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2012-10-18 09:46:41 PM
12 votes:

Mugato: Eh, as lame as Signs was, it was the impurities in our water that farked the aliens up not just water itself. That was pretty clear. As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy. Initially man was supposed to be used as a parallel processor but the suits didn't understand it so they changed it to something simpler.


I followed the link in the description and found the theory posited there to be one of the best I've heard.

Copypasta'd:
When I first saw this film, I didn't realize that it wasn't about aliens at all. It's about the return of demons. Notice it's all about a priest's resurgence of belief, and a preordained moment of redemption-if-dared-and-attempted. There is no alien technology or weaponry or clothing of any kind, only a clawed, naked beast creature and lights in the sky.

Furthermore: The running joke throughout the movie is that people see these "invaders" in a way that's related to their particular frame of mind: The cop sees them as prankster kids, the bookstore owners see them as "a hoax to sell commercials," the Army recruitment officer sees them as invading military, the kids see them as UFOs... and the Priest sees them as test of faith. This understanding of the film removed my hatred of the "You've got to be kidding me; they were killed by WATER!" concept. In fact, the priest's daughter had been referred to as "holy" (as revealed during Mel's key monologue)-recognized by all who saw her at her birth as "an Angel;" and her quite particular relationship to water is shown to be very special and spiritual: In other words, she has placed vials of what are, essentially, HOLY WATER all around the house. (And the creature's reaction when coming in contact with this blessed liquid is EXACTLY like monsters/vampires being splashed by spiritual "acid.")

This view of the movie also explains the creature's actions: They act like superior tricksters, are not able to break in through closed doors, can be trapped behind simple wooden latches -all mythological elements of demons and vampire-like creatures of lore. It also explains the news over the radio at the end of the movie that an ancient method of killing the creatures has been found "in three small cities in the Middle East" - one would suspect the religious "hubs" of the three main Abrahamic traditions, each discovering the "mystic methods" of protection-and-dispatch that I've noted earlier.

Note also: All the Christian iconography throughout the movie, the references to "Signs and Wonders" (the true meaning of the title), the crucifix shapes hinted-at everywhere (check out the overhead shot, looking down on the street driving into town) and the ultimate fact that the entire movie is built around a Priest rediscovering he is not abandoned to a random, Godless, scientifically-oriented Universe but, rather, is part of a predicted and dreamed-of plan.

Now -these creatures may for all intents and purposes be some sort of extraterrestrial or inter-dimensional "aliens" -but the point of the movie seems to be that they are, in the ACTUALITY OF THE FILM WORLD, the dark stuff from which all the character's tales of devils and night-creatures were born.
2012-10-18 10:31:14 PM
6 votes:
If a huge glaring plot-hole in your movie can only be explained by 1) watching a deleted scene, 2) reading the novel, 3) reading a follow-up comicbook/novel then you sucked at making your movie. The movie should be able to stand on its own and make sense without having to resort to outside material.

If your movie no longer makes sense because you deleted a scene that was crucial to the plot, then DON'T delete that scene. Find some non-critical fluff somewhere else in the movie to cut if shaving 5 minutes off your run time is really that crucial.

This whole "oh it'll make sense once you see the deleted scenes/director's cut/read the comicbook" crap is laziness and slipshoddery, pure and simple.
2012-10-18 10:26:46 PM
6 votes:
FTFA: "Gremlins"
Feeding the Mogwai after midnight -- isn't it always after midnight somewhere in the world? Technically, if they're on Asian standard time, then feeding them after 12 a.m. EST actually means they were fed at ... oh never mind. There's just too many things wrong with this scenario.



So Mogwai don't have internal body clocks like people do? Your body knows when it's midnight. Once the Mogwai got over their jet lag, wouldn't they adjust to local time just like everything else does? Circadian rhythms and all that stuff?

It sounds to me like the author was just looking for stuff to pick at in order to pad TFA. Gremlins is a fantasy movie. Midnight holds special meaning in some fantasy tales. Just accept it at that and let it go.
2012-10-18 10:08:39 PM
6 votes:
FTFA: "Independence Day"
A computer virus destroys an entire alien ship ... really? And where did David connect the device that uploaded the virus. We doubt they sell alien ports at Best Buy.


WTF? Did the author actually watch any of these movies?

The virus didn't destroy the alien ship. The nuclear bomb that was detonated inside the alien ship destroyed the alien ship. The virus just screwed up the alien computer systems that controlled their ships.

The virus was transmitted to the mother ship from an antenna that had been mounted on the captured spaceship.

The REAL plot hole in Independence Day was that the virus worked at all. Jeff Goldblum's character goes from correctly interpreting a countdown signal to being able to write malicious code for a completely alien computer system in the span of a couple of days... On a f*ckin' Mac, no less.

The WORST plot hole in Independence Day was that Jeff Goldblum and his father were able to drive from New York City to Washington DC, get into the White House, brief the president, and get over to Andrews Air Force base to escape in Air Force One in the span of about five hours.
2012-10-18 09:18:04 PM
6 votes:
They mention the Matrix but overlook the "humans as batteries" thing?


While there are certainly other plot holes in the "Alien" series to point out, one of the biggest one occurs at the beginning of the third film. The movie shows one alien egg hanging on the wall in the sleep chamber. But how did it get there from the last film when the Queen never had the opportunity to leave an egg to in her wake?

What are they talking about? There was no third Aliens movie...
2012-10-18 10:55:26 PM
5 votes:
The whole article was just one big nitpicking biatchfest.
2012-10-18 10:20:13 PM
5 votes:
FTFA: "Citizen Kane"
The entire movie is based on Kane's famous last word, "rosebud." However, Kane died alone. So who was there to pass on what he said?


The movie is not based on Kane's famous last word. And the movie itself is the story teller here. The utterance of "Rosebud" didn't need to be "passed on" in order for the movie to tell the story to the audience.

Is the author of TFA 14 years old?
2012-10-18 08:53:03 PM
5 votes:
#5 is full of shiat. There are some time traveling stories that have 0 plot holes.

Bender's Big Score has no plot-holes whatsoever. In fact, the story writers went WAY out of their way to ensure that there were no plot holes. That is the most insane time-traveling story ever told.
2012-10-18 10:19:12 PM
4 votes:

Fark Me To Tears: The REAL plot hole in Independence Day was that the virus worked at all. Jeff Goldblum's character goes from correctly interpreting a countdown signal to being able to write malicious code for a completely alien computer system in the span of a couple of days... On a f*ckin' Mac, no less.


There was a cut scene where they explained that they reverse engineered alien technology to make modern day computers, which was why the Mac was compatible with the alien computer. A silly explanation but an explanation.
2012-10-19 03:58:13 AM
2 votes:
"Batman Begins"

Why does everyone in rural China speak perfect English?

Where are the rest of the ninjas when Bruce Wayne is fighting Ra's Al Ghul (Ken Watanabe)?

Where are the rest of the doctors and nurses during the attack on Crane's big, empty insane asylum?

When Rachel is tripping on the hallucinogen, why does Nolan only show us the wiggly lights she sees when she looks out the Batmobile window? What about when she looks at Batman? Since everyone apparently has the same hallucinations, doesn't she see the demon-bat Crane saw and shouldn't that scare the crap out of her?

Why do the tripping Gothamites stop turning on each other and spontaneously organize to zombie-walk toward Rachel and the little boy? And why are there conveniently none of them around whenever Gordon or Rachel needs a moment of calm to accomplish something?

Why is Ra's the only person on the elevated train in the climax? It's not like he's working alone.

Why does Nolan make a point of showing us Bruce Wayne's stomach injury, then completely ignore that he's hurt for the rest of the film?

"The Island" - so full of holes it's a wonder the film doesn't get tangled up in the projector.

We're told there are several "generations" of clones, but we're never told how or why. Are the cloners using different processes each time? Other than being created a year apart, what makes the Echo "generation" different from Delta "generation"? We know the clones aren't reproducing and causing genetic variations.

If the clone farm's security monitors the residents so closely, why don't they realize when Lincoln has woken up and sneaked out of his room in the middle of the night?

Why would the cloning company need to bring Tom Lincoln in for "rescanning"? Don't they keep a copy of his DNA on file?

Why aren't Lincoln and Jordan surprised to see each other when they both end up at the clone facility in the finale?

How does Lincoln know the process for shutting down the holographic generators?

If Lincoln can evade scores of security guys, how come the scientist who runs the place can so easily sneak up on him for a final fight scene?

Since the clones have been told the world is contaminated, why are they all so anxious to go running outside for the movie's last shot?

Speaking of which, I guess Michael Bay's philosophy is, why write your own ending when you can lift the one from "Logan's Run" wholesale?

"The Day After Tomorrow"

From the satellite shots, it seems there's not a thing happening in southern hemisphere, but nobody explains why.

The supposedly genius Emmy Rossum character who supposedly "paid attention in health class" more than Gyllenhaal doesn't have the common sense to treat the huge gash on her leg -- or even tell anyone about it -- just so the movie can have a medical emergency and Jake can brave the storm looking for penicillin.

The huge cargo ship that comes floating down the street and stops right in front of the library exists in the script for the sole purpose of having a place for him to find said penicillin.

Why is the "nerdy" kid fixing the radio? Who's going to be broadcasting on AM or FM within range of that radio when the whole continent is frozen over?

The president gives "the order to evacuate the southern states." Evacuate them to WHERE?

In the Wendy's restaurant where Quaid and Mihok hole up, everything is frozen solid except the grill fires, yet it's warm enough to take off their coats and not see their breath.

Ditto all their tent scenes outdoors, in the middle of the biggest winter storm in 10,000 years.

The kids trapped in the library don't worry, wonder about, or even mention their parents.

The storm dissipates literally overnight.

The shots of the International Space Station show it literally tumbling through space, as if the thing orbits end-over-end.



"Flightplan"

Once the whole plot is revealed, it becomes obvious that it was dependent on the incredible unlikelihood that not one single person on the flight saw the missing girl at the gate or on the plane. The whole thing would fall apart if even one passenger said, "Yeah, I saw her." What kind of idiot villain comes up with a plan like that?

What's the villain's motive? Why such a complex ransom plan for so much money? Why not commit a simple kidnapping for a couple million dollars instead of this ridiculously complicated scheme involving staged suicides, staged disappearances, falsified passenger manifests, predicting the behavior of scape goats -- and doing it all with 400 captive-audience witnesses?

If the baddie is planning to kill the girl anyway, what's the point of keeping her alive, then leaving her unsecured (what about turbulence?) in the nose of the plane (which in the real world would have no heating)?

OK, I admit this one is completely extraneous and apropos to nothing, but what airline would paint their planes an ominous, uninviting dark gray?

"Star Trek: Nemesis"

Why do some parts of Shinzon's ship take 7 minutes to get into position for firing his weapon while others snap into place in seconds?

When Picard announced "battle stations!" why weren't the shields put up?

Why would the Enterprise return to Federation space by flying straight through a cloud that interferes with their systems and instruments? Why not go around it?

Why would the Reman soldiers passing in the hallway of Shinzon's ship believe Data's dumb twin would be asked to escort prisoner Picard to Shinzon at gunpoint instead of a guard?

Shinzon tells Picard (paraphrasing) "I'm afraid you won't be alive long enough to see me execute my evil plan"...then doesn't kill him.

Why are there only two Romulan birds of prey that come to the aid of the Enterprise?

When Shinzon starts backing up his ship after the Enterprise has rammed it, why not ram it again?

Isn't it convenient that nobody finds B4's "redundant memory port" a little suspicious?

How is it that the knickknacks and artifacts on display pedestals around everyone's quarters on the Enterprise never get knocked down with all the times the Enterprise has been rocked, shaken, blasted and stirred?

"Jurassic Park: The Lost World"

The bad scientists had about two dozen jeeps and humvees when they arrived on the island, so why are they trekking to their rescue rendezvous on foot?

When folks start getting eaten by velociraptors in the dark, why don't the rest of them just climb trees and stay put until morning?

Speilberg's "War of the Worlds"

Hundreds of thousands of giant, high-tech extraterrestrial "tripods" have supposedly been buried on Earth for millennia. How is it that not one of these things has ever been unearthed by thousands of years of erosion, plate tectonics, excavation and construction -- or detected by modern, ground-probing sonar equipment used to find fossils and oil?

Why didn't the aliens stay here when they brought all this equipment in the first place? Do they just go around the universe burying weapons on planets they might want to invade someday?


/don't ask
2012-10-19 02:17:40 AM
2 votes:
Want to talk about plot holes? What are the chances that Norville Barnes meets a Muncie girl who knows the Muncie fight song?
2012-10-19 02:09:57 AM
2 votes:

Son of Streak: moothemagiccow: we get that you're now using 100 percent of your brain

There's a movie seriously based on this bullshiat? We're not all latent telepaths. Our brains aren't rife with potential. We use most of the damned things.

That's my wife's favorite sci-fi fallacy. "You only use 10% of your brain because the rest of it is busy keeping your heart beating, dumbass!"


When I was with Primerica, my Regional Vice President pulled that bit on us one morning meeting. She asked "We only use 10% of our brains, imagine what it would be like if we used 100%?" I responded with "Probably the same result as pressing all the buttons on your computer's keyboard at once." She gave me this weird look, and then I explained to her that we only use 10% of our brain at most at a time in much the same way we only use at most three keys on the keyboard at a time.

So happy to be away from that shiat...
2012-10-19 01:44:43 AM
2 votes:
Years ago I read a story an elementary teacher submitted to Reader's Digest:

She read Cinderella to the class and one little boy looked pretty unhappy. When she asked him what was wrong, he said he didn't believe the story, because if the coach, horses and all her clothes changed at the stroke of midnight, how come the glass slipper didn't change back too....?

/Doh. My introduction to story plot holes... Now it bugs me every time I see the Disney movie w/ my kids.
2012-10-19 12:33:30 AM
2 votes:
If Grady exists only in Jacks mind, who let him out of the pantry?
2012-10-19 12:16:41 AM
2 votes:
Actually, after reading other movies, I don't think the writer understands what a plot hole is.
2012-10-19 12:15:15 AM
2 votes:
Yakivegas:

The thing that annoyed me is that the President's injured wife is transported to the super-secret high tech facility but then dies because no one knows how to do a simple farking laparaotomy to stop her internal bleeding (which somehow managed not to kill her before she was rescued).

It's because the actress playing her had a clause in her contract that stated every other character she plays in a movie must die.

After being in the military myself, I think how stupid it was that the entire battle plan was "Let's send a bunch of F-18s to shoot missiles and hopefully blow up a 15 mile diameter object..." instead of "Let's first use stand-off tactics and launch some harpoons from some cruisers and destroyers several miles away to see if they have any effect, and THEN use close range fighters..." or something less stupid.
2012-10-19 12:04:03 AM
2 votes:
If the whole premise of a Looper is that they need to send people back in time to kill them because its so hard to kill people in the future, why do the people who went to all the trouble of setting up this system so they can kill people without getting caught KILL BRUCE WILLIS'S WIFE IN THE FUTURE FOR NO REASON?! The plot device at the core of the entire movie collapses on itself when they use it to set up the plot!
2012-10-18 10:43:52 PM
2 votes:
FTFA: Limitless
Okay, Eddie; we get that you're now using 100 percent of your brain, making you one of the smartest people on Earth. So why didn't you stop to consider another way of accumulating $100,000 to bolster your stock investments rather than borrowing it from a Russian mobster?


Being able to use 100 percent of your brain doesn't mean that you automatically gain a proportional amount of common sense to go along with it.
2012-10-18 10:32:37 PM
2 votes:
FTFA: "Minority Report"
Like many time travel films, movies surrounding future timelines and predictions tend to be ripe with plot holes. "Minority Report" is no different, with the precogs predicting a future -- or at least future intentions -- that never comes to pass.


The author is screwed in the head on this one. The whole POINT of the movie was that the precogs weren't 100% perfect, and because of that the whole pre-crime concept was flawed, prone to abuse by people in power, and doomed to fail.
2012-10-18 09:19:01 PM
2 votes:

cman: #5 is full of shiat. There are some time traveling stories that have 0 plot holes.

Bender's Big Score has no plot-holes whatsoever. In fact, the story writers went WAY out of their way to ensure that there were no plot holes. That is the most insane time-traveling story ever told.


How did they compensate for the motion of the Earth in that one?
2012-10-18 09:05:49 PM
2 votes:
Eh, as lame as Signs was, it was the impurities in our water that farked the aliens up not just water itself. That was pretty clear. As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy. Initially man was supposed to be used as a parallel processor but the suits didn't understand it so they changed it to something simpler.
2012-10-19 05:36:07 PM
1 votes:

barneyfifesbullet: Anyone that worries about plot holes in a fantasy-based film is a pretentious douche.


Why? Movies shouldn't be written with some sense of internal logic? Why do you hate decent writing?
2012-10-19 01:09:26 PM
1 votes:
People are confusing plot holes with fiction.

Fiction is 'made up'. Most movies are meant to be fiction. They aren't real. They are able to break laws of nature without explaining it in detail. We accept that because we know it's a movie. Fiction.

In the Matrix, machines using humans as batteries might be a stupid idea, in our reality. But in the fictional world of the Matrix, we're supposed to accept the explanation that humans, combined with some form of Fusion generates power and the machines harness it. That's fiction.

When Superman can fly - that's fiction.

Plot holes are when the movie is logically inconsistent with the rules it makes. That's when Superman can fly in one scene and then, with no explanation, cannot fly in the next. A plot hole is something that doesn't make sense *IN THE MOVIE'S REALITY* not our own.
2012-10-19 11:44:14 AM
1 votes:

mechgreg: buntz: I don't know if this was explained or not but why would the Terminators keep going back to kill Sarah Conner or John Conner?

Why not go back and kill their grandparents? Or Great-grandparents?

Far back enough that it would have been easy to kill them and they wouldn't have the technology or weapons to fight back?

If the Terminators went back to 1880 or so, problem solved and a whole line or Conners are wiped out to boot!

My theory is that the farther back you go the more people in the future it affects. I mean say you go back to the 1800's and kill John Conner's ancestor. The problem is that dude might also be the ancestor of some senator or something who approves funding for skynet in the first place. Plus even in the first one they said that in the future records from before judgement day were super spotty, and pretty much all they knew was that John Connor's mom was a woman who lived in LA in 1984. Remember the terminator had to look her up in the phone book. I imagine trying to find info about John's grandparents or great-grandparents would be even harder.


Butterfly effect.

In all 100% seriousness, if you want a great read that combines literature, speculation, a teensy bit of theory, and a lot of fun on time travel, read this:

ecx.images-amazon.com
2012-10-19 11:10:15 AM
1 votes:

Hans Kammler: missing Empire Strikes Back.

so Luke and R2 go one way while Han, Chewie, and Leia go another. Luke completes his jedi training in an afternoon? How long are the others hanging out with Lando and the Imperials?

Yeah I know - pile on the Lucas hate.


Luke had a working hyperdrive, so he got to Dagobah almost instantly. The Falcon's was broken, so it took them a very long time to get to Bespin.

Next!
2012-10-19 08:51:20 AM
1 votes:

snowshovel: Given that we don't know why the aliens were harvesting humans in "Signs," I can come up with a good reason for harvesting water-based lifeforms:

Assume that the aliens are in the middle of a war somewhere on their home planet, and that they could bio-mechanically control humans. Having an army of easily killed lifeforms who's entire body was made of acid (to the aliens) would be an awesome weapon.


*Throws away script to Alien 5*
2012-10-19 08:17:52 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: How did they compensate for the motion of the Earth in that one?


People who think this question is clever don't understand how time travel works (or would work, if it were possible).

To put it crudely, there is no such thing as "space travel" nor "time travel". All travel is "spacetime travel". If time travel to the past exists, it almost certainly involves traveling a path in spacetime that is continuous, not a discontinuous jump from one point in spacetime to another point in spacetime. A "time traveler" is always moving continuously in space too, so the question of the earth (or solar system or galaxy) "moving out from under him" simply doesn't apply.

This is hard to picture because you need 4 dimensions and our brains can only picture 3. Here's a very coarse and flawed analogy that might help. It's especially crude because it's going to have just one space dimension. Suppose you are an ant living on the surface of the earth, let's say at Greenwich, London, right on the Prime Meridian. Your spacetime has only two dimensions, represented by the surface of the earth: east-west represents time and north-south represents space. You can move north-south (space) at will, but not east-west (time). You are carried through "time" at a constant rate by the rotation of the earth: it's noon now, and an hour from now it will be 1pm, and so on. Ants living further east are in your future -- when it's noon for you it's 1pm for an ant in Paris -- and further west are in your past.

One day you decide to visit some ants (or possibly aunts) that live to your north. Eventually you reach a cold, snowy land. Now, you are an inteprid ant so you keep heading north and finally you reach the North Pole. You look around for a bit, but it's cold and featureless so you decide to head south again. However, without realizing it you got turned around in all that snow, and you're now facing about 19 degrees further west. Eventually you reach a city but to your surprise it's not London -- it's Boston, Mass. Even more surprising, when you compare your watch with the local ants you discover that your watch is five hours ahead of theirs! Somehow, while walking only north-south -- remember, you never actually walked east-west, you just stood on the pole and turned around -- and while traveling at a continuous rate into the future as far as you are concerned, and without ever noticing anything anomalous, and without your feet ever leaving the surface of the earth, you have traveled five hours into the past!

And that's what time travel would actually be like, if you can picture that with three space and one time dimensions.
Skr
2012-10-19 05:01:33 AM
1 votes:
Personally I thought Twelve Monkeys was a perfectly plotted self contained time travel story.

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2012-10-19 03:50:52 AM
1 votes:
One plot hole I never got over was Face/Off.

At the end of the movie, after Travolta killed Nic Cage and got changed back, why did he have his love handles put back in?
2012-10-19 03:36:33 AM
1 votes:

Digitalstrange: kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.

yeah the whole point was the machines were split about how to deal with their creators/enslavers


Machines would have no need to even share parts of the universe with humans. They could just leave. It is a big world.
2012-10-19 01:25:59 AM
1 votes:
They missed a larger plot hole in Minority Report. Cruise's character gets an eye transplant so he can't be tracked by this massive big brother police force using retna identification, but he keeps his old eyes so he can use them to gain entrance into his old place of work. I'm not involved in anything close to a high security job and I promise you they'd change the locks on me within a day of being fired... or, you know, freaking out and killing a bunch of coworkers.
2012-10-19 01:10:00 AM
1 votes:

kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.


yeah the whole point was the machines were split about how to deal with their creators/enslavers
2012-10-19 01:03:48 AM
1 votes:

Fury Pilot: moothemagiccow: CPennypacker: If the whole premise of a Looper is that they need to send people back in time to kill them because its so hard to kill people in the future, why do the people who went to all the trouble of setting up this system so they can kill people without getting caught KILL BRUCE WILLIS'S WIFE IN THE FUTURE FOR NO REASON?! The plot device at the core of the entire movie collapses on itself when they use it to set up the plot!

I figured the obvious hole was sending Loopers to be killed by their past selves. Someone else would've shot Willis, end of story.

Wasn't it part of their contracts that they had to close their own loop.


Here's what I didn't get: Why tell the loopers that this is going to happen? Even if for some farked up reason they absolutely must kill their future self or the planet will spin off its axis, just stick a bag over dude's head and blast him to the past but don't strap gold to his back. The looper would kill himself not ever knowing it was him from the future, collect his regular fee of silver bars and away he goes none the wiser.

Even better, let the future baddies kill the guy and send the corpse back to the past to be incinerated. There there's zero chance that a future you gets sent to the past and is allowed to run amok.

I like time travel as a premise but goddamnit, it's tough to make a good movie about it.
2012-10-19 01:01:15 AM
1 votes:
I saw the Gremlins when I was about 12 and the whole "5 minutes before midnight = hunky-dory; 5 minutes past midnight = devastation; but for how long past midnight = who knows" thing bugged me to no end. Major incongruity. Full moons make a lot more sense than demon creatures bowing down to local wall clocks.
2012-10-19 12:39:37 AM
1 votes:
I can answer 2 of them

The Matrix- The machines keep leaving the humans an out. Its one of the systems checks and balances. Some of the machines programs retain a fondness for humans no matter what.

Independance Day- According to the entire premise modern computers are based on the alien tech so interface is natural and as far as Goldblums ability to write a virus in an alien computer language that could bypass their security.

1 the aliens bridged comms to take over our satelites for their countdown.

2 a telepathic race would have no reason for computer security

in short the simplest of computer viruses written in our computer languages would find a way into their system and find no resistance
2012-10-19 12:38:31 AM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: CPennypacker: If the whole premise of a Looper is that they need to send people back in time to kill them because its so hard to kill people in the future, why do the people who went to all the trouble of setting up this system so they can kill people without getting caught KILL BRUCE WILLIS'S WIFE IN THE FUTURE FOR NO REASON?! The plot device at the core of the entire movie collapses on itself when they use it to set up the plot!

I figured the obvious hole was sending Loopers to be killed by their past selves. Someone else would've shot Willis, end of story.


Wasn't it part of their contracts that they had to close their own loop.
2012-10-19 12:26:22 AM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: "The RocK"

When Cage, Connery and the others enter Alcatraz through the "cistern room" - WTF? It's locked from the prison side. Why?

Then you have this strange half-geared flame-shooting contraption... Connery "analyzed the timing" and hoped it hadn't changed. Except for one small problem... that was to ESCAPE into the cistern room, not out of the room (and the door is bolted on the prison side... again, why bother with the giant flame thing if you are trying to get into the room to escape the prison, as Connery's character had? What is the contraption, anyway? Why is it still operational decades after the prison has closed?

Let's not even mention how he knew who really killed Kennedy, even though he was in prison for discovering this 2 YEARS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION.


The answer to all of these is: Michael Bay.
2012-10-19 12:22:24 AM
1 votes:
"The RocK"

When Cage, Connery and the others enter Alcatraz through the "cistern room" - WTF? It's locked from the prison side. Why?

Then you have this strange half-geared flame-shooting contraption... Connery "analyzed the timing" and hoped it hadn't changed. Except for one small problem... that was to ESCAPE into the cistern room, not out of the room (and the door is bolted on the prison side... again, why bother with the giant flame thing if you are trying to get into the room to escape the prison, as Connery's character had? What is the contraption, anyway? Why is it still operational decades after the prison has closed?

Let's not even mention how he knew who really killed Kennedy, even though he was in prison for discovering this 2 YEARS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION.
2012-10-19 12:16:58 AM
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Ill give Independence Day a pass. The scientists did have 40 some years of tinkering with the alien technology. Its conceivable they had learned their computer systems and networking protocols to program a virus that attacks it.

Also, its equally feasible that our computing technology is actually based on that alien technology.
2012-10-19 12:16:11 AM
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CPennypacker: If the whole premise of a Looper is that they need to send people back in time to kill them because its so hard to kill people in the future, why do the people who went to all the trouble of setting up this system so they can kill people without getting caught KILL BRUCE WILLIS'S WIFE IN THE FUTURE FOR NO REASON?! The plot device at the core of the entire movie collapses on itself when they use it to set up the plot!


I figured the obvious hole was sending Loopers to be killed by their past selves. Someone else would've shot Willis, end of story.
2012-10-19 12:15:28 AM
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unicron702: You want to know how Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham so fast? He's Bruce Wayne. He finds the nearest Wayne Corporation facility or a sister company and tells the front desk girl he'll be taking the jet back to Gotham.


This. I don't know why people get so focused on that. Also, Batman Begins showed him traveling through the world with zero money. He's a resourceful man.
2012-10-19 12:12:27 AM
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cman: #5 is full of shiat. There are some time traveling stories that have 0 plot holes.

Bender's Big Score has no plot-holes whatsoever. In fact, the story writers went WAY out of their way to ensure that there were no plot holes. That is the most insane time-traveling story ever told.


They also obviously haven't seen Primer.

It may have a plot hole somewhere, but that'd require you understanding what the hell is going on to find it or even care.
2012-10-19 12:11:37 AM
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You want to know how Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham so fast? He's Bruce Wayne. He finds the nearest Wayne Corporation facility or a sister company and tells the front desk girl he'll be taking the jet back to Gotham.
2012-10-19 12:10:07 AM
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Mugato: Eh, as lame as Signs was, it was the impurities in our water that farked the aliens up not just water itself. That was pretty clear. As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy. Initially man was supposed to be used as a parallel processor but the suits didn't understand it so they changed it to something simpler.


This link about the aliens in signs possibly being demons kind of blew my mind when I first read it.

However, it doesn't explain the radio signals being picked up on the baby monitor, nor the bird crashing into the ship... or the crop circles and the lights in the sky... but it explained the water and the pantry doors thing. 

And as much as I dislike Shyamalan for raping The Last Airbender, if he WAS really going for demons instead of aliens, it kind of brings back a little respect for him to me.
2012-10-18 11:56:26 PM
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There is one thing that always bothered me about the Matrix:

How the hell do people think this is a good movie?

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: "Citizen Kane"
The entire movie is based on Kane's famous last word, "rosebud." However, Kane died alone. So who was there to pass on what he said?

The movie is not based on Kane's famous last word. And the movie itself is the story teller here. The utterance of "Rosebud" didn't need to be "passed on" in order for the movie to tell the story to the audience.

Is the author of TFA 14 years old?


THANK YOU!!
2012-10-18 10:16:04 PM
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FTFA: "Waterworld"
If paper is such a rare commodity, why are the 'Smokers' smoking what seems like an endless amount of cigarettes?


(*wince*) (*rubs eyes*) There is no indication whatsoever that cigarettes are still manufactured in this time. Like pretty much everything else in this movies, they're left over from the old days. The pirates probably landed an entire stockpile of dry cigarettes off an old cargo ship. I had no problem resolving the presence of cigarettes in the movie, and I thought it added a fun and interesting aspect to Dennis Hopper's character and his crew.
 
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