 PM  

Snarfangel: Omahawg: I enjoy getting the flu every couple years 'cause of the fever dreams, man, the DREAMS

Just take melatonin. You'll have wild dreams without the fever.


Not I. A couple of dirty dreams, but scarce.

Melatonin is delightful when sleep evades. Chicks with hot flashes and night sweats can certainly find some relief with it.

And Brad Pitt dreams.
 
2012-10-18 10:42:11 PM  
My grandmother, rest her soul, was a young woman during the Spanish Flu outbreak, and said they noticed that people who didn't drink were the ones treated the worst by the flu. So, she and her friends drank massive quantities of gin to fend off the sickness. She survived the outbreak unscathed, and continued to have a stiff one, just in case, until the day she died almost 70 years later.
 
2012-10-18 10:44:03 PM  

octopied: Uh, he had MRSA as well, it's a whole different kettle of fish than just the flu.



Altogether!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-18 10:44:10 PM  
Baby, can you dig your man?
 
2012-10-18 10:44:21 PM  

Amos Quito: namatad: It turned out he had both influenza B and an infection with a "superbug" called methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA.

kid was farkED!!


Yeah, the flu and MRSA.

Minor detail. Little wonder that they waited 'til the nineteenth farking paragraph to mention it.


/Fear mongering vaccine hype


I thought the same thing. Wonder if he caught mrsa AFTER he was admitted into the hospital.
 
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